I agree, i really wish they stuck with the internal code names that were leaked before these released. It was initially M1, M1X (for M1 Pro), and likely M1Z (for M1 Max). Which would have been much more in line with how they were naming iPad Pro chips before.
I've had the MaxBook for a week now. I'm an iOS Engineer. It's the first machine I have ever owned that I know is overkill for my needs. It's beyond good.
There are laptops less than half the price of the Pro Max, which have more powerful GPUs and can actually game as well. *That's* Overkill. Hope you got your mac at a deep discount.
@@Resanctify can those same laptops even get half the battery life? Are they as portable? Do they have as good a screen? These are not for gaming. These are for getting work done. And if this tool makes you money then of course it's worth it.
yeah thats totally why he is the lowest rated host in terms of views if you bots stopped praising him for one second and talk about the actual video that’d be nice
@@Freestyle80 he's too nerdy, which is a pro in this case... he explains stuff too well for the average persons understanding of it, so they won't be able to follow along. this of cause will have an influence on how many people find this kind of content entertaining(therefor clickable') so therefor less folk clicky clicky
3:27 ProTip: Press Alt while scaling an image to resize it from its center. Additionally, if you also press Shift while doing so, now you're scaling it proportionally! Neat, right?
I’ve had my 16” M1 Pro for a month and its by far the best fastest computer I’ve ever used. For typical work, web browsing and streaming HD & 4K video I’ve yet to hear the fans spin up even once. At most it gets slightly warm to the touch, never uncomfortably hot. The battery life is incredible. The screen is by far the best I’ve ever seen in a laptop and the sound is by far the best I’ve heard. I’m really happy with it and I’m sure I’ll be using it for years to come.
I like the visual comparison sitting next to the old 15.4" cMBP. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 15.4" cMBP and thinking about upgrading, or waiting one more year for them to iron out any new issues that come to light in the new design. I don't currently do much intensive stuff on it, but being stuck on Catalina is kind of a bummer as that's now 2 generations behind.
@@HVDynamo They will just update the SOC in the Macbooks next year Apple doesn't change the form factor aka body of the machine until at least 4 years have past. The Air will probably see an update but the Macbook Pros will have this style for at least 4 more years with only internal upgrades.
When you upgrade, take a shot on installing Linux on your old mbp. It's a fun hobby project and you get an operating system with modern security updates
Loving my M1 Pro. Being able to work at the coffee shop or at a friends place all day in a single charge with zero throttling has already justified the cost for me. I’ve had it since launch and still haven’t heard the fans spin up yet, even with Unity previews running. My old gaming laptop sounded like a jet, ran slow, and lasted for maybe 40 minutes on battery.
@@PopStrikers Nice! I got the M1 Pro 16" with 1 TB. Also really loving it. Sometimes I envy the portability of the 14", but I know working on the 16" screen is much more comfortable at solitary places.
@@BTMovieSecondChannel I actually originally ordered the base model 14", but returned it for the 16. The screen and battery are definitely worth the extra bit of heft.
“But the entire M1 Pro and Max line up has a unique combination of performance, efficiency and endurance, rolled into a form factor that's pleasing to use, with fewer compromises that what we're used to. You're also getting a display that's unmatched in the PC world, speakers that are legitimely some of the best in the industry and a tightly integrated ecosystem that speaks to many. […] Apple is moving in the right direction, and this is a major step towards what could be a brighter future for the industry. After all, wherever Apple goes, the PC surely follows.” I wholeheartedly agree with what Anthony is saying. If I wasn't so attached to the Linux ecosystem and the x86 architecture, I think I would already have bought a new MacBook Pro, despite being anti-Apple since a long time. I am looking forward to laptops with a day long battery (high hopes for the new Intel BIG.little architecture), a screen and speakers as good as the MacBook ones and the shift back to sensible IO, thickness and keyboard travel key.
By the way, now that you mention Linux, are there any moves towards making it run natively on Apple Silicon (even with Apple’s predictable and preemptive moves in attempting to prevent just that)?
@@Mainyehc You can check Asahi Linux, weirdly Apple does not do everything to prevent a Linux port, and it seems to work relatively well (stille a lot of work to be done of course)
Yep only reason I didn't get an m1 mac mini for a desktop replacement was the small amount of ram and macos ecosystem. Beyond that m1 chips currently represent the best mobile chips in the market for broad usecases - gaming sadly is not great
I (have to) run teams. 14" M1 Pro doesn't care. It just runs fine in the background, or conferencing, no fan, no fuss. Unlike my prior Intel Macbooks which was a bunch of fan noise and aggravation.
As a 3D artist, I find the M1 chip super compelling, especially as blender 3.1 is on the horizon. I would love to see more builds and videos focused on creative use!
I'm waiting on my M1 Max order to come in, but even rendering on my sister's M1 Air was impressive. Obviously it doesn't hold a candle to these pro models, but it still out performed my spec'd out Intel MBP. Actually was what convinced me to order mine. I very much hope that software support is made a priority. I wonder if Apple would ever incentivize it. I know that Microsoft actually will implement backwards compatibility and performance boosts on Xbox games, rather than making the devs do it themselves. I wonder if we could ever see Apple doing something similar, considering Mac's still are "niche"
Depends on what kind of 3d artist you are. If you have pretty simple scenes, and all your software is supported, it will be ok, but pretty expensive. macOS is not the best plattform for 3d in general. Better go for windows. The only thing i really can recommend on macOS is Adobe/Substance Painter(except the slow baking). Rendering on M1max is still super slow compared to nvidia devices. Modern renderers are good at handling mipmaps and out of core textures and geometry. The biggest problem vram-wise are complex volumes. Thats were m1 max probably will shine.
@@ChaosOver apple assigned some of their own engineers to work with the blender foundation. I agree the Max currently isn’t as good as nvdia cards, but it’s clear apple want to make their machines more capable for heavy 3D projects in the future.
A much more balanced review thank you Anthony! I have a 16" M1 Pro and thoroughly enjoying it. It handles everything I throw at it from a Logic and Final Cut aspect. This year was the first time I have purchased a Mac since the late 90s and I'm loving it. Building PCs since the late 80s I have a gaming PC for games but using this more and more, to the point now for just about everything else. Dreamed of UNIX with a Mac front end in the 90s, MAE was just too slow on my Ultra 10 and the stability of Slackware back in then meant Linux was always on the "extra" PC rather than the primary and the NeXT (which I still have) was very slow by that time period. My M1 Pro hasn't crashed once and I got it the day of release... if nothing else scripting for fun on the same PC I can do actual work on, having a real terminal for sys administration and also being able to play WoW and FFXIV on it makes it a win for me personally. To each his own, I still have 2 high end Windows laptops from work which are top of the line but battery life, screen, sound, keyboard etc... there just isn't a comparison.
the 16 inch is a belter and cant imagine going back to 14 now. screen and sound is so good. it has been a joy. i got so used to my old 2014 mac book and its quirks of constant fan noise and constant recharging required.
The BBD (bigger better deal) is always the winner. Serious props to Anthony, respect for showing the Blender 3.1 alpha as well as the optimism points. Clearly from the graphs, the best price/performance deal is the 24-core M1 Max 16", it has more or is at the same performance level as the 32-core M1 Max 14" model. While $200 more than the 14" model (same specs), it's clearly worth it (for those that choose Apple, I had but conceded it's not for everyone).
or... you could spend $800 bucks on a PC, and still be better than a macbook at 90+% of tasks AND not have to be locked into apple's "walled garden"(of hell)? I've said this for decades, and it's just as true now as it's been forever: the only reason anyone should ever be using a mac is if their job is video editing, or audio editing/composition. There is straight up 0 reason to use mac over PC other than that, there never has been, and it very much looks like there never will be. ARM or whatever reduced instruction set they're using for their processor is a step in the right direction, but they'd need to be outperforming an RTX 3090 for anyone who uses a PC(note: literally everyone and their mother uses a PC) to think about switching. can you imagine trying to run solidworks on a mac? how about autocad? how about any program ever? compatibility was trash before, but it's worse than it ever has been with their new processor. Mac's worst feature(you can't run windows programs) just got worse.
@@bobthebuilder609 And I fall into those two specific exceptions you stated. But I also am glad the competition exists. Without Apple, would Windows be more IBM OS/2 Warp? If a single OS/Computer vendor wins, innovation and the consumer looses big time.
@@BootStrapTurnerVideography windows rulz Apple droolz people will never get it. It’s ultimately a preference thing and competition is great. PC laptops are the best looking and best build quality they’ve ever been and it’s because they’re competing against the phenomenal build of a Mac. And everything I do at work and school can be done equally as well on a mac or a pc so I picked Mac laptops because I like how sturdy they are and I like the OS. Did I overpay? Yeah. That’s fine. Also the Apple tax isn’t even that high these days. They report a 38% profit on Macs these days. That’s lower than nvidias profits on their chips.
I had a 2014 15” mbp and I decided on a 14”. I love how much more portable it feels. 3.5 vs 4.7 lbs is a big difference. And it’s docked to monitors when I don’t need the portability
I had a 2016 15" and went with the 14" for the same reason. It's the perfect size, and I dock it when I'm working at my desk. The games I play work fine enough on the 14" and my primary use (video editing, music creation, and development) work perfectly
I used to own a 17" MBP and the thing was like lugging around a dinner tray. I loved that laptop, but if one is going to have a laptop - get a small one. It's meant to be portable, after all. Can always plug it into an external display.
I originally wanted the 14” but I saw them side by side and had to order the 16” the screen is beautiful and if you get the student discount it’s the same price and the 14” would be without
Still need an update from the last video addressing the questions raised by the Max Tech channel on the very sketchy benchmark and testing inconsistencies.
@@-SP. "easily" is a straight up lie. no one is switching from pc to mac for gaming anytime soon lul. Linux can't even get anyone to switch to it, and linux is free as hell.
@@bobthebuilder609 Because people don't want to deal with Linux, just look at Linus, even someone like him is having issues with it. These MacBooks have significantly better battery life than any Windows gaming laptop. That alone would be a good enough reason for many people to switch.
@@-SP. The whole concept of gaming on the Mac is still years behind, Doesn't matter how good they make a Mac it won't have anywhere near the support as windows.. And that is a solid reason why gamers won't move to a mac lol
A laptop cannot be called a laptop when it has to be plugged in all the time, it becomes a desktop. RTX 3080 laptops will drain their 80% battery in 30 minutes if unplugged and high performance mode. Winner: Apple
I wonder, are Linus and Luke going for a Mac switch after they are done with Linux? I'd be interested in their take on the Mac OS and how it stacks up to Linux and Windows.
Well you just can’t game on a MacBook so a lot of what they did in the series wouldn’t work anyways. Only option would be to use GeForce Now but that’s not an option for competitive shooters for example (anno on the other hand should run just fine)
I did exactly that in 2007. OS X at the time and now macOS is the largest installed base of certified UNIX. It's a very comfortable environment for Linux fans, but with a vastly better multimedia experience. I still opt for Linux on server installations when my clients give me the opportunity.
@@TraneFrancks Nobody really cares about certified UNIX anymore though. It was somewhat of a big deal back in the early 2000s when Linux wasn't really there yet. But these days Linux is king so "certified UNIX" means nothing. I have to agree that back then, a Mac was the best middle ground between Linux-based development (if you're dealing with code that runs on servers at all). On Windows you had Cygwin and that just absolutely sucked. However, things have changed. If you really care about writing code that runs on Linux hosts, but you don't want to run a Linux desktop: Windows is the place to be. With WSL2 you're actually running a full Linux kernel and everything that comes with it. You no longer have to hunt down Mac versions of packages or deal with slight incompatibilities. You just get the exact same version of the stuff you'd deploy on the actual server. It's literally identical. And with the great integration with Docker on Windows and VS Code, it's just an absolute pleasure to be able to develop in a true Linux environment by day, and just launch whatever game you want by night, on the same machine. Not that a Mac isn't a good development platform. It's also a good choice. I'm just saying that Windows has overtaken Mac in compatibility for Linux-based developers. But there is more to a dev machine than that of course. The battery life and trackpad are still reasons why a Mac could still be the better option.
awesome info, I went 14" for the form factor with a 1TB pro, glad to know it isn't throttling. 16" just too big for my use case, looks like I bought the sweet spot for this size :)
Got a 16" M1 Pro 10core cpu/gpu with 1tb of storage for under $2500 with student discount and $150 back in apple gift card. Legit a masterpiece of a machine.
Looks like it's mainly about software optimization right now. I do believe they will get there due to how strong the developer community is around apple products.
Video suggestion: 16" M1 Max on water (14, too) . M1 clearly is a capability vs heat output setup. Tear down that Mac, take off the fan heatsink, strap on a watercooler (or giant Noctua) and benchmark that thing sans bottom panel. Or to go simple, just water cool the heat pipe area. Or point an air conditioner at the heat pipes. It's wide open, would love to see if the Macs will run any faster.
@@JethroRose we don't do things because we should, we do them because we CAN. Like those guys making dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. I only saw the first half of the movie, but I'm sure it all worked out.
I could be wrong but didn't I see somewhere where apple dumped a bunch of money into implementing chassis intrusion detection systems so the laptop can't be run without the case being completely together?
If the iMac 32inch doesn’t have all the necessary ports like HDMI,SD card,USB ports and Ethernet on the power brick, while still being properly thermal cooled like the 16inch, we might as well just stick with the MacBook Pro while still using thunderbolt 4 dock
Anthony, thank you for the review. I just picked up a 14" and this machine it is close to laptop perfection. I am glad Jonny Ive's (Mr. make it thinner) left Apple and found something else to do. As you say the speakers and screen are amazing along with next level battery life. Even after streaming a TV show and playing Minecraft it barely dented the battery and the skin barely got warm. Gaming would cause any other laptop to get hot. Someone appropriately said, "Only Apple would create problems then charge you money to fix them."
I’m the victim of Jonny Ive’s MacBook Pro, during the summertime in Australia my 2018 MacBook Pro barely can run properly due to the overheat, I tried everything I could like disabled Turbo Boost, but still doesn’t stop it throttles to merely 800Mhz, it was devastating experience. Now I’m also keen to buy 14” MacBook Pro, may I ask have you found 16G RAM is adequate enough? I worry about this because I’ve been using 16G RAM of MacBook since 2012. It’s kinda difficult for me to buy another 16G of RAM after a decade.
@@yuvrajnautiyal1463 From a guy recording in a garage to a highly respected and well known tech channel. I believe 7 years is short for the kind of achievements they made.
One thing to note with Dolphin is that it actually supports Vulkan on MacOs, translating it to Metal through MoltenVK, so performance higher than what the benchmarks suggest should be possible, particularly in games where OpenGL misbehaves due to Apple's lack of support for newer OpenGL versions. (disclaimer: I haven't actually tested Dolphin on an apple silicon mac, but on my intel macs it runs massively better when using Vulkan, I would be very surprised if this behavior didn't carry over)
Since I got my 24 core M1 Max 16 inch..the 10-20 min 4K videos I do have been an insult to its power...the fans have never started up even once since I got it...Max temp I got was like 62C on 1 core
The 16" and 14" might benchmark the same, but the 16" will run for 1-2 hours longer with it's larger battery. It's mostly screen size but the battery life is big too I think.
The ecosystem is such a good selling point. So many small things I can do like copy something on my computer and instantly paste from my phone with handover. It’s seriously like magic.
absolutelly. Everybody talks about the ecosystem as if it was a joke and it really is freaking amazing. My friends have been passing to Apple because they see me doing stuff between devices like nothing. They usually ask me "wtf how did u just do that" and i go like "bro, u gonna laught: ecosystem"... Is one of those things that until u dont test u dont even remotely know what is really is
I’ve been doing some developer focused deep dives into these machines on my channel and so far I’m seeing improvements overall. However, Android specifically still struggles due to compatibility and setup difficulties, especially confusion around what JDKs to use with apple silicon
In my workplace. We use Mac M1 14” for development. We use docker to build our images and push them to the cloud. Compared to my Lenovo legion with Ryzen 4800H. The legion outperform the M1 like 2 - 3x faster using windows environment. Same RAM capacity 16GB and it is much cheaper if you don’t mind the mobility.
@@someonespotatohmm9513 yes. Some of the extensions we use with Postgres doesn’t work in M1 chip. Issues related to QEMU emulation. Some of projects we have just fail to run or hang up without a trace or reason.
Thanks. I would love to see you guys add an “on battery” category to your laptop comparisons. It would be interesting to see how the Zephyrus and the new M1 Mac laptops compare when running the benchmarks on battery power.
I got to play with one of these. The display (while gorgeous) simply had absolutely awful ghosting. Why has no reviewer talked about this? The soldered storage on top of the ghosting made it an absolute no go for me.
Probably because the majority haven’t noticed it because it isn’t awful. Can’t say I notice it at all on mine as well. Not saying it isn’t there, but your wording blows it way out of proportion and that’s why hardly anyone is talking about it. If it was as awful as you say you can bet users would have complained on mass, RU-vidrs would welcome the reason to make clickbate content. Not to mention the apple haters would be gloating with something they could finally enjoy besides the good ol’ it can’t do gaming weak excuse.
Yeah, like others have said, it's definitely a thing for people who are more susceptible to seeing the ghosting, but that's not the majority of people. For the majority of people it's one of those things where you don't notice it unless you are purposefully looking for it and are comparing it side by side to a monitor with faster response time. Otherwise they don't see it. You're 100% right to return it since that's a deal breaker for you, i just mean to say it's not one of those mass "it affects all buyers and everyone should be talking about it" issues.
@@VMYeahVN I was comparing it against older higher response time IPS displays and it was losing, susceptible or not it's really really bad. Moving windows slowly in dark mode or on dark backgrounds in general is incredibly smeary. Probably has to do with the bloom as well but it's not a good experience in that regard in general.
Not really the best game to benchmark with considering it is an MMO and performance can vary wildly depending on where you are. I believe Baulder's Gate 3 is native to Apple Silicon, however
Ordered a base 16", it's gonna arrive tomorrow! :D It's replacing my fully specced MBP 15" from mid 2015. I have had it for more than 5 years now and it's been so great. Never let me down and helped me get through college and work. Honestly, it still works amazing, just could do better with 4k footage, which this new one is gonna have zero problems with obviously.
@@syphonunfiltered Cant a guy share this enthusiasm? :D But your comment does justice for your name, hehe. And my comment was more of a testament to how high quality Apple products are, while people love bash them. And I've noticed that most people that whine about them, have never owned any. Yes, they cost a lot, yes Apple is nickel and diming their customers often, but the products really are great. Of course, this is my personal experience but from 10+ years of owning multiple iPods, iPads, Macs and iPhone, they've all been really great. So if you're still not sure, just give it a go if it's in your budget.
Going to return my 16'' M1 model because of it's horrendous screen response times. Dark text on bright background will immediately turn green/blueish when motion comes into play - which is basically all the time when scrolling through websites or moving windows around. I don't understand why almost none of the bigger reviewers addressed this kind of problem so far. Apparently the 14'' models are less affected by that issue. Would be great if someone examines the various displays (from different manufacturers maybe?) Apple built into these otherwise great machines.
You are just prone to ghosting, Apple has been using low latency panels for years and I never saw any problem in it for me as I just don't see ghosting when using the device when I am not actively looking for it. But yes some people are prone to it and if you are you should take a look at latency response time before buying something as that thing might be deal breaker for you
@@dominikhanus9320 I've been using Macbooks for years and never had problems with their latency - even though their panels always used to be on the slower end of the scale as you said. This time it's an obvious issue and every single person I've shown the device to (10+ people) did agree so far. Some more than others, but everyone agreed on blurry texts and image edges when in motion. Today I've had the chance to compare the 16'' with the 14'' model at work and it's clearly more obvious on the larger panel. With production/shipping times from 5-6 weeks (in my region at least), it simply wasn't possible to do a thorough test session long beforehand. Anyway, thanks for your feedback!
@JesseRedbull As far as I know Apple's "Liquid Retina XDR displays" are LCD IPS-Panels with Mini-LED backlights and HDR-Support (hence the "XDR" term). Depending on how the Mini-LED array is built, it may take a while for them to switch brightness levels. Compared to OLED, the light still has to pass through an additional RGB color filter layer. Probably the reason why this green/blue tint effect appears, I don't know.
@JesseRedbull I do have an external display, of course! But when on the go or just for casual usage apart from work, it's obviously not that handy. :D Maybe the 14'' maxed out model will be it. It's slighty better there.
@JesseRedbull The technology is the same, but the blur is less noticeable on the 14'' model. Probably because it has less pixels to push, I don't know. Settings like ProMotion or manually downgrading the the Hz rate don't really show a difference - it's the same effect, just slower in perception. The slight color shift and blurriness is still visible.
I’ve get to use the new 16” at my new internship. It’s heavy, but I don’t notice the notch with how much screen realestate I have. I keep my menu bar because of the notch, and it does help with checking the time and such. Love the size of the trackpad and I quickly adapted to the keyboard. I’m actually tempted to upgrade my personal 2014 MacBook Pro to another Mac given my experience. The only issue I have is if I still need x86 applications and can’t remote into my windows pc. For the past 3 years I had been looking seriously at leaving the Apple ecosystem, at least for my laptop. Now, we’ll see…
M1 Pro Mac Mini please. Mac Mini with an M1 Pro will possibly be the second apple product I ever purchase (the first being a 2nd gen ipod shuffle) assuming it comes with enough memory to make me feel comfortable.
For me, a 14 inch laptop has always been the sweet spot. I daily drive a M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14” and I honestly think it’s a good sweet spot for a laptop for a lot of people, due to the portability advantage and having virtually the same specs as the bigger model.
I love these new macbooks. Good build quality, amazing screen and speakers, great battery and fast. Might not be the fastest for the price, but if speed was all you cared about, you'd be buying a desktop PC, anyway. Not a notebook. So yeah, these are great products. Only thing that's missing for me is gaming, but I bet lighter titles can be emulated, anyway. I'm sure it can run things like Civ and other grand strategy games so that's already a big part of PC gaming that can't be done on a console... For anything more demanding than that, consoles or a desktop PC will do the job.
Yeah i think the thing with Apple computers is that price per spec doesn't really tell the whole story. Like Anthony kind of pointed out, yes you pay a premium, but what you get rather than the FASTEST CPU and GPU are a CPU/GPU that are fairly close to that, while being drastically more efficient, best in class screen, sound, and Apple ecosystem/software benefits. Not everyone prefers that obviously, and rightfully so, but i feel like calling it overpriced or "more expensive for what you get" is just not accurate because it ignores all the non-CPU/non-GPU intangibles. The only part of these Macs i'd say is really truly overpriced are those ABSURD SSD upgrade prices.
@@VMYeahVN It used to be a tough pill to swallow in the pre M1 era. If you think about it, with the shitty intel chips and amd gpu, they are directly competing with the windows machine counterpart, while being more expensive and having less performance most of the time, not to mention the butt load of problems with the stupid thin old chassis like the keyboard, heat and the display ribbon issue. The M1 is the most significant and here I say it, innovative thing apple has done for years. Along with the new chassis, they are truly a unique product in the premium thin-and-light market now, instead of just being "the same, but worse," like they used to. No one in the windows side can have this kind of efficiency while packing this kind of performance when needed (I think).
Oh yeah, as a dev/designer/photographer the 16" Max has completely changed my workflow overnight. It's faster than my gaming rig from 2014 without breaking a sweat. The real killer feature is that 30 minutes of charging can sustain me for most of my work day. Can't wait to try the new Blender alpha on this thing. Edit: and yeah I've been playing Cities: Skylines on this thing and it's great. So far I got a >30k population city without slowdowns.
You didn't mention the High Power energy mode that's exclusive to the 16". Look in System Prefs>Battery. You also didn't mention if you tried increasing Redshift's bucket size to 256 or 512. These will both make a massive difference to render times, in my own tests at least a 25% improvement in final render times. Benchmarks don't tell the entire story, you need to actually use the software and produce 3D art to test this.
@@buffysummers2320 The M1 max does match the 100W 3080 in a razer blade.....When fully optimized, metal, native apple arm and taking full advantage of their unified memory architecture....the software industry has been built around Intel/Nvidia/AMD for 2 decades now....give it time, we are seeing continuous massive improvements from many different software as developers optimize....by the M3 Pro/Max it should be mostly worked out. Also the M1 max gpu uses 40 to 45 watts max....Many gaming laptops, like the zephyrus m16 use literally double that, 80 to 90W for it's 3060.....and it can't maintain that power unplugged, while the MacBook performance doesn't change on battery. If Apple wanted they could have shoved 64 gpu cores at 80 to 90 watts instead of 32 cores at 40 to 45 watts, it would match the most powerful laptops even without optimization, the problem is that the 64 core macbook will now start acting like windows laptops, hot, loud and moderately reduced performance on battery. Im definitely excited for the future of Apple Silicon.
@@abhidahiya4007 he ain't lying. you need to plug that 3080 laptop in the wall for it to really beat the m1 max, which defeats the entire purpose of having a laptop. also metal optimizations are still work in progress, blender is in alpha for instance and doesn't even support gpu acceleration on apple silicon macs yet. once this transition is fully complete, apple is going to be miles ahead of the pc laptops, i mean they already are. i much rather use a laptop with 10 hours+ battery life than a laptop that needs to get charged every 3 hours. not to mention with apple silicon macs I get full performance whether on charger or not, not so with windows laptops.
"If anything remotely resembling the Apple logo makes you recoil in disgust, you're probably looking for reasons to hate it instead." That pretty much sums up the Apple-hating, tinfoil-hat wearing crowd. BTW, nice time for a Linus cameo.
As someone who had genuine reasons to dislike Apple in the past, I now have an iPhone, iPad Pro 12.9 2021, and am looking for a new arm based Mac. They’ve genuinely improved so much since the 2016 MacBook and iPhone 7 era.
While I'm not interested in getting an Apple Macbook since I'm primarily a Linux/Windows 10 user, I do appreciate these unbiased reviews. I have tried MacOS in the past, but I never used it long enough to get a good feel for it. It confused me to no end, so when I built my desktop PC I installed Linux Mint on it to save money as well as an experiment, and so far I don't see the need to install Windows 10/11 on it. If I ever get a job that requires me to use MacOS, then I'll adapt, but for my regular home uses Linux still wins it for me.
I use a Dell XPS 17 because it's required for some apps I need for work. It's something I grudgingly use out of necessity. My M1 Max is something I actually enjoy using for everything else due to all the little things that have been discussed ad nauseam on the web. The intangible enjoyment is far more signifiant than specs and benchmarks (for me).
How are you forced to use an xps? It's not like its the only windows computer. Also last I checked the dell xps 15 had better specs but that could just be the latest model.
I freaking ADORE the new macbook, and I'm a sucker for the 14 inch one since the 16 is a bit too heavy and big to carry around everywhere. But that freaking notch, it looks way too big on the 14, while in the 16 it blends easily into the top menus. Dammit apple, you're making me wait for the next gen.
Thanks to this video, I now definitely know I made the right choice going for the 14-inch MBP. However, I was dumb enough to grab the 14c GPU. I feel it a little bit when I play Minecraft where I feel it needs some oompf to get things going.
All of these comments about optimization and being a disappointment are so short sited. Is apple supposed to just not make these computers while waiting for developers to optimize software for machines that don’t exist yet? Look ahead! By the time everything is fully optimized the line up will have matured and only gotten better
The problem is people expect their +2000 USD laptop to do everything right out of the box, so can't blame them for not sitting around waiting especially if you use it for productivity like these laptops are marketed for
Nice video but I would have loved to see comparisons showing performances between plugged and battery power only. And with optimised software (not emulators using old graphical libraries, or games going through a translation layer) I know there aren't ton of software fully optimised that also exist on both platforms but there are some... - World of warcraft (Battery or Plugged) - Blender alpha (the M1 optimised) (Battery or Plugged) - Longevity under full load (with performances measures) => Seeing how each laptop hold with benchmarks on a loop, and what the bench number differences are between plugged and on Battery power. This feels like half the story after a long long wait.
I think theses machines will be an overkill when apps get optimized for the ARM processor. The blender example shows that an update of optimization can bring 4x times more performance. If the same happens for gamings, these machines could be very interesting for someone like me that uses the machine mainly for work but is a casual gamer
@@1uamrit Yeah, I know. I'm not a developer but I think that takes time for developing for a machine that came like 2 months ago. And before that they probably have to make some business analysis to understand if it's worth it and make the decision of development. Considering that other companies are moving to ARM, I am optimistic about it
@@AVLJunio no point getting device on future promises. The company may or maynot deliver on them. As a consumer we are at risk of not getting those delivered
