@@lukewalker7889 yeh I get you pal you mean like they cost you less money in the long run I know lads who's looked after there bikes and they don't break down at all but that's cos every 2 yesr or every yesr they put a dew hundred quid into it alot of parts on bikes if you service them and look after them there okay arnt they! Arnt 4 strokes more expensive bikes tho as rhe engines and stuff last alot longer?
@@joski9030 his goon riding is better then most people's serious riding.. that's the best thing about it.. removing the fender and mud guards also help obviously
@@PALADINKILLIAN-1403the thing is 4 stroke and 2 stroke are very different. Honestly 2 strokes are better and more powerful. It annoys the 4 stroke riders because they have a advantage
@@dirtbikinglucas I'd take a 2 stroke in the long run. You can take the entire engine out in 30 mins and rip it apart with minimal tools and training. Simple machines but they work beautifully. Easy to learn, easy to ride, easy to maintain when it eventually needs maintenance, these are competition machines after all.
@Taishawn White I can rebuild a 2 stroke in 30 minutes for under 100$. Small price to pay. If you on the other hand, blew up your candy ass bike, then you'd probably have to send it to a shop and you'll have to pay for labor and a top end. Both not cheap things in the 4 stroke world.
@@Chevy-yl3nb why would he get a bike with timing and cams and valves that’s way more complicated than a two stroke if they don’t know how to fix a bike
Afraid of what? An inconsistent power band? I’m gonna be honest I don’t ride or anything like that but I’m really into cars and engines and whatnot. I put a shitty little 49cc 2 stroke on a peddle bike and that was fun and whatnot but it had its drawbacks. Ofc every motor has its drawbacks but I feel like the 4 stroke is just better than the 2 stroke. I’m not saying it’s not cool or whatever but let’s look at it like this, 2 stroke- you need to mix oil with the gas and the powerband isn’t linear/consistent, but at the same time it’s a more simple setup and it MIGHT make more power than a 4 stroke by a couple hp depending on what you compare it to. With 4 strokes it’s slightly more complicated but at the end of the day, 4 stroke technology is just more advanced in every way. We have 4 stroke motors in basically everything lol. I’m not saying that necessarily makes it better but I just think that makes the “reliability” argument invalid. 4 strokes have a more linear power band, they’re more efficient, and (a big one for me) you don’t have to use a gas mixture. Plus they sound cooler to me😂. I see the appeal of 2 strokes, like yeah they’re kinda cool and the technology behind them is as well but I just don’t see a whole lot of mind blowing pros. I’m sure it’s cool and fun to ride a 2 stroke and I’m not knocking anyone for riding one because it’s all badass to me but I honestly just don’t think they’re better than modern 4 strokes
@@Lotta-Boost On a lot of points you are right, but 2 strokes are a very old design. However they are far from obsolete because of a few simple benefits. First of all, mixing oil is not an issue, in racing you only use high octane gas so who cares. Now that's that out of the way, lets talk about the inconsistent powerband. A 2 strokes gets more power at higher rpm. So it makes little power at low revves but high power at high rpm. This forces the driver to hammer the bike and therefore make him better/ faster. A 2 stroke delivers more power than a 4 stroke. a 125cc 2 stroke completely rapes a 250. It does that because of a few reasons, more power (HP and NM) and the bike is a lot lighter which matters a lot when you are driving it very actively. The " big pro if weight issue for you" is bullshit. Lighter is always better in motocross. A high performance 4 stroke dirtbike requires a rebuild after about 40 hours so reliability is not the most important aspect of it. Modern 4 strokes are getting quite close to 2 stroke power, but still lack about 20%, which is alot. I mean a little 65cc bike makes 17hp at the wheel! (2020 model ktm) the 125 model makes almost 39 hp! The 4 stroke variant 125 makes barely 30 hp. But in the end, if you are having fun its all great.
I never knew 4-stroke and 2-stroke people hated on each other like i get that 2-strokes are loud but that doesnt mean that you should hate on them respect to 4-strokes and 2-strokes
That and the limited market for two strokes tends to push people to four strokes. I honestly wouldn't mind a four stroke dual sport for cruising around Colorado and hitting a plethora of trails due to fuel economy alone.
They can’t lol, the amount of times I’ve seen 4 stroke riders get on a 2 stroke and fly over a burm because of the lack of engine breaking, or flip on their ass going over a bump because of the powerband kicking in is kinda hilarious. A 2 stroke rider can ride both, a 4 stroke rider can not lol.
I’ve had both I loved my 2 strokes. I have an 06 crf 450. Had since new. I will not criticize anyone for what they ride. Have fun and enjoy what you ride and how you ride.
@@OscZip idk man. 2 strokes really aren't that much more difficult. Sure its more inconsistent power, but it definitely isn't more difficult than a 4 stroke. They just have different strongsuits, and comparing them outside of their specialty isn't fair.
@@jacobbohlander263 I’m not, my mate has been riding two strokes for nearly a decade longer than I’ve been riding I race 4 strokes and I’m way better at riding then him he has a 250 2 stroke I have a 450 4 stroke and I smoke him in every hill climb drag race and hit jumps harder and faster then him
You gotta respect any machine but two strokes are just a whole different animal and I love 4 strokes I got a 400ex love it but I also have a atc 250r and it’s a whole different breedl fr you don’t just hope on a 2 stroke you will get messed up there is a reason why for your first bike you get a 4 stroke 😂💀 for the most part there are some people who hope on a two stroke for there first time riding and smack right into a wall or tree 😂😭😭
I'm a four-stroke rider 2 and we don't have to judge people just because of what they ride to strict writers need to respect to and it doesn't matter if the wise at 65 or a KLX 110 there's still all motorbikes are good
Sorry what I meant to say is that I'm a four-stroke rider 2 but we still need to give the respect to two-stroke riders too but we don't just take the respect for all of us four-stroke riders like we don't have to judge all motorbikes are good
@@BillCoxoutfit bro beginner doesn't mean you can't ride the bike at all, it just means you're starting to learn. There's a difference between what you think a beginner is.
@@yamaharaptor01able now that's what I'm talking about, the ultimate kx, half litre of insanity. How much you charge for stump removal? The kx in your video looks brand new, amazing
@@adamsmith5913 Hahahahaha....you're a riot lol!!! Yea,that kx isn't bad. Bought from the original owner,has a title, etc. 1993. I appreciate you checking out my video man,I have a 1990 in the same condition I'll upload at some point. Brraaaaaappppp!!!!!!!
4 strokers need to try and mock because it gives them a false sense of security and means they don't have to admit they get scared when theres no engine braking 😂
@@MDM1992As someone who rides both (2 stroke snowmobile and 4 stroke bike) I think it’s fine to have preferences based on what suits someone. If you want more low end torque and easier to just get up and ride without having to worry about as much wear 4 stroke but if you want the speed and acceleration of a vehicle then 2 stroke. Nothing wrong with preference nothing to hate on. They both have their own pros and cons and at the end of the day their both quite fun.
@@alexwilson9940 no pros that can ride them😂 lol that makes sense! 4 strokes have a way smoother power delivery so you can just gun in a higher gear and do not have to worry about being in the power band. And like I said the ktms and husqys the 300 two strokes definitely blow four strokes out of the water when it comes to enduro. It just depends on what your doing!
@@alexwilson9940 in supercross etc both bikes already have as much power as they’re gonna need, the 4 stroke power delivery is just more convenient, don’t need to shift 2 times out of every corner
I had only ridden four strokes my whole life and when I first got a two stroke I fell in love. I love how much more light and flickable they feel and not having as severe of engine braking, on my dad's 530 if you let off the gas quick in second gear without pulling the clutch its like you slammed the rear brake. I do like the more linear power of four strokes at times but the modern 300's pretty much feels like a four stroke with minimal engine braking and smoke coming from the exhaust
Not only does a two stroke have more power to do those jumps but you can redlinea two stroke and not kill your motor after a single riding day like that 4 stroke guy is doing
@@mikerafonemusic6177 I own both two strokes and a four stroke. I prefer the two strokes in litterally every scenario because they are unkillable, unlike my 4 stroke that keeps dying. the two strokes dont need any work at all until a topend replacement unlike a 4 stroke which needs valve readjustment every track day and the two strokes will last a long time wheras a 4 stroke tend to explode after a hundred or so hours of redlining. talk about these things once you have experience with them.
@@danieldustin6211 they were literally designed to redline, they are built so that all the parts can handle the forces necessary at redline because the 2t powerband ensures that you have to be redlining for power, you will never see a two stroke going fast while bogging because their power curve is almost straight up, unlike a 4 stroke the two stroke is made for handling higher revs better while the 4 stroke needs lots of work if you want to be banging off the redline.
@@dansavka7648 motocross isnt cheap but two strokes are cheaper than 4 strokes. 2 strokes are good for riders, they improve your riding ability, not detrimental on the wallet with maintenance and service, added trinkets with the sound and smell. They are crucial to either getting started or honing skills that you already have. I started on a kx100 rough at first but you will get the hang of it
i suggest the maico 700 man in my 20 years of riding it has the craziest powerband i have ever felt just never try and show off most expensive toy ive ever bought 700 two smoke bro
Я смотрю, когда на других видео двухтактные обсирают 4-тактных всем как-то пофиг, а когда 4-тактные обсирают двухтактные все сразу заступаются за 2-тактных.
@@benwalker7537 I do know what i am talking about. The bikes can take it. Just watch any pro rider and they are on the limiter all the time. What will blow up your bike however is if you are on the limiter for a longer period of time without cooling, say you stand still and hold the limiter for 1-2 minutes straight. Both 2 strokes and 4 strokes are purposesly built to handle beeing on max revs often, if you have cooling that it's
@@benwalker7537 there is a video you can watch if you do not believe me. A guy tapes his throttle to the rev limiter for like a minute straight. Altough it's certainly not good for your piston and cylinder, it shows the bikes can take the abuse
@@yeetcannonblaster5396 Not even close I rode my kx85 for years alongside my dad and his friend on kx125s never needed a rebuild. He passed away at 45yo back in 2016 and stopped riding. Guarantee my bike will still start all these years later
@@yeetcannonblaster5396 bruh we have a 40 year old 2t bike and we never had to rebuild it. Even after 20 years of daily use and 20 year of weekend use.
That is so inaccurate. If you ever witnessed someone who can actually ride they are always way more fluid on a 2 stroke. 4 strokes are for people who can't commit.
What they didn’t show you was the 2 stroke guy got all the bitches and his bike still works. And the 4 stroke rider just spent a months wages on rebuilding his valves he just shat everywhere.
I love how the 2 stroke video he's showing has the rider who's not even trying, I've seen tons of videos where 2 stroke riders are ripping it on the track and they're really aggressive
