2 years of owning a McLaren out of warranty 

Easy to MF the car when you can't afford one .

People with money don't believe that's a solution. They can already afford it, they don't WANT to pay it.

@Thomas B only so many jobs you can fit in your schedule bro

3rd year video coming soon!

HVAC controls are quite often dead or going dead, very apparent and I sell a $800 fix for it. The underbody strakes are often broken, I sell those as well. If you see a replaced transmission in the service history don't fret. Until the near future, any transmission related issue was resolved with a replaced transmission. That includes fluid leaks, shifting funny, even a general hydraulic issue (because the suspension, active aero, and other functions work with the transmission). They're just now nearing actually servicing items instead of replacing the transmission. Look for leaks around the suspension, it would indicate an accumulator going bad (above the spring). If there is an adjustable volume for Intake Sound Generator in the instrument cluster it has the power upgrade (it was free, very common to have it). I'd avoid very low mile cars, definitely not less than 1k miles per year but I like to stay around 2k miles a year or more.

He didn't take cheaper alternatives. He took BETTER alternatives. :)

I've got a playlist of DIY service, modifications, and troubleshooting I'll be adding to as well.

@@McMedics Awesome! Also 'hate I missed that Bristol autocross earlier this month. I debated it but was up to my elbows in NSX electricals that weekend :( . Would have loved to see it run!

@@LapoftheWorld I drove terrible for various reasons, but tomorrow and Sunday I'll be in Franklin, NC at a 4 session event.

I'll be in Franklin again tomorrow afternoon and Sunday morning. I was in Asheville last week and will be on the 30th as well. No spectators allowed though. You'd have to stay outside the fence if you aren't driving. It's those limitations we're dealing with.

I rented a 12C for a few days in Vegas from Royalty Exotics and absolutely loved it! It is so light weight and fast! Smooth lines. A classic beauty. Love the interior. What a blast it was. For comparison I’ve rented the i8, also a great car but not nearly as fast, an R8, not as nice as the i8, a Viper, yes it wants to kill you and terrible A/C. And for shorter periods I’ve done group excursions that included Ferrari F430, 911 Turbo, Gallardo, Murcielago, Ford GT, Continental GT, Z06 and on the track I’ve done laps in the 458, the Huracan, Aventador and others. On the track the 458 was the best then the 12C. But the 12C is more exotic and preferred in the city and highway. The lambos have the best sound but too heavy for the track.

With just a tune on a 12C, it goes from faster than a 458 to where'd the 458 go.

You might be right if I valet'd it, but I didn't. I trust parking with everyone more than I trust a valet. Others have experienced that gear breaking, they just replaced the motor instead of fixing the gear.

If you're used to being able to move your left foot very wide it's something to get used to. Once I got used to that it isn't cramped.

Try driving with your shoes off if that does not work. I am same dimensions w/ big old feet

I could and would absolutely do that given the opportunity.

I don't have a 2 post lift. I have a 4 post and while it is nice to have it isn't required. I've done clutch service, transmission service, water pump, oil changes, etc on jack stands multiple times in people's garages.

I'm creeping up on 44k miles, I'll probably be around or over 45k at year 4 video.

Damage can be repaired on the body panels, the tub repair, which is why cars get totalled from it, is expensive to repair.

@@McMedics Thanks !

You probably have seen it there! The 12C and 650 are nearly the same car, that comes down to preferences in appearance for the most part. I feel both of those are better than a 570 on the whole, but cost of ownership is lower on the 570 by a little bit because it doesn't have the things that make it better.

I've heard a lot of "horror stories" too, from people that have never owned them or had them right out of the gate. 2012's specifically have unique door entry to every other year or model, 650's have a few little things on the engine updated like cam phasers. The key to getting a good car is getting one that DOESN'T have low miles. At least 2,000 miles per year will be the best car, that applies to any brand. I wouldn't get a Ferrari, Lamborghini makes some pretty good stuff but those aren't flawless either. There have been VERY few actual transmission problems with these cars, it's literally the same transmission all the way through 600LT's and the 4.0L cars are extremely similar. I have an early 2012, #362, and I'm friends with the owner of #258 and his car has also been extremely good.

Whaaaaat that's crazy. That seems high even for a dealer, very high.

and great point about getting with miles. i drove my bently offten and had no problems. I lost my common sense for a min and u brought me bk down to the basics

@@McMedics just looks like the company is trying to charge as much money as possible for repairs rather than making the repair process as easy as possible and taking less margin there, building a reputation, and being a more desirable car/ selling more cars. They are depreciating their own cars by having a stigma that extremely expensive to repair. The "let's make money" business guys never think of the consequences

@@Tential1 I confirmed yesterday even Beverly Hills only charges $800 for an oil change.

I can do it lol

You wouldn't be the first doing exactly that, seen it 3 times already

Have you seen my video that includes how to change the keyfob battery?

McMedics come to you for less than the dealer as well. If your friends are blowing engines they're doing it wrong, like crap tunes, not letting them warm up before bouncing off the rev limiter, or not checking oil level. Transmissions don't go bad either, dealers replace them unnecessarily because of corporate procedures and stupidity

Mind you, obviously cost of maintenance is also mindblowing. 7 grand for a windshield is ******* insane. Only an asshole of a company will charge that, regardless whether is a supercar or not.

So you're never going to own any 6 figure car or anything from Tesla? Those are $6k windshields.

A windshield isn't maintenance either.

The rotors are quite expensive to replace, but they rarely need replacing. Funny enough, they're the same as C7 Corvette carbon ceramics I think it is. So, cheaper when you apply it to a different application and interchangeable. The pads you do have to replace eventually (I haven't had to yet) there are some aftermarket options that are better than stock and IIRC they're about $1,200 a set. So realistically they aren't that bad.

Get diff pads

Jus do front brakes leave rear

A lot of parts are over the counter parts store stuff, consumables anyway.

Mileage alone isn't a "stay away", but there are things to consider and be aware of.

It's #362. 3rd party warranties are much less than the McLaren extended warranty, but you've also gotta be aware of what they will and will not cover. I've heard stories of not covering significant items or pay out caps. I've also heard of things like $2,000 deductibles, which in my case means I'd be paying out $3,000 a year to still not use it after paying all I've paid.

EMF Autos case by case bases. It’s been good to me with covering any electronics like the little displays on the doors. Car #2599 here . Take care and thanks for sharing!

Look at year 3 and year 4, already up

No, that is in fact a very few and far between issue. I think in Hoovie's case the issues were more owner related than car related. The entire time he had it there were no issues, with anything. There have been more Ferrari 355's on fire than McLaren transmission failures. For perspective, the 3.8L engine and transmission found in the MP4-12C is the same one that is in the 650s, 675LT, 570s, 570GT, 540GT, P1 (engine only), 600LT, MSO X, and 620R.

EMF Autos wow! Thanks for the info!

For basic things like reading data and resetting check engine faults or more involved solutions?

I'd do it! I travel to work on these cars, that's my whole business model. I've been to San Antonio twice this year, I was there 2 weeks ago even.

But why? Prices are only going up.

There should be, but there isn't!

2012 MP4-12C

And that Toyota won't give you the same enjoyment either. It's the price to pay for entertainment. Though all things considered, your point could be made for a luxury brand as well. Mercedes repair could cost the same as McLaren.

I haven't had any transmission problems. It's a myth about the failures. There are very few actual failures. Until recently McLaren warranty replaced transmissions for anything connected to the transmission too. If there was an air brake fluid leak they'd replace the transmission because the systems are connected.

@@McMedics thanks for your answer, i will buy one.

No, the car was originally from a dealer in TX.

Fliuds not cloud

Clutches disengage when stopped, don't need to use neutral, it's not a Lamborghini.

That will obviously vary on the cars location, driving record, miles driven in a year, age of the driver, etc. For me it's a little over $2,000 a year but I know some pay $500 a month.

They are, I'm just showing how.

More than that if you go to a dealer for them to reset it. It's also not an option for people hundreds of miles from a dealer. I now Have the ability to reset it myself but this video is for others.

Without a doubt yes.

@@McMedics where did you say you lived? east coast? I'm in British Columbia Canada.

I'm in South Carolina, USA. I travel the country a lot, often on the west coast.

@@McMedics I have an Alfa 4C right now but will be wanting the 12C as soon as I am able...

@@McMedics are all McLaren steering wheels interchangeable? or do I need a 12C specific wheel?

The mirror is motorized constantly if enabled. Since I fixed it, hasn't happened again.

That's pretty common at that price point of car.

You shouldn't be if you're actually driving it. Like the video says, it's only as bad as you make it. Just don't go to the dealer and the bill will be at least 1/3 on everything you would need.

I drive it all the time

What cars do you have?

What exactly have you driven? Ferrari definitely aren't built better. Do you like your buttons sticky? RR isn't in the same category.

@@McMedics Don't even bother responding to sporadic comments like this. They must have been having a stressful day and figured to shitpost for some stress relief. I guarantee they didn't even watch the entire video. I did, however, and you did a great job! I'm actually an engineer for the company that owns the very platform we're on :) and work at the Austin office. Only a couple years removed from University now, but as a car enthusiast, I've been looking at a few different options to buy. I was a bit drawn back by some comments about reliability issues, but I'm glad you went into some detail about your own experience/maintenance/fixes. This definitely provides a new perspective for me on the 12c and McLaren, in general! I'm a very hands-on person, so doing service work for the vehicle, whichever I choose, on my own is going to be a blast. I've been curious about buying: Lotus Evora 400/GT, Porsche 991.2 CS, Giulia Quadrifoglio (sure it's not the same class, but... driver's car), McLaren MP4-12c. I haven't driven a single one yet, but am still gathering information on all of them to make the best decision and will hopefully be doing so very soon! Thanks again for this content!

What exactly is it you're referring to that makes it a "lemon"?

@@McMedics It's American. Look up "lemon law." It varies state by state, but generally it refers to cars that are consistently problematic beyond the industry standard. Basically a piece of shit that keeps breaking.

I am American, and I know what the lemon law is and how it works. I'm not sure you do which is why I asked what made it a lemon. The lemon law applies to a $500 car or a $5 mil car if it was made anywhere in the world. I'd the law kept pieces of shit off the road, 1/3 of the cars in SC wouldn't be on the road. Inspections keep pieces of shit off the road. Lemon law keeps a consumer from dumping money from the same issue (or warranty claim for the same issue) into a car where the issue isn't getting resolved when sold.by a dealer. Most states you have to have it taken in to be repaired 3 times in less than a year for the exact same issue.

This McLaren is more reliable than my ex wife's Dodge Caliber she had. Dealer maintenance costs are high, DIY isn't, but break/fix isn't bad.

Not reliable according to whom? Did you even watch the video? People sell GT2's for McLaren's pretty routinely.

It's worth noting dealers are franchises, the manufacturer doesn't control pricing of parts or actions of service.