The literal wall of dead that acted like a barrier and fortification for the guard was the most accurate and most Warhammer thing I have ever seen and I love it
There’s this short story called: *”duty unto death”* In the short story 6 custodies take on an entire splinter fleet of tyranids while protecting primaris tech. For several days they fight none stop, literally building a fortress made out of corpses of the tyranids. In the end, the custodies defeat the tyranids after their Shield-captain defeats a swarm lord in 1vs1 combat after weeks of none stop fighting. This causes the tyranid fleet to break. Not long after, marines malevolent reach the system answering the heils of the custodies. I found the passage: *Vrul strode down the ramp and onto the ash plains, already buffeted by the pyroclastic winds. He spat, and watched the ashes sizzle, before casting his eyes up.* *He beheld a fortress, wrought of victory.* *The corpses of the tyranids had been utilised, not as grim totems of warning or fear, but as once-living brick and mortar. Spurs of bone and chitin held the walls in place, adding to the solid foundations of hewn basalt which they augmented. The flesh of the beasts was seared, blackened, and had run together in places - further annealing the materials together.* *Before it knelt a lone warrior, so still and grey that he seemed another victim of the calamity - an ashen sculpture of ruin. He moved, then, and the Space Marines jerked their weapons up. Vrul did not bother, merely sneering with bemused disdain.* *‘Who goes there?’ he asked. ‘We answered a priority transmission, swathed in clearances fit for a Chapter Master, and all we find is you?’* *‘I am Tamerlain,’ the survivor said. ‘Shield-captain of the Adeptus Custodes.’ He forced himself to his feet, and gestured. Behind him, the techno-arcane mechanism of the sarcophagus hovered like a relic of ancient Gyptus. His brothers and their arms were lain upon the Primaris gene-cache, reverently. Like honoured kings.* *‘I bear word from Terra, and the promise of the future. I bring the means by which brotherhoods such as yours shall weather these nights of fire and blood.’ He touched his fingers to the casket. ‘And you shall help me to bring it where it is needed most. That is my duty, in His name.’*
Ayy, loved seeing the mountains of corpses that are so often described in the lore. Climbing over hills of mangled bodies to reach the combat. Would be quite interesting to see as well how SM heavy weapons teams would swing the tide of this. Imagine a line of marines with heavy lascannons or melta weapons. 1 shot would incinerate thousands of zombos in this kind of press. A single bolter round would easily pass through a dozen rotting fleshbags and the subsequent explosion could probably blow apart quite a handful of them afterwards. So 100 marines holding heavy bolters and just letting loose could have devastating effects. Ahhhhh to nerd over 40k, one of my favourite ever past times.
Promble is ammunition overheat and etc. Bolter rounds are expensive and heavy, while melta plasmz and etc eat huge amount of energy and ammo while exploding if overused...
A hive city holds between 10 million to several billion inhabitants - This might happen, yes - But would also be more easily countered, with the use of vehicles, flamers, grenades and the like; Imagine a dreadnaught facing this entire pox-walker hive city alongside his brethren. Brrrt goes the minigun.
Look at that Marine that died at the feet of the Emperor at 47:33. Just _try_ to imagine his joy and elation at receiving such a honour. Should his feelings and emotions reach the Warp, that alone would be enough to make Tzeentch recoil in horror.
When it comes to Chaos invading a world, this is about as accurate as it gets. I especially loved the rivers and lakes of blood forming from the sheer amount of casualties. This is something that is often mentioned in the books.
The lessons of this are clear: failure to adequately supply artillery (in the form of Earthshakers, heavy mortars, and Wyvern platforms) and armor (in the form of Chimera, Hellhound, and Russ tanks) resulted in the loss of an unacceptable number of Space Marines and, worse, the minor inconveniencing of the immortal God-Emperor.
This is what I imagine when I hear about battles in 40k. So many fighting and dying that it soaks the ground red, and then both of them shrugging it off as "just another fight."
normally the only force in 40k that gets scared enough to retreat is the orcs or the tyranids .. most factions are not afraid to lay it all out on the battle field right then and there
@@SirSlyDingo Not entirely true. Imperial forces will withdraw if whatever they're fighting over isn't worth it. I don't know about the Tau, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same. Chaos, being Chaos, depends on many circumstances. And Eldar of either kind flat out *will not* pick a fight they don't think they can win 100%.
Watching the line of black templars to red with blood that spatters their armor as they wade into the horde hacking dozens of zombies to shreds with each swing of their chainswords while advancing was awesome.
@@DeathBYDesign666they're used to fighting gods? Are you new to 40k or just a poser? You think space marines fight the chaos gods directly? What even...
That wall of Astartes, inching it's way up north, pulling the beleaguered outpost out of it's siege, heading into the mountains, while the main defense location continues to fight even as the Nurgalite hordes still advance. This here is what 40k is all about
Those Kreigers are badass for surviving all the way to the end. The emperor would probably personally commemorate all of them and they would no doubt become legends of their regiment
Guardsmen: i cant believe i survived, i cant hear shit now. Cant wait for those imperial guard benefits to kick in.. Administratum: your hearing loss is not service related
Well obviously it's because he didn't get it documented for several months immediately after the battle before he was discharged so they didn't have enough medical history on file to prove it happened then. That's what the understaffed medical personnel everyone hazes you for going to see are for! That's why you keep copies of everything so you can prove the stuff that should have been on file is there despite half the stuff in the field being an informal "get it checked out when we get back" and then "No, you can do that later, we need you for a layout!"
I think a thousand zombies to a marine in a direct fight is fair, but only if the marines are dumb enough to let zombies rush them and fight head to head. They'd pound the area with ordnance then mop up, probably lose noone
@@barrylyndon5552no way. 20 million zombies could never even make a single dent on *a* space marine. It's like saying you could punch through the armor on a tank. No you fucking can't. Even if the zombies are twice as strong as a human the marine is still impervious to any attack from a zombie. 0 damage X 20 million is still 0.
For me the single most 40k thing about this entire video was not the space marines killing obscene numbers, not the literal mountains of bodies, not the endless sound of conflict that went unceasing for 20 whole minutes. No, the single most 40k thing about this video was in the first 10 seconds of the attack, when the guardsmen decided that the best way of winning this battle was to fix bayonets and CHARGE into the unending hordes of the enemy.
Same, i think i had the biggest smile on my face seeing that. The Guardsmen did well holding that line. And seeing the literal river of blood and bodies flowing down the mountain felt like the Dawn of War 3 trailer.
They are fighting beside the Master of Mankind. You know, the one they're doing it for. Morale is staying at 100% and never dropping for 'em - this is their redemption, no two ways about it.
Love how the small fort in which the Emperor and his men were first defending raised in elevation just to the sheer numbers of bodies they piled up before moving.
That is just... surreal! The zombies were able to enter into the fortifications, because they formed a mound of corpses. In the end, both cities were lost, not to a winning enemy but to a DEFEATED one, with the towns buried under piles and piles of dead zombies.
Honestly one of my fave bits with this was following the last Blood Angel(?) as he pushed from the first compound with the rescue team, fighting throughout the various different battle lines, before heading off to hold off the main horde remnant till his dying breath
Blood Ravens, also known as the "Definitely not Thousand Sons successors" unironically a cooler chapter than the blood angels imo. Even though DOW III is awful and has terrible lore the Ravens' lore is pretty awesome
With these blood slicked mountains, Khorne will be pleased. Momentarily. You'd think that by being an hour into an unrelenting melee onslaught that chainswords will be less a chain weapon and more just a regular sword with teeth, with its gear mechanisms jammed by gore and gristle.
@@battlesimulatorgamernext time you do this.... Watch BRICKY'S introduction into WARHAMMER 40k so you can have EVERYONE PARTICIPATE in a battle like this ..
According to my great grandad, thats exactly what it was like fighting the Germans in WW1. A huge grey mass that were climbing over the dead to get to the Brit lines, no joke.
I don't know what would be more horrifyng, for the british to see an unending barrage of enemies that didn't matter how many you killed, there were ten more behind, or for the very same germans, forced to advance, walking on the corpses of so many people with your same uniform, and you cannot see the ground anymore.
i would put them up for spacemarine training asap and see if they make it and if so well you got yourself one hell of a fighter that outlived and fought custodies
I mean I think the Emperor would agree at this point but likewise if he wasn't a corpse he'd probably purge all the space marines and Inquisition and sisters and massive sections of the guard leadership. Or maybe he'd just give up and yeet himself into the warp given how far astray from his vision the imperium has drifted
That’s exactly why they were split in the first place. So no primarch could command should numbers again in opposition to the Emperor. I mean forget the fact that each chapter still answers to and blindly follows their primarchs and their lineage.
yeah but now imagine that force turned heretic and now that massive amount of space marines is invading Holy Terra. Thats how you get the Horus Heresy 2.0 lol. 1000 space marines converting and invading wouldn't be as detrimental as 20,000 would
@@Cobra-mb2gx devils advocate: the chapters no matter which ones will always heed the call of their primarch. Basically I’m saying if Big Blue said “my sons join me in ridding terra of the warp spawn chaos gods possessing my father, so he can finally know peace , blah blah blah.” Do you honestly think (in universe) any chapter descending from him would say no? I mean you’re talking what 500,000 marines, and I’m not even counting the primaris marines, all saying “yes my primarch” without blinking. Terra would have a chance during the age before Guilliman or the lion came back because the Chapters with the same gene-seed wouldn’t necessarily unify because let’s be honest space marines still have the ego (or loyalty to the memory?) to not follow other chapters or individual chapter masters other then their own. That all gets thrown out when your own Primarch returns.
@@tarn1135 I understand what you're saying, and I totally agree with you lol, I was just responding to the original commenter and giving another reason why the legions shouldnt be so massive. But yeah you make a good point
I have no idea how this simulator works, but it's awesome. It's also would be a perfect way to present battles in what's called the Wars of Unification. When the Emperor united earth. Weird different troops of all kinds. The space Marines would change to Thunder Warriors. Who should be a lot more of a melee force, and honestly tougher then the Space Marines. You could add guys not much smaller then the Emperor (his bodyguard the Custodes) who are really tough.
I thought space marines are to thunder warriors as primaries marines are to space marines. Thunder warriors definitely tough but aren’t space marines are the upgrade
@@adamkhan4451 Space Marines are more stable genetically and psychologically. Thunder Warriors were "hothoused" and were prone to random catastrophic sudden mutations. Also, they were brutal tools. Not really directed/led in combat, more unleashed. Not only were Space Marines easier to mass produce, they're much more genetically stable and can take orders. It took the Custodes and all of the first run of the first SM (literally the 1st Legion Dark Angels) legionaries to deal with the TW. It took an average of 10 Marines to take 1 TW. As for the primarus.....some mechanics twit "improved" the Emperor's designs huh? Smells like alpha legion shenanigans to me. (Check out Oculus Imperia, he's got lore videos that are unparalleled)
Imagine shooting at the horizon and getting a headshot message, The coolest thing about the video was the fact that despite the fact that they were the main line of defense, at the end there were still members of the imperial guard alive.
That terrain quickly went from snowy mountains to blood and corpses. So high were the piles of the dead you could use them as ramps. I'm happy some Kreigers survived despite their best efforts. They did some good gun support.
Strategy put aside by overwhelming arrogance of the Space Marine. The fact that there were still some guardsmen alive at the end was a fav moment :) I tried not worry too much about the Ammunition logistics ;) Top video :)
Awesome! This was like a real storyline battle. The Space Marines run to their leader and then charge together against the continuing threat! The only thing I don't agree with is if they were set up according to the actual lore, the zombies would've stood no chance. Especially if Land Raiders and Titans were involved. Fun to watch regardless though....there is something oddly relaxing while watching this slaughter of millions....odd but true! haha 😃
True, the emperor would probably eradicate the chaos beasts simply by gracing their blighted forms with his presence. And any Astartes could probably kill off the entire hoard on his own. Since there are only pox walkers they have no way to harm the space marine whatsoever, so even if said marine did become completely exhausted somehow, they could literally sleep for a week while the pox walkers hopelessly threw themselves at the armor.
Grenades. Flamers. The Astartes just holding their chainswords out front and letting the press of the enemies' bodies do the work. Would have cut down on stress, trouble and casualties by a lot.
This was great. I do feel like in reality 20k Space Marines would have demolished the zombies with only 10% casualties at most, since instead of just chainswords they would have other weapons and vehicles. Nonetheless, it was a great battle.
Imagine being one of the sole conscript or cadian survivor of fort 2 and being rescued in extremis by black templars. A life worth of PTSD, but on the plus side, you were obviously and directly protected by the Emperor so I guess that evens out ?
There is a 40k short story "Endurance" by Chris Wraight that is about a space marine holding his own against an entire horde. I think they describe his hearts bursting from exhaustion.
All I can hear is a legion of Space Marines gruffly singing "I'm Still Standing" in unison, giddy as schoolgirls, as they wade through hordes of undead corpses like great, armored scythes through wheat. Its beautiful lol
Lets be honest, there wouldn't be a Space Marine casualty. No zombie is getting through that armor. It's only a matter of time. The SM's would drop dead of exhaustion first.
Huh, interesting. You can see the lines of marines thicken and thin at points, and it looks like the defining factor of when they were able to dominate or were slowly whittled away, was whether the group of marines could keep their guardsmen alive behind them. Strange.
@@Lord-Regent-of-the-Imperium The tip of the spear is the likes of the Space Marines, the Adepta Sororitas, the Custodes. You could perhaps argue that the rest of the spear is the Mechanicus. But the man holding the spear, his fellows beside him, the entire phalanx of them, and all of their friends, families and people they've ever known is the Astra Militarum. You don't get to be called the Hammer of the Emperor for nothing! They are the mainstay fighting force of the human race, and games focus on what's particularly special.
@georgesmaga1520 No, the one holding the spear is the Emperor. The custodes don't do as much, the sororitas don't field as many units, and the mechanicus does its own thing a majority of the time. When we're talking about primary fighting forces, we're talking guardsmen and astartes.
The mechanicus is the smith of the spear, and sees that it is well made, honed, and repaired. The Space Marines are the tip, the guard the shaft. The sororitas, inquisition, combat mechanicus, and other irregulars form the reinforcement between the two. Too few to be the shaft, too frail to be the tip, but just strong and numerous enough to hold the two together. The hand is the administratum, the telepathica, the astropaths, and many others. Weapons of war they are not, but without them, the spear would be left on the wall. And the Emperor and his Custodians are the shield. Perhaps unseen and unfelt by the spear at times, yet without it, nothing could survive or continue. And the body, the heart, is Humanity itself.
What a Dark Day for the Imperium. The Emperor won a Pyrrhic Victory against the forces of chaos Zombie Army. Over 40k troops lost incouding thiusands of Space Marines. Many the emperor knew himself
It’s amazing to see the warriors that advance instead of retreat in a defensive fight. Samurai, Jedi, and now these guys in red do that too. Cool stuff! Ps. Just realized their suits where not red to begin with. Madness.
What would be the setup for this? Alt universe where the Emperor didn't die, somehow separated from custodes and any vehiclular support on this ice world. Working with the Black Templars, Blood Angels, and Ultramarines. I guess it was a plot set in advance by Nurgle by having his undead remain buried beneath the snow in ambush, though they still needed to gather for the assault.
@@vadandrumist1670and Blood Ravens moreso I'd say, since they're all but confirmed to be a Thousand Sons successor. No amount of alternate timelines could create this. The Emperor would purge the Templars and Ravens. The Templars for worship, the Ravens for dangerous use of psionics and probably a myriad of other minor offences which would disgust him.
I concur. Haha I know of 2 people who absolutely savour these biblical type battles! Now they may act squeamish when they see it, but boy, if you could see their real face when they are watching it.. :)) I dunno, it gives them a chance to write poetry and songs, which they feel is what beautifies their lives. This adds value to our lives. We need this in our lives. Watching these, now this really made our day/week. The virtual stuff is enough for me though, but I know of at least 2 people who would turn the sim into something real, if they could! Sending the way of this channel 2 very enthusiastic+eager fans of epic world wars and battlegrounds :)
Stuff i loved about this battle: Warhammer40K Theme and that it was a dynamic battle were both sides were trying to get into a certain position and not just a static defence
And this is why terrain is the most important aspect of any war. It looked like the Space Marines were going to lose a couple of times but once they got the high ground and a number of choke points it was over for the zombies. GREAT VIDEO TY! Btw it's a small thing but is there a way to make the counters permanently with a black background so we can see the numbers clearly all the time? a lot of the time it seemed transparent. Hope it's possible as I love to see the rate of kill ticks :D
Terrain and a commander to have them hold the line/order. Once their love was broken, not reinforcing to stop getting flanked. But let the sim provide entertainment
pretty sure the Emperor just uses his psyker abilities and crushes these zombies, i mean if he can force an entire legion of space marines(word bearers) to kneel imagine what he can do to a normal human flesh body
I don't think that was Yonkers. Yonkers was a total disaster due to use of shock and awe and giving audio and video communication to most of the soldiers. I do remember later in the book they were out testing the new box formation and tactics, but ended up pulling a huge hoard which became their biggest victory.
This is amazing and I would argue fairly accurate. Providing the emperor used his psychic might to empower and make his imperial guard immune to the virus.
Since the Emperor is here... you also need his personal bodyguard of the golden Legion, his 10,000 Custodes, their captains like Valdor, their contemptor dreadnoughts and nights, the penitent warmachines and the sisters of battle, the blanks and pariahs, one to amplify the Emperors attacks and the others to nullify or dampen any major psychic attacks. Land Raiders, Chimeras, Storm hawks, Valkyries, Land Speeders and Basilisks along with the battalions that operate them and the auxiliary armies of skittari that protect the Mechanicus' adepts who repair and maintain the war engines. Titans are overkill but are mainly a show of power. All in all 20 mil undead may not be worth deploying such military expenditure for the Astra militarum, but because it's the Emperor, all the highlords of Terra won't complain about a single imperial coin this time. Kinda makes you wonder: What must be on this planet and so important that the Emperor set foot on it and is going to war up close and personal? Nothing a few earth shaker cannons couldn't deal with in mere minutes.
the blood ravens claim that the emperor GIFTED his very own powered armour to the chapter, however there are no records of this and everyone else calls bullshit
I hope the devs develops this game further, and/or improve this game for future releases. Here, the units are just trying to swing to each other, neglecting their combat discipline, formation, or basic communication between units. Much less expecting any hint of commands and map awareness. In my observation, seemingly just moving on to each other by the closest possible path. Not sure if such logic script patchable or had to be built from ground up, but it definitely would look more believable and even more awesome than it already is. Also, imagine air superiority, while we're at it. Having AC130 doing flyby death from above, but limited to several salvoes until it had to refill ammo and fuels, or maybe GoT dragons. Should be doable, but not saying it would be easy. Friendly fire should stay at OFF, tho. The physics codes required to achieve the condition where it can finally be turned ON quite possibly still way too demanding.
@@tonyyul703 I'd prefer adding unit practicality first, based on their training or depiction in media and history. Imagine Spartans automatically form phalanx formation when we group them together, covering each other. Wall of shields the entire horizon, thorned with pikes, pushing forward. Only switch to their sword when shields been breached for CQC melee brawl. And it won't just be one line of them doing it. Or Rohirim cavalry actually smashing through foot soldiers. These guys don't stop their horse and swing their sword to each unit they encounter in their path. They swing it while also charging. Let's reduce their charging speed when it happens to imply collisions to make it believable. Or Roman Elites actually commanding the units they're assigned to, with soldiers following their lead. Looking for the weakest link in the chain, and attack it. While also trying their hardest to maintain their number. Retreat a bit, if they have to. Or the musket soldiers lining up for firing salvoes. Or the special forces actually being special forces. These guys won't just stand there and shoot stuff. Now ,that level of implied order and discipline, would be even more epic for a spectacle. I'd even forgive their infinite ammo or simplified animation assets to cope with hardware if these feats can be displayed lol But yes, when we could establish that aspect, then we finally add weapons variety.
@@Jakaze_ yeah I'm also aware. Most probably due to either technical limitation or unrealistic deadline. There will always be constraints or strings attached... Such is life
Kind of what I imagine the death plagues invading a small hive city would look like. I like this. Missing some war crys from the lads but will let that slide. Maybe some reinactments of 40k wars could be good 👍
2 things when the defensive wedge of cadians in the emperor's fortrss fell you got me cryin' there Totally lore wise accurate the deathkorps of krieg charging after being "rescued" Really nice video btw
This was surprisingly enjoyable. After the first minute I thought, well, this is stupid. And then I got actually excited when the Marines arrived to brake the siege around the Emperor at the first little fort there. 82 minutes well spent! :D
I have a feeling that if more guardsmen had been on the walls at the start they would have had better kill/death ratios. Also at 55:33 I'd call that trickle down zombinomics.