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2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY Meaning of the Monolith Revealed PART 1 (2014 update) 

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The monolith as a symbol of the cinema screen itself.
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Meaning of the monolith 2014 update. Written,edited and narrated by Rob Ager.

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@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 года назад
Folks, an updated version of this video has since been posted on Oct 25th 2021. The new version is less explicit in its explanation than this 2014 version, but it also contains additional information. Watch it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KYcekxnsjyY.html
@kevinleonard4226
@kevinleonard4226 2 года назад
Posting here instead of the new video because I didn’t want to be a spoiler. It’s fine with me if you want to delete this comment from this thread, too. I don’t care about likes. Just wanted to contribute and support your theory, soon to be canon, I figure. Regarding the dimensions of the monolith - in the book, Clarke says the ratio of the monolith dimensions is 1:4:9, but he also gives the measurements 1.25 feet by 5 ft by 11 ft. If you do the math, it is not actually 1:4:9, but 1:4:8.8. This is quite significant because the ratio of 4 x 8.8 is 1:2.2 and matches - guess what? - the ratio used in Super Panavision 70mm. It makes me wonder if Clarke was so bad at/ or ignorant of the calculations, or if he was intentionally giving bad math to hide the big secret. Great job on the video.
@tangibleandroid285
@tangibleandroid285 2 года назад
Brother, you need to watch this puppy on a large screen TV.
@tennysontableau
@tennysontableau Год назад
Yeah, but that version isn't in "Square-O-Vision" like this version. Oh, the irony.
@Fredrockroll
@Fredrockroll 8 лет назад
I know Kubrick's real intention here: Film you cellphone's videos in the horizontal position, people!
@HDDynamicFilms
@HDDynamicFilms 8 лет назад
+Fredrockroll Jeezus thank you God!
@JasonT404
@JasonT404 8 лет назад
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@hongry-life
@hongry-life 7 лет назад
Why is it called a cellphone anyway?
@RokkitGrrl
@RokkitGrrl 7 лет назад
The term is "cellular phone" and they're called that because they access cellular radio networks. The radio networks are distributed into sections called cells which are centered around base stations which broadcast and receive radio signals. The technology is similar to CB radio except CB (citizens band) is a simplex radio which means that only one person can talk at a time, which is why you hear things like, "Over" and "Out" at the conclusion of sentences and conversations. Cell/mobile phone technology is basically duplex radio, which means that both people can talk at the same time.
@Emppu_T.
@Emppu_T. 7 лет назад
its the only way
@EpioN
@EpioN 2 года назад
This is a better version than your new video. I can just listen to this and not be forced to watch it or be annoyed by the beeps.
@plsrematch4071
@plsrematch4071 Год назад
The beeps made my ears hurt, completely ruined the video
@DevinDTV
@DevinDTV 4 месяца назад
It's also moronic drivel.
@jcairns111
@jcairns111 10 лет назад
I'm sure the beep at the end of the video was relevant in more than a few ways but fuck me my ears.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
***** I dropped the tone to 40% of its original volume too.
@ThatsAllFolkers
@ThatsAllFolkers 10 лет назад
Collative Learning Horrible noise. I wear earphones.
@mikicoal
@mikicoal 6 лет назад
I like the idea of the monolith representing the cinema screen, but it's from the other side. When anyone looks at it curiously, they're looking at us, the audience, who have always been there, but just went unnoticed. This whole realising that your life is a movie for somebody else's entertainment thing is the evolution of consciousness.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 года назад
Hmmm that’s a good way to describe the film, evolution of consciousness. Kubrick I believe said it was a religious experience? Give or take. Now I wonder if that’s what he meant. Not a Christian perspective but intelligentual
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 Год назад
Damn! That's why it's empty! It's not the blank frame of the movie, it's what the movie feels like looking out at the darkness of the audience. Damn.
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 Год назад
Yeah that's what the dawn of man is all about. We never see the first human being emerge it's about the dawn of consciousness
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 Год назад
Although consciousness is over rated. Most people on the planet, possibly including me, don't qualify as conscious life
@AmateurVolcanologist
@AmateurVolcanologist 10 месяцев назад
Wrong. The biggest directed human evolutionary tool is mass media. That’s the message.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 года назад
I saw 2001 in London when it first came out in 1967 at the Odeon Leicester Square. It was shown in Cineraama with Dolby surround sound. The Graduate was being shown at the Cinema opposite at the same time. We chose 2001. Fantastic. Apart from taking Acid it was the most mind blowing experience that I had had. I was 22.
@Michel1234-n3t
@Michel1234-n3t 2 года назад
Why was it mind blowing?
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 года назад
@@Michel1234-n3t because he was watching a movie
@Michel1234-n3t
@Michel1234-n3t 2 года назад
@@whitedragoness23 Jesus that's a low bar
@devonaveii2675
@devonaveii2675 2 года назад
@@Michel1234-n3t it's mind blowing cuz he claims he saw it in 1967, when the first premiere of the film wasnt until April 2 1968! This man is a time traveler
@Michel1234-n3t
@Michel1234-n3t 2 года назад
@@devonaveii2675 that is mind blowing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@aidanschram9652
@aidanschram9652 8 лет назад
Thanks for killing my ears at the end
@sgriffin8560
@sgriffin8560 6 лет назад
That's what I was gonna say. Cruel and stupid way to end a vid. That's one.
@schismaticschematics
@schismaticschematics 5 лет назад
@@sgriffin8560 Sort of like the piercing tone that the monolith emits though, no? I seem to recall they used to trasmit a tone and testcard like that back in the analogue tv days.
@ricksanchez5123
@ricksanchez5123 4 года назад
Turn your head 90 degrees and it goes away.
@simo4875
@simo4875 4 года назад
@@ricksanchez5123 You're right! Can anyone explain why that works?
@donkeyslayer4661
@donkeyslayer4661 4 года назад
You weren't using them, anyway.
@macseagle5968
@macseagle5968 4 года назад
The monolith is a Hershey chocolate bar.
@perfectionbox
@perfectionbox 4 года назад
Oh don't be ridiculous. It's clearly a dark chocolate.
@PurpleColonel
@PurpleColonel 3 года назад
It's clearly a Wonka bar, haven't you seen the Burton movie???
@II-xd5ds
@II-xd5ds 8 лет назад
Watched the film for the first time last night on my phone. My mind was completely blown before the movie even ended. But, it wasn't too long into the intermission that I began to feel a little uneasy. I didn't want to skip past it for fear of missing any important details, so I sat patiently, just staring at the reflection of myself in my.... in... the..... 😱.
@loge10
@loge10 6 лет назад
Sigh...that's why movies are so bad now...
@kotonizna
@kotonizna 6 лет назад
on your phone... what kind of fuck up life you have?
@FirstLast-vb1re
@FirstLast-vb1re 6 лет назад
m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wKiIroiCvZ0.html
@lcdcac
@lcdcac 6 лет назад
ROTFLMAO! Thank you for that.
@ismailsimsek332
@ismailsimsek332 5 лет назад
And that vast emptiness made you think...
@alex76gr
@alex76gr 8 лет назад
I have a much simpler explanation for the monolith. The monolith serves the purpose of a catalyst for the thought. The world of the apes is full of chaotic shapes, rough surfaces and lack of geometry. The monolith has a flawless smooth monochromatic surface, sharp acmes and precise straight lines. These characteristics are totally absent from the objects that surround the apes. The impact the monolith has on the thinking of the apes, is crucial as it unlocks "thinking processes" in their brains that were previously almost impossible to unlock. Eventually, the thinking level of the apes would allow them to use simple tools but this would take a lot more time without their interaction with the monolith. The monolith was put there to speed up some processes that otherwise would take a lot more time to happen and that's why i think the monolith is some kind of catalyst.
@marcleblanc3602
@marcleblanc3602 8 лет назад
That's interesting the brain that has been un-intelligently designed has locked processes that are like 'junk dna' and not needed, as in the Survival processes drives mindless Nature has and given to her creations... - I think this explanation is the classic schoolroom one for the Simple.
@AshU-ug2fy
@AshU-ug2fy 7 лет назад
If you stopped at 3:00 because you felt this guy took to long to explain something simple, how the fudge did you sit through 2 and a half hours of 2001 without stopping or fast forwarding? XD
@Asptuber
@Asptuber 7 лет назад
I like this idea way better than the "teaching machine" one. It also ties in nicely with the general theme of "maths~mysticism" that is also very present in 2010. Talking ACC's world now of course, not Kubrick's. (Always been more of a written word person, sorry). You could also expand this idea to incorporate the pyramid from the original short story - only why not make it a tetrahedron :-), and then throw in a few more "perfect objects": Sphere, cone, cube...
@Bacabrazzers
@Bacabrazzers 6 лет назад
nice
@DennisMHenderson
@DennisMHenderson 6 лет назад
alex76gr saem differens
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 5 лет назад
Seeing the precisely shaped monolith in such a prehistoric setting was very artistic and abstract art on film and of so ahead of its time. It plays with your mind so effectively. You can't sit and readily accept what you're seeing. All very deliberate.
@Plasmawiz
@Plasmawiz 8 лет назад
For anyone out there who is thinking of mentioning the book/movie 2010, just remember that Arthur C Clarke himself stated that all the books and films take place in slightly different universes, and should be treated as both singular stories as well as anthologies.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 года назад
I always heard the book was the companion to the film. Now I wonder is it really? Or just a side show for those who rather be feed the story
@iyziejane
@iyziejane Год назад
@@whitedragoness23 I read the book in the 90s because I wanted to better understand the film, and it did help with establishing the correct basic interpretation of the film (which maybe I would have gotten myself, but I was a child at the time). But the revelation that the film is the monolith makes it clear why Kubrick's story ended here, while Clarke's sequels 2010, 2061, and 3001 are more like standard science fiction.
@gidagorfen8947
@gidagorfen8947 4 года назад
I recall way years ago in college writing about 2001, and got an A+ based on my interpretation based not only the movie but what was actually more revealing by reading the book. One thing I never considered way back in 1979 in college though was that the film and monolith were representative of the viewing ratio of 16:9 (or thereabouts), something that was so unique in 1968 when I first saw it (even in 1979). An amazing cinematic representation of what is commonly used today in widescreen. So many things about the film depicted technologies that now are a given...videoconferencing, ATM's, retinal scans, and much more. What an epic film (and novel) it was! I doubt it could ever be recreated again (hope NOT). I recall that even NASA said that the depiction of the spacecrafts were technologically correct in depicting artificial gravity and the design of the ships. Regardless of what the monolith represented, the movie and novel depicted the evolution of man.
@nandoflorestan
@nandoflorestan Год назад
Wait, but aren't the monolith proportions 1 by 3 by 9 (powers of three)? Or was this just stated in "2010" and I believed it? Has anyone actually measured the monolith proportions from a scene in the movie? Someone else said in the movie it's 2.2 to 1, which is higher than 16:9. Anyway, I guess even if not exact, the thing does resemble a door and a cinema screen.
@oscarernestoroberts4190
@oscarernestoroberts4190 Год назад
Indeed the screen rectangle was a medium for the viewers. YET, a real persplex pyramid was built and Kubrick rejected it cos it.didn't look quite crystaline. Hence they made 14 woodenrectangular monoliths and painted 'em black. They handled 'em with gloves to avoid fingerprints. The pyramid-monolith, the alignment it's a symbol of SIRIUS star, the pyramid pointing up there.
@HarrisonHollers
@HarrisonHollers Год назад
Did IBM and NASA influence Kubrick with suggestions for what technology would be advancing forward* in the future?
@dukeon
@dukeon 7 месяцев назад
@@HarrisonHollers That’s a great question. I know IBM was extensively involved in the computer screens aboard the different ships and with the stargate sequence, but I don’t know any more than that. There are a couple ‘making of’ documentaries out there that I plan to watch soon to learn as much as I can. There’s also a book that was written in the 80s, possibly? I think NASA probably had its hands full with Apollo in 1967-1968. Arthur C. Clarke was very close to the most recent discoveries and technologies regarding space exploration, though, and in fact he actually predicted the geostationary communications satellite in 1945, 20 years ahead of when Intelsat-1 would be launched. I would be surprised if Clarke weren’t an uncredited but important consultant for Kubrick on matters of physics and astronomy.
@dukeon
@dukeon 7 месяцев назад
@@nandoflorestan It was filmed on 70mm stock and used dual spherical lenses to achieve a 2.20:1 “Super Panavision 70” aspect ratio. Note that some widescreen films are 2.35:1, or even 2.51:1, so 2001 isn’t the widest film out there or even close, but it was an unusual aspect for 1968. The large format means the film is still incredibly crisp and detailed today even in UHD 4K. My mom saw 2001 with her friends when it came out (I wouldn’t be born for a few years), and she remembers seeing it in at the Cinerama Dome in Los Angeles, where it was projected onto a 3,000 square foot dome that literally curved around the viewer much like some of today’s large monitors do. I don’t know exactly how it didn’t distort the geometry of the picture, that’s something I’ll have to look up. As far as the monolith, in the novel it’s said multiple times that its proportions were 1^2 x 2^2 x 3^2, or 1 unit thick, 4 units wide, and 9 units tall. 9/4 indeed = 2.25, very close to the unusual film aspect ratio of 2.20. This could be coincidence but I doubt it - it’s Kubrick after all. The film never talks about the dimensional aspect of the monolith, but it well could be that the props department used a 1 x 4 x 9 ratio. I don’t know.
@BillyNunez2
@BillyNunez2 10 лет назад
when the alpha ape realizes he could use bones as tools, the monolith flashes then he turns his head about 90 degrees
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
***** Yep
@luke.v.
@luke.v. 10 лет назад
I noticed that too. It takes Moonwatcher a while to understand the Monolith after tilting his head a few times. Then he picks up the Tapir femur. Also Sprach Zarathustra plays at this moment too, linking to the Earth and Sun rise, which, as put by Rob, is tilted 90 degrees.
@dougohboy5190
@dougohboy5190 6 лет назад
Collative Learning..;.. You still don't know its true meaning.... and its not talking about aliens.....
@scarletradiopodcast
@scarletradiopodcast 5 лет назад
@@keneutsey2693 what language is this you speak in?
@stevennieto9898
@stevennieto9898 5 лет назад
What does the sun have to do with the monolith though and on one occasion they show the sun and the moon above it.
@yoelkric5105
@yoelkric5105 8 лет назад
That beep sound in the end almost gave me a heart attack.
@NuvoEdits
@NuvoEdits 8 лет назад
3001 a laced odyssey
@Eudaimaniac44
@Eudaimaniac44 6 лет назад
nein. the FINAL odyssey.
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 6 лет назад
4002 a blazed odyssey
@harrisong2251
@harrisong2251 6 лет назад
Great album
@georgeparkinson1314
@georgeparkinson1314 5 лет назад
Zombie gang
@lclucky8146
@lclucky8146 3 года назад
Here after found in Utah
@SilenceTheGod
@SilenceTheGod 3 года назад
Same lol
@adoggification
@adoggification 3 года назад
Same
@bfpierce
@bfpierce 3 года назад
Here after being curious about the art of film making by Kubrick.
@ba6561
@ba6561 3 года назад
@@bfpierce space time traveler! Tell me the news of your time!
@Chronz
@Chronz 2 года назад
Wat?
@charlesrast4235
@charlesrast4235 4 года назад
Now. Kubrick was just one of those once in a lifetime kind of person
@JA-yz8eq
@JA-yz8eq 5 лет назад
such good stuff Rob, coming back to these videos years later still top class
@QuarterMan88
@QuarterMan88 8 лет назад
really you gotta end it with that fukn annoying noise and screen? please dont...
@BrucknerMotet
@BrucknerMotet 8 лет назад
that was painful
@gorgo54
@gorgo54 8 лет назад
have tosay the bars and tone at the end....... ugh!!!!
@RsCastleCrew
@RsCastleCrew 7 лет назад
Reminds me of that not the nine o'clock news sketch with rowen akinson rubbing the top of a glass
@roberte4656
@roberte4656 7 лет назад
It was intentional like the noise from the monolith on the moon.
@blatanthiphop-cricy9818
@blatanthiphop-cricy9818 7 лет назад
Vanilla A:: you didn't see the movie.
@aloc23
@aloc23 2 года назад
in modern age, the monolith also closely resembles a smart phone
@Archetype77
@Archetype77 4 года назад
I get that people are mad that he hurt their ears at the end, but it is pretty cool to have people naturally reenact the moon scene where the characters hold their heads in pain at the feedback sound.
@tomyakoz7354
@tomyakoz7354 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@griffisbrent
@griffisbrent 9 лет назад
One of my favorites. Thanks for the new updates!
@rockwallcat
@rockwallcat 6 лет назад
The monolith being the screen theory was mind blowing. Sir you had my curiosity but now you have my attention.
@pardyhardly
@pardyhardly 6 лет назад
You REALLY had to put that ear shattering electronic shriek at the end ? That made your video a Screamer, Dude. Seriously, turn down your volume at 7:31.
@MrMisterWelz
@MrMisterWelz 4 года назад
I thought it was pretty funny :D now you know how the astronauts felt on the moon. Thats true experience :)
@dianathompson7597
@dianathompson7597 4 года назад
He sent you a signal,, like the monolith did.
@ahegaojosuke3250
@ahegaojosuke3250 4 года назад
Cry me a fucking river please.
@linkenski
@linkenski 8 лет назад
The impressive thing about this is, you just pointed out one thing Kubrick put into this, but not the only meaning for it.
@ShiivGaming
@ShiivGaming 9 лет назад
I've been mindfucked
@Zachary1234567890Mon
@Zachary1234567890Mon 9 лет назад
bro, you are not alone
@thrashedd
@thrashedd 9 лет назад
agree
@Nic33rd
@Nic33rd 10 лет назад
Fantastic update! Really looks like you're having more fun with your videos these days.
@randybailin4902
@randybailin4902 5 лет назад
The monolith is a sled that Dave remembers fondly from his youth.
@artandcard
@artandcard 4 года назад
hahaha
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 года назад
No it was not. It was a door to the basement where all manner of vile things happened to him. When he was, found, he was taken out of the basement, huddled in 5he fetal position saying, "find a safe place, find a, safe place..."
@moodist1er
@moodist1er 4 года назад
Rosebud
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 года назад
@@moodist1er Never look up what, "rosebudding," is. There are some things you can not unsee that you wish you could.
@j.a.b.productions762
@j.a.b.productions762 4 года назад
Lol
@MisterG2323
@MisterG2323 8 лет назад
I've seen "2001:ASO" at least 23 times theatrically, including at least 3 times on a Cinerama screen, and innumerable more times on the glass teat, and have to say I enjoyed your thematic analysis. Very interesting interpretation. I don't entirely agree with it, but you've motivated me to dig my disc of it out again and rewatch yet again. Thanks! Who knows, I might have to come back here and argue with you. :)
@vulnerablerummy
@vulnerablerummy 5 лет назад
weird fl3x but 0k
@MadMax22
@MadMax22 2 года назад
@@vulnerablerummy nah I like it. It means you're opening yourself to the possibility of learning something new and engaging in debate. Living with your senses instead of with your words.
@vulnerablerummy
@vulnerablerummy 2 года назад
@@MadMax22 jeez, it's been 2 years and i've already forgotten why i write that
@kyyy8821
@kyyy8821 2 года назад
@@vulnerablerummy legendary reply dw
@a.j8307
@a.j8307 10 лет назад
I've been reading your site for years. I was surprised to see you update on 2001 because your analysis seemed so complete. I love re watching movies after reading your theories, especially A Clockwork Orange. Just wanted to say I'm a big fan.
@vincentleeadams
@vincentleeadams 5 лет назад
Your videos continue to blow my mind; I am impressed.
@DarthDJJD
@DarthDJJD 10 лет назад
Thanks once again, Rob. Your work has changed my perspective on watching movies. I know that you tend not to analyze movies that have been recently released. But I wanted to put this one in your queue, if you had not done it yet. I recently watched "Under the Skin", starring Scarlett Johansson and directed by Jonathan Glazer. I also watched "Snowpiercer", starring Chris Evans and directed by Joon-ho Bong. I was thinking about your analysis techniques when watching these films, so I thought these films would be right up your alley as films to dissect. These films were "a breathe of fresh air". I knew these films had something, simply by trying to describe them to my family and friends. Their response was that I was crazy or smoking something - the same reaction when trying to describe Kubrick's films. Love your work!
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
DarthDJJD Thanks. A lot of ppl have recommended Under The Skin, though personally I was disappointed by it. Although it seemed to have a message I didn't think it was well communicated or that the film was very well made. Far too unnecessarily slow and not in a good way like space odyssey where there's vitually something interesting going on visually even in the very slow parts.
@DarthDJJD
@DarthDJJD 10 лет назад
No problem. At least there are filmmakers who are trying not to make shallow, blockbuster movies. There is hope for more intellectual Sci-Fi movies, instead of everything being a Marvel comic book.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
DarthDJJD Oh I def preferred it to all the crap films I switch off after ten mins.
@mrunseen3797
@mrunseen3797 8 лет назад
Basically he is talking for 6.30 minutes to say, that the monolith is a 90 degree tilted movie-screen...and some conspirancy theories thrown in.
@RatatRatR
@RatatRatR 4 года назад
What did you expect?
@elirien4264
@elirien4264 4 года назад
Thank you.
@tedskam
@tedskam 4 года назад
sigh. What he is saying, is Kubrick is explaining how the "Masters" are "evolving" We The People deliberately via our screens. Via our "Programming" on those screens. And even though its as evident as the nose on your face (that you can take a selfie of), you still can't see it.
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 4 года назад
@@tedskam sigh sigh sigh imagine being so arrogant and confident because you watched one 7 Minute video as to say "it's obvious yet you miss it, how could you not see it like I do", even if you're right you should learn to be a bit more humble sigh sigh
@tedskam
@tedskam 4 года назад
@@TheGreenTaco999 LOL. You may be right, but I'm still right.
@tylerjohnsmith
@tylerjohnsmith 10 лет назад
And -BOOM- just like that, a new wave of minds blown! I am very excited for this update and always looking forward to new projects. Your work means so much to me, Thank You
@cinemalego
@cinemalego 10 лет назад
I really like the suspense that you had going on midway through the video :P
@themcwilliamsshow6289
@themcwilliamsshow6289 7 лет назад
thank you for making this video
@jaredkaye3669
@jaredkaye3669 7 лет назад
The song used in the beginning and end of the film is "Thus spoke Zarathustra"by Richard Strauss. The song is a tone poem mirroring the sentiment of the book written by Nietzsche with the intent to make music that isn't anti-semetic or pro proto-Nazi. The meaning is to "think for yourself". Strauss wrote a sequel to the song in 1898 called, "A hero's life" where he demonstrates being an "superman" doesn't have to include hating the Jews. Wagner and Germans upset with the banking industry openly criticized the song implicating that it was an autobiographical arrogant self-congratulation because it deconstructed the plan of utilizing Nietzsche philosophy to justify racial driven socialism. When the Nazi's lost WWII they were brought to the US under project paperclip and started NASA.
@FiggsNeughton
@FiggsNeughton 2 года назад
I left a somewhat mean spirited comment on the updated video due to the awful noise you put in, but watching this version, I have to say you really are one of the best channels on youtube. Thanks for everything you do Mr. Ager!
@maumendoza
@maumendoza 10 лет назад
Great Update, your videos always blow my mind
@sheerkhanful
@sheerkhanful 5 лет назад
Rewatching 2001 after having seen your vids. Early on in the film, after the first appearance of the monolith, when that single primate seems to be looking at the monolith as though he's getting an idea, I think it's interesting that in the midst of his inspiration he turns his head sideways to look at it. Would you attach any significance to that? Seems to fit well with your analysis.
@discoverydavid
@discoverydavid 6 лет назад
I heard a telephone conversation with Kubrick and he said the whole Monolith and ending were meant to depict Alien lifeforms...
@samuraifugitivo
@samuraifugitivo 6 лет назад
The monolith is the screen between the programmer and we, the program. This movie is a story of man discovering we are all a simulation, Gods game.
@TheDayd111returns
@TheDayd111returns 3 года назад
That explains a lot! Ever notice why are computer screens, TV screens and phone screens all look like monoliths. Like you said, between the screens are the programmers and we are the program. You are very right. We're addicted to our everyday technology and they're realistically controlling us through the screens... through the monoliths. Monoliths still lives on, we carry them everyday on us. Smart Watches, Phones... Whatever. Any tech with a screen on is a monolith. That's why it's so easy to control the public. We're the experiments. The simulators. Technology with screens evolves us everyday!
@FantomasXZ7
@FantomasXZ7 7 лет назад
I find this interpretation of the monolith most appealing. Its like a story inside a story; it recalls Magritte's surealist painting "This is not a pipe" or Velasquez "Meninas" were us viewers are subtle, but direct participants. Congrats!
@10908070605040302
@10908070605040302 8 лет назад
Interesting analyses indeed, no need for the sharp sine wave tone at the end though !
@snowinblood5243
@snowinblood5243 6 лет назад
i concur
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 8 лет назад
are you seriously telling us that kubrick put together this amazing film just to troll everyone??
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 5 лет назад
You could actually argue that.... Kubrick has openly stated that he has multilayered themes in his movies. It's quite goddamn amazing.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 5 лет назад
No. This isn’t right
@kunalbahuguna242
@kunalbahuguna242 4 года назад
There is a god damn article which says Kubrick made Eyes Wide Shut to toy with Tom Cruise. This is nothing.
@paulettesgoo
@paulettesgoo 4 года назад
YES.
@tedskam
@tedskam 4 года назад
@@kunalbahuguna242 And he damn near made Stephen king stroke out over The Shining, too. Kubrick put his 200+ IQ points to good use...…...
@Mr.Altavoz
@Mr.Altavoz 2 года назад
Great video .... Thanks for the work!
@1SELFIEpls
@1SELFIEpls Год назад
The resemblance to a smartphone is uncanny. It is absolutely blowing my mind.
@malignor9035
@malignor9035 10 лет назад
I love this new take on your monolith revelation vid. It's a bit more dramatic and tongue-in-cheek. Hey, I would love to hear what you have to say about the 1960s TV series The Prisoner. I feel like the commentary delivered by that show is more than the depth most people see. I know, I know ... "it's a commentary that we're all in the village, prisoners" blah blah... but there's more than that.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
Just got The Prisoner box set for my birthday.
@malignor9035
@malignor9035 10 лет назад
Collative Learning I remember my days as a young adult in university (in the later 1990s), my parents really liked the show and so the whole family would gather around the TV when reruns were being replayed. The Prisoner, The Avengers (BBC series), The Saint (with Roger Moore)... even Reilly, Ace of Spies. I'm happy to have discovered such an amazing lineup of old shows which matured my wonder at the world of espionage. Suddenly the Bond films and similar were revealed to be ridiculous, childish and trite, while films like The Odessa File and Ronin seemed to capture the gritty, terrifying, paranoid and depressing world of the cloak & daggar. But what sets The Prisoner apart is how it had so many layers, and I knew (on some level) I was missing most of what was being communicated in each episode. That mystery is part of what held my fascination. This was long before I even pondered how to pick it apart and cross-reference like you do. I hope you do a review of some episodes. I think it will do the series some credit, and perhaps draw a new audience from among your subscribers.
@taronson15
@taronson15 10 лет назад
What do you think of the movie Pan's Labyrinth directed by Guillermo Del Toro? I think there's a lot of hidden meaning and symbolism in it, especially pertaining to Spanish culture and Ofelia's own feelings.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
taronson15 Watched it once and enjoyed it. For some reason I haven't yet been compelled to revisit it.
@Pantano63
@Pantano63 9 лет назад
Del Toro said that the story could have been set anywhere (initially it was set in the Mexican Revolution), so it's not specifically about Spanish culture but any culture which deals with war and it's influenced by Catholicism, e.g. the Paleman represents pedophiles who can only "see" children with their hands.
@lineageiii4098
@lineageiii4098 8 лет назад
+Collative Learning did you notice the monolith in Interstellar movie? when I haw that AI moving it scared me
@roybatty3989
@roybatty3989 2 года назад
You are next level Rob, keep up the hard work.
@janethayes5941
@janethayes5941 3 года назад
You blow my mind every time I watch one of your videos.
@TheKrensada
@TheKrensada 10 лет назад
It is because of you that i started looking for a deeper narrative in film.
@kingrhuts1422
@kingrhuts1422 5 лет назад
The 7 “things” during the space out transportation from the second monolith is mirrored from the seven things on the back of Dave helmet. He’s no longer thinking with the back of the mind he’s now learning using his frontal lobe and knowing a deeper knowledge of himself and his true purpose of existence. It’s all about an individual subconscious learning experience. Everyone sees it differently no matter how similar some opinions may be.
@bruinironside
@bruinironside 2 года назад
6:22 "Please refrain from causing any paradoxes please."
@kitanko1
@kitanko1 7 лет назад
“I tried to create a visual experience, one that bypasses verbalized pigeonholing and directly penetrates the subconscious with an emotional and philosophic content. I intended the film to be an intensely subjective experience that reaches the viewer at an inner level of consciousness, just as music does; to ‘explain’ a Beethoven symphony would be to emasculate it by erecting an artificial barrier between conception and appreciation. You’re free to speculate as you wish about the philosophical and allegorical meaning of the film - and such speculation is one indication that it has succeeded in gripping the audience at a deep level - but I don’t want to spell out a verbal road map for 2001 that every viewer will feel obligated to pursue or else fear he’s missed the point.” - Stanley Kubrick: Playboy Magazin (1968)
@Amplifymagic
@Amplifymagic 9 лет назад
Could the Monolith be representing Sacred Geometry and the pattern of Nature? The Golden Rectangle, fractals and Fibonacci sequence etc.
@MikeJarvis1
@MikeJarvis1 7 лет назад
I always interpreted the last scene as some kind of post-Einstein commentary on space and time or even the solitude of a human life and detachment ( maybe even Nietzsche-Ian as some commentators noted). I've always been more interested in that meaning of that scene than the monolith for some reason.
@acutenezz
@acutenezz 2 года назад
you should get the book, just got it and haven't touched it yet but i plan on getting a deeper understanding on the whole of 2001: a space odyssey
@Admiral8Q
@Admiral8Q 9 лет назад
Very well said! Even Arthur C. Clark never knew how the pyramid turned into a rectangular thing. If you've read "3001 The Final Odyssey", then you find out what the monolith is.
@marcopederzoli4939
@marcopederzoli4939 3 года назад
I can add, to further support to your interpretation, that before the beginning of the movie we hear the same music that is later heard inside the monolith. And before the beginning of the movie, all we can see is a black horizontal screen.
@RaulRodriguez-fg8zg
@RaulRodriguez-fg8zg 9 лет назад
I could not disagree more with your interpretation but I do commend your passion for this film. To your monolith explanations, just because Kubrick wanted to avoid the monolith appearing akin to an electronic visual screen does not mean that this is what the piece symbolically represents. My impression is that the piece masterfully demonstrates the power of silence and the finesse of higher order intelligence. While there is no mention of extraterrestrials, this information is implicitly inferred in the very beginning of the film. Clearly the monolith did not come from Earth. Thank you for posting this video! Interesting to ponder.
@Danileptic
@Danileptic 2 года назад
Agree with you 👍
@Michel1234-n3t
@Michel1234-n3t 2 года назад
Well sonce a guy named Raul said that with absolutely zero supporting evidence lets all just agree with him🤣🤣🤣. Horse shite Raul
@MadMax22
@MadMax22 2 года назад
@@Michel1234-n3t why do you gotta be so rude about his Analysis? Even if he's wrong or right and object can still represent the power of silence and finesse of higher order intelligence. Like Stanley Kubrick being silent about the potential true meaning of the monolith or the finesse of higher order intelligence it takes to create this film let a lone any film.
@Michel1234-n3t
@Michel1234-n3t 2 года назад
@@MadMax22 because Raul has essentially refuted op's analysis with absolutely ZERO hard data. Like, critisize the work, sure, but have something tangible in the effort. Don't just say "I couldn't disagree more because OBVIOUSLY blah blah blah." Give some insight, context or angle in the argument, not simply opinion. How about some hard data that we all might not have known before? No, just your opinion huh, just your passion based opinion huh. It's like, gee Thanks for wasting our time with that. As for you how about you give more insight on your critique? Explain to me how an object could represent ALL the horse shit you just said it could, and miss me with your hurt feelings. Come at me with facts and data, and things that can pass the eye test or Don't come at all comment section is not for the weak. We were forged in the fires of Twitter and molded in the cauldrons of Facebook troll posts bro.
@looknowtv
@looknowtv 7 лет назад
This is just amazing work!! Congrats!!
@ba6561
@ba6561 3 года назад
Bingo! Red hot
@somatotrophin1535
@somatotrophin1535 8 лет назад
The reason why Kubrick did not elaborate on the 'deeper level' is because there was not a deeper level. The book by Clarke explains it all.
@RatatRatR
@RatatRatR 4 года назад
No, it doesn't.
@houseofyezod8375
@houseofyezod8375 6 лет назад
I️ really enjoy your videos!
@johnmiguelking
@johnmiguelking 10 лет назад
Hi Rob, I was introduced to your work last night. I am honestly impressed by the depth of your analysis. However, and with all the respect due, I disagree with your interpretation. I think, mostly in the case of someone as brilliant and ahead of his time as Mr. Kubrick, that assigning one univocal meaning to such a complex symbol is not the right approach. I agree that on a first level of interpretation the idea of the monolith standing for the cinema screen is a brilliant one. I can also be persuaded that this is intentional on behalf of the master. Yet, to me, it is a cue to read the film at a deeper level, an invitation to pass this threshold of interpreation and step into one of free association where no meaning is completely wrong or right. As you point out in your analysis Kubrick's goal was (in every single one of his films?) to allow the audience to bring their interpretation and experiences to the cinematic event. Hence, to me, the monolith stands for the capacity of abstract thought, to our ability to imagine. Cinema is probably the ultimate manifestation of this ability of ours. The ape's first contact with the monolith says it all to me. Perfect forms do not exist in nature. The apes are confronted and lately interact with this unnatural object. As such, the object cannot be found anywhere in their symbolic system, it is outside it. By interacting with it the apes must therefore expand their symbolic system with that which is not "real". The interaction then leads the apes to the use of tools or, in other words, to the use of their imagination and abstract thought. This is Plato and his "universals". Kubrick, in my book, is asking the audience to free itself, and cinema!, from the stylistic shackles of the 19th century realist novel. Instead, he, much like Malick in his latest work, is saying that both our imaginations and cinema must be freed if we're ever to reach a higher state of understanding. Or, in other words, that creative thought is the complete opposite of reason and causality. It's quite interesting, I think, that he created Barry Lyndon so shortly after.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
John Miguel King Yes, the monolith as cinema screen isn't a be all end all interpretation. There's much more to it - hence the much deeper 14 chapter analysis on my site. But I would also say that those deeper levels are mostly inaccessible until the screen relationship has been noticed :)
@0zfer
@0zfer 8 лет назад
+Collative Learning IF he wanted us to think it was the screen, why not make the monolith on its side :l
@ACNC1
@ACNC1 8 лет назад
+0zfer maybe its meant to be both. A book when shown vertical or a screen when it's on its side.
@0zfer
@0zfer 8 лет назад
even if this was supposed to be a book, or screen, what does this add to the meaning? Nothing...
@Parzival224
@Parzival224 8 лет назад
+John Miguel King There must necessarly be an esoteric and symbolic interpretation of all the aspects of this movie; The Sun could rappresent the Spirit (self generating "light"), the Moon the Soul (psyche a reflection of the Spirit/Sun light) and the black monolith probably means the human reason and intelligence. The "conjunction" of the Sun and Moon on top of the monolith, thought being impossible in the real, occurs four times in human history: On primeval Earth giving man the first gift of reason to help those humans to get through the perils of life; The second one on Moon to the advanced humanity with a disturbing sound to gift them of the rational need of a spiritual search that will lead them to Jupiter where they find another monolith wich is the final answer to the mysterious human existence, and the final answer is a paradox, another monolith teaching humans that the end and the beginning are just one, like the serpent biting his own tail. Consider that Space thought being "infinite" is just nothingness, but a nothingness that contains Worlds and our existence is a paradox, how there can be something within nothing? this question is the final Monolith.
@hamptonbiltmore5339
@hamptonbiltmore5339 3 года назад
anyone here because of the Utah finding? 2020
@jackhughes9811
@jackhughes9811 3 года назад
Damn those rivets...
@thomasmcdaniel6264
@thomasmcdaniel6264 3 года назад
today, it is gone. Whoever did it to start conspiracy theories............GREAT JOB! I LOVE IT!!
@LATINHANDS65
@LATINHANDS65 3 года назад
Its gone.
@JF-eq1tm
@JF-eq1tm 3 года назад
I'm here for the third one found in California
@LATINHANDS65
@LATINHANDS65 3 года назад
@@JF-eq1tm There are 5 now
@Pimp-Master
@Pimp-Master 9 лет назад
Wow, your documentaries are well made visually.
@fredk6992
@fredk6992 4 года назад
In the novel, The Monolith has dimensions 11'x5'x1.25' (11'x5' without depth). This means that The Monolith has a length to width ratio of 2.2:1
@Defender78
@Defender78 2 года назад
basically the dimensions and appearance of a Samsung Galaxy smart phone!
@nandoflorestan
@nandoflorestan Год назад
But in the movie 2010, it is said that the proportions are 1 by 3 by 9 (powers of 3).
@lordmalal
@lordmalal 6 лет назад
So you think the “true” meaning of 2001 is something far less interesting and meaningful than the common interpretation? “It’s all just a movie”... wow no shit, really deep stuff.
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 4 года назад
Because there's nothing meaningful about the suggestion that big business and governments are using media as a tool to direct and control an unwitting Humanities cultural evolution
@jackmehoff9094
@jackmehoff9094 9 лет назад
I do love the symbol of the monolith as a movie screen. It reminds me of the holographic principle in physics
@21shamsham
@21shamsham 6 лет назад
Great vid, love your work
@quickattackfilms7923
@quickattackfilms7923 2 года назад
It freaked me out when you said it was supposed to be viewed on its side… and here I am staring at my phone on its side, same black rectangular prism.
@user-eh1no3yc5v
@user-eh1no3yc5v 6 лет назад
Learn about "PLATO'S CAVE". You don't realise the "prison" you live in, until you feel free.
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 4 года назад
Why would I want to go into some guys dirty cave? What kind of name is Plato anyways he sounds like a nerd
@se3d
@se3d 6 лет назад
The drinking glass changed to shatters when it broke down, and the astronaut understood that he was living in an abstract illusion, just like the ape realized the same when he started to dismantle the bones. The symbols we take granted without ever trying understand the deeper context are a jail for our way of thinking. Tilting the head/monolith 90 degrees is to change our perception of the world. The movie starts showing the planets in 90 degree angle, because in space there is no up or down, hence the planets can not be "wrong way" even if turned 90 or 180 degrees - somebody just decided that north is "up" and south is "down". It is a fascinating way to think that the planet could rotate the sun vertically and not horizontally, the whole horizontal rotation is just inside our head. At the end of the film in the astronaut's room, the monolith also stands takes a place where the door should logically be.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 2 года назад
yes its kubrick trying to tell you to look at things differently meaning the monolith and what the movie is really about.
@ImpartialDawn
@ImpartialDawn 10 лет назад
Damn, I never even thought that Kubrick was trying to convey space race propaganda through use of the monoliths when I watched your earlir 2001 videos, but it makes alot of sense now that Rob explains it. Keep up the quality content Rob; whether it's movie analysis, character analysis, video game analysis etc. I know it's gonna be interesting :)
@stoniecad7805
@stoniecad7805 6 лет назад
So what happened to Bowman? always wondered, also at some point does he realise he's in a movie? I know its up to my own interpretation but it always seemed like it with all the screen symbolism and how he's acting in the room.
@papersplease
@papersplease 10 лет назад
I've never done this before, so please allow me to indulge. *ahem* First.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 10 лет назад
Ha. You know I could really annoy everybody by getting in their with a first comment myself every time :)
@papersplease
@papersplease 10 лет назад
Collative Learning Most of the time (I believe) a blank comment is automatically generated by uploading a video to RU-vid. Probably some function of Google+. So technically you could!
@rwl1919
@rwl1919 10 лет назад
papersplease No Entry For Impor
@andrewhillis9544
@andrewhillis9544 9 лет назад
+Collative Learning Great detective work Sir! Is the ratio of the sides of the monolith also 16:9? My instinct is telling me that it is but I am interested to hear what you have to say about this?
9 лет назад
papersplease You have brought shame on your family.
@leona7522
@leona7522 7 лет назад
I like this interpretation.Infinite recursion as consciousness turns its eye upon itself.
@johnanglin4493
@johnanglin4493 6 лет назад
Love your ending to this. Stops my mind from wandering
@cybershadowX
@cybershadowX 6 лет назад
that scene with the monolith in space is so brilliant...
@FoxxPix
@FoxxPix 7 лет назад
Getting up out of your seat and going to touch the screen in a cinema is only going to get you yelled at and quite probably removed from the premises.
@UFO_computers
@UFO_computers 5 лет назад
Not if you think two dimensionally, as Stanley demonstrated in the last monolith scene.
@gregmcknight5183
@gregmcknight5183 9 лет назад
I recently saw this film and if there's one thing that I think really makes this thing special is just the series of debates sprawled from this movie. Like seriously reading these comments have been interesting seeing everyone's different theories. Movies that really get people talking that much about what meant what I think is cool.
@haneefs666
@haneefs666 3 года назад
They found a steel or something kinda monolith in uttah dessert or somewhere....!!
@Z20bEn53
@Z20bEn53 3 года назад
Wow. I've watched this movie maybe 100x in my life, and these are some mind-blowing interpretations. I never thought about the 90 degree angles and orientation of the monolith. Very clever. Don't know if I agree yet, but I appreciate the depth of the analysis.
@maxis2k
@maxis2k 6 лет назад
I don't really know what the controversy is. When I watched the movie, I came to a similar conclusion, that the monolith was a kind of symbolic mirror. Which can be interpreted in dozens of different ways. But that being said, I don't really think either your interpretation or mine is really the correct one. Kubrick left it open ended for that reason.
@NoName-tt5lb
@NoName-tt5lb 3 года назад
Everybody now here cause of utah monolith
@TooCool2Khan
@TooCool2Khan 2 года назад
Question, have you ever analyzed the 1977’ film “Saturday Night Fever” in the movie the club that they attend is called “2001 Odyssey” wondering if it’s any other unforeseen parallels in the film..
@JeremyNoblitt
@JeremyNoblitt 2 года назад
Now the monolith is in our pocket/hand.
@arnemyggen
@arnemyggen 6 лет назад
The screen metaphor is there alright and you've documented it very well. Kudos! I don't see a "true" meaning here though. More like a hidden layer or maybe even something as harmless as an easter egg. Problem is, that the simple level of the story as you call it, is too carefully thought out to simply dismiss it. It's a modern take on some of the greatest works of literature and philosophy out there so why would you turn it into a stab at IBM and a critique of budget spending on space ships? The story in itself is huge in scale while this additional layer is funny at best. It makes no sense IMO.
@TheBelaris
@TheBelaris 7 лет назад
I myself think that your theory is pretty thin and i have read all the novels - the monolith is a machine that seeks out the potential for a lifeform to evolve and be intelligent, if it determines you have little to no potential it ignores you or in the case of jupiter, that had lifeforms on it that it deemed to have very little chance of evolving past what they were, destroying them in favour of the Europan life forms. This is pointed out by Dave Bowman who does not agree with this philosophy as who gave them the right to decide who lives and who dies based on their point of view hence he and hal help Poole to destroy the monoliths at the end of 3001. It is also pointed out that the creators of the monolith trancended physical existence just after the monolith arrived on earth and then promptly forgot about them thus leaving the monoliths to continue to decide the fate of any life they find without any control or restraint. Kubrick picked the shape of the monolith not because it represented a cinema screen or such nonsense but he wanted to show the intelligence behind them in the simplest way - the square root of 1,2,3 = 1x4x9, using this the monolith could be as small or as large as you wanted it but still retain the same dimentions. I dont agree with your interpretation but i respect your opinion but it seems that anyone who contradicts your view is wrong full stop and that you dont respect theirs, you dont seem to be able to accept that you may be wrong, personally i didnt watch one of the best sci-fi movies ever made in order to make up a pretty stupid theory behind it - i watched it to enjoy it and for it to spark my imagination as to the films meaning, not kubricks, but mine, and that is why he is a brilliant film maker, i dont give a shit what kubrick meant by it or what hidden meaning he (supposedly) put into it.
@darkthorpocomicknight7891
@darkthorpocomicknight7891 4 года назад
LOL Both you guys are over-interpreting things. Kubrick actually did make ready aliens to be filmed but it was decided that they are not sophisticated enough and therefore not used. Really no big mystery but I do agree Rob is very dogmatic - he rarely if ever cites the literature on K which is now huge.
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 3 года назад
All I know is that the scene with the sun above the monolith and the moon above the sun has something to do with the mercury symbol
@dreamingforward
@dreamingforward 8 лет назад
You missed an interesting feature of the monolith: it's dimensions are 1 x 4 x 9 (feet it would appear) -- that's a sequential series of squares (perfect triple), 1^2, 2^2, 3^2.
@louisdollani9671
@louisdollani9671 3 года назад
*anyone here because of the monolith in Utah”comments incoming
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx 7 лет назад
Care to comment on the following? "Gerard Loughlin claimed in a 2003 book that the monolith is Kubrick's representation of the cinema screen itself: “it is a cinematic conceit, for turn the monolith on its side and one has the letterbox of the cinemascope screen, the blank rectangle on which the star-child appears, as does the entirety of Kubrick’s film."The internet-based film critic Rob Ager later produced a video essay also espousing this theory. The academic Dan Leberg complained that Ager had not credited Loughlin." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretations_of_2001:_A_Space_Odyssey#The_Monolith
@SyrusRiggs
@SyrusRiggs 6 лет назад
BINARYGOD E X P O S E D
@pauljackson2409
@pauljackson2409 6 лет назад
So basically not only is it a ridiculous theory, it's not even original.
@ReservoirPunk
@ReservoirPunk 5 лет назад
Lmao nope he didn't fancy commenting on that. Shocker.
@jamesmacleod9382
@jamesmacleod9382 2 года назад
Yikes
@12stringblues
@12stringblues 7 лет назад
Real Original Content..appreciate your interpretation it is very insightful. Thanks!
@samuelele
@samuelele 6 лет назад
Dude this is awesome!
@captainawesome830
@captainawesome830 9 лет назад
I always believed that the monolith represents the evolution of mankind and the consciousness of mankind. When the apes approach the monolith it allows them to evolve. Then when it appears on the moon it gives mankind a chance to evolve again if they can prove themselves worthy by traveling to Jupiter. After the whole HAL situation the main guy reaches the monolith which then allows him to evolve which is illustrated at the end of the movie as the creature seen in the last shot above the Earth.
@0zfer
@0zfer 8 лет назад
+strangetamer the machine fucked up on the way. Clearly the machine was not worthy...
@exertoins7084
@exertoins7084 8 лет назад
+Mike Honcho Of course, but this analysis is about a deeper meaning to the monolith. On the surface level, the monolith is indeed an evolutionary device.
@gregbaird7582
@gregbaird7582 6 лет назад
Turn your phone vertical, enjoy.
@UFO_computers
@UFO_computers 5 лет назад
There are 4 monoliths in the film. The first one is instructional, the second one on the moon is a guide, the monolith in Jupiter space is a transport, and the final monolith a creator. The moon monolith did NOT function as an “evolution” catalyst as the Jupiter mission was only 18 months after so we can assume the technology to travel that far pretty much already existed as well as the AI Hal 9000 series.
@UFO_computers
@UFO_computers 5 лет назад
frostek - Don’t confuse the 2010 narrative with Kubrick’s classic. 2010 had NOTHING to do with the story and ideas Kubrick was working with. Please watch again and notice HAL is actually a narcissist from the beginning with his boasts of having a perfect record and that the only explanation for his incorrect transmitter detection “must be due to human error.” That’s exactly what narcissists do: they claim or endeavour to be perfect and NEVER admit or take responsibility for a fault/error/mistake/ etc. They also sometimes kill when their lies or fabrications are exposed.
@CptOriginal
@CptOriginal 9 лет назад
so basically you point is that there is no point
@TheTimeRocket
@TheTimeRocket 4 месяца назад
"Coldness, darkness, obstruction, a Solid Without fluctuation, hard as adamant Black as marble of Egypt; impenetrable Bound in the fierce raging Immortal." -William Blake
@octaviovillarreal4922
@octaviovillarreal4922 8 лет назад
Your perspective and description of these films are both sharp and eloquent. Do American Psycho or Mulholand Drive!
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