2001 | Australia | Disqualification | Womens 4x200m Free | Graham McKenzie Thomas Rooney | 2 of 2 

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Shut the fuck up. God I hate reddit so fucking much.

god damn in that video the second guy gave all the credit to lloyd. but here the second team just hapilly took it 😂😂😂

That’s why I’m here hahaha

@@Glamwraith66 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

If I'm not mistaken, that would've also been an American record at the time. Still glad the US got their medals. My coach, Julie, brought that medal to practice and that was so cool.

Thanks for the extra info 👍

...but the Americans were also all drugged up.... @@Breezy-swims

Man. You are getting old now. Like me 🥲😭

....and that was 5 years ago. She;s WAY old now !!!!

how old will she be now?@@adambane1719

Me too but I remembered they were men 😅😅 ‘94❤

Japanese: We're not in medal contention...we're still not in medal contention....Bronze! Kampai!

+Henry Ng But they didn't jump in front of anyone. If you want a precise analogy: the winner celebrated to the side of the marathon route of the last placed runner and therefore got disqualified for disrespect even tho he didn't impede the last runner at all = COMPLETE BULLSHIT DECISION. There.

+Henry Ng He was just being a salty commentator who got upset because his home team didn't win.

+Henry Ng a good deal of sporting cultures agree that showboating and celebrating are not what sports are about and have rules to punish such clownish practices. If you want to celebrate your victory, do after the event is over. It's considered rude at the international level as the runners up deserve a minimum of respect because they generally beat the rest of the world to get there.

"The Greatest Debator in the World". Such irony. The rule is to actually not enter the swimming pool while the race is underway.

UK man loves goddesses but it’s part of the rules. The female commentator even called it out. It doesnt matter if any racer isnt in medal contention, its about showing respect and courtesy by allowing the event to finish before celebrating. = RIGHT DECISION

Yes, the intense celebrating of German team is bad sportsmanship, too. If you win, not because of your own abilities, but the mistakes of the other, you should take it and celebrate silently. However, disqualification is completely justified. The later arriving swimmers are probably exhausted and maybe also frustrated. Creating additional waves and splashes is not fair.

That's women for you, they have no cop on.

Please.

It’s now 20 years ago

Setting my timer for 7 years from now.

lol, now it was 23 years ago!!!!

Are you in a nursing home yet😂😂

You mean sweet. History only remembers the winners.

How come the US were disqualified?

+Alan Chong US ended up getting the silver medal.

no germany wins silver.

Aaron Augusto Perez Eugenio i think after a USA appeal they were also awarded a silver medal so the US and Germany were joint silver medalists

That’s the issue. They aren’t

@@ic3man Well everyone knows the rules now.

@@danielstapler4315 and they know they shouldn’t exist

I've run various sports events and tournaments and people use that excuse ALL the time. "Can we just forget it? That guy has no chance of winning anyway."

S11

Bless

Double standards? Idk this an embarrassing way for Great Britain to win, I doubt he'd ever want Australia to win due to a technicality.

1 second in fact.

That’s what brought me here!

@@genemadlon295 what did?

@@RachelXKnight666 Oh sorry, I apparently replied to the wrong comment. Somebody posted "This video is going to blow up again after the Owen Lloyd debacle." Which is indeed what brought me here.

Yes we know that rules are rules. What else would they be?

So it's not ignorance, just dumbness then. I think she's way more happier with ignorance prior.

Exactly. This is something anyone at even the high school level knows. Zero excuse for it.

just odd for it to happen at this level of competition

@@janeypowell7690 I believe the announcer mentioned that the male swimmers did the same thing in a previois race and that nothing happened. So it may be possible that these swimners were aware of it & thought it was ok.

Get off your high horse Karen

This rule is stupid as fuck.

+Andrew Ross They DID win their appeal, though you are right in that they got GOLD, not silver. www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/sports/plus-swimming-us-awarded-gold-after-its-appeal.html

+jboy55 In England, courts talk about the golden rule = the law must be interpreted literally UNLESS it would lead to some repugnance or absurdity or contradiction with the rest of the law. This is a gross injustice to those Australian ladies. It is repugnant. The overriding rules and spirit of the competition is that the winner = the best swimmers on the day = the Australians. This overriding rule has been violated by legalism.

+DasVERMiT That's been changed since. Now GB and the US both shared second spot. Germany got first. I don't know what that's about. I guess America had a leg to stand on if they could prove in the footage they didn't have an early changeover and that it was just poor judgement by the official- because changeover errors are split second things-whereas no one could argue Australia wasn't in the water before they finished.

jboy55 actually, you are wrong. I personally know one of the us relay members, Julie Hardt, and have held her gold medal in my own two hands.

@@DasVERMiT WOW didnt know what, thnx for the news

He’s such a tool, ignorant and a moron. Garbage swimming commentator - he once called a ‘world record’ for someone coming from breast into free on an IM. Complete incompetence.

Haha it's Ray Hadley my friend

why?

How is it ignorant?

It’s Ray Warren

Generally agreed but with a slight correction - in an interview later on (after things had calmed down a bit) Thomas said that one of the reporters wanted a photograph of them all in the water. This is quite okay - provided all the other competitors have completed the race. Unfortunately some of the other competitors were still swimming. Sadly, Thomas admitted that she didn't check to see that this was the case. It was not a case of arrogance or insensitivity although it might seem like that but more a case of thoughtlessness which was unusual given that Thomas and a couple of the others were seasoned campaigners.

Understanding the rules of the competition are as important and sometimes more important than raw performance. I don't agree with the ruling but I'm ok with the Brits celebrating.

They just became world champions. And almost beat the world record. So a mental state of jubilation occurred. Common sense should have prevailed.

I thought they were robbed but didn’t realize they jumped in before the race was over. Too bad.

Thank you for saying that. I was an American visiting Uluru when we saw this happen on the campsite TV. I gasped as soon as the Aussies jumped in the water, knowing what the outcome would be. Every young swimmer learns to respect the rules. Even one false start can DQ you.

I think the judges and committees do everything in their power to make swimming the most boring sport

US wasn't DQ'd for that. They were DQ'd for a racer jumping in too soon on a change. In effect, a false start.

Coz nobody liked them😂

It's called Karma and you're just a pissy bitch

There is a sensor on the platform where the next swimmer jumps in from, and also on the wall where the current swimmer touches. The person jumping in left the platform before the current swimmer touched the wall. The timers time down to the millisecond (officially to the hundredth) If you look at it, the person on the platform to be quick has to start jumping in before the other swimmer actually touches the wall. You try to time it to be efficient (normal reaction time is roughly a tenth of a second). The next swimmer broke probably 2 or 3 thousandths of a second too early, and those relay switches are very important to having a good time. There are specifications for the sensors as well, as in they have to register so much force before they trigger. That eliminates are questions about faulty equipment, or a wave being mistaken for a touch. That reason also plays into the Aussie DQ, jumping in changes the conditions for the people still racing, so you're not allowed to jump in until all competitors are finished

The latter because, well, they celebrate a tad bit too soon before all swimmers finished.

RachelXKnight666 well that’s what they get for disrespecting the other team members by swimming in the pool while the race was still going. The other team celebrated after the race not during so...🤷‍♀️

We atleast, that is the RIGHT WAY to celebrate. I think there is nothing wrong with that. Besides, the disqualified team deserves it, it will be like a slam to their faces for disrespecting the swimming sport. I love this sport, so I am really disgusted to those swimmer who doesnt even know the basic rules.

Yeah it's an unspoken rule in sports to show restraint when you win by injury/disqualification. Turns out Japan only medalled because of a faulty touchpad.

+Alex A.A. Yeah but unfortunately it's an official rule that professional swimmers should know.

+Alex A.A. If they didn't enforce the rules it would set a poor precedent.

I understand that but come on there are times where common sense is needed

+Alex A.A. And that means following the rules.

+Alex A.A. All the well-mannered people care.

I wouldn't think you were conflicted, just doubly disappointed.

I know this is 11 years late, but breaking simply means entering the pool before you're allowed to. This often happens on a changeover between swimmers, especially when the replacing swimmer mistimes the dive.

+Edward Wong When the next swimmer starts their leg before the person before them touches the wall at the end of their leg.