As a child of the 80's and early 90's, 2002 was a major leap in graphics. I had just finished playing Halo CE on all difficulties and Medal of Honor Frontline was going to be released soon, which was also an incredible feat in graphical achievement. I miss those days a lot, because back then game developers released games on launch day that were 100% complete without a need for patches or updates. Nowadays it seems that substandard and broken games are released all the time, because the devs know they can be fixed over time even though they launched it in an unplayable state.
Yes attitude is definitely a factor but some games also aim to accomplish much more than games did back then. This can be observed by comparing 2000 games to the first games created. Mortal Kombat turned into a weird story and multiple game mode experience, when it was originally just two ugly sprites fighting.
I doubt that. There is a sort of bowl curve to prices of tech and age. Especially if rarity of a functioning piece of tech is high. And with how power hungry the 4090 is and with how much heat it genrates, I think in 2065 it will be pretty rare to find a working 4090.
Meh not really. It's gotten faster with more capacity, but but the way computers work hasn't really changed much in the last 30 years. I started building computers as a kid in 2002 and I could hand a pile of modern components to that 15 year old and he would know how to build it without much trouble.
This is a state of the art compared to my PC assembled in 2001: Socket 370 celeron 400mhz with 64mb RAM 10gb HDD and 52x CD-ROM Nvidia riva tnt2 lol I upgraded it with GeForce 4 MX400 and 512mb ram and that felt very cool. My first computer was 386dx that did not even run Windows 3.11 and had 5.25'' floppy drive. I'm not even that old.
I still remember these times, I wasn't into gaming because I was dirt poor back then (still am, tho), the first "gaming" setup I could afford was a pentium celeron 1.8 GHz with 256 MB of DDR RAM (which I eventually upgraded to 768 MB) 40 GB HDD and a Nvidia Geforce MX4000. This was back in 2005, when Dual Core CPUs where already in the market, my PC really sucked. My current PC is a 3770 non-k with 8GB of RAM and no dedicated GPU, the only game I play is CS:GO at 800x600 with everything set at minimum, I barely reach 30 FPS.
I had a very similar config in 2002 except my CPU was the 2.4ghz model and my GPU was a Geforce 4 MX440 on an ASUS P4B. My 2.4ghz P4 overclocked to 3.6ghz stable and earned me some major bragging rights on various overclocking forums at the time. Hard to believe that was 20 years ago now.
A 3.6GHz processor and an MX440 64-bit floating graphics card? Quite the imbalance. That would be like having a 12900K and an RTX 2060. I remember the race back in those days. Intel vs AMD. Intel bragged about cache and clock frequency. AMD often beat every Intel in gaming with a fraction of the frequency because of their architecture. They used MASSIVE front-side busses and proprietary instruction handling. SSE3 and 3DNow! , etc. The P4 2.66 was pitted against the Athlon XP 3100+ which only ran at 2.2GHz. The P4 2.66 could easily hit 3.2GHz in OC and AMD was not much affected by clock frequency OCs. They relied on instruction handling and bus bandwidth. The 3100+ pulled ahead of the OC's P4 2.66 pretty easily. Intel fanboys HATED AMD users in those days. But eventually boys grow up into men and realize it isn't a competition against eachother. It is a competition between the manufacturers for your business. LoL!!
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 The 440 is what it was built with, by the time I overclocked it to 3.6ghz I had a Radeon 9700XT in it, hence the overclock. Overclocking back then was less to do with needing the performance and more to do with competing on various boards/forums. I have been overclocking since the early 90s though, always enjoyed getting more value for my money than was intended. That northwood was a gem, I wish I had kept it, that and my 300a celeron. Ah well.
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 typical AMD fanboi, pretending AMD was actually dominant after 2001 when they made their last good CPU, the thunderbird. after that they literally just copied everything intel did and produced low clock rate garbage CPUs that could only compare with intels budget lines.
2002. The year I bought my very first PC. I cannot remember absolutely all the details.. but I think I bought and AMD Athlon 64, a GeForce MX440 and 128 MB of RAM. The details of all are a bit muddy. It was a mid range PC then, but served its purpose splendidly. I for most part played Anarchy Online at the time. Something I remember very fondly to this day. Out of everything I bought then I still have the Big Tower case. A Chieftek. Its just the case now, but I cannot bear the thought of throwing it away and I still have it in my office.
I still have my gaming PC from early 2000's. At the time I never knew how to build , so I always bought / upgraded at a local computer store. I wish I had the knowledge I have now, to build a pc. Could have saved and built a better computer back in the day.
same thing with my first computer in 1994. could have bought a pentium 100, but bought a 486 dx4 100 instead to save a few bucks because i thought the seller was trying to scam my mom. he was just being really, really helpful and i chose to go against his goodwill D:. dumb 8yo self. the pentium was over twice as fast for 10% more money.
bruh i was born that year. Crazy because i built my first gaming pc in 2022 that im still currently using. I got a Ryzen 7 5700x, rtx 3060ti, 32gb ram, 1 1tb and 1 2tb ssd m.2, b550 wifi plus 2 motherboard, and AIO so seeing these parts and their specs amazes me. I get mad when i cant play a game on ultra settings at a steady 60fps on 1440p.
That IDE to sata adapter only supports a single drive, ... meaning that is a bi-directional adapter hence the two sata ports,.... they're not supposed to be plugged in simultaneously as the upper port is for sata to IDE, and the bottom is IDE to sata.
LegoMan , you are correct sir. Thank you for calling it an IDE. When he said ATA (Adda) it sent chills up my spine. Although they were ATA-100 and ATA-133 connections, they were known as IDE or ATAPI. I really HATE being THAT guy. But I expect perfection when referring to history. And I am an absolutely NERD for computers. I can remember every computer build I ever did since the 80s. I remember every specs of every conputer I ever bought back to the 70s.
Oh yes... I remember those Asus motherboards with SYS chipset. They were a pretty solid mid range option, but I didn't like them at that moment due to the poor performance of some SYS based PC-Chips motherboards. Maybe the only exception was the ones for AMD (M810 familiy). Thank you so much for sharing this video with us! Cheers from Argentina!
I still have the computer I used to have as a kid. It's from 2007 but has been slightly upgraded ever since. Intel Core 2 Duo to Intel Core 2 Quad 2GB DRR2 to 8GB DDR2 Integrated Graphics to R5 340X 2GB 500GB Harddrive to 256GB SSD It was only $50 to upgrade it and make it x10 faster so it was worth it
i have a computer from that era right here at the floor of my computer room. it's also a q6600, with some 4gbs of ram and idk if it even has a gpu anymore. it's been there for 5 years and i've never touched it in this whole time. it was my pc back then, but i gave it to my sister and then asked for it back when she was done with it. [edit] just checked, it has no gpu in it. also the CPU cooler somehow fell off the bracket in this meantime D: dangerous! maybe i should put my backup gt1030 in there and fire it up to see what's up.
@@GraveUypo that's nice. Also I wonder how the CPU cooler fell off haha. and yeah you should definitely put your gt 1030 and play some old games and classic games. I gave it to my younegr sister so she can play roblox and Minecraft but sometimes I play on it too like some old games I used to play as a kid like GTA San andreas.
The CPU and ram might hold you back tho, because mines had the Q8400 and it struggles sometimes depending on the game. Mines has 8GB ram ddr2 which is enough for the games my sister plays on it.
yo bro you should get a lga 771 xeon for it if its not a prebuilt they are like the core 2 eras i7s you can get basically q9650 with hyperthreading for like 3$ with xeons
I had a similar PC to this in 2002, I remember it ran Half Life and CS 1.5 very smoothly. Still probably not constant 100 fps though.......at least by 1.6 was released.
You know, had I known that you guys were gonna go down this path, I would've gladly sent you my old school Geforce 6600 which is just sitting in storage collecting dust.
For anybody build your dream pc when you was a kid, then install any game you like when u was a kid, get yourself as high as possible then every game will be as good.
When last time I discussed with my late father how to upgrade my custom built PC, we talked about Pentium 4 vs Pentium D, also the compatibility cautions with AGP ports and PCI-e ports. This was probably mostly to play Half-Life 2 and CS:Source. I did went to a computer shop with him again a few years later to buy another factory build PC with a GForce 900 series card. Good ole days.
I remember when I couldn't play the newest games because my graphics card wasn't good enough, and I couldn't get a newer one because my motherboard didn't even have an AGP slot.
@@mushieslushie I was poor when I was small. So my father and I could only upgrade my rig every 5 years or so. When we tried to buy a new GPU, the motherboard was not compatible so we needed to a new one. Then the old RAMs were not compatible with the new motherboard so we had to get new RAMs. Then we didn't have enough power to supply to the new board/RAMs/GPU so we had to get new PSU. That's why in the end we gave up building PC after upgrading 3 or 4 times upgrades since every time felt like we buying every single component new, ended up spending just as much as we would have buying pre-build.
From what I remember, on these era of boards with 3 RAM slots, the third slot is only for single-sided DDR1 modules, hence the stability issues. Usually they were 128MB or 256MB. Larger ones are very hard to find so having 3GB is almost impossible to achieve. Even though you used a single sided one I’m not sure why there was issues still. Maybe it’s very fussy too, who knows?
In 2002 the flagship card was ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, which outperformed everything on the market. It's also cheaper these days than the Geforce 4 Ti 4600 from Nvidia.
Back in 2004 I bought the same GPU to play demanding games like Far Сry and from what I remember it handled pretty well, even though I didn't have Pentium 4. I believe I had Athlon 64, but I do not remember the model number. Oblivion was like a slide show, my PC couldn't handle it well enough, especially in the cities, so I have to play it on medium-low settings. I think the issue was not only with my 6600, but also with CPU, since my friends got better performance with Pentium 4.
I made myself a new rig at the tail end of 2002 and it was pretty sweet. Duron 950 with a Radeon 9500 Pro. I originally had a Shuttle brand mobo but it died, so I replaced it with an FIC AN19E. I also eventually upgraded to an Athlon XP 2600+. I loved playing new games and maxing out my old games.
I built a VERY similar pc, but it was in 04 after the parts got a bit cheaper ;) it still was a beast! I played a lot of sim city 4 on it lol. And of course it had 15gb and 6GB spinning hard drives through that lovely mess of IDE cables ;)
Awesome video I always love to see old tech stuff like this because my first pc was from 2004 and the nostalgia kicks in Keep going, this content is fantastic
i have buy my first gaming pc in 2005 its the first dell dimention 9200 Xps 4go ram + Nvidia 550 Ti 1go and its alive again today . but i use new pc costum made max power for DcS game . Dcs is the most winner game to test gaming pc
F.E.A.R was released 3 years after the Ti 4200. Of course it didn't perform well. By the time F.E.A.R released it was optimized for the 6000 series. The 6800 was the best card at that time. Btw I strongly believe your Ti 4200 was the 4x AGP edition. I had the Ti 4200 8x AGP edition and I overclocked thw core to 300 MHz and the memory clock to 325 MHz and it was stable with the ORB II cooler kit. What that means is that my Ti 4200 was the exact same performance and specs as a Ti 4800. (Which the 4200s were known to do easily). I miss those days.
2002/2003 I have an AMD Athlon XP 2500+ @ 3200+, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB (Hercules), 512MB DDR (2003 update to 2GB). At this time I can play all games with full settigs. With DX9 the Radeons 9 series make a much better Image as Nvidia 4 series.
Jesus huge memories! Had the same board but with the 3.0ghz model and the 9700pro. Jesus huge flash back to my first PC build I ever did. Can't forget the antec cases with the color matching cd-rom drive that was a 52x....
My dad bought a similarly spec'd PC back in 2003, I think it was. It had an AMD Athlon X2 and an ATi Radeon 9600, was a beast back then. I think I still have that computer lying around somewhere, as he gave it to me in 2010 after he replaced it.
Ya, around this time was just a bit before I stopped building my own PCs-too much time researching components compared to just using them-so this hits some memories.
I got something similar in 2004. I think the biggest upgrade in performance I'd ever had up until then was multi core cpus. The next cpu I got was a pentium D.
ATI had better drivers when it came to LCD and HD resolutions, never had any issue with them, Nvidia many cards had a limit of 1600x1200 via DVI on the drivers or both the drivers and the card, it's mostly the FX5xxx line and older.
@@ppmguire I had an FX5200 that could do 1080p but it died, never managed to find another that could and now the prices of the old cards are too high to experiment. In the end I got a X1600 Pro that works fine, it's also my last working card, AGP cards are on their last years, the RAM chips are going bad and the high heat generated and the bad coolers and dried thermal paste made it worse to find working cards.
@@farben_ My next card after the 4200 was the FX 5600 Ultra, even highly overclocked it struggled to push 1280x1024. These days my only FX card is a 5700 ZT and under water it does great but it's starved for memory bandwidth.
Creditability for this video went down the tube when he did not choose a radeon 9700 pro as the gpu. With there was no competition back then, 9700 pro was truly top dog by leaps and bounds.
For me in 2002, it was my ECS K7S5A, Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB Samsung PC2700, and ATi Radeon 8500 LE 128MB. I chose ATi at the time, as it had a significant performance lead over the GeForce3 at the time.
In 2002 I had a P4 1.6GHz, 256MB RAM and a GeForce 2 MX (I think it was a GF2 MX 400, I didn't remember anymore). In 2004 I got a P4 2.8GHz HT (northwood), 1GB RAM (2x 512) and Radeon 9800PRO 128MB with an Asus motherboard with SIS chipset (P4S800-MX), that motherboard didn't have Dual channel memory support... That motherboard died 1,5 year later so I bought an Asus P4S800D-X with dual channel support and that improved the performance considerably!!
Some where around that timeframe I had a 2500+ OC'd to like 3500+. As a cooler I used a modified VW Golf warltercooler and a 10l water bucket. I didn't even have a fan. Car coolers have so much power, it is ridiculous. But they are also big and can't fit in a case.
Hello, new subscriber here. Your kind of content is incredibly interesting! I only just got into PC gaming in 2016 so it's fascinating seeing the hardware of old.
What's the SSD adapter? Been looking for one too. I've had this mobo, well it was the AMD version but I didn't like it as the athlon xp 3200+ didn't support SSE2 instructions.
At the time I remember I had a athlon 2000+ which were preferably over intel CPU’s for a better value … Also I had a GeForce ti 4600 , that’s all I remember … everything ordered from Newegg
need more like this for writing do over type stories now go older there is literly no resources if im trying to write a story and need to no what was the best money could by in 1993 for example
2002 I was running an AMD XP2800+ (Barton) , 2GB DDR ram, Gainward Golden sample ti4200 128mb card later upgraded to a surprisingly quick ATI 9500pro 128mb. Good times back then for sure.
If this was a Pentium II cpu, it would be even more valuable. The pins are made of solid gold, refurbishers make a LOT of money on selling gold from old P2 cpu's.
I had a very similar specced machine - 2.4 ghz Northwood core P4, 512mb DDR333, and a 128mb Ti 4200. Could play GTA3/VC/SA like a champ. Doom 3 Alpha dropped and it was obviously time to upgrade, but I ran that bad boy into the ground!
Where i lived on this time the "Go to" Lan house Pc game was athlon or duron processor with a TNT 2 or a geforce 2mx400 as a graphic card, some even had a voodoo graphic cards.
i don't know how many of those processors are left but i currently own 2 of them which i got from scrap yard .. and kept it as collectables. idk if they work but its nice to know they were the kings back in the day.
That year I got an Athlon XP 1800+ oc'd to XP 2200+ status, and a GeForce4 T i4400, and like 512mb ram, I felt I had the best comptuer in my city as back then no one was gaming on pc
Very nice build. It's nice to see other people treasuring these pieces of history. I hope to have the chances to upgrade my Retró with a Radeon 9200 someday but until then I'll enjoy my fx5500😏
