2007 Grand Final third day WarCraft III Math: Grubby vs Sky; R2 

I often use lumber mills for tech and expansions instead of towers..

T! is kinda even, maybe leaning to orc a bit as grunt>footies T2 favors orc, soul link, raider (snare), kodo, bm+sh T3 almost always favors HM as gryphs tear OC a new hole

little tip in generall: when recording warcraft reps for uploading: raise the gamma value ingame so the videos arent this dark, it is very hhard to make out units expecially if one isnt very firm in the game.

@RH192 your ment to sit a catapult in the back of your base and have one or two towers up front so they have to make there towers distance away from yours orc towers have more range than human towers

@risenwarfare Read my comment again. I said the advantage leans to human, not orc.

it may seem that way because they are commentating the game for a broader audience thus explaining things simple and leaving out the complicated theory crafting.

@warilban I don't see how T1 leans to orc. One Grunt can kill one Footman, but Footmen ALWAYS outnumber Grunts as they are much cheaper and much faster to make than Grunts. In fact, human can kill orc in T1 in certain maps because level 3 Archmage, level 2 Water Elementals, Footmen, and Militia can quickly overwhelm the orc base. Orc, however, can NEVER kill human in T1 (given that neither player is noob) no matter what the map is...

actually why sky wins becuz grubby makes AIR units, human's air units owns orc's, so grubby so should make Spirit walker and shaman and raiders, grunts only, shaman = bloodlust, much more damage, btw GG :)

@ihateuutube nope, grubby's weakness is rush... which is technically the orc's weakness. BMs is not that bad. i mean heroes were used base on the gaming style of the player, not to counter opponent's heroes.

@thiagoa88 wait, so the guy who beat, in your opinion, the best player is a noob?

@pizzamoviefan2 means, u think sky is tower noob anyway. if u saw game 1.

BladeMaster harrass can be the key

@BlueDragonWings8888 it doesnt lean towards orc orcs human are imba against orc no matter what tier you just need luck in items and pray for the human to make alot of mistakes

Sky is so strong. He's really impressive.

wtf is the box art ? ?

since then this is called sky push....tier2 tower rush with mk and am

Humans and undeads are a way too OP... I don't know... I just sense it.

his name is smegal? lol

I love sky !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of them may have played against an easy bot, and for the other one - I will be suprised if he have even seen the box art.

sky is in the sky on this gaME GHAAGAGAga

the idea behind Warcraft is that you have to avoid battle. In reality, there is only really around 2 battles/ clash in warcraft, the rest are just harrassments.

yeah even me, i know more than the commentator and im not an expert....

It's still too hard for orc to win even with BM harrass. Pretty sad huh? I made that comment two years ago and the imbalance between the two races still exists today -.-

@ihateuutube dude mk bash/bolt counters the bm he cant crit if hes stunned and focus fired hell have to back of

fucking bm is always killing my archmage the bm at lv1 should be nerft

well sky beat grubby so he must be noob too

these commentaries dont even know what they hell they talkin about. they dont play wc3 seriously, or not enough

sky is noob grubby the best wc3 player ever

@ihateuutube He's not alot better. Grubby is far greater at the moment. Grubby was not on good form in these games in 2007.

BM is worst hero ever. Totally imba, no skill, just critical everything. Good thing Sky is so much better than Grubby.

worst image i ever seen