Welcome aboard, today we will travel to 2nd street from 1st street. The stations we will stop at is 1st Street, 1st Avenue, 1st Road, 1st Blvd, before reaching 2nd street. Each station is 10 feet apart and we will be going at a pace slower than a snail, enjoy the ride.
Jonathan Chen when it’s in the loop (downtown area) it goes slower because of density and there’s about 6 different subway lines that branch out from this area. They go slow to not crash or drive off.Once it leaves the city, then the stations space out and it goes really fast through the suburbs.
the stations are close together because this is the "loop" downtown area, more frequent stops here is much more convenient for commuters especially during winter
Many people travel into the "Loop" on a daily basis to work. Considering Chicago's cold winters,it's an added convenience not to have to walk long distances after disembarking from the train to get to your office. I'd say it's a very thoughtful system.
This section is "The Loop". It does make some sense, trains loop through this area as they cycle back and forth between different areas of Chicago. Once they are outside this loop the speed increases considerably. There was some talk of adding a new, underground, loop, but as far as I'm aware planning has stalled.
It should be noted that out of Chicago's 8 metro lines, 2 have their own deticated tunnels through downtown, 1 line only seres 2-3 stops in the northern suburbs, and 1 line only travels downtown through the loop during rush hour and possibly Cubs games.
Yeah, there's 2 subway lines that run in the middle of the Loop under State and Dearborn streets. State/Lake and Library-State/Van Buren Loop L stations are very close to the Lake and Jackson subway stations and serve as transfer points. Clark/Lake is a super-station, opened in 1992, which allows free direct transfers between the Dearborn subway and the Loop L platforms. The station's 2 entrances are also inside 2 buildings, the James R. Thompson Center and 203 N. LaSalle
That’s basically what the loop is, locals with their Ventra Cards will use it go a couple blocks when it’s blistering cold outside. Outside of downtown the trains go 55mph with stations being much farther apart. Also there are two subway lines that go underneath the loop for faster transit
@502 Downtowner With the closure of Madison and Randolph/Wabash stations, and replacement with Washington/Wabash, each side now has 2 stations. A single station would be quite inefficient, as everyone would have to funnel into a single station.
This is the brown line. It is the slowest but I also consider this one a leisure line to take for the best city views. The red line is a different story.
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“Next stop... never mind we are here. “You can literally get off run to next stop and get back on the same train.
@Mario Of course, you and Rog5446 are right. It is antiquated and noisy and inefficient. Not being a Chicagoan and only an infrequent visitor, I really am not defending the decades old decision not to do anything. Not to mention the thousands of poor souls who live along the El tracks, in some cases close enough to brush the trains as they pass. It is not surpising though. City residents often put up with unpleasantness in public transport. I know that in Philadelphia, where I grew up, the subway/elevated system was old and stillborn for decades. Cheers!
Wtf!! Train going slower than molasses. Train station every 100 feet. So many trains. Train intersections over 9000. How do people in Chicago even get to their destinations on time.
It's downtown. It's where most people either begin or end their ride. Why would trains go fast here? Go to the 11:00 mark in the video. See those I-beams running horizontally along the outer curve of the track, like guardrails? Those were installed in 1977, after one train rear-ended another at that curve and knocked four cars to the street below. Eleven people were killed. You don't want speed here.
Laughing Gravy I feel dumb. I just checked out the other lines in the CTA and apparently it's just this particular section. One can really be fooled as I was.
Wow, closest thing to catching a train in the clouds, I can't get over how close the stations are, it more resembles the Melbourne Aus tram network than our trains - thanks for posting.
Most people don't realize the Chicago transit authority is actually a county wide system. With links to regional and nation wide rail as well via Metra and amtrak
I have lived in Chicago my entire life and take the train everyday. For those of you saying that the train is super slow, it is only like this in the downtown loop area. It can be very congested so the trains have to drive slow so they will not run into each other. Its all about following safety measures. Also, people who go downtown take the train from surrounding neighborhoods so they want to get off a specific stop, that’s why there are so many stations. People don’t take the train just to go two stops. They just walk.
That´s interesting. There´s so much critics about the speed and the stations that are, i suppose historically, very near to each other, Must have bin something like sience fiction anyway to the people, in the times, the elevated train was built.
For those complaining and saying their country’s trains are “better” take a look at the whole map of the CTA train lines, then come back. It’s only slow in the Loop. People come here to transfer between different lines since there’s no other place in the city that all the train lines come together. Once a train leaves the loop, the stations are more separated and the trains travel much faster. Educate yourselves before talking shit, especially if you never even been to Chicago
It's still a metro. The Brown Line is 18.35 km long. Some of the other lines are longer. The Loop is unusual, though, because most of the system comes together and the stations are numerous. It was a way of bringing together competing railways in the late 19th century.
Here no less than 5 separate lines converge and circle the landmark Chicago Loop structure before branching off to different areas of the city, entering and leaving the Loop at different points - a very complicated operation. It is only in this densely populated central business and theater district (less than 1 sq mile) that the trains move slowly with stations close together. Elsewhere in the CTA system average speed between stops is 55 mph (88 kph) with stations .5 to 1 mile apart.
Хорошо, что хоть не похоронили эту систему, нашли решение развязок в центре!!! Чтобы понять, что это за хуета, пришлось досмотреть до конца и прочесть кучу комментариев...
SLIMANE SEBAI this is part of the system called the loop. It is the ends of certain lines, and is at the center of downtown. It is there for people the get on and off or transfer (usually little walking distance needed if you are a pedestrian in the loop). It’s not really for transportation within the loop. But in the loop, stations are near each other, there is a lot of traffic, and the turns are very sharp, so trains run very slowly in the loop. Outside the loop, they can go a lot faster. There’s the red line subway which is underground and bypasses the loop.
Love the announcements - Almost sounds British - Adds a bit of class to a fascinating rail system. Thanks for posting and greetings from the South Coast of England 🇬🇧
I LOVE Chicago's L trains, so much character, yet so efficient! Yeah, stops are frequent downtown but the density and the number of people working make that necessary, it's similar in Lower Manhattan.
I cannot see how having stations that close together is beneficial at all. Spacing the stations further apart allows for better travel time, and if having them that close together saves you 2 mins of walking, it is costing you 10s of minutes in waiting at all the stations along the route. Density impacts station spacing for sure but there's a limit at which it's so disadvantageous that you should really space them a bit further. Edit: On further reading I see they did indeed close a lot of the bunched up stations, which doesn't surprise me at all.
Efficient?! Motherfuckers can't walk one goddamn block? Here's some math for you: Cart length: approx 120 m. Stop time at one station: approx 20 s. Length between stop. approx 150 meters. Total travel time from stop to stop: Approx 80 seconds Total distance: 270 m Travel Time: 80 seconds Speed: 3.375 m/s Or 11.07 feet/s That is extremely slow.
A very nice video, although it does mislead one to think that trains are slow and stations are closer together. I like the unique character of the L, elevated trains over the street. It is not how it would probably be made today, but it adds a unique charm to the city.
ohbobpleez cool right? Have you ever seen a drawbridge like what's seen just at the beginning of the video? I've never seen a railroad drawbridge designed this way. (It's double decker, has vehicle traffic below it.)
there's 2 drawbridges actually! They are both active too and rise up during the Spring and Fall when Sailboats need to enter the Lake or leave the lake. It's a site to see! Other than that, most of the city's railway drawbridges are tower kind that rise up and down.
There’s a 90 degree crossing in Switzerland between the regular 1435mm track and a 1000mm narrow gauge line. The overhead-line construction is pretty interesting ;)
I knew there had to be a bunch of break offs...cause when I was in Chicago...those things haul ass and go EVERYWHERE! And everyone calls it "The El". Why....idk cause El means The in Spanish. I'm gonna take "The The." Bye guys
The loop is really for people to get on and off and transfer, not really for transportation within the loop. The loop also has very busy intersections and sharp turns so trains move slowly on the loop.
And that's what people do. You don't ride from station to station in the Loop. These stations are for dropping off commuters coming into the city and picking up others who are going back home.
If you're going from one station to the next, sure. But people don't do that. They ride in on one line, get off somewhere, and then catch the train on the line they need. This Loop area is where you can switch from one line to just about any other.
@@carlvogt6162 42% of the population in France is considered obese, you guys aren't skinny anymore and haven't been for a while. Stones and glass houses.
A beautiful railway. Amazing how they forced the engineering to fit. In many respects (track geometry, components, station spacing) it's like a multiple-unit tram or LRV in the sky. The apparently short signalling overlaps (between the interlocking home signals and flanking moves), as from around 1:00, are a little bit terrifying though from a mainline signalling perspective. Hopefully they have good ATP/ ATC
The engineering is so bad ! Who the hell made this weird metro ? this is so useless to have station every 50 meters and to do a trip slower than by walkinh, wtf... That's normal that nobody wants to take common transport rather than their car...
I was born and raised in New York City and I've been on every single train in NYC, but our train system isn't as intricate or serpentine like this in Chicago. I watched this video 3 times, it is so fascinating.
Can’t imagine how small and conjoined the looped track is on the CTA rail in mainland Chicago. It’s stations are next to each other so close, it’s like you have arrived almost immediately. Although with good respect it provides good transit transfers on other CTA lines or Metra/Amtrak trains you wish to travel abroad.
This is where all the train lines come together so people get on and off here to transfer between lines. Reason why it’s so slow is because of tight corners, once the train leaves downtown, it branches out and picks up speed again. Educate yourself
Those are the tightest turns ive ever seen on a railroad track. There are also the smallest distance between stations on the line and its also the slowest metro system ive seen. Overall this was a strange thing to witness
All aboard the inefficiency express, with stops at First street, the sidewalk adjacent to First street, the Hotdog cart 50 feet away from First street, the tree next to the Hotdog cart, a store window, a bus stop, another store window, the sidewalk adjacent to Second street, Second street, the sidewalk on the other side of Second street...
,🤣🤣🤣🤣 NO SHIT! What a joke of a transportation system. You wanta climb a flight of 50 stairs to go around the block.....come on . ....it only takes 30 minutes!
Snewo Productions over 750,000 people ride the L everyday. So there kind of is a point of having it there. It doesn't just serve the city of Chicago it serves most of the metro area
@Mario I would really like to experience this, it looks a great way to see the city. I asume the trains arrive from the suburbs before they trundle round this maytrix of lines. So at least people can get to where they need to be. I'll hold off on buying my ticket for now, i haven't worked out which way i'm going yet!!! lol.....
People, shut up about the proximity of the stations and speed, and just appreciate how dope this journey is aesthetically. Seriously, I could just watch this all day.
Im from NYC and ride the subways here but Ive also rode the CTA around the downtown loop. And the Chicago trains are fast and clean and efficient. Most of the ride is not like this its only downtown where several lines converge. I loved the Chicago trains!!
I never expected so many negative comments. My other popular videos are in the similar situations. I feel sorry for those who love and seek negative-looking videos.
Would be cool (although very expensive) to live in a building right above the tracks and/or above a station (10:15). I think all the sounds and screechings of the trains are very calming!
The stations seem to be very close to each other. Subway in Berlin, Germany goes 70 km/h (45mph) and there is usually like 800 meters (½ mi) between the stations
Most stations are 1/2 mile to a mile apart from each other. The Loop is an exception because it's the most busiest part of the city and most of the platforms are not large enough to accommodate for so many people. The Loop is provides service to 5 Lines. Back then, there used to be 10 stations in the Loop, today it is only 8. Besides we do have subways as well, and the world record for the world's longest Subway platform.
The structure is 125 years old. you don't want to go fast over it. Also most lines don't go from Point A to Point B. the start at one station go down into the loop, loop back and go back to the same station. The Loop is probably the Nation's most complicated railway in service. Also 450,000 people use the L every day. So the system works. I find the CTA system fascinating.
It's funny how pretty much none of these comments actually understand this train system. It's the Central Business District, which is why the stops are so close, during rush hour. 4 different train lines which go miles and miles into the city to meet up here and turn around, which is why its so crowded. This section is where people get on to go to and from the business district to their homes miles away. When it's not the busy period, the trains move a lot faster through this section. Also, these train lines are over 130 years old, so its expensive as hell to move the tracks and reroute them. It's actually pretty efficient for what they have to work with.
No, we all understand how train systems work. Other metro systems around the world also bring people into business districts from the outskirts, but that doesn't mean the trains have to crawl along like a slug.
Thank you for publishing your video, it's always interesting to see how other mass transport systems work. Something different to the double deck train nerwork that I'm used to in Sydney, Australia.
Am I honestly the only one who's looking out for Elwood's place while singing "Sweet Home Chicago"? "How often does the train go by?" "so often, you won't even notice."
Elwood's flophouse is now a small park ("Pritzker Park") across the tracks from the Harold Washington Library. The train passes by there before and after the 6:00 mark: library on the right, Pritzker Park on the left. That area, the "south Loop," was a lot more squalid in the late '70s.
Да уж, боюсь представить что происходило бы в Москве с такой скоростью движения поездов. Вот что значит быть первопроходцем. Штаты собрали все шишки, а СССР их учёл и создал один из самых эффективных метрополитенов в мире (что бы доехать из одного конца Москвы до другого на метро уходит примерно полтора часа)
Alden Weaver you know, the train just goes slow at the DOWNTOWN LOOP. Its sharp curves prevent speed. There was even an accident in 1977. The other parts outside downtown are normal and go pretty fast.
The focal length of the camera makes it seem slower than it actually is. If you take a look at this video from the CTA, it gives you a better idea. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fJzhNPKtR0Q.htmlm9s Loop footage is around the 36 minute mark. Also, there are fewer stations in the loop now. Finally, It seems you don't understand the history of logic behind Chicago's loop system, so please educate yourself before throwing shade about something you don't bother to learn about. It is a major hub where most people are getting in and off, most of the L trains converge there, the curves are very tight, and the loop is one of the oldest sections of transit track in the USA, but it still works excellent. I specifically moved to Chicago, in large part, due to the great transit system here.
Одноногий слепой ветеран вьетнамской войны без костыля обгонит это метро даже не вспотев.. Приезжайте в Москву, что б увидеть настоящий городской метрополитен.
Одноногий слепой ветеран вьетнамской войны без костыля обгонит это метро даже не вспотев..хееее..ну я немогу..да у них там пробки даже в метрополитене и в лифтах..поэтому так медленно..страна то маленькая..народу много
To those complaining about the slowness of the train, the lens was in the telephoto position which compresses the scene giving the illusion of going slow. To cure that just go to your setting and hit playback speed then hit 2X.
In Europe cars wait at the traffic lights while trains get priority. In Chicago trains have to wait for other trains and stop every few yards unless an american has to walk more than 20 yards LOL. But the trains above can get around some amazing radius curves.
Been on the loop in Chicago. It is this slow for real. Felt like a museum line, but it’s their central change station spread out. Construction is pretty interesting, being really old and still works today. What you don’t hear in this video is the extreme noise these turns create. I hope no one lives in the buildings next door.
God, what a complex and fascinating structure of the metro! In Europe and especially in Moscow they are much, much simpler. I want to thank the author of this video, it helps me see the world. I hope that someday I will see Chicago with my own eyes.
This is a very old urban transit system primarily limited to the city of Chicago and a few adjacent suburbs. There is also a parallel passenger train system in the Chicago area called "Metra" with stations spread out and many lines far into the suburbs.
Great Metro the El in Chicago and its cheap to travel too. As a Uk tourist I particularly liked the line to O’Hare airport. But the Elevated is a great ride.
Nice loop ride! I guess the proximity of the stations work well as a pick-up/drop-off piece of track that feeds a longer route. On modern systems this is usually done with buses, trams or narrow gauge trains.
That's exactly what the Loop is for. It provides service for 5 total lines, Brown, Purple, Pink, Orange and Green and they are branch out into different directions. The Loop is mainly a pick-up drop off track for everyone outside of the downtown area. We used to have a 2nd Loop as well, the Stockyards Branch. The announcer is Lee Crooks.
Maybe strictly within Downtown. Maybe. Try watching "CTA Real Time" rides for each route; once you're outside of the Loop, it's a whole different story.
Not weird just the loop when trains leave they go faster they go slow probably because of the tight curves and other trains at the station the loop if I’m wrong correct mean