That's what's so great about collecting all of the draft preview magazines. It is so much fun to read the old ones and see how crazy bad the takes on players were.
Shaq Thompson is a hit. Picked late first for the Panthers and he’s still there with consistent performances. He’s maybe not a superstar but u need these players for your franchise
Even if his prime was short due to issues he had prior to draft, there was no question it was the right pick in my mind. Helped make them a powerhouse.
@@Grayth1985 I don't think being a consistent starter is a hit. I think it's fair giving a meh to someone who has been a starter but has never amassed any elite production, because usually that's why you draft 1st rounders, for elite talent. Just having a league average starter is somewhat meh when you invest that high of a pick.
@@OkagaCalifornia Agree to disagree. I think pick 17 from 8 years ago still being a nailed-on starter on the best D line in the league is a hit. Picks 25 and 27 also good solid NFL players.
Byron Jones was a great shutdown corner for a few seasons he just never had any INTs so people thought he was trash. I’d call him one of few hits of the first round easily
He was a solid secondary guy. He could cover in man and in space, and rarely gave up big plays. Whoever does these videos need to brush up on what “hit” and “meh” really are.
Over 50 NFL players have caught over 10,000 yards and these R 16 game seasons now,so in 5 years 4rm now we'll see a 50-100 more receivers get 10k yards.
Knocking Shaq Thompson for not being a tackling machine his first few years while he was playing next to LUKE KUECHLY and THOMAS DAVIS says a lot about the knowledge here
I mean, that SHOULD be to his benefit. Because he was lined up next to those guys, they should be drawing the tackles in freeing up Shaq to get the backs or QB. The fact he still didn't is a bit meh worthy.
@@jacobwilliams1223 It was gonna be hard to get to the tackle quicker than Luke when he knew where the ball was gonna be before the opposing QB set the play
100%. He’s been one of the best linebackers in the league since those two retired. You’re going to have less opportunities when you’re playing behind a HOFer and an All Pro.
DJ Humphries, Arik Armstead and Shaq Thompson are the only 3 players that are still with the team that drafted them; yet are labeled as 'Meh' Bryon Jones was a legit All Pro and Pro Bowler in 2018... 'Meh' Then there's Bud Dupree, with 0 All Pros and Pro Bowls while also currently being a free agent... HIT
Man I remember being 13 watching Gurley, Gordon, Abdullah put up monster numbers in college. It seemed liked every other week they were putting up 175-200 yards, and like 2 or 3 Tds. Jameis and Mariota killing it. This was one of my favorite draft because of all of the players and how amazing they were in college unfortunately it didn't really translate to the NFL. My favorite draft was the 2017 draft. I can't wait til they do that one lol
@@zdr7420 it's crazy the 2013 is considered 'worse' yet 11 players have gone on to earn 1st Team All Pro honors while the 2015 draft has only 9. 7 players from the 2013 draft class have been named 1st Team All Pro 2+ times while the 2015 class only has 2 players with 2 or more. So honestly, the 2015 draft class is worse than the 2013 one
Nelly had some rough moments, but look at his statline from the super bowl win, especially the gamewinning drive in the 4th, he was key in that win so thats worth the pick already
@@memememe908 I mean, he's not what you expect from a first round pick, but he's not a complete bust either. I just thought what the guy said was hilarious.
@@piranhasforscissors Well according to nfl fan logic the only thing that matters are super bowls so he should be considered better than cooper at thisbpoint
Dude got injured waking up, got injured walking, got injured sneezing, got injured sleeping, got injured opening a bottle of soda... The Bears did NOTHING to check on his medical, nor his injury history. There were 10 other players that made more sense at that Pick for the Bears, and they went ahead and did the most Bears thing... picking the BIGGEST BUST in the entire 2015 Draft. And it's not close.
Really glad I was here to see Todd Gurley in his prime. I always thought the horns on his helmet were appropriate; the way he burst through the line for huge gains was just like a ram
The middest draft, Todd Gurley would be a hall of fame if injuries didn't slow him down, he was never the same after that week 12 game against Chicago in 2018
Hilarious that they would edit in Mike Mayock praising players that became busts, questioning players that became quality starters, and then the Raiders hired him and he helped drive that organization into the ground
For a late first round pick, I feel like Shaq Thompson has to be a hit. Quality starter for 8 years, starter on the 15-1 team, 4 straight years over 100 tackles
His career was doomed getting drafted by a team with a trash offensive line. He spent his first 3 seasons running for his life and playing injured, and he was never the same after that. Such a shame, he was electric to watch at Oregon
Nah that one was right, he’s still in the league which is good, but the type of player the Jets thought they were getting. They wanted him to be like a Myles Garrett type player
@@laurinnn they’re both DE’s but I guess Leonard slides inside more often than not, but they did have similar hype as the best DE in their draft classes. Myles has been elite, meanwhile Leonard is ok at best
@@jalengreen1301 you don't know what you're talking about and it shows. Leonard and Garrett are nothing alike, and Leonard has been far better than just okay as well
DJ Humphries is a hit. He’s been everything you could reasonably ask for in a mid to late first round pick. A mainstay tackle for a decade is not easy to find.
Until his kness gave out, was one of the most productive players in the league. 2x All-Pro, 79 total TDs, 8,336 total yards in 6 seasons is pretty incredible considering that he was likely never at 100% because of his knee issues
@@TheDieseI An under 4 YPC for most of his career is not that productive. There's a reason why he has been splitting carries everywhere he went, and not just because he struggled to stay healthy. He only made the Chargers running game better by virtue of it being terrible. Also he has never been an All-Pro, he was a two time Pro Bowler, one of which he got only because someone else was injured. And it was 69 (nice) touchdowns over 8 seasons.
Byron Jones was pretty good for the cowboys. The dolphins gave him 5 years 82 million. He played good 2 years giving up less catches and yards than x.... He just got injured and never recovered from surgery then cut
As a Chicago Bears fan, I was looking forward to seeing what all Kevin White could do. The last I checked, he's still on the NFL's free agent block... I could be wrong on that part, though.
I will always wonder what Marcus Peters may have looked like had some of those pre-draft rumors of him and Seattle came to fruition. Would've been across from Richard Sherman still in his prime.
Kevin White Is One Of the Biggest Draft Bust Of All Time Because when he Drafted This Dude was Never Healthy But I Did Here He made a Lil Noise In New Orleans Or Seattle
Definitely a draft where a number of the best players available were later. Landon Collins, Danielle Hunter, Stephon Diggs, Frank Clark, and Darren Waller to name five.
It’s pretty hilarious that most these guy’s careers lasted 5 years or less, average career is 3.3 years, yet teams like the Colts put so much stock in drafting every year and getting late round steals just for them to be off the team a few years later. When are fans going to learn that they aren’t “rebuilding” they’re literally getting the cheapest employees they’re legally allowed to, constantly have the most cap room in the league every year only to never spend that money to actually make a push to win the Super Bowl. They’re just maximizing profits every year while hypnotizing a growing fan base into showing up to the most games and buying the most merch for an underperforming sh*t show. They’re not the only team pulling this off either i feel like a lot of other franchises are seeing this real financial success and following suit, raiders, Vikings, jets… fill in the blank. Always those off season teams, this is gonna be our year! Then they’re so pathetic they actually get their fan base to root for them to lose just so they can repeat the cycle all over again! Wild. Truly insane and spellbinding stuff 🤨
So basically you have to be "remarkable" to be a "hit"? I don't like this logic. I think a player who has had a solid NFL career should be considered a hit unless he is top 5 (higher expectations). Some of these linemen are still in the league and pro bowlers and have had solid careers drafted late in the first round getting a "meh" is just not fair to them.
it's even missing letters (Gurley's info says just "opo" instead of "opoy") or entire words (Randall's info says just "damarious" without his last name
I think part of that perception comes from the fact that Erik Fischer was the first pick vs Jameis Winston here. Not that Winston is better, but let’s face it, that’s a quarterback vs a left tackle going first overall.
2013 gets a lot of criticism for being a weak first round and deservedly so, but I’m not sure how much better I’d call this first round. Though I would call it a pretty good receiver class.
i N j U r I e S The common excuse of players with the lack of interest to help the team setting them back and of course bringing a bad rep to them. I think of Breshad Perriman and this guy as an example. Unless if you are Todd Gurley they don’t get no slack 👎
Can anyone tell me what exactly happened to Stephone Anthony? I remember his rookie season being real good and kinda miffed that my Packers didn't draft him, but then he just fell off of the face of the earth. Was he simply outplayed? Were their disciplinary issues?
In the words of the video they made in 2020 that is better than this one in my opinion: “Anthony proved as a rookie that he was worth the pick, but perhaps a mishandling of him has sent his career spiraling downward; far from first round status.” He got traded a couple times and the side of the field he was told to play was changed a couple Times apparently.
Can someone explain to me how Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon are considered hits? Gurley had like 2 or 3 good years and Gordon consistently fumbles far too much
Dupree is a meh. Did not really do anything with the Steelers until T.J. showed up and when he went to Tenn, he did not do anything there. I feel like a hit means you do not need a good supporting cast around you.
please put some respect on byron jones name, as a cowboys fan he was a shut down corner in the sense where he was never targeted because of how he stuck to receivers, very little interceptions but plenty of pass break ups and elite coverage
Mariota..let’s just be real..they Titans franchise owe him a great deal,cause at least he brought the back to at least a 9-7 on consistent basis as well as at some decency compared to them winning 2 and 3 games before he got there
Doesn’t it just break your heart? That guy got blasted as the “problem” fit so many years even though all of his 5 different OC’s never adapted to his style of play. The guy was destined for greatness and was failed. As a Titans fan, I really do wonder what could’ve been and thank him for turning my sorry ass franchise into a playoff team.
@@hamblen_fc I’m a Titans fan as well,die hard..I wish things would’ve went better so he can still be here but they did not give him the best chance and we at least knew we had shot everytime he was under center
This really put into context how little player development happens in the NFL. All these draftees are expected to be superstars from day one which is ridiculous in any other sport.
Considering that I had to think for a few seconds before I remembered that we took Breshad Perriman in this draft lets you know just how much he did for us
@@jeremyc9593Ravens drafted Darren Waller, who came into the league listed as a WR and moved to TE after his suspension. But otherwise, this is correct
Not only that, but after his fourth season, Peat was missing games more often. Meh is fine for him. Armstead is certainly a better pick, especially considering he was taken a few spots later.
