2015 KIA K900 vs Lexus LS 460 Matchup Review: And the Ultimate Asian Luxury car Is... 

Once again, the "experts" are criticizing a luxury car for not being sporty. The "experts" dare not drive a Rolls Royce, because it contains ZERO sportiness.

That is what a true Luxury car is supposed to do, isolate you from the outside environment and create it's own. If you want to feel the road, get a go cart, or better yet open the door stick your hand out and touch the road.

Fast forward to 2021: Buy a 2015 LS and everyone knows you're driving a 6 year old Lexus. Buy a 2015 K900 and everyone says, "Wow! What's that? Never seen one of those before."

Why does everyone bash Kia? They're great cars and have rebuilt their brand. Seems like a lot of people are just follow each other and haven't even driven these cars at all.

I like how he tried to diss Lexus by saying its a Toyota. Don't get why that would be bad, when its actually a great thing.

I am so tired of all these comparison videos where the hosts spend the whole time dogging the Korean automobiles. These videos need to be done by individuals that are not bias to either brand.

Nathan and Roman - I think you asked the wrong question at the end of the video. "If you had $90k, which car would you buy?" Well of course if you had $90k you'd get the Lexus, because it's a better car. But that's not really the proper question. The real question should be "If you had $65k, would you buy the K900, a nicely equipped E350, A6 w/ prestige package, or a relatively base 535?' You see, I think that changes things a bit. When you look at all the features you get in the K900 compared to the cars I just listed, I think the K900 really has a shot here. It's a much larger, "luxo-cruiser" type car than the midsize sedans from the Germans I mentioned above, and that may appeal to someone in that price range. The same goes for the Hyundai Genesis only on the smaller scale for the Germans (C300, A4, 335i). You can be sure I'd rather pay $50k for a loaded Genesis than a well equipped 3 series with zero back seat leg room and giant repair bills once the warranty is up.

k900 looks way cooler to me.

At least Hyundai and Kia update their vehicles pretty regularly, which you usually can't say about some of the Japanese brands who let their cars stick around waaay too long.

I give Kia credit... this is their first attempt at this level of luxury and they came pretty close... Wait til Kia has 5 or 6 yrs in ultra luxury. It took Hyundai a few tries to get the Genesis right.

The Kia is going to be worth 25k in a year lol

While I am a huge Lexus fan, I think that the LS is behind all of the competitors, because cars like the S-Class are a lot more desirable and have more features.

Lexus is the best hands down. Superior in reliability, engineering, and comfort.

this is my second ls and these cars are so damn reliable

Great review as usual. It's nice how you've summed up the intangibles as making a huge difference between two otherwise similar cars. Some people have told me that a Kia has 2x as many features and may have more horsepower than my car (x1 35i) but when it comes to on road refinement and actual 0-60 times there's no comparison.

Lexus is still the better car , at the end of the day..... Kia just imitate other brands and just hope for the best

Personally I think you guys were waaay too hard on the Kia and gave the Lexus more appraisal then it's worth. Don't get me wrong the Lexus IS a beautiful car but that Kia is a damn good car as well and to say the Lexus is better is unorthodox. Kia has come a long ways and they are only getting better. Your paying for the badge. As far as the window farting maybe get that checked out cause my buddy's optimas windows don't sound like that and that car costs way less. Personally I think that hour glass figure grill on the Lexus looks abit ugly. I think the Kia looks nicer minus the fake air vents. This is my opinion and I know I'm gonna get hates and comments for it but so be it. You guys do good reviews tho so don't think I'm bashing you guys I watch all your reviews, but it's not fair to bash the Kia either and even you guys admit to being hard on the Kia. Maybe I'm wrong here but some people are loyal to their brands and that's that. I will continue watching your reviews and I'm just putting my 2 cents in.

I enjoy your videos, but I do wish that you would stop revving the engine with the car in "parked", and recording at the exhaust pipe.......You seem to do this in a lot of your reviews. Why, the car is mapped, and limited whilst in park !! Please ?

This was a really good review guys! Sometimes you guys aren't quite on point with your videos, but I was impressed by this one. Good job!

They say Kia copied other cars. Hmmm. If I see 4 cars that I really like certain features in each but not all of them and Kia comes out with a car that gives me the best of all 4 for much less than either of them..............Way to go Kia!!!! Keep doing your thing! Haters are going to hate, but I will continue to congratulate!! Don't despise small beginnings.

When he opened the hood I literally laughed out loud, why even open it?

Once again JD Powers has released the list of cars with the best rated initial quality. KIA comes in first place and Porsche in second place. Sorry, Lexus came in 7th place which must be disappointing for them and all you KIA haters.

The two giants of car reviewing face off over the bonnets of two stonking V8's. Folks, it does not get any better than this. This video is EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!

man you guys were really hard on that kia. it's like saying to your older son he's way better than your youngest son.

with lexus you feell the real japanese soul with luxury ♡

I agree with Nathan, there's a reason the KIA K900 is $66K and it's in the cost cutting areas to simulate what established luxury car makers have been doing for quite some time(not skimping on what buyers expect and making most components intuitive to the user). KIA(and Hyundai) have made huge strides in making attractive and better quality vehicles at competitive prices, but something has to give and it seems to me it's in the design aspect. Many KIA and Hyundai designs look like a jumble of other manufacturers design cues and, frankly, it has already made them look dated IMO(3 co-workers own KIAs- 2 Optimas and 1 Cadenza) and I see late 2000s Japanese in them. Next time you see a late model Optima, look at the greenhouse area from behind, the tapered roofline looks fussy and dated to me. Don't get me wrong, if you want a car with tons of content at an attractive price, KIA and Hyundai are clear leaders in the segment, just don't complain when resale prices plummet like a badly made paper airplane...............

I have own my K900 for over a year and compared to my Lexus LS there is no comparison. 93,500 to 62,250? how is that a fair comparison? It isn't Kia is just showing Lexus and the rest of the industry... Look out Bitches We are coming and coming up fast... To late we are there. Both cars are nice but I do really like my Kia over the Lexus because it is just a screaming, tail on fire car. It just blows the Lexus off the road. It really does, this video doesn't even come close to showing what really is happening and I feel comfortable in the Kia while it is doing it. When I am moving a around 110mph the Kia is smooth and doesn't scary me my Lexus does. Lexus is easy to over control because of the hard road feed back. For me I am slowly becoming an Kia .... Naaa Lexus is nice and I do like the looks a lot more and also when others see me in the Lexus I get that look of WoW you made it and I hope I do one day. Status symbol stuff. But not everyone can buy the Stupidly High Priced Lexus so get a an Kia K900 and you will know just what I am talking about. Screw the Status Symbol I just want to Move and feel good while I do.

I get a feeling that Kia/Hyundai still had a MUCH larger budget for designing this and the Equus then what lexus had with the LS, the koreans started from scratch and made two cars which now seriously can compete with the others, while Lexus has been sleeping over the LS the few later years, it even has the same driveline as the one from 2007 for god's sake! Many of the buttons is looking 1992 to me, and have you seen the optional rear seat entertainment on the center console for the EU model? It looks like a joke! No one seems to write home about the tech and everyone is complaining about the LS600h... Doesn't Toyota understand that no matter how many new sport and powermodes and F sport they add, it is not a substitute for a remake! I deeply like the Lexus brand, but the LS is getting long in the tooth now, and they are going to be overtaken by the koreans if they don't do anything. In my mind, they already have been.

I've never seen a K900 on the road?

Mind you the Lexus is 7 years old, at very near end of it's model life, imagine how good the next generation LS would be

woow kia is better

Won't you TFL guys stop being biased when reviewing a car?? Please stop being harsh on cars that you reviewers hate and give us a unbiased review! The looks are dependent on everyone's opinions. I'm sorry to compare against some other reviewer, but Chris Harris for example, quietly states his opinion about the looks after saying that looks definitely are dependent on each person's opinions about the looks, not just saying "that one is sexy, that one is ugly." And really? Complaining about the noise when moving the seats backwards and forwards in the K900? That's like complaining about the candles on birthday-cake because they melt too fast. That can't be avoided. It is reasonable! And only talking about the "culture" of rewarding yourself when driving a Lexus and only talking about the negative facts about the Kia is quite unfair. Even when they talked about the smoothness about the K900, they put it as "numb", which completely makes it clear that they don't know about the purpose of each car that the manufacturer claims. For example, that's like saying Rolls Royce is very unengaging despite the company claiming that the vehicle isn't about the engagement. Anyway, I'm sorry I'm complaining about your reviews, but please stop being biased...

Luxary from Japanese motor vehicle manufacturers have proven them self as truly being products of great engineering. Performance. Quality. Attention to detail. Reliability. Kia. Essentially "copies" what's precise as luxurious from their rivals. Ie Japan.

The K900 has been a complete flop. This entire year KIA sold a whopping 1106 K900s. I think KIA forgot about the failure of the VW Phaeton, no one was lining up to buy a $70,000 VW, and certainly no one is lining up to buy a $65,000 KIA. What a joke. Almost everyone with 65K to spend on a car would laugh at the thought of owning a KIA.

Wow! great opening shot background. very beautiful landscape.

One dude actually said, he wants more feedback and feel from the outside world, well these 2 cars are engineered for comfort not sport!

Lexus is a Lexus and KIA is a KIA.

I also would choose the Lexus, but I admit that Kia made a very nice car and faster than the Lexus

I used to have a 2014 KIA Cadenza and it's amazing how similar looks the K900 😁

I've been a DieHard Chevy fan for over 20+ years. But, when I purchased my 2013 KIA Optima SXL, I was pleasantly amazed at the level of luxury and power I was getting for a competitive price. @274 HP, my Optima has wiped the floor with a Lancer EVO, Subaru WRX, Ford Fusion Titanium and The Lexus IS350! Even though those cars had more horsepower. The sheer Turbocharged 269ft lbs of torgue @ 6k rpm's, and the Optima's wide wheel base out performed my buddies Lexus and Fusion in the corners. And, @ 155mph the Ford Fusion seemed to suffer from too much wind resistance. Also, during drag races, when I switched to sport mode. The EVO and WRX were left in my dust STILL upshifting while I was crossing the finish line @ 100+mph and 1/4 mile between us! KIA has come a long way from only producing slow & ugly cars. Also, the styling of my KIA turns far more heads and catches more attention than my friends Lexus ever has. And he has aftermarket rims and tires. While my car does not. I think that KIA has proved themselves to be a premium car company. And, they deserve credit for making good cars at competitive prices. It's also been rumored that KIA is currently developing a "Balls To The Wall" Race car that will rival the Lexus LFA!!!!

Is the Kia K900 that different from the Hyundai Equus?

Lexus is Japanese quality. The statement needs no explanation.

I agree with your assessments of these cars. Personally, I would take the Lexus. It may not have that "involvement" that Roman talks about but then it isn't meant for those looking to feel every nuance of the road and how the car response to it. And besides, it's hard to beat quality, craftsmanship, and prestige regardless of price.

I know the Kia isn't as good as the Lexus, but I absolutely love the lights on it, fantastic.

I can't believe that lexus is 90k.. it looks so cheap from the outside, looks no different than the much cheaper IS models from the outside.

Call me crazy but I'd take the K900 and pocket the change. The Lexus badge means nothing to me personally and the K900 has all the features of the LS. The spindle grill is ugly and I LOVE the headlights of the K and I think the overall design is a bit more youthful if nothing else.

Hello tfl. There is alot of useless debate and hate happening with the comments section, but then again I'd just like to share or correct you guys with this luxury review. The problem was you were doing this review on the driving enthusiasts point of view, as you guys and me are but then the people on the luxury class segment doesn't want to feel the road and they'd rather be isolated and comfortable inside the car specially driven or when they would like to use the car themselves. Just sharing my thoughts and experience. Cheers to tfl I love watching your vids! Ps. I'm also with these luxury class people.

Essentially it's like so: LS460 - If you crave for acknowledgement K900 - If you don't crave for acknowledgement. People talking about resale value...one I don't know why you'd buy a car for its resale value.....you should buy a car you'd like to keep. and two, you won't ever get a resale return that warrants a $30k price difference.

I always think these guys got paid by japanese company ..always prejudice. .shouldnt be a car reviewers

At the end of the day most people are not going to spend almost $70k on a Kia

Kia K900 vs Lexus ES350 would have been a better comparo because it's based on pricepoint, not size, and ES350 did move up in size/weight recently. Kia K900 is obviously not going to match the refinement of a current $90k+ car, but it's really cheap. About the same price as a ES350 which only has V6 and FWD. Until the next-gen Phaeton comes back, K900 and Equus are in a class of their own. I honestly think K900 was introduced this year to allow the Equus to move upscale because K900 comes too close to Equus in quality/price, and Equus is getting a bit old in the bones, it HAS to be part of corporate plan to bring prestige to the Hyundai name, which has been consistently moving upscale starting 2005 with the 2006 Sonata. Before that car, Hyundais were amongst the bottom tier of automakers, not in sales but in overall quality/refinement/performance, and they were one of the cheapest new cars you could get. The rate of them moving upscale is crazy, maybe a little too fast, and the public may not be ready for them. You know how slow the public is. They have ideas in their minds, and they are stuck with them. They're father told them Hyundais suck, and they believe their fathers. Hyundai is doing a surprisingly good job though, and they should be getting there soon. At this rate, I believe in them.

That KIA is so hideous, i won't even pay 50k for that thing, this isn't a fair comparison one bit, the Lexus goes toe to toe with cars like the Audi A8, Jag XJL, Bmw 7 series and the s class. There's simply no point comparing the Lexus with any other Asian car.

You guys say that kia is just kia and it cant be compared to lexus... don't get me wrong I like lexus they are awesome but.. its called lexus in the states so honestly you guys are paying 90grand for a toyota... hyundai and kia didn't make a another brand like acura,lexus,infinity. Ur paying 90grand for the brand that makes corolla,yaris,tc,xb...just saying..

K900 is badass in my opinion the Kia man!!

For cars like these, isolation is actually not a negative thing. If I took a car like this it would be to have a quiet, nice, peaceful drive. Also, if I can afford this car, I can afford a sports car too to give me that "road feel".

I thought that this was somewhat biased review and both of them were kind of harsh on KIA ... For example ...... Lexus exterior and interior both suck (bland) as compared to K900. I agree with some points like noise when power-window operates but there are some bad points in Lexus interior as well. KIA has really done a good job as far as this car is concerned.

This video is like comparing the Lexus LFA to the Kia forte Koup... IT JUST DOESNT WORK OUT

Omg. This is totally not fair. The Lexus is outta that Kia's league. They're not comparable I mean seriously, are you coming to argue about comparing " KIA " with the " LEXUS " especially that new LS460!? That Kia's is not even half close to that Lexus.

such a nice video brothers I am really liked those videos you provide but let me ask about making a comparison in size between bmw 740 mercedes s550 quoris and genesis

Buying a used K900 is the way to go. Obviously it's not the best luxury car, but it's like 80% of an S-class experience for $28,000 which is insanity.

No one will pay close to 70k for a Kia because people are use to Kia making cheap gas saving economy cars not high end luxury vehicles, also it will not retain its over all value like a Lexus would. Not to mention the Kia emblem is ugly and does not scream "look at me I'm a high end luxury car". Stick to 15-20k cars Kia!!

call me crazy but would take the kia more bang for your buck but lexus would be 2nd before all that European shit

Wow! Stunning scenery! So beautiful that these cars look hidious compared to the mindblowing background!

I think most people who put down Korean cars..are people who have never actually owned one or spent time in one in the last 10 years. Hyundai's are generally dependable and pleasant to drive. They give you a lot of car and technology for the least amount of money. If saving money is important to you..then consider a Korean car. If it isn't..then go get your Toyota or Lexus and be happy. But at this rate..there WILL be a TRUE Korean luxury car to compete with Lexus in less than a decade. =)

Lebron James drives a K900. Just a fun fact.

Man I'm starting to want that KIA.

never buy a brand new kia I've seen used k900 with low miles (10-20k) for 28k!!! getting 90k features for 28k is definitely more for your money imo

One of the ceo's at a site I used to work used to be driven to work in a bullet proof Hyundai Equis.

As far as the hierarchy of Luxury Reliability goes you can generally expect to see Japanese-300,000 miles+ German- 200,000 miles Korean- 180,000 miles American- 150,000 miles In terms of Luxury Features wise would rank: 1) German, 2) Japanese, 3) Korean, 4) American I like some american cars but honestly our game sucks. I hope Cadillac is really serious this year about letting go of GM and soloing it, so they can revamp their company image. I don't even know if GMC is supposed to be a luxury brand, they have "alright" looking exteriors I guess, but the interiors are like a truck. I wouldn't even consider Tesla American, Elon Musk is a genius, but he's like god sent from another world to take advantage of the american facilities and marketing.

kia k900 👍👍

Is that LS460 a long term tester for TFL, it's been in numerous videos over a long time span?

I have to disagree with the styling on the Lexus. If I saw that car on the street, I would never guess it cost 90k. Bland is one way to put it, and very similar to the cheaper cars from Lexus. When you look at a Mercedes, Jaguar, or Maserati, it exudes a sense of expensive style. I think the Kia could have been the better looking car, if it didn't have those strange addons like the vents (here I completely agree with TFLC).

Stop talking about the brand, same thing you guys did in the genesis review

Really compare a KIA with a Lexus !!KIA is economy car line,Lexus is true Luxury !!

The mistake many analysts make, when reviewing vehicles like the LS is that their complaints are misguided. Vehicles like the LS Lexus are luxury vehicles..not sport or enthusiast cars. The review should be based on the purpose of the cars creation and not just on their biases. The Lexus LS is a luxurious and reliable vehicle. Furthermore, I believe any vehicle that one spends more than 50k on should be reliable ( A strong point for Lexus). If the complaint is that the Lexus RC, GS, or IS doesn't give you the connectivity or communication of the road; the buyer is seeking than the reviewer's complaints have every merit to stand. But these are luxury vehicles and not sport cars.

Roman, what is that watch you are wearing here ?

I'm sorry but i honestly could not spend so much on a Korean car...

Thanx . . kia k900 the best

so biased. more numb feeling is considered more luxurious. I absolutely love how kia is just numb. that is exactly what I love about my kia amanti.

I really enjoyed this review. It had a more critical and serious comparison vibe to it than some other ones on the channel. As for the cars, you wouldn't see either one in my driveway lol. I don't think its practical at all to spend that much on a car EVER... But I do like a few of the new Kias personally. Especially the Optima. The brand has come a long way in a very short period of time. But in that fact lies the main problem as well. I guarantee the public is not ready for a near-$70,000 Kia. Eventually, they might be. I expect the trend to change over time. But like was mentioned, the car cuts corners in some ways and even though Kia has but extensive effort into their new "tiger-nose" design language, its clear they are copying other more established brands' technology and styling advancements as well, making the car feel less unique and more basic overall despite how loaded up it is. And that's a shame, because like was mentioned in the video, I believe its a solid ride. I noticed in a different review that the engine sounds bad on start-up and in this video, it sounds like a glorified 4 cylinder at times. But you are paying for name and quality in this price range, and one is a Lexus and the other is a Kia. Kia offers a strong case in how they can undercut the competition on price and feature content and warranty, but still needs to figure out the rest of their equation before they're truly taken seriously. They can start by changing their logo I fell. Plastering the same logo from the "old Kia" all over new $40,000-$70,000 cars that are actually better than past models isn't going to take them far in the long-run, no matter how much value they can pack into their models.

Biased from the get go.

Call me crazy but I seriously can't stand the new Toyota/Lexus grill.... It's the ugliest grill on any car. The weird down and out angles reminds me of the throat snakes from the show "The Strain"... Just plain UGLY.

can u guys compare the ls 460, A8, s550 and 7 series in a real match up. It's obvious which one is the better car in this case but Id like to see u guys match up some serious competitors and give us ur opinion on them

I rather not talk about Lexus since Lexus has built quality cars for awhile so buying a lexus is a good choice, however for Kia K900 and only 66K- and you got the technology or features that are not available on some premium luxury cars like BMW, Mercedes Benz, Cadillac and Audi. And, if you buy cars like bmw, mercedes benz, and audi, you buy the name brand only. I'd purchased a 2010 BMW 750i Xdrive with just a little over 20k miles but you know what? It slept over the car dealer's service shop more than I had drove it. If you don't believe me I encourage you to go buy one and prove me wrong. In addition, I don't like TFL Car because they don't even disclosed the details of the car they only walk the straight line.

Lexus is the boss!

The kia looks better by far

18 MPG on the Lexus? I would of thought it could do a little better. I get an average 17-18 mpg in my full sized 4x4 truck. Well only when I'm not pulling something and it tends to drop to about 14-15 during winter months for some reason. Good thorough review Gents. I wouldn't buy either of those but was entertaining to watch none the less

they are both good car most of it come down to mrp and stuff and the cost but for my opinion i think its both r good.

Think of it this way: Buy the Kia and get 100,000 miles worth of gas (at today's prices) for free.

that kia k900 is too much for that lexus

Kia K900 or Kia Quoris (European market) is not a Lexus LS direct competitor. It was meant to be a rival of BMW 5 series, MB E-Klasse Lexus GS and Audi A6. And i personaly think that second generation of K900 that will come out somewhere around 2020 will beat not only its direct rivals, but also be above all in its segment!

How long will it take for this channel to stop posting on RU-vid?

The moment I hear the voice of Roman I know I've made a shitty mistake clicking on the video. Roman seems to have a wrong job. The styling of Lexus truly sucks. My GOD Roman, are you insane?

LOL...THESE CARS ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME CLASS

Still, no one beats Lexus reliability or durability. You're almost there, Kia/Hyundai.

The KIA is a great car after its 3yr/36,00 mike lease at $24,000. WINNER!

Kia vs lexus ,hahahahah ,,,,,,,,,,Kia just a toy

The only reason to buy the Kia is because you can't afford the Lexus

What is the purpose of rev limiter

why didu delete the gti video