2015 Maps of Meaning 08a: Mythology: The Great Mother / Part 1 (Jordan Peterson) 

In this lecture Dr. Peterson talks about saying "No" to things, corporations instruct you to do. "No means no". This is exactly what he did in regards to the C-16 bill. Respect!

I've been re-discovering his older lectures. And I have to say, I like these even more than the recent ones on biblical themes. He was more at ease prior to 2017.

The first hour of this lecture is so rich in wisdom, from career and productivity advice to truths about divorce and relationships.

00:36:00 existential misery, ethics in business, 00:44:00 meaningful relationships 01:14:00 dying into your own personality, growing up, Peter pan perspective 01:16:00 harnessing anger as power, standing up for yourself, sources of power 01:41:00 sacrafice, delayed gratification 01:50:00 archetypes

Thank you for all of your wisdom Mr.Peterson. I think you're helping to change the world in a really positive way and I'm grateful for it.

I've watched many of these lectures and this is the best one so far.

the talk on familial tensions/struggles has me reaching to reread some r.d.laing, get reacquainted with the various knots and loops of our games. thank you.

A useful note for me and others: Maps of Meaning has been written 4 times: - C. G. Jung, Symbols of Transformation - Eric Neumann, The Origins and History of Consciousness - Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death (- and some element at Heidegger)

I have been binge watching these lectures since I found the 2016 ones and realized there were only two up. My background is in appield mathematics, but I am addicted to self improvment and understanding my place in the world.As such I am fascinated by the social sciences. I would love to just have a conversation about the things I have thought honestly, but for a basic question, is it possible to "socialize" around ideas? I moved a lot as a kid, which meant I didn't have many friends. People were a mystery and this lead to years of social anxiety. However, I feel that I compensated with books when I was young, and concepts became my friends. Ideas became just as dynamic and interactable and maleable as people might be to a more "normal" person. If I felt rejected socially I would retreat to my science, where I felt personal fulfilment and value. As a result, I tend to have to work at relating to people and doing social things, whereas I will start creating mathematical models for things just as a matter of fact. Is this something that is documented, or am I noticing something that the scientific community hasn't yet? Thanks!

The part about the differentiation about the female archetype and a real woman is so powerful and true!

As usual, the first 10 minutes of this lecture contain an cognitive overload of revelations. I'm 60 and can barely handle it. I'm surprised the kids in the class are still breathing after 20 min. These lectures are just like the 1980s Maxell cassette ad.

His lectures are giving these kids free therapy. And me too, really. Thanks Dr Peterson.

I wish his wireless mic was working, as this is one of his best lectures

This set of lectures is like a set of books of every single one of the 12 rules for life

I think it's simple for me and meaningful it is a joy. I practice. I found the love of life. Time is wealth. Walking is life. A goal is never. Just love leasure time is a break.

One adventure games can teach you a whole lot more than working 50 years at McDonalds, it´s a medium like a book, just more immersive. There is so much untapped potential in video games. Most games are violent shooters, but they have so much more potential than that.

This man is just GOAT 🥺

44:12 "2 down, 3 to go"

Explanation of Kali, Hindu Goddess [1:28:58]

start to The Symbolism of the Great Mother [1:08:00]

1:20:10, "The world has made you; and so you embody it." That's gold.

'The archetype shines through the woman.' And the 'guy has to be able to see the individual.' 'Otherwise the woman wont want to have anything to do with him, or play with him like a spider plays with a fly.' That is pretty much a summary of the 'games' people play with one another, because they lie to themselves and each other about who they are and what they see.

He seems so much more relaxed here. Crazy

“Honey, do I look fat?” “It depends on what you mean by ‘fat”. “Honey, do you love me?” “It depends on what you mean by ‘love’, fundamentally speaking.”😂😂😂

Arguably, in terms of Jordan's language, the issue with video games may be that it makes it harder to see the world shine forth, because they effectively are a second map onto of another map, and one in which it is more feasible to get lost and confused within in, so much so that perhaps in the future, as games advance, one forgets there even was a real world at all (Baudrillard discusses this, about the loss of the notion of the real (or reality principle really) and the hyper reality of a system of signs whose signification is really nothing

The idea of sacrifice [1:41:25]

Love everyrhing about this Lecture. His confession that he is guilty when watching youtube vídeos...aw...cute.😍

Carol Jensen I started smoking when I was 10 (1947) and by the time I was 60 I had started to cough. Well, I figured it was the paper on the cigarette (I've never smoked filter cigarettes) so I found cigarillos, the small cigars, and smoke 3 a day. It made me healthy again, so I pass this on to any smoker who is bothered by coughing. The reason I started smoking when I was 10 was that I found a place to have a clubhouse so the boys I played with and I smoked and played cards and generally had a ball.

God this is so amazing.

This was making me think of video games, and their appeal to attention, right before that guy asked a question, was thinking why I could not focus on my homework, I was thinking in context of him stating that we through Darwinism based thought that we focus on what is most helpful to fitness, that possibly, it was due to that being the most equitable use of resources, in contrast to other options(however weighted they maybe by societal norms, {though at partial loss of equity in the probable value, previous success[assuming they were implemented in favor of sucess of newer generations, and not a substructure, created by those high in the dominance hierarchy to protect their position in it. thought this is possibly unlikely since the first critique of that would be that it would undermine, the society , and only a psychopath, which is noted to be an anomaly, would as prof. Peterson has said, "would cut the rungs of the ladder below him, as he moves up"}).

Pastor David brown was talking about serving God's vision collectively and to be effective at that we must all pray for our parents first.

It's a tough one... But this might be his best lecture...

Thanks for posting this!

42:09 i actually did this with my current ceo not too long ago. It was a rather entertaining interaction. 😅 he tried to tell me i couldnt talk about certain things. He made the mistake of doing this on the shop floor, in front of everyone else. 😇

Dad I am praying for you over all things in moderation.

1:16:13 = Count Dooku : "I sense great fear in you, Skywalker. You have hate, you have ANGER, but you don't use them."

I like the color of the door

It is possible to stop thinking for quite a while.

10:53 "HEY, Vsause....

I am praying for all of the musicians of Armstrong chapel!

@ 13.23 it’s “real” because you can physically feel it .. ? Every thing else is the delusion?.. Brilliant work JP .. Thankyou 👏🏻✌🏻

39:00 He almost was prophetically accurate. Instead we got a taned Snow White and the Seven Politically-Correct Companions. Or Snow White and One Dwarf With Six Diverse Magical Creatures Or Snow White and the seven multi-racial, mixed-gender magical creatures

This was such a good one.

fascinating!

I have listen to psychosis theories. I understand that these theories are mirror in everyday life. I have exampled every day life of others and mine. My conclusion is the there a problem to be solved. When this problem is not solved. We draw another circle around the first. Then another. My conclusion is just sort my life out. Get a plan and stick to it. The only option I came up with is the only hierarchy is the source unervise energy. For me it working with this energy and mine. Working together. Working in a linement. Its a privilege that open to all of us.

36:00 get that treasure!

Dad as I read the Bible myself I pray for your anxiety and insomnia.

1:53:22 Why Polytheism? Because it helps us better digest reality/the divine.

1:39:58 I hear this from women all the time

well, for me it's 3 down, 2 to go let's hope at least these 2 will be worth something

1:52:08 - 1:53:22

42:42 "Price's Law rule is that the square root of the number of people who are doing a job do half the work.... so you could say that in a company of 1,000 people 30 people are doing half the work"

1:19:27 [as an infant] it isnt like you confuse the world with your mother... your mother *is* the world at first... humans [females] took 3 billion years to make... [of all possible forms of being] we are everything that reality/world has selected... so we *are* the wlrld in some sense.

Here are a couple of modern representations of the 'Great' Mother (so you will not be accused of any bias): Liberty Leading the People, a painting by Eugene Delacroix en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Leading_the_People#/media/File:Eugène_Delacroix_-_La_liberté_guidant_le_peuple.jpg and The Motherland Calls, a gigantic statue on top of Mamayev Kurgan (kurgan meaning hill or memorial hill in Russian) www.giganticstatues.com/the-motherland-calls/ Among other things, both representations share holding a weapon and standing on top of dead bodies, and the statue is actually standing over the place where the worst of the fighting occurred during the Battle of Stalingrad.

Prediction: in coming years more of your lecture will be devoted to differentiating between what constitutes leisure and what constitutes being in an optimal state of engagement with your interests not because people sway too far in the former direction but because their conception of the latter will map onto things that are considered both. Examples? Being an expert at snapchat. Judiciously moderating a subreddit. Campaigning with the guild for real money.

hi professor jordan ; it will be great if you show us the pictures of gods in future lectures so we can understand better ;thx .

Nietzsche is a bitter root It's one thing to notice what attracts you, but you have to think about it because all attractions can not be good. Impulse shopping has nothing to do with Being... (sale in aisle 11) The idea of sacrifices is too calculative, looking for the unfounded psychological truth to worm its way to the surface. How about LOVE, the greatest demand but on you by a God. With love also come fear and respect. Great insight into love and the archetype that shines forth in gaze of the one who loves. The face that launch a thousand ships is that archetype. And the person who cannot handle it is in a fairy tale. But to stay in the fairy tale is be immature and underdeveloped or suffering from under worth. But what can be worth more than a goddess? Yourself. Love yourself is the message. The greatest demand put on you, and if you can do that you can love others in a way that isn't harmful.

1:16:30 harness anger

1:20:44 the parent should be a representative of the world

1:45:02 sacrifice

What is that psychological family documentary they were talking about? I didnt quite catch the title.

1:18:33

Men's Bible study made me so tired I drank coffee and fell asleep at 5 pm.

That's it, im searching for joggers falling on ice.

36:50 human limitations

01:55:45 Anima posession

39:00 when the brand has value

39:30 Peterson predicts the Star Wars sequels...

I'm burning midnight oil for christ! Praying on a better relationship with my mom.

On runescape cop the most important thing to pray for is a better relationship with your parents on earth.

Hi Professor Peterson, I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to bring to your attention that I find your frequent use of "you know" during class to be a bit distracting. While I understand that these phrases are sometimes used to clarify ideas or prompt discussion, I feel that their excessive use can make it difficult to follow your lectures. I value your insights and expertise, and I would appreciate it if you could consider reducing your use of filler phrases in future classes. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

48:27 3 or 4 acts of infidelity and the relationship is screwed? Isn’t 1 usually enough to do it? I’m wondering about the severity of infidelity implied here. Sex with another person is basically impossible to come back from in a relationship as far as I can tell, unless one or both parties are incredibly open or delusional.

A book about the father archetype?

Pastor David brown I believe in the first amendment and the country and that's why the police support me! You have your methodist perspective I have my perspective and God gave us eternity to understand both perspectives.

Here’s where philosophy goes astray. I like Peterson, so don’t get this wrong. The mere fact he has a problem distinguishing between the virtual reality of video gaming and the conflict and learning within the natural world points to a problem. He is equating “gaming” as an ultimate reality, but if we don’t play inside the rules of natural reality there is of course the self-evident issue that the rules of the virtual world - being designed by humans and/or GAI - can go badly wrong and lead us down a dead end...quite literally. The skills of gaming are only of value if learned and followed by the creator of the rules, so the question is, do we want our game-master the creators of software or the creator or the universe? There is, I would think, a clear distinction.

What is the name in 1:00:05 ?

I believe in the country and the constitution and the earth and thr Bible tells us how to use them morally.

I am praying that my parents will learn about christ through the uc system.

How about showing the diagram he’ referring to? !

what is the book assigned to the class that they are talking about?

I was a great world of wacraft player but was fired from mc donalds after 3 months.... It was the most boring experience working there comparibly

Can anyone help me, where is this kelly character from? Id like to learn more

So annoying that it isn’t showm!

"stupid rules, arbitrary management, counterproductive decisions" -- in another lecture you mention having helped develop competency/personality assessments for employers. You may have already heard this line, but I'll throw it at you like a dagger: those assessments, to the job-seeker, are hell. You have to break your honesty-intuition and submit to filling out answers you think they'd like to see because guess what, if you're honest, A JOB IS NOT HAPPENING. That model--pre-application assessments--forces you to use instrumental language. So...you get to live with having helped shape that added bureaucratic layer of mental-emotional fuckery in the process of getting a job. (I'm joshing you, it's not THAT bad but then again....it really, truly, absolutely is.)

Would anyone be able to provide a link to the image of Kelly the spider!

At about 1:35 he touches upon sacrifice but doesn't go deeply enough. Think Abraham and Isaac. Perhaps 1800 BC, God wasn't breaking new ground here. Child sacrifice was widespread and for good reason. If one wanted to be blessed by God sacrificing that which was most valuable to you would be the logical way to earn his favor. And sacrificing one's first born was the ultimate.

Nothing about the great mother in this lecture, Peterson always focusing on being successful in western meaning.

39:38 call of duty in a nutshell

16:08, tragic compared to what?

My relationship with christ is how I determine how I spend my time. Sorry Christine but certain topics are much older than quantum!

I work so hard I get inefficient.

I had a dream i had a job, took me 3 days to get over it, then i went fishing.... work is for the working class, i like being and working perfectly...

noice

See, you say Bite, grow some teeth, but, Doesn't an eye for an eye make the whole world blind?

52:49 Corona virus here we go

here i am a crippled monster in a closet....

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