2017/06/28: Postmodern NeoMarxism: Diagnosis and Cure 

More like the malevolent uncle.

Roughly speaking.

Eyes of Infinity j

Jordan Peterson is a confessed dracophobe.

chaos is fun.

blueshirttail where can I get one?

Peterson doesn't understand Marxism or postmodernism on a fundamental level. Postmodernism by all definitions is a metaphysical idea guided by time as a nonlinear abstract, whereas Marxism confines itself directly to the physical world. This is the main conflict between these ideologies and why a person can't reasonably be either. Actual postmodernists and actual Marxists are very antagonistic toward one another. But this is one in a very long line of Peterson pretending to understand things that he doesn't have a clue about, be it biology, anthropology, history, gender studies, etc.

@@surgeland9084 ....oh....someone who claims to be smarter than Jordan Peterson....but repsonds to a post about an Alexander Solzhenitsyn tshirt with a completely unrelated rant. "While encompassing a wide variety of approaches and disciplines, postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection of the grand narratives and ideologies of modernism, often calling into question various assumptions of Enlightenment rationality. " By ALL definitions post modernism is metaphysical?

@@lawler3708 Frankly, the shit I took this morning is smarter than Peterson. I was also responding to a comment under this admittedly shit post. Anyway, yes, postmodernism deals primarily with the metaphysical. But that is its conflict with Marxism, which is concerned primarily with the physical. That was my point.

@@surgeland9084 Surgé Land Surgé Land well....at least you're humble 🤣 Someone who takes PHD shits....🤣 You must be the wealthiest troll on RU-vid! .....anyway.... its obvious you never even watched this video. At 14:20.....he must be talking about you 🤣

nakedfordinner Who said anything about humans beings not being treated as having equal value? Saying that individuals have different abilities is self evident. I assume when you need surgery you want a skilled surgeon, rather than the local butcher, or is that discrimination and oppression against butchers? +Squiderrant Be careful which university you choose, or you might find yourself knee deep in this intellectual BS.

solzhenitsin confuses identity/uniformity with social equality. It is a false claims. Is is social equality, equality in humanity, equality in rights, equal access to service, equality of choices . Inequality allows to think some people as subhumans or even non human, meaning a thing that can be killed without remorse. Rejecting equality leads to : slavery , talibans and daesh with women , nazism with the genocid of jews and other, etc... Inequality is just a justification for dominating, exploiting, harming , or destroying the other. It is not moral. You can't defend democracy, freedom, etc... and defending inequality, rejecting equality. It is not logical. Democracy imply citizen with equal political rights, yes this is equality. Dictatorships are based on inequal politic power, inequal economic power, social inequality. There is no freedom without equality. Slave are not free because they don't have equality of humanity, equality of right, equality of speech, equality of freedom of moving, etc.... When slaves are equals to their master, a "free man", then they become free, this is the abolition of slavery. How can you believe that there is no freedom if the slaves are not equal to their master? Nazi could not mass killing jews if they had treat them as brother in humanity, equals in humanity. On the other hand nazism dreamed of germans with the same hair color, eyes colors, skin color, etc... while being very inequalitarians. It is the case for all oppressions. In USSR there was no equality between staline, the nomenklatura and the rest of the nation. This why the regime was oppressive. And this is the reason why real marxist or socialists say that "it is not real communism" because it does not follow the main focus of communism : social equality. Where there is a dictator , there is no social equality. If you treat the others as your equal you don't agress them, you don't think them as harfull at first sight. Equality between two people means pacific relations between peoples. Equality between peoples favor empathy, instead of violence. It leads to more moral acts than inequality.

​@@jean-louispech4921 you've made NO mention of "equality of OUTCOME" which is COMMUNISM where in every case attempted ,resulted in brutal repression and mass murder.

@@bademoxy Equality of outcome is not the subject.... And you are just another ignorant about communism, just believing what say propaganda from dictatorships and capitalists. Communism was not attempted , by the peoples you think as communists. Communism is about peoples getting their needs, not an administration saying what you can eat, communism is about collective power, not a dictatorship, communism is about abolition of police and army, not about tough police and army. Communism is about to put an end to the exploitation of the workers, to allows workers to be involved in decisions with a collective power, etc... nothing that we can see in the countries self labeled as communist.

Good for you. Not liking communists is good thing.

Slappy His funeral may be more attended than Ghandi's.

Yes but not by himself, we must help.

to change oneself is to change the world

Slappy already has I think.

Slappy he's truly a modern prophet. I mean that in the secular sense.

He has the entire planet. Im cleaning my room from Romania.

*and of Germany :D

You sad, sad sack

@@santosd6065 actually you are. Keep following your false prophets teachings. Marxist’s are brainswashed retards who really think that the state is better off instilling some identity to the individual. Just another herd of sheep being lead to the slaughterhouse

@@justinkerrigan5863 Hm. Interesting analysis. In which one of Marx's books or essays does he say that, exactly? Was it the 18th Brumaire or the first volume of Capital? Im sure you're familiar with them all Also, what are your thoughts on the Labor Theory of Value? Of course you remember the concept was taken for granted by Adam Smith and David Ricardo, but quietly abandoned by the late 19th Century economists as they found it inconvenient. So glad to find a well read, insightful guy like you to clarify these things for me! (maybe late you can explain Foucault and Derrida to me... they're kind of jackasses, but nowhere near as scary as this Peterson Benzo head snowflake seems to think they are)

@@santosd6065 lmao, Marxist communism relies on identity politics. The entire premise is that the Proletariat are being attack as a group. And that as a group they should be responsible of everything, because they're the group. That's commie thought 101.

@@santosd6065 Yeah. Yeah we are sad. It’s a devastating thing, actually.

Did he help you get into a misogynistic relationship? That's what he's best at.

Mane what?@@510tuber

​@@510tuber Please read Karl Marx books, and really try to understand them, then rethink your values and which people to mistrust. I was lucky enough, because I learned about all this stuff without any sort of bias. I study business administration in germany, and I first encountered marxism in my social economics class (a class in which you learn what kind of systems exist in the world, what ideas first came up a couple hundred years ago, and which have stuck around til now). First of all, you can't see the world as black and white as I suspect you do right now, and second, marxism is NOT GOOD for anyone long term. People have tried it, again and again. And thinking that you somehow would be able to implement a better version of that system, is the purest form of narcissism there is, given that very smart people in very different positions have tried it multiple different times, with HORRIFIC results. Similar to how a purely free market is one of the most unjust things possible morally speaking. So I beg you, DO NOT advocate for ideologies, and don't try to make people feel bad for trying to educate themselves!!!

Tyrion Kenway Wrynn By my estimation that would make it top 6.

ephphatha230 that ABZURD!

(complex idea) as such

PartiZAn18 Right!

ephphatha230 ROUGHLY SPEAKING

Thanks fam.

Johnny Heart Intro is surprisingly good and concise- give it a try

Johnny Heart the intro was good though

Johnny Heart thank God for your time stamp, had to cut through that jaggoff intro

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mrdanneskjold I think Gad Saad deserves some more recognition, too. I wouldn't call him a savior, but he's one of the soldiers of reason leading the charge.

Not if we don't get off our ass and help.

I know what your name is a reference to.

Phil King from post-modern neomarxism, you dope

Frankfurt school philosophy, I agree with you completely mrdanneskjold.

Post-modern perspectives are fundamentally incompatible with science, which is my field (post-graduate neurobiology, plus side interests in other disciplines). According to political tests, I am mostly middle-left classic liberal, but in reality I've tried to cultivate an attitude of "let each idea stand or fall on merit" (that is, what conclusions do established facts and reason lead to?). I don't pretend I'm doing anything other than attempting to live up to that, because I know humans are good at fooling themselves. Any conclusion I come to, I try to hold on to it lightly in case new evidence is presented. I have been wrong about some things in the past, I will be wrong about some things in the future. On the basis of what I am seeing so far, I have slowly and reluctantly come to the conclusion that the post-modern movement is one of the most serious threats to human civilisation since the 1930's. Because once education is corrupted, all the foundations of civilisation will crumble within a few generations. By comparison, Donald Trump is merely (George W. Bush Jr.)² and, I think, is being exploited as the Reichstag Fire by the post-modernists (although, yes, he really is an incompetent, dangerous fool). Post-modern social theories are hauntingly similar to caste systems, apartheid, Lysenkoism and Deutsche Physik. Most of the evidence I see for such conclusions is produced by the post-modernists themselves: in journals, in newspaper articles, in social media posts. They have written their Mein Kampf, so we know what they are up to. No third party commentary is required to reach this conclusion. Watching so many people pat themselves on the back for taking part in the trendy new racism, sexism and hate speech of our times (while sincerely believing themselves to be free of and fighting against sexism/racism/hatred) is extremely unsettling, to say the least. Most people look at the superficial wrapping of "human rights advocacy" and look no deeper. For this reason, it is trivial to convince them that being opposed to post-modernism is the same as being opposed to human rights.

​@@paulcoddington664 sorry, Paul, but Trump is nothing like W Bush. Don't be so partisan that you can't differentiate. It's more like comparing Hannibal Lector to Gomer Pyle . the later is too stupid to be cynical and was just a hapless tool of corrupt snakes like Dick Cheney-who even most Republicans despised. there IS a two party dictatorship and if you think the Democrats aren't part of it,then you are a "useful fool".

Oh, it gets worse than that. In University, I've heard professors prop up Salinsky as some kind of Patron Saint of social justice, and the reality is that he was just some manipulative pseduo-intellectual who likely fancied himself in the Marx-Marcuse-Derrida tribe of leftist intellectuals when he was, at best, the half-eaten stale cracker on the plate at their dinner parties. Yours in Liberty, A woman who is also fond of Dr. Peterson and his work

Same here. In one of my counseling classes, they started pushing a post-modern view on us to which I objected... and then they simply doubled down on their neo-marxist attempted indoctrination. It actually really upset me because I objected in a very logical and polite way, yet got met with such a lackluster response.

What did she reply?

Other than ethically, morally, intellectually, emotionally and practically, the philosophy is right!

More like a whole house.

Please enlighten me to your reasoning and where you disagree and why

That has to stop. Now. When the posmodernist id website goes up, we'll address that too.

belleobscurytee I'm joining the Canadian forces soon and you are forced to sit through a transgender sensitivity course.

High school students need to be aware of these required courses so they can select the least post modern marxist universities to attend.

Yeah all the people becoming teachers at the university I am attending are required to take Edthp 115, which during the school year is only taught by a professor that believes in equality of outcome.

Dr. Peterson, I encountered this dilemma when I transferred to DePaul University in Chicago, IL. Fortunately, I began my studies at a small college in Houston, Texas (University of St. Thomas). This school placed a strong emphasis on classical education and was steeped in Aristotelian virtue ethics. Having studied Greek and Scholastic philosophy, I found myself less susceptible to the pernicious reprogramming at DePaul. Yet I couldn’t help but feel sympathy for those incoming Freshman, lacking the necessary tools to understand what was happening. When I transferred, I was told that all incoming Freshman and transfer students must take a “multiculturalism” course. I selected the most moderate looking course (something about “multicultural Chicago"). However, on day one of the class I was informed that it had been changed to “Understanding Race and Racism.” I was then told that all the other courses were either filled or cancelled. Thus, I was forced to spend an entire semester learning exactly what you have been talking about. Praise God I had the background to see through the professor’s agenda. In a way, I am grateful for the experience, because I know the truth of what you are saying first hand.

Wow. You watched this really fast!

You didn't even watch this

There is footage of this speech before Peterson uploaded it. This happened like a week ago.

making a cult around a guy who is supposedly against cults.

true!

U, Rachel have been woken.

Rachel Adjeleian Do you still feel this way? Did he seem invulnerable at that time? The audience response in this video, combined with your own three years ago, indicates the growth of a personality cult. This was not good for Peterson, nor was it good for anyone else. (Psalm 146:3) 'Do not trust in princes, in mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.'

@@jesusislordsavior6343 I haven't rewatched the video so I'm not sure - but much has changed since 3 years ago in my life and I have actually since accepted Jesus as my Lord and Saviour, to your delight I would assume :) I agree that it became a personality cult! We as Christians need to watch who we are idolizing and see the bigger picture when figures like Jordan Peterson come on to the scene. I think much of what he has said is very valuable, but to many people (including myself) he definitely became more than someone who offers good advice and insight into different topics.

@@RachelAdjeleian As you knew would happen, I am simply delighted to hear from you, to know about your new life in the Lord, and to see your eloquent remarks. God bless you.

It's nice to see that he's slowly coming back to the public scene. For a long time he was my favorite modern writer and speaker. I'd like to know if he would still agree with his older speeches.

scary

That's the problem, people need to be informed as to what the nature of the degree they are buying with their time and money before they decide on which degree or university to attend.

I also hope Dr Peterson is taking appropriate care of himself. I worry he'll burn himself out. What he is saying may not be Ultimate Truth, but he's presenting information in a way that gets people really, truly thinking. What's more, people are acting in response to his words, no matter how minute the action. Dr P is important because he speaks in a way people understand, whether they agree or not.

Rebecca O'Brien The only people who don't like him are the ones he's going after, gutless cowardly marxists. They won't go near him, and it's obvious why.

They won't go near him in an intellectual debate, but they will surround him and call him a nazi and blow airhorns. I doubt the latter is more healthy for one's psyche than the former.

Becky O'Brien I agree he sounded very out of sorts here.

Peterson doesn't understand Marxism or postmodernism on a fundamental level. Postmodernism by all definitions is a metaphysical idea guided by time as a nonlinear abstract, whereas Marxism confines itself directly to the physical world. This is the main conflict between these ideologies and why a person can't reasonably be either. Actual postmodernists and actual Marxists are very antagonistic toward one another. But this is one in a very long line of Peterson pretending to understand things that he doesn't have a clue about, be it biology, anthropology, history, gender studies, etc.

Are we present and (politically in-) correct, eh?

Present!

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SEMB1Ky2n1E.html

paperEATER101 Jonathan Haidt brings up an interesting aspect on the subject in The Righteous Mind, in particular how the extreme left people in general tend to lack the understanding of certain moral values, what i mean is its not necessarily about agreeing, but to be able to comprehend certain positions, which, to really oversimplify it, enables people to have a conversation about the disagreement. Now we are all subject to this, and it's possible to program people into this, whether it be on purpose or, which is probably usually the case, as a result of pathological altruism based on some really faulty understanding. Anyway... This data coupled with the knowledge of how the brain works, i.e. combining long term memory with the thinking part of the brain, and how a well programmed long term memory can render it completely resistant to conflicting ideas, might give you some hints on how to work on a cure for this mind virus. Basically you need to reach the thinking part, which enables it to hold conflicting ideas, sort of nudge and massage that part, similarly to training a muscle, and hopefully a healthy brain should start functioning again, simply through questioning its own sincerity. Maybe ;) I hope :-P

Audio book is also on youtube.

You're welcome :D

Yesica1993 you should read Ryan Jaunzemis' Pro Soaper, same idea

Have you? It's 1500 pages and not as convincing as you seem to think.

Two Hundread Years Together

Damn, I thought it's only me :D

Can you people not sit STILL and listen!

You finished yet?

Europe is dead, and the corpse is beginning to stink.

You can't just give up a one of few centers of civilization and freedom in the world!

His wife has more testicles and is obviously a lesbian.

I'll do it.

Zuriel it's become my Sunday afternoon ritual

I like living in chaos.

50+ lb gone.

Zuriel I cleaned my entire apartment.

Zuriel Well actually I was sick but I was only sick because I lied about being sick to get out of something that I hadnt properly prepared for and felt uncomfortable about it and wanted more time and its because I avoid responsibility and dont want to do any hard work so I suppose I should stop avoiding responsibility, so I can stop lying and then being sick to validate my lies about being sick to avoid responsibility.

You get a loud hallelujah from this mom whom is 4 years deep into fighting to get qn iep in place my children.

Its like he called it but nobody listened!

It aint silver its truth. Hes a peace maker. Blessed are the peace makers.

Listen to more of him, read more, and start writing. He didn't wake up like that one day