2017 Best Motorcycle Lithium Battery? (And why it's not Shorai!)

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LIPH battery is one of the most tolerant class of batteries to use in your motor vehicle. With new technology rolling out, it is becoming safer to begin adopting this techonology and reap the significant benefits in the form of larger cranking amps and significantly less weight. It has become safe to the point that oem industries such as Ducati and Honda started adopting and selling motorcycles equipped with lithium batteries at the dealership.
If you go on to forums and ask which lithium battery brand to buy, I can bet you the majority would said Shorai. While Shorai has been around for almost as early as lithium batteries became available for motorcycles, there are several reasons why they are no longer the best choice and why OEM industries such as Ducati and Honda did not sign a contract with them to supply higher end model bikes with their lithium batteries. For a disposable commodity such as a motorcycle battery, you do not get the best value (and technology) with Shorai per dollar spent. Instead, Ducati and Honda have adopted lithium technology from Skyrich batteries which is owned by the parent company HangZhou HaiJu Holding Ltd. and the makers of other big name battery brands such as Deltran Battery, WPS, Shido, Magneti Marelli etc. All of these newer batteries incorporate an intergrated circuit and battery monitoring system (BMS) on board the battery so charge/discharge is monitored safely and ensures the cells are balanced. Shorai, on the other hand, still required a dedicated balance charger. With that said, however, all lithium batteries are still less robust to abuse and misuse compared to lead acid. Extra care must always be taken when using lithium phosphate batteries.
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@TheSagerider 4 года назад

Just bought one of these for my 2007 Ducati 1098. :) I had bought a sealed lead acid battery and it came leaking acid. Got it replaced and it was leaking too. :( neither one would hold a charge even though they were on a battery tender. Ducati uses a security system that put a constant drain on the battery so for storage you need to have it connected to a tender and plugged in. A big problem with the 1098 is the bazillion small screws that need to be removed to get the bodywork off just to get to the battery. With the correct lithium charger I am hoping this one will last. Thanks for your video! :)

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Awesome! Try not to leave the battery in the cold and when placed in storage, do not exceed 60-70% of the battery charge to prolong the life of the lithium cells.

@zeroboyrick1717 Год назад

I've used Shorai for 10+ years with excellent service so I wouldn't use another brand. I have looked at other brands and the Shorai has a quality look and feel to it that others don't have. Yes, others look cheesy in comparison. Can't judge a book by its cover but it's a good sign. I also have the Shorai charger. It has a store mode that keeps the battery between 60-80% charge which prolongs battery life. For what it's worth, the plug on the Shorai charger has separate pins so it can balance the cells. This type of plug is very familiar as R/C batteries use this same type to balance the cells in battery packs. It's critical for peak performance, ask anybody with R/C battery experience. One last thing; common to lithium batteries is the wind up then the pitch. Turn on your ignition for 7-10 seconds before hitting your starter.

@charliedee9276 4 года назад

Thanks for the video. I am ready to get a battery for my 1974 Harley Sportster, I went to electric from kick start only. I put a modern starter on it, 1.4kW that requires around 250cca, I have been looking at Anti Gravity and Shorei but I saw this video and now have to check it out. The fact it has a BMS onboard caught my attention, I mess with ebikes and am well familiar with how the BMS protects the battery.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@mikeeyg1977 3 года назад

Charlie Dee.. What DoD you end up getting. Antigravity?

@chrisphilhower6029 5 лет назад

I had a Western Lithium in a 2010 Yamaha Majesty. It worked Great. Even in the winter. Still in the bike when I traded.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

How cold were your winters?

@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884 4 года назад

I see was 3 years ago and was hard to find now. How did it last for you? Also can you get these for 50cc scoots I have prebug Zuma 50

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

It lasted fine, but here where I live temperatures can get as cold as -40C and +40C. This is extremely detrimental to lithium cells. Therefore stricter care is required to protect the battery health including removing the battery from the vehicle over winter, maintaining 60-70% charge. and ensuring proper air circulation during the summer.

@HalfdeadRider 5 лет назад

I have the Oxford 601 trickle charger, are you sure that will be fine to charge these, I have the Shido LTX9-BS Sounds like you know what you're talking about, but sites like AFAM say these need a special charger, it's possible they have out of date information somehow I guess.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

According to the main manufacturer HuangZhou lithium batteries, the BMS on board these batteries should be able to handle normal charger PROVIDED it doesn't have desulfating mode. However, reports have started to surface primarily from riders who ride daily to and from work in all sorts of weather that the BMS isn't the best quality. One user reported that after 3 years of constant use, the battery appeared dead. Taking apart the battery and balance charging each cell with a dedicate RC lithium balance charger brought the battery back to life.

@HalfdeadRider 5 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil Thanks for that information mate. I also heard not to charge with chargers that charge over something like 14v, my optimiser/trickle charger charges up to 14.1v, I think it might possibly be best to get a charger made for Lithium batteries to be safest? I guess they don't have a balance cable/socket like Shorai as they don't need balancing in newer technology? I think it would be ok to charge for a little while on a conventional optimiser/trickle charger if kept an eye on, and taken off once charged enough and before it's charged to much. I won't be leaving it on overnight for sure :)

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

@@HalfdeadRider The same theory for cell phone lithium batteries apply to Lithium iron phosphate. Avoid overcharge/undercharge and overheat/freeze. The balance cable socket can be found inside the shido/wps/skyrich batteries. They are connected to a BMS. Shorai does not have a BMS, but instead, the dedicated charger Shorai sells performs the same function as a BMS. I've gone through almost three seasons with the WPS battery and it stayed at full charge

@HalfdeadRider 5 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil Thanks again for the info and the quick reply, I've also now found a charger suitable for these batteries with the inbuilt BMS, they seem to make sure they are prepared and charged correctly. TecMate OptiMate Lithium 0.8A Battery Optimiser (SAE) Best price right now in the UK www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/248878?r=GS&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItp_WxrTI4QIVLLHtCh0S4AjBEAQYASABEgKCbPD_BwE Manufacturer UK site and info (costs more there currently) www.optimate.co.uk/products/optimate-08-lithium

@intelin123 6 лет назад

I bought this one for 100 for my 01 busa. I had a bikemaster tru gel that they sent me as warranty . Only lasted 3 days.the other one lasted exactly one year . Bikemasters come with a 2 year warranty. Bikemaster did not care that their battery was garbage. They blamed it on my bike. So dont buy bikemaster. The wps is super light plus more ccas

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

intelin123 awesome! I would be a bit concerned about a new battery failing in 3 days. While the battery may be the problem, it could be equally likely the bike.

@intelin123 6 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil not on my bike. I put a wps lithium battery and started right away. And trew that 3 day old battery from bikemaster away in the damn thrash.

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

not all batteries are made equal, am i right? ;)

@intelin123 6 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil all batteries should last more than 3 days

@selkie20 5 лет назад

can't find any indication that these batteries have a battery management system. Does the voltage indicator on the battery indicate a battery monitoring system?

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

If you seperate the blue lid from the casing, underneath you will find a BMS.

@psych0hans 6 лет назад

Yes, OEM Cycles is great, bought a battery shipped to India, paid just $5 for shipping.

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

Yup!

@adityar981 6 лет назад

Great, now I am going to get one imported too, got tired of Exides and Amarons.

@adarshkeswani2319 6 лет назад

Custom duty ?

@Alokumar005 4 года назад

@@adityar981 I AM PLANNING TO MAKE LITHIUM MOTOR BIKE BATTERY FROM NEXT MONTH, i am from kolkata

@Jonathan-L 4 года назад

I am pretty sure that SSB PowerSport lithium batteries are also made by Skyrich.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Good to know!

@tjj6583 3 года назад

Okay, cheaper charger but what it makes it better than Shorai? Shorai makes 4 stacked cells for better cooling. Does is have circuit board for overchanging and dischaging the battery. What is the max voltage that it can take from a regulator. What Shorai, EarthX, AntiGravity makes smaller batteries that fit custom cafe racers and bobbers. Places where you cant fit a standard battery.

@FIFTYmil 3 года назад

Good points, if a custom sizing is needed you will have the pay the premium. In contrast, however, what is the cost of a shorai and how much longer is it's life expectancy compared to a $100 WPS? Also assuming nothing else such as your voltage regulator fails which commonly happens?

@jadabell894 6 лет назад

Do you know if Hangzhou also manufacturers MMG brand? Thanks for all the knowledge!

@jonvelde5730 3 года назад

Antigravity Batteries. They have the BMS system, and also some other fearures.

@FIFTYmil 3 года назад

Seems like a great brand, but just like many american companies they exploit cheap chinese material, slap on some expensive american QC, and mark up the prices to heaven. Nothing bad with that if you can afford it but batteries are disposables/consumables and I don't expect the life expetancy to be much greater than conventional oem spec'd lead acid.

@jetsonparker5165 5 лет назад

Not sure you can compare a Lithium Polymer battery (WPS) to a Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery on the simple fact that a LiFePo4 will last a lot longer long term .... isn't it like 300 charge cycles to 2000 charge cycles? Not to mention the safety aspect and the non discharge/shut off?

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Are you suggesting that the WPS battery depicted in this video is not a LiFePo4? Please review the spec sheet again. Thank you.

@SuzukyEN-A 4 года назад

Hello 50 thousand, it is a good option, some people think that lithium batteries discharge quickly because they cannot withstand the heat of the motor, do you have any experience in this regard?, thanks for your good video.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Unfortunately, the climate where I live is rarely hot enough to yield any solid experience/evidence and I mostly ride my motorcycle on the race track where heat soak in stop-and-go traffic is less of an issue. But yes, I do agree that lithium cells are significantly more sensitive to heat than lead acid.

@SuzukyEN-A 4 года назад

@@FIFTYmil sometimes it is a good advantage to live where it is not so hot, thanks

@rayher6918 6 лет назад

awesome research 👍

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@piaflyer 4 года назад

Doesn't last for more than regular lead acid battery and do not put on a trickle charger. Disconnect when storing bike for winter.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

It lasted longer than all my previous lead acid so far. I agree about storing it somewhere warm also.

@calvinwalker3012 3 года назад

I'm looking for a battery for my bike, wat would be the best with good quality for a 250cc? And will the voltage regulator kill it too quickly?

@FIFTYmil 3 года назад

Yes a faulty voltage regulator will kill a lithium battery even faster than a lead acid

@calvinwalker3012 3 года назад

@@FIFTYmil got a new battery, be regulator, still won't crank. Only thing I haven't done is clean the carburetor, haven't had time to work on it

@smark2016 5 лет назад

I just dont know if it fits in my KTM 250sxf 2016... Do you know it? 😬

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

If you go to their website you can put in your bike model and they will pick the right one for you

@Herboutwest 5 лет назад

I got a wps lithium in this new bike i got n it doesn't hold a charge, i charged it on a car charger n it said full but then was dead after the first time i started the bike... am i doing something wrong? Do these go bad?

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Sometimes it could be the battery, but more often it is an issue with the bike such as stator or voltage regulator failure. Also, be wary of what type of charger you use on the battery to avoid decreasing the longevity of the battery.

@UhYeahWhateverDude 5 лет назад

Lead Acid chargers do not charge LI batteries to the same voltage, and should not be used on a LI battery anyway, as the charging algorithm is different. If you didn’t ruin the battery, then it didn’t start the bike because it wasn’t charged enough.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Your statement is vague. What is this "charging algorithm" you mentioned? What voltage should lithium batteries be charged to that make a lead acid charger not suitable? Please explain further the above two points.

@UhYeahWhateverDude 5 лет назад

FIFTYmil It’s not vague at all, you just don’t know what you are talking about. If you don’t understand the basics of how a battery and charger work...why are you making videos with battery recommendations? And if you don’t understand how charging algorithm are different between different types of batteries, then you are way too far behind to get caught up in a RU-vid comment. Go read.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Yes we can bicker all day whether its vague or not...And yet, after all that typing still no evidence to back up your claims about these postulated "algorithms" and "different voltages," = "stick to Lithium chargers."

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

You are misleading people in this video. You're literally describing the Shorai charging process at 2:17 The Shorai battery only requires a dedicated charger when the battery is very deeply discharged. I personally would prefer to charge my battery from a very low state with a quality balancing charger like a Hyperion (~$200) than the built in BMS on a $100 battery. That being said I have used the same Shorai battery since 2011 and I have never needed to use a balancing charger, just a simple $30 battery tender on the rare occasion that my battery was a little low.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Sorry I disagree. The same method (using a battery tender) is shared across all lithium battery manufacturer as a marketing approach to ease of use as batteries should be considered consumables that has a life expectancy or 3-4 years average. The difference is the presence/absence of a bms which can significantly extend the average life of the battery by maintaining proper input voltage and cell balancing. A bms can also protect a battery from gassing out in the event of a voltage regulator failure found commonly in sport and cruiser bikes. That is why the newer generations of battery such as WPS does not need an additional cell balance port on their batteries and/or requirement to purchase an expensive cell balancing charger. This does not take into account the higher asking price of a shorai battery from the start as well.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

What you said in the video is "there is no longer a need for a dedicated charger." You are implying that it is impossible to charge the Shorai without a dedicated charger. I would encourage you to do some reading behind the chemistry of lithium batteries. Lithium iron phosphate (Shorai) batteries are generally safer and have a very constant discharge voltage (when compared with other lithium batteries). Any decent battery should start out with balanced high quality cells and this will greatly reduce the need for any sort of charge balancing (especially in the case of Lithium Iron). You may not be aware of this but the presence of a faulty BMS can cause a complete battery failure. There are many documented battery failures that have been attributed to this.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Sorry, not once in the video does it mention that you can not charge a Shorai without a dedicated charger. That was implied by your own interpretation. As you suggest that WPS and Shorai use different batteries, before we proceed to discussion please state clearly what batteries do you think a WPS battery uses and how it is different from the batteries used in Shorai batteries.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

@@FIFTYmilYour words are "because it's STILL using a dedicated charger" "so there is no longer a NEED for a dedicated charger, you can just charge your battery on a battery tender or on your motorbike as long as there is no desulphation mode." I encourage you to listen to the words in your video and rethink your response. When you say the word NEED that is not even implying that is straight up saying that it needs a dedicated charger.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil I did some digging and it turns out that WPS/Skyrich etc. do use lithium iron phosphate. I was running with the assumption that it was a different style of lithium technology so I stand corrected there. Most sources I have seen only said Lithium Ion Polymer technology so I am pleased to see that these batteries use the safer technology. I'm not sure why they would not advertise that more though.

@me-fv5xb 6 лет назад

are there free mods for honda ruckus?

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

airbox mod and rejet

@huskynox1 4 года назад

Just because a manufacturer chooses a battery doesn't make it correct. Uninformed people can make bad decisions. Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer batteries are unstable. Lithium Iron batteries are the correct choice for motor vehicle applications. Read up on stability between the 3.

@FIFTYmil 3 года назад

and just because you think like an old man you stayed with lead acid. Congratulations.

@mr.mancino 5 лет назад

How many ah have this battery?

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Sorry I can't find any published data on that apart from some sites suggesting 60wHr

@HalfdeadRider 5 лет назад

There are many different specs of these batteries. Look for the one closest to your stock battery I went for the CCA for comparison to get the right one.

@Alokumar005 4 года назад

@@FIFTYmil 60/12=~5Ah battery reserve energy

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

@@Alokumar005 Thanks Alok!

@jadabell894 6 лет назад

Do you know if Hangzhou also manufacturers MMG brand? Thanks for all the knowledge!

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

I have never heard of MMG but you're right they do look similar!

@richardballinger517 Год назад

Just looking at a Bosch BLP9 & 14 for my bikes. They look exactly the same.

@achristian7015 Год назад

Why would I bother when my factory battery lasts over 8 years.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

I am more concerned with the quality of the cells on a battery than the inclusion of a BMS. Not saying either battery is better or worse but to actually know which battery is better than this is a topic that should be covered. A low quality battery will require a BMS where a high quality battery with better cells may not need one. A cheap Chinese BMS is not expensive, while a quality Japanese battery cell (which is what we are paying for) is very expensive vs a low quality cell.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

You raise a good point. It is possible that despite the same casing used and coming from the same manufacturer, WPS uses poorer quality lithium batteries than oem backed Skyrich. However, this video illustrates that for the asking price of a WPS equipped with BMS, it is much better than other more american known brands like Shorai without BMS which is nearly double to triple the price. A battery with good quality cells can be easily ruined without a proper bms and proper care far quicker than a battery with a average quality cells but with a proper bms and good maintenance care. For example, if you plugged in a 20V charger or have a faulty voltage regulator on your bike to a Shorai (without bms), it would probably overcharge the battery that same day and stop working immediately (imagine while riding on the road). In contrast using the same charger on a battery equipped with bms might save the batteries from being overcharged. Regardless poor or good quality battery they all suffer from the same weakness found in lithium batteries to cold, overcharging, undercharging, and excessive heat. Some other points 1) Shorai does not indicate their source of battery cells therefore we don't know if they are good or bad quality cells 2) Neither does Skyrich (or WPS in this video). However, we know that they have signed a contract deal with oem companies like Ducati, Honda, BMW and Yamaha. Shorai, on the otherhand was unsuccessful. This speaks volume about the size and magnitude of the respective companies working with oem motorcycle manufacturers.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

Shorai and WPS/Skyrich use different Lithium chemistry. We are talking about Lithium batteries with different chemical properties so yes there are many differences. Again I would encourage you to research battery chemistry. Lithium iron phosphate batteries have a advantage in chemical and thermal stability as well as offering a longer cycle life. A defective BMS (I would expect a higher failure rate from a Chinese product vs American/European/Japanese) will cause a catastrophic battery failure. I would expect a voltage regulator on a bike to be more reliable than a cheap BMS made in China. That said if we assume the failure rates between the two are even then your point is still invalid because at some point one will fail and issues with both will be unavoidable. Do you have a 20V charger that can be connected to a motorcycle battery? I have never seen anyone with one so I would say that would be a very rare occurrence. Other points: 1) I would agree that it would be good to know the source of the battery cells but we know more (albeit only a little) about the chemical makeup of a Shorai vs Skyrich 2) In no way whatsoever does a contract deal with an oem constitute a higher quality product. I will say that yes this definitely adds to the credibility of a manufacturer but it does not represent how 'good' a product actually is. A large part of the decision making at the oem level boils down to cost, if it gets the job done at a lower price point I would expect an oem to choose the most cost effective option. 3) I appreciate the effort you put in to find more about Skyrich/WPS. I was considering one of these batteries for my dads snowblower since I've had success with my Shorai but decided against it mainly because of the cold weather performance and cost vs lead acid. I'm definitely not against the Skyrich battery and might give one a try if I manage to kill my Shorai seeing as there is a large price difference between the two.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Before I read the rest of the response, I was stopped by the first sentence. Please indicate what lithium chemistry is used by WPS and how is it different from Shorai with a link to a credible source.

@kitkeyser 5 лет назад

@@FIFTYmil I appreciate you for calling me out on that. I assumed wrong as most listings for the batteries only said Lithium Ion Polymer technology, which is a very generic statement. Turns out that both Shorai and Skyrich/WPS are using the same lithium chemistry. www.skyrichbattery.com/p9/Frequently-Asked-Questions/pages.html Although this makes a lot of what I was saying invalid I'm glad that I was able to find the information. Knowing the battery chemistry and that Skyrich is providing this information makes me much more interested in trying one out. The other parts of the response are still valid though.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Second point : Voltage regulator failure rate is extremely high on motorcycles, particular sport bikes and some cruisers. It is well documented on nearly most forums. Personally I know it is a common issue amongst Suzuki GSXR, Ducati 1098, and Aprilia RSV4. In the event of a VR failure, the presence of a BMS would be added insurance. A shorai, which costs significantly more than a WPS/Skyrich and without a BMS makes it not a financially good investment. Third Point: Indeed 20V chargers are not commonly available for cars/motorcycles, but it is quite frequent that consumer level chargers are not precise with their output voltage to drive down the cost of chargers for consumers and because lead acid batteries are less sensitive to voltage fluctuations. On the other hand, anything above 14V is quite detrimental to a Lithium battery especially when there is no BMS. Fourth Point: There is no credible source stating that OEM decision largely boils down to cost. Therefore that is merely your opinion. The legal implications, lawsuits and warranties/recalls associated with a battery failure would be catastrophic to a company's reputation, stocks, and finance. Imagine the news heading: Ducati Bikes have batteries that spontaneously explodes

@braddavies137 4 года назад

Just had my 2nd shorai puke out. Both had failed in less than a year.

@tylerwalker8499 4 года назад

Hey, I like my free batteries from shorai! :)

@braddavies137 4 года назад

Tyler Walker after my first replacement I was over having to get another lol. Trying the antigravity out, I don’t want to be stranded. I expected shorai to be better

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

@@braddavies137 Given how frequent your battery failed, the symptoms seem to suggest a failing regulator. stator, or other parts of your charging system on your motorcycle. Alternatively, it could be poor quality cells from Shorai or user neglect but I doubt that.

@mikeeyg1977 3 года назад

@@braddavies137 Did you try an Antigravity? How's it working out?

@atvrider43 3 года назад

@@mikeeyg1977 so far so good!

@jamespolucha8790 3 года назад

Skyrich battery is what came in my 2018 husqvarna and I found out that they all are made by the company in China which is ok, I remember a long time ago nobody wanted anything made in Japan now everyone wants Japanese products, same with China nobody wants it but that will change, there are only a few companies that make batteries anyway, my Skyrich battery lasted 4 hard years so I think you will be just fine

@FIFTYmil 3 года назад

Well said, and the fact that most quality products you buy these days are also made in China. Certainly no one would reject a Apple Iphone because it was made in China?

@Oblivionsurveyor 4 года назад

The only thing that concerns me is that manufacturer mentions nothing that would even hint at an onboard BMS. I would be willing bet any circuitry you see under the cover is simply for the LED test light and does not actually have a BMS function. I have found a new brand called FLY POWER, I haven't tried it yet with no reviews but all the options you want are there. I think im going to get it, just hate being a guinea pig.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

I do agree, specific technical information is quite hard to find. However, even with the best BMS, if the cells are subpar the battery will have a short lifespan.

@Oblivionsurveyor 4 года назад

@@FIFTYmil ended up buying a bikemaster lithium battery for 65$ on amazon.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

@@Oblivionsurveyor Let me know how it goes!

@Oblivionsurveyor 4 года назад

@@FIFTYmil Installed it, runs good. I have noticed my bike starts in less cycles of the engine now. So far I am impressed. Time will tell.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

@@Oblivionsurveyor Totally. Love the huge boost in cca

@markkiger5219 4 года назад

Wondering why no mention of Antigravity batteries. Seem to be the standard on most forums. Thanks.

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

That is a very good point. When this video was made (3 years ago), Antigravity was not well known across multiple forums I visited(eg. ducati, suzuki, honda, kawasaki etc.). That was because they were significantly more expensive than US-based brands including Shorai - with no significant advantage. Due to a smaller population using Antigravity, consumers (on often those who purchased Antigravity) could be biased to believe that failure rate was less than Shorai. It was evident that Antigravity struggled in the market and needed a re-design. With Antigravity's new design (RE-START) and reduction in cost (made in China), they have certainly become more popular. However, their casing and model nomenclature are identical to Deltran Battery Tender company. Except Deltran was already in the market 3 years ago and received supplies from Huangzhou batteries - the mother company of WPS, OEM supported SkyRich Batteries (ducati, Honda, Kawasaki), and many others. This begs the question, are all these different branded batteries (WPS, OEM supported SkyRich, Deltran, Antigravity, etc) now coming from the same source?

@briankeith757 6 лет назад

Shorai makes a dedicated charger for thier batteries but you don't need it .I would say that's a maketing scheme .....I bought the Shorai battery and optimate 1 duo charger that can charge. 12v +12.8v (lithium) 12v AGM 12v GEL 12v STD 12.8v LFP This charger was recommended by my dealership

@JoeKickass324 7 лет назад

its been a while my friend! but not a scooter

@FIFTYmil 7 лет назад

It's been a while indeed! This applies to scooters too. The best part is scooter lithium batteries are considerably cheaper too but you can still reap the benefits of lighter weight and more cranking amps. Might be a good alternative to ditch that heavy kickstarter assembly once and for all

@FIFTYmil 7 лет назад

I reckon it would be anywhere between 5-10lbs saving PLUS the fact that lithium can deliver electricity more instantaneously ensuring a better spark. This might not be noticeable on a larger engine but on a 50cc carbureted engine a better spark could be that final bit of power you just need.

@MrDrivesafe 4 года назад

Very helpful video , thank you👍 I'd like to do as you did and find a wps battery that is the most powerful that will fit in the stock location. What website did you use to get the wps battery dimensions?

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

On the ebay website, it lists the dimensions. You can also find the measurements on the WPS website as well hope that helps!

@jacobhendrickson8935 5 лет назад

Active battery management electronics are the most important thing to have in a lithium motorcycle battery because it keeps the cells balanced. Many of the top brands do not have this.

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Exactly. Shorai being one of them.

@evstudios9309 4 года назад

so how did it perform after 3 years? Still in the bike?

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Yep, still in the bike. Regarding the motorcycle, however, it has seen much less use on road and mostly trackdays during the summer. The battery is removed from the motorcycle whenever it is parked for long periods of time.

@Tommy-OB 4 года назад

Thank you for this information :)

@FIFTYmil 4 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@jorge1988 5 лет назад

No because u didnt start it

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Sorry I don't understand what you're saying.

@passyourdrugtest420 6 лет назад

"firepower" looks like same battery as well

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

Very cool. More and more brands are popping up it seems sharing the same oem manufacturer (and probably different quality). Ideally I wish I could get the same brand as OEM ducati which is Skyrich but it is not available for sale in Canada unless you go directly to the ducati dealership to purchase it.

@iwilrage 5 лет назад

Will this work with harley bikes?

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

Yes

@megastick9324 3 года назад

I use antigravity, made in USA. but they work on all my wife and my bikes. The key is make sure your charge system is good BEFORE putting in a lithium. This is probably the biggest issue, people don’t follow instructions. On my FLH, the battery is 1/3 the size of stock , but puts out 480 cca.

@stevericci3308 6 лет назад

Does it start faster

@FIFTYmil 6 лет назад

It starts way faster and stronger. Stay tuned for the review video!

@jacobhendrickson8935 5 лет назад

I have never found any info showing the wps having active imbedded battery management system. Where did you see this info??

@FIFTYmil 5 лет назад

It is published on their website. I have taken apart one myself and found the internals to be the same as the parent company skyrich. Here's a video illustrating the BMS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fKYU16Iivw4.html