2017 Ford F250 Gas vs Diesel - Which one do you REALLY need? 

I got the diesel because I wanted it, not because I needed it. Sweetest truck I've ever driven. Payment sucks. Maintenance costs suck. Still cheaper than a trophy wife.

Ive been running F-2,3, and 450's for 20 years, and hard. Most reliable truck in the oil patch. They have all been diesels.

One topic that wasnt mentioned were issues dealing with relatively light use of the truck. In addition to the increased expense of oil changes and fuel filters on the diesel, there's also maintenance required on the EGR system because of soot. Additionally, light use/stop and go/daily driver use of the diesel will cause problems with the diesel particulate filter, which basically operates like a self cleaning oven requiring very high temperatures. If the temperatures don't get high enough, the filter starts to get clogged and has to do a regen mode. Bottom line, if you are not doing heavy towing and extended high speed use, you could have problems.

I purchased a f250 gas and was stuck between getting a gas or diesel. I eventually picked gas and have been absolutely enjoying the performance. The points you pointed out is very true. If you don't have a purpose as to the power and needing it as to towing capicity, the gas will do the job. Besides the up keep as to cost is really a pocket breaker. Be Ready for High Cost with diesiel. Good Informative Video and Pointers.

after 4 diesels best I can say is have 12G in your pocket at all times and at least 3 buddy's with winches on there trailer! get the 6.2 with 4.30s and if you really over 16,500 get a peterbilt

I appreciate very much that you don't sound like the typical Ford salesman trying to shake out every last penny from the customers. You're actually giving us an honest side by side comparison. Last year, I purchased a 2016 F350, DRW, RWD, 6.2 gas, 3.73. The purpose it serves is hauling a 5000 pound truck camper for 4-7 days per month. If I ever pull a trailer, it will either be a U-Haul or a boat. So while I needed the dually package for heavy payload, my combined weight is low. MPG isn't much of a factor for me because I only drive it about 3000 miles per year. Having the weight of the camper and no off-roading, I have no need for 4wd. I also appreciate seeing extra room under the hood, (unlike diesel where it's too crowded). But most of all, as a truck driver, my decision to go with the 6.2 comes from exhaust filter problems I've seen with some of the trucks I've driven. My only regret is the 3.73 rear end.

These modern trucks have reached the engineering level where the tires are the limiting factor in what you can tow. A 5th wheel puts a solid 20% of the trailer weight min almost squarely over the rear axle. A conventional trailer with weight distribution gear will put 12-15% of the trailer weight on the truck, and a decent portion will transfer to the front axle. That's why you are starting to see higher weight ratings for pulling conventional trailers vs. 5th wheels.

Just as appoint of reference, the powertrain warranty on the 6.7 is 5 yr, 60,000 miles. Only the engine itself is 5 yr/ 100,000 miles.

Recently was dealing with the same questions all across-the-board. I was starting off with a 2016 F150 with a 3.5 L TwinTurbo motor. Wow only halfway through my line I was already in the 90,000 mile range. I thought it best that I tell a trailer every once in a while to upgrade to a larger truck and for the sake that I just love the stance of the F250. Nevertheless with discounts and rebates in a great dealership I was able to get my payments down within $100 of my original payment for twice the truck and a 2019 F250 6.2 L V8. I will say I am overwhelmed with how much I love this truck.. I took a lot of grief for my selection and felt like everybody slam me for not going with a diesel but I would say to everyone else it’s easier to spend someone else’s money and at the end of the day I am not dragging a skid loader or farm equipment I drive this thing around like it’s my mobile office and when it comes to gas that’s one of my biggest expenses so at this point I’ll stick with my selection and I am very pleased!

Here's my thoughts, the 6.2l has been a very reliable engine, some hot shot drivers have half a million miles on them, with nothing more than basic maintenance and following Fords recommended service. The 6.7L has some quirks with the DEF heaters going out and that's about it. 11-12 had turbo bearing issues, but that was resolved. You can get 15mpg worth the 6.2 but you can get 20mpg with the 6.7 both empty.

For me the gas engines do the job. Even my current 1998 f150 that's getting 13 mpg but I will be getting a diesel for my next truck even though I don't need it

I've had both a 2016 f350 dually and a 2018 f250 gas both were superdutys. and I would definitely buy another (gas) one. To much maintenance on the diesel and I hated adding that deff fuel.

I have the 6.2L gas and for towing my 8,800 lbs trailer in does very well. I'm getting about 21 mpg highway solo and 12 mpg towing.

Diesels are like motorcycles....don't bother getting one unless you plan on doing the work Yourself, cause it's expensive.

Heavy towing, lot's of miles get the diesel, lower lb. towing, less miles get the gas.

Really impressed with MPG on the diesel vs the gas.

I have multiple 6.2L trucks and multiple 6.7L trucks. If you don't tow almost every day with the 6.7L plan on putting new exhaust and egr cooler at 150k miles or delete it. If you tow with the 6.2 every day you will replace the transmission at 150k miles. I have had 5 of each and never had an engine come apart on either. 99% of people that buy diesels don't need them. They just make them more expensive for the guys like me that actually do need them.

My dad has both a 1995 F-350 5.8 and a 2015 F-150 5.0. While his F-350 is a rust bucket now, when it was his daily driver it did everything he needed it to. Pulled his boat, hauled firewood, plowed snow more than anything in recent years, and hauled many car parts. His F-150, while it is only his weekend cruiser since he dailies a 2000 Tahoe. However, it gets decent fuel economy for a full-size crew cab pickup. We have hauled occasional heavy loads in the bed and pulled his boat once, did just fine.

For me it would depend on what I needed the truck for. If I'm consistently towing over 10-12k lbs on a regular basis, then give me the diesel. If I'm just looking for some flashy lifted 4x4 to ride around in, then a gas engine will do everything I need. Same as if I'm buying an F-250 to use for plowing snow; the 6.2 is more than capable for most peoples' needs and is a very good engine. A 6.2 will tow 8-10,000 lbs all day long, and do it on regular 87 octane. Anything more than that, consider the 6.7 diesel. I know a couple guys that have the 6.2 and none of them are sorry they bought it!

Thank you for emphasizing mpg on both. I know this video is older but I just saw it now since I’m looking for this type of info on the f250. How bout doing one on the 2020-2021 and include the 7.3 gas truck in the mix.

@Big Truck Big RV made a good point regarding the F150 vs the F250. If you're actually planning on towing heavy weight (over 10k) the extra mass, and heavier suspension of the 3/4 ton will make the trailer more controllable.

Really? That video covered everything we need to know between Ford Super Duty Gas and Diesel engine? I hope the people choosing gas for towing and hauling enjoy listening to the transmission searching for the proper gear and the sound of the engine scream while turning the high RPMs in the mountains. I've been there and done that with a Triton V-10. If I was trying to save money I wouldn't of purchased a fifth wheel and another truck. Here's a thought, the BEST truck for a person in Florida isn't going to be the BEST truck for the person who climbs the Colorado Rockies.

Really appreciate your honesty and objectivity with your presentations: the Dealership you work at is very lucky to have you on staff! RnMT

I have a 2015 F-350 Crew Cab, Diesel Dually, 6.7liter, twin turbo, 4:10 rear with an 8' bed. My truck has power whenever you need it and does around 13 - 14 mpg while being a quick accelerator at the same time. I wish the interior had less plastic but other than that the Ford is the best hands down. Dodge is right there with the Ford also. Excellent job. Thanks for the video. Great job. Good luck and God bless.

great video. well done. I am for the gas version, due to costs and do not need the higher towing capacity. thanks

I chose an 8.1 Big Block over a Duramax, and I'd do it again.

Thanks for the comparison. today (3/10/17) where I live, to break even on the diesel added costs you would have to drive it more than 220 k miles. these costs are for fuel, oil changes, fuel filters, and DEF (mild driving). A lead foot or towing heavy loads will up this miles to break even. Reliability is another variable that is too iffy to crunch.

and the F450 at 32,500 pounds of towing. very impressive.

With diesel maintenance costs is double; gas 6 quarts of oil vs diesel 12 quarts, gas 1 batterie vs diesel 2 batteries, gas cost less per gallon vs diesel cost more per gallon, gas has no fuel filters vs diesel 2 fuel filters, gas has no def vs diesel needs def refilled regularly.

I'd get the standard gas model and save the $8,000 for fuel, insurance, tires etc.

Great Info! only thing that could make it better is Tow 10,000 Lbs Trailer behind each of them, I know the gas engine will be shifting quite a bit more than the diesel.

I bought the gas 2016 F-250 XL 2 weeks ago. I just wanted a basic truck for camping, hunting, various outdoor activities, and lite towing from time to time. I didn't a fancy luxury truck. My only requirements were that it had 4x4, an 8' bed, cruise control, and an automatic (the wifey hates a standard). I thought of getting the diesel, but I simply couldn't justify spending an extra $9K for an engine. I'm happy with my purchase, although I miss the gas mileage of my Subaru.

Pulling a 30ft. featherlite cattle trailer, with GVW of around 36,000, diesel all the way. By the way, my rear end gear is a 3:70. A 2011 350, dually, more than enough power. It was only $35,500 back then, I did get the 4 outside chrome wheels, spray in bed liner, with a 5th wheel hitch included. Other wise no cab options, vinyl seats. Regular cab. Had one injector go bad on it, it was still under warrantee, but $100 deductible. They are $507 each, + install. I think what happened with it, they over tightened metal bracket that holds it in the engine, because that was broke when they got to it. It didn't blow out of the engine, it was vibrating a little. Recently had one of the back disk brake rotors break, it crushed together, the cooling gap, was able to continue to drive home & about, it did make some disturbing bang sounds when it finally settled down. Other wise no damage to the caliper or pads, which were new a couple months prior.

Great video. I have a 2016 diesel 250. No I don't need it but it makes a statement. I'm the boss and I'm successful is what it says to customers when I roll up. First impressions are everything and this does it very well. If I can get some solid facts that the 2017 gets better mileage than the 16 then I'll buy a new one. Does anyone else know the answer to that? Right now I'm at 14-16 with no trailer. I'd love to hear from anyone that bought one already. Keep up the good work!

Cool book stats, now let's here some actually important information that has experience behind it rather than reading off of a piece of paper that you can find on all the windshields

That 6.2 Gas is a reliable motor I know of one in an E250 van with 560,000 miles on it they have only changed the plugs and coil packs once and had to replace one oxygen sensor in all those miles. running Mobile full synthetic oil changing it every 5000 miles.

Love both of our 6.2L Superduties. We have 2012's. One at 80K and one at 60K Miles. Nothing but gas tires and oil.

Having both gas and diesel at work. And having a f150 (personal truck) now, I’m getting a f250 6.7 because 1 they get better mileage, 2 I like to tow at 80 not 70, 3 I’m only getting the bigger truck to tow with. While the new trailer with 4 horses in it will only weigh in at 16000-17000lb. Fully loaded and a gasser could pull it. The costs of +9k up front and higher maintenance costs are still lower than cost of gas and transmissions, and wearing out your engine at 5000rpms while pulling the hills or fighting head winds in the mid west.

If you’re a buying a 3/4 ton because you occasionally (few times a year/once a month) tow an RV, big boat, or a tractor then go with the gas. If you move stuff like that frequently (weekly/daily) then get a diesel. How long you keep a truck factors too. If you trade trucks every few years you may want to lean gas because it takes roughly 150k miles to recoup that $10-12k extra you spent for the diesel. If you’re going to keep the truck for 250k or more miles then again you may want to consider a diesel.

I own a 2015 F-150. It's absolutely brutal to tow with. Brutal.

it doesnt matter what i need its what i want diesel diesel diesel diesel :D

You can buy a lot of gas for 9,000

1 step that will make all diesels run 100x better is remove the EPA big brother from having any say-so when it comes to truck emissions. No def, no egr, no dpf, no extra bs. Just a strait pipe with a simple muffler.

I bought a 2017 gas F350 in April 2018. Around the time of my purchase , most of the used or new F150's with the longer bed, max payload package, and the max tow package were almost as expensive as a gas basic model Super Duty. Many of the F150's had the older V8 5.0 that guzzles as much gas as the V8 6.2, but delivers less power than the 6.2. Another thing a lot of people don't think about is the ergonomic and visibility advantages to having the larger tow side mirrors that are standard on the Super Duty. I have a cap on my truck and no back window to see out of, so the mirrors really help. I suppose you could put those tow mirrors aftermarket on an F150, but they may not look as good on the smaller truck.

towing is not effected by engine. your vehicles towing capacity is based on safest braking distance, and acceleration. your vehicle will not fail after 15'000 lbs. you will just not safely stop you vehicle in the recommended braking distance by the EPA standards.

If you want a diesel, get an older one like the 7.3 PSD or a 5.9 Cummins. That way you don't have to worry about the modern emissions crap on diesels.

Today's diesels I don't think it's worth it. Too much emissions equipment to go bad and costly repairs. People say yea but look how much better they hold their value but do they really? Let's say they sell for 6-8k more used. Well that's the difference or less than the upcharge you originally paid for the truck. A lot of people get the diesel to say they have a diesel when they don't need it.

Ya know, so many opinions here and much appreciated. I am looking at both right now and I plan to buy a Camper Trailer, about 8,000 lbs. It is a heavy duty camper that I plan to drag to really out of the way places, but it is still only 8,000 lbs. What do you all think about this?? I have an F150 now and think that 8,000 lbs is just a little too heavy.

I bought my diesel because when I was looking around at used duallys, I couldn't find one I liked with the gas Motor, the one that I did look at was 6 years older, wasn't the lariet, and had more miles. Had I found this same dually with the v10 for only a few grand left I definitely would have bought it

Love my '16 6.2. If your towing less than 12k, get the gasser with 4.30's. If your towing more than 12k or tow more than 8k almost daily, get a diesel. 3.73's work, but you will only see a benefit in mileage on the interstate empty, and that's if you have a base model with 17" wheels and small tires. If you get a nicer model with larger factory tires, there is 0 benefit from 3.73's and will actually get worse mileage in town.

I have a 2013 f-350 6.7 diesel love it they need to make them sound like diesels again love mine

Little late but I have a f350 4x2 DRW. Max fifth wheel towing is 16,700 with Regular cab, it is the exact same as conventional towing! With 2300-2500 pounds of payload capacity with same truck different motor will be lost this is across the board with all domestic trucks. Try to stick with gas at all cost! Diesel will only break even if driven 30,000 miles annually! This is factoring in repair cost! If keeping beyond 200,000 miles! Diesel engines of today are mostly a right off! Gas motor with 4.88 Gears works just fine for me

What are your thoughts on next years Super Duty 7.3L GAS 500+ HP and 500+ft-lbs Torque? What will the Payload and Tow capacity?

I just bought the gas model tonight. It gets 15-20 below zero here in SD so I don't need that hassle of diesel. I had a diesel and the oil changes were over 100 bucks, and I always did the fuel filters every year just before winter and that was about 130 bucks. Last year diesel fuel was cheaper than gas for the first time in many years, but I see it back to gas being cheaper. On the plus side for diesel you will get some payback when you trade it so it isn't 8+grand down the drain.

Diesel for sure, you get your investment back on resale, i'm driving my third and driving with this torque is the real benefit no overheating and what about the durability, no gas for me

Good video, I liked that you didn't just downplay the 6.2, you had good things to say about both engines. It seems like many of the comparison videos start off neutral and unbiased and end with them jerking off to the 6.7. Anyways, I have a 2016 6.7 and love it, the power is phenomenal. BUT, it is already having issues that no longer make me confident in the truck. Depending on what the dealer finds this week, I may or may not be trading the truck in for a 2017 6.2. I like that the torque numbers went up for the 2017 6.2 with the cam change and the truck is lighter. In reality I have no need for the diesel, I just chose that engine because I was able to financially but bow I am regretting it bc I'm having issues on a 2016 with 20,000 miles and very meticulous maintenance.

I'm getting the F-350 gas version tomorrow glad I did my research diesel is a little too much for me on maintenance

If you got a 6.0 or a 6.4, you got screwed... too bad. The 6.7 is a keeper... so far, so good. I know the 2014-16's had the PO4DB code... Ford has extended their warranties on this code out to 11 years and 100Kmi. I bought the maintenance agreement... with 3gallon oil changes, etc, I'll make out in the end. 13 gallons anti-freeze... now *thats* a truck!

Nice video. It confirms what I thought and that is for the average trailer or fifth wheel the gas engine should work fine. I have an 03 6.0l diesel F250 4x4 crew cab. Very Pleased with it - no problems with the motor. I have the 3.73 gear and the towing capacity on mine is nowhere near the current model. Even if I had the 4.10 my towing capacity would still be significantly less than the current diesel and even less than the current gas. Having said that, if I had it to do all over again I would not buy the diesel for my use. I would go with the 6.2 if buying today. Initially, fuel was cheaper per gallon than gas, but that is not the case anymore. Also, I have had a couple of occasions while traveling of not being able to find stations that sold diesel and sometimes in towns that have multiple stations. Twice pulled into stations on fumes due to the rarity in some places. Definitely don't want to run out of fuel with diesel. Don't forget the need for the block heater in the cold weather for the diesel By the way the 6.0 takes 14 quarts of oil every time I change it. I get 16 - 18 combined mpg if hubs locked and 18-20 mpg if free. I get 10-12 mpg pulling the fifth wheel (weighs in at 10K plus loaded). The mileage as demonstrated on the video is not enough difference to support the additional output for the diesel for my use.

Buy the gas version. Save the money. I did. My Dodge with the HEMI is plenty powerful for what I do. I Amy so happy with it. great truck. I don't regret not Gettig the diesel option.

Hi, I do have a 2009 4.6. Never again. Trying to switch engine to gasoline, I wish I can cause diesel is a pain in the but. By the way I'm a truck driver since 1996 nothing personal against diesel just not good at all in pickup trucks. Thanks for the video pretty good.

I am pro choice! LOL, but I chose diesel and I recommend it for those that go up steep grades wether recreational or for business, the diesel will outperform the gas any day. Going up hill is like towing twice the weight. Imagine the stress on the gas engine and transmission.

That's exactly the video I was looking for but I'm still undecided! Lol

I would like to see a video on how to work the exhaust brake. I dont get it.

ty my friend, exactly the info I was looking for especially with the 2017 model. you're doing God's work my friend keep up the good work.

i like the more masculine and chiseled lines of this truck and would consider choosing the f250 over the f150. please do a video detailing the all new expedition including first impressions and specs. do you think ford will release a bronco and excursion replacement!

If you calculate the higher cost of diesel along with the urea fluid, the mileage compared to the gas is a complete wash. I've seen many 250k mile gas F250's running strong towing everyday. I would go with a gas, unless you absolutely need the extra torque of the diesel. Honestly, if I were towing 15k lbs everyday, I would buy a bigger truck anyway.

18.8 from an HD truck holy smokes that's good.

I just traded our 2016 F250 Super Cab 8ft bed 6.2L with 3.73 gears in on a 2019 F350 CC short box with the 6.7L diesel, why?...I was sick of getting 7.5-9mpg in the city, plowing snow was like around 4mpg and towing our 8600lb travel trailer it was around 6-6.5mpg and engine screaming on even slight hills trying to go 60mph. I babied this truck and it was a good truck but could not get the mileage you showed. Just picked it up last night and city driving back from the dealer we were getting 15.7 as an average. We plan on getting a 5th wheel travel trailer so to me it was a no brainer.

towing through the rockies, someone told me gas has a hard time vs diesel. what can you tell me?

I have both gas and diesel and 5mpg per gallon adds up! Resale better on diesel. Long term it's a no brainer

One thing to consider is to put a supercharger or turbo kit on a gas engine is going to cost 11k bucks. You can get the diesel for 9k and the resale is higher.

On any modern truck id always go with a gas over a diesel. The ridiculous amount of emissions equipment on diesels these days will just leave more things to break in the future.

I think the shorter bed on the 2017 super duties is 6 and 3/4 apposed to the 6.5’ bed people think it is.

It's been my experience, on Ford's at least, the diesel will get about twice the fuel mileage. They also hold their value more. People complain about the pricey repairs on the diesels. But spend 2k on deletes and you don't have to worry about it. The 6.7 diesel is a good, reliable engine once you get the emission stuff off of it. And not to mention the diesel is a whole lot more capable than the gas engine. Sure not everybody NEEDS the diesel, but it really makes more sense in the long run. I'd also argue it's easier to sell a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck in private market than it is gasoline

Great video, helped me make my purchase decision for my next truck !

Who has $60-70K for a truck? Gas all the way, I would prefer the V10 but you have to step up to the F450 to get it. I've owned/driven multiple diesel trucks. The 7.3 Powerstroke was Ford's best diesel engine. I've had a 5.9 Cummins as well, pulled great and good fuel mileage. The comments about diesel upkeep and repair costs are accurate, I've been there. I've seen friends lose tens of thousands on these new diesels breaking down, I've spent 3x the regular amount for an oil change and all that stuff. That doesn't even factor in the suspension wear from the heavy engine. Unless you're pulling some heavy 5th wheel consistently or excavation stuff there's no practical reason to go with a diesel. I love the power and mileage but it just doesn't pencil out to spend 30% more for those perks. I'll stick with gas motors from now on. I had to search high and low for a V10 crew cab. They're not for sale very often because they're good trucks. You can find plenty of diesels for sale around here, a dime a dozen. Sellers want big $$$ for them and you're playing Russian roulette.

I bought the gas model only because I couldn’t see paying close to 200 bucks for an oil change and the cat additives when I really only tow every now and then

you mentioned that an f150 is rated up to 12000lbs. the advantage a f250 has is that you are not maxing out the gvwr of the truck. f150 could carry the 1200 lbs tongue weight, but not a whole lot more weight can be used for passenger and gear in the box. only gm and Ford make a max tow package on the 1/2 ton trucks. a regular version maxes out the truck with full trailer weight and usually leaves only room for 1 or 2 people in the truck. for instance a tundra crew cab sr5 4x4 has a trailer rating of about 9200 lbs and a load capacity of 1240 lbs. after 920lbs of tongue weight there is only room for 320 lbs of passengers and equipment.

Doing a 12 mile run with no load is pretty much a useless test for these trucks. hook up a 10,000Lbs. GVW trailer, go for a 100 mile run and see what you get for performance and fuel mileage.

If you don't pull a trailer a lot and keep a truck 5 years or more. The diesel will pay for it's self in MPG and then resale. They will also go well over 300k miles if you take care of them. Not a fan of HOT programs but a mild program in the computer will get better MPG and more power. I get around 18.5 MPG in town and 22 on HWY. That is with a light program. Plus the added power, I can pass when I want on a 2 lane road. That's running 35 inch tires.

F250 6.7L Diesel option weighs 500lbs. more than gas 6.2L. Most CC F250 Diesel trucks have no more than 2,000lbs. payload capacity (passengers and cargo are payload) most 5th wheels over 28' have higher pin weights than the Diesel F250's payload ratings. Get a SRW F350 to get 3,000lb. payloads. M275 is F250 rear axle bigger M300 for all F350's axles are different now.

Great video, but it would have also been nice to see the specs for the F-350 SRW.

Do you think that the ride quality between the two engines is noticeable? I have heard that the diesel rides better due to more front end weight.

You need to check you specs from Ford. As a F150 owner towing a 6,000+ pound trailer with a dry curb weight F150 (5820 pounds) already maxes out the GCVW. Then you have tongue weight, full fuel tanks, passengers and gear. I quickly found out why it is dangerous towing with a 1/2 ton with a 6,000+ trailer loaded with gear in 15-20 MPH cross winds. Yes I agree with your stuff on diesel vs gas, but your comments on tow weights for 1/2 tons are dangerous.

I want to see the 2018 Expedition. As soon as you guys get a hands on

I use diesels for work...I have a built 95 7.3 for play and truck pulls...diesel by far

It is a controversial thing on what you really are doing with a pick up truck. I just am satisfied with a F250 extended cab with short bed 6.2 gas truck pulls my 20' car hauler like nothing behind it and plows well.

14.6 mpg gas & 18.8 for the diesel. The may 2018 national average for gas is $2.99 & $3.24 for diesel. I drive like 25,000 miles a year. Roughly a $9,000 upgrade for the diesel. We have the DEF cost & oil changes at 5 per year. It cost about $55.00 more for the diesel change/DEF fill than the gas motor oil change. It would take 15 years & 371,000 miles for the diesel to pay for itself! Let's be honest here. The diesel is a lot more fun to drive, but unless you are towing huge loads all the time it is not worth it.

Very helpful information. Thanks for the video!

diesel is the way to go i say great video

dont forget to add the diesels expensive fuel filters, duel batteries, and limited life of the DPF system into the maintenance equation. DPF is $6k if it fails beyond warranty. What about that turbo? Will it last past 150k?

Do you know what I really like about being retired? I have all the time in the world to get where I am going so going fast up hill means nothing to me even if I am towing a load. I have a 1983 GMC diesel 6.2 ltr 3/4 ton 4x4 truck. I haul wood with it (it has a Tommy lift on back because I am old, why else?). I have been passed by old ladies pushing their grandkids in a stroller and that was down hill... But, that old diesel just keeps chugging along with its 3 spd manual tranny with a granny gear (maybe racing a granny pushing her grandkids in a stroller, in granny gear, was not such a good idea?). With that all said, I would rather have a V10 gas truck for everyday driving.

Buy what suits you. At least they have a gas or a diesel option.... so quit comparing on what's better.

You didnt mention the problematic emission controls on the Diesel. I had a 6.7. Sold it because of emission controls. EGR cooler, 6 sensors in the exhaust system, etc. Gas is more reliable. 2 batteries on the Diesel, turbo concerns, more expensive oil changes AND fuel filters, someday the DPF will need to be replaced - how much is that ? $2400 ? The EPA has ruined the Diesel

Go to a trade school to be a diesel mechanic , and get the diesel , if you plan on towing more than 8000 lbs.

A review on the f450 pick up an f450 an f550 cab & chassis for who needing for commercial use such as a tow truck ?

That computer is almost a ways off. My 2016 F150 2.7 show 20 mpg all the time. 18 to 19.3 mpg is what the truck get.

The problem is payload. In reality if you are going to be towing 10K or over, you need either a Gas F-250, or a Diesel F-350. the payload on a Diesel F-250 sucks if you plan on towing a camper and want to bring your family with you. A gas F-250 will have a payload of about 3K. a diesel version will be about 2,200lb.

What no one seems to mention is the longevity of the diesel over the gas engine. The diesel will last 2 to 3 times longer. There's your cost savings.