Whether it's really the fastest one or not, I would still take i30N because it looks more athletic, well put together and that exhaust noise is simply unbeatable. Well done Hyundai!
kmamercy why would I want to buy one, when I can get one already installed from factory. I'm not a fan of an aftermarket tuning. As they are stock as in this video i30N has got more to offer for its price than any other contender can.
The fact you call it a crackle map and a gimmick only shows you don't know a thing about it. It's a form of anti lag and it's the only hot hatch on the market that has it from the factory. Any other brand will immideatly void your warranty if you install aftermarket anti lag. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ccMg-KzMgU8.html
What I wish they used was the Clio 182 in the car park. (every time the lap driver was on camera) It personifies fun driving and is now cheap enough that you can have that and a nice daily to come along with it. Because how many people are actually racing there new 130N or other equivalent?
At the moment, all considered, and at a first attempt mind you, the i30n for the money in this class is the best hot hatch on the market. The exhaust note it has is the cherry on the cake. Mr Biermann hats off to you sir !
So many salty comments about Hyundai winning this mega-test. Thing is, not a single car here is a dud so it really comes down to personal preference. Meanwhile, with the amount of money Hyundai spent on creating their N division, bringing over Albert Biermann and others, you'd hope their first effort would be good.
I'm surprised that the Peugeot 308 didn't beat the Hyundai i30N. The french car has the same power, but a lower weight and a better chassis (tuned by Peugeot Sport). Being an older car than the korean, the 308 has beaten the i30N in several tracks as you can check on other comparative videos over youtube. Also doesn't make much sense that the Honda Civic Type R, which can beat all of the models here on any track at any time and has set the fastest times for any FWD in many popular circuits around the world, loses this battle. Then again, I miss the Seat Leon Cupra, which is much faster than its brothers the Golf Type R and the horrendous Skoda but you probably don't have Seat over there in Australia so all I can do is feel sorry about it. Long story short... this looks "a bit" sponsored by Hyundai.
Dr. Josef Blough Ph.D. Who would show up to those events in a Ford, Honda, Renault or VW Golf? That's not the audience they're trying to reach with these cars. I applaud them for recognising how they're regarded currently and bringing 2 very good and surprising cars to the market in this I30N and the Kia Stinger. For the audience you're talking about they have the Genesis brand (in the US) and that has a tougher job against the likes of BMW and Mercedes.
Dr. Josef Hyundai and Kia make a name because they are offering better value for money than any EU brand. Can't speak for the Stinger, but the N is just as good as any random hot hatch from Spain, France or Germany...if not better. They have put a huge amount of time and money in developping it and the result is a great product at the same price of a Golf GTI. And who would pull up at a World Premier in Holywood in a Hyundai or KIA? I've seen more Priuses pull up there than any other brand lately. At the end of this year Hyundai will launch their fuel cell car (world first production car btw. If that isn't innovating I don't know what is in your eyes) - I recon you will see those Hollywood eco warriors dance around that car as well. You really are nothing more than a conservative blind man spreading 1999 talk in 2018.
Sponsored by Hyundai. Also they picked where Hyundai is fastest. Why not race in Nurbugring where it was made for? Oh wait Type R is fastest in Nurbugring.
Like it or not, it’s about your personal preference in the end. If you are led by the marketing hype on any new car you are in the majority. The marketing is engineered to draw you in. If you take the emotion out of it you would buy on value, practicality and reliability alone. Another way of looking at it for me is, faster and ugly or slower with dream like looks? Your call, your money...
Well cars like the A45 created one.. when you bring out a hatch with AWD and 100+ more BHP than your usual FWD hatch breed, you can’t compare them directly, so you need to put them in a new category. Motoring journos refer to them as such all the time.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when talking about the Golf R, they said "And its the grid edition, which is equipped with even more goodies." However, isn't the grid edition the cheaper version, with LESS "goodies"???
Opposed to arguing with you're perfectly reasonable and explained outcome on the winner, my memory is not attentive enough to remember and compare the lap times of all the cars. A simple screen at the end of the video with the all the cars lap times together for comparison seems to me a obvious finale.
Hyundai, who would have imagined... I remember buying my first new car, a Hyundai Excel Sprint in 1998 for $12,990 driveway because of the (unheard of at the time) 3 year warranty LOL! Just like the thousands of young new drivers on a budget, fed up with repairing old clapped out bombs. As good as it was at the time & $$$, I couldn't wait to get my next "proper car" , I vowed never to buy a dull "Hyundai" ever again... 23 years later, and having driven, owned and experimented with most makes and models, I might be at full circle. The first Hyundai since then that has caught the attention from all motoring enthusiast. I must take the N Performance for a test drive! Never say never...
I can only comment upon the Honda and the Hyundai,having owned both over the last 9 months. I owned the Type R from last December until May this year and was hugely impressed with its grunt and capability, however, it just doesn't really involve the driver as much as the vastly cheaper Hyundai or provide a similar grin factor. I am not a Hyundai shill, simply giving my opinion of the two. The Type R is a fantastic car that I was delighted to own, to the i30N disparagers I simply say try one before you comment!
It's small track with ups and downs so i guess it's a better indicator how they perform on the road, it awarded agile cars with shorter wheelbase rather than horsepower, even clio hanged with the big fellows, type r although came second didn't shine because its more focused on stability than low speed agility, i30 and 308 are both very good and i think rigity and better diff made the difference
To my knowledge the civic type R , focus RS an ST are the untouchables when it comes to cornering an handling on the track This is not a fair test you should have used the focus RS which is 261kw an that should be the winning car at this test
I wonder why they don't have the Focus RS there...……..It would beat all of them hands down. I wonder how much Hyundai paid for this advertisement. I will never get that 16 minutes back...…. :(
Hey guys - You're a professional brand so not sure why certain things are in issue - If you want to increase your channel success, a video like this should be about 25 minutes long, you're looking at a LOT of cars and each one gets such a small amount of air time, I'm sure you got enough footage on teh day to make a longer video, and youtube will rank you based on viewing time. You should constantly have over exposed footage on light coloured cars, and underexposed footage you had to stretch so it's full of noise - Makes it look unprofessional, yes WHEELS is a succssful Australian magazine - But it makes the whole thing look amateurish.
William K DSG is for housewives that can't drive manual, also it probably couldn't get through a day at the track without breaking. When your DSG does break, good luck getting a warranty claim out of VW. But then again their pathetic warranty doesn't cover you if you go to a track day anyway.
schumifan78 Nice try. My first was a manual, I owned another manual car after that, and also owned a motorcycle. You’re not special because you choose to row your own gears on a daily driver hatchback. Guess you think M-DCT and PDK are for housewives too? They’re dual clutch autos too, just like the DSG.
schumifan78 yep...every modern Ferrari,lamborghini and bugatti are for housewives. You've never driven a proper high performance dual clutch fitted car in your life princess...about time you took your AU falcon through the drive thru for the 10th time this week and shutup i reckon.
As proven on almost every other comparison anywhere in the universe, in track conditions, and road performance the Civic Type-R absolutely TRUMPS anything in its path. The i30N is a very good car for the money you pay, but only comes close to cars like the Civic R, Megane RS etc on REALLY, REALLY tight circuits where you can't actually use the full potential of bigger cars. It's like top gears comparison of a Ferrari and a Fiat Panda in a kart track. The panda is almost as quick. lol
Is there a Laptime of i30n on Nurnburgring? Don't even see it beating the Clio with 8.23 or Golf GTI Performance with 8.29... don't even mention the Civic.
You need to look a bit further. The i30 N TCR currently has the lap record on the ring for TCR cars. Since that car uses the same engine and chassis as the regular i30 N. The i30N will run circles around that Clio and Golf on the Ring. It's only slower than the Type R because it has a deficit in hp. Hyundai also entered 2 standard i30 N's in the 24h race: The #92 car was shared by Vincent Radermecker from Belgium, Stuart Leonard from the UK, automotive journalist Christian Gebhardt from Germany, and Hyundai R&D engineer Jaekyun Kim. In relatively incident-free race, it completed 135 laps, finished 4th in Class, and 50th overall. As for the #95 entry, Pieter Schothorst from the Netherlands, automotive journalist Jens Dralle, and Hyundai R&D engineers Youngsun Jee and Jonghyuk Kwon did the driving duties. They crossed the line a further 25 laps behind, 9th in Class, and 95th out of 109 finishers. No other adjustments were made than what was strictly necessary to meat FIA regulations: role cage, fire extinguisher, single seat.
@@Iron883Man tcr like in an actual racecar? You are comparing a racecar with a hothatch. Makes absolute sense. Then compare the tcr versions of Peugeot, vw, Opel....
Rudy Oeyen WTCC cars use that same unmodified chassis and same engine. How is laprecord for WTCC cars not comparing against other WTCC cars? When you level the playing field in terms of power that N chassis is faster around a the ring than the others. So why would it be slower around the ring against cars with a deficit in power like the ones he mentions? It’s perfectly capable of doing sub 8 minutes in the right conditions and driven by a pro driver. I'm aiming it somewhere between 8 minutes and the Megane III RS Trophy time from 2014: 7m54s
They used the same engine in a different state of tune. Notice how I said 'unmodified chassis' and 'same engine'. You can check WTCC regulations. It's all in there.
So this is the first mass comparison video where the i30n is quickest?? Doesn't seem right. Has the same bhp as the 308 GTi, but weighs 250kg more... In other head to head videos the 308 GTi itself was much quicker, and I can't see how anything beat the type r.... Think this is paid for
pops and bangs Well here’s 5 where it doesn’t lol... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0DrfMKbd9mc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uqdMijKmGE8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wMUlPRvkdys.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L_x1cQgh4CY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x4E9yR5dsKA.html
pops and bangs too old? They were exactly the same cars then as they are now! 😂You’re just making weak excuses now. The Hyundai is a great first effort but it’s been proven in many tests now to not quite have the dynamic ability of the 308 gti (mainly thanks to it’s weight problem) although it does sound better..
No doubt, this is a hyundai ad.. Civic Type R is first in lap time followed by peugeot 308, if hyundai i30n is that fast...pls try to beat nurburgring lap time of Honda Civic Type R
These performace testing are very muchly subjective.. if am gonna do this testing the type R might always win.. However; it all depends on customer's preference.. Lile me.. I like the performance of the honda and i am not satisfied with just the stock power output of it.. it has to be pushed up a little bit more.. can't keep my hands off them.. for daily drive car; i will be happy with skoda or hyundai..
The Type R carries more power in those straights in Nurburgring, this track is tighter and more demanding to the chassis. The next iteration of the i30N, it will surely get a boost beyond 300hp, the chassis can handle it and I don't think the engine has peaked (tuning wise).
Although not the fastest car around, its a bit heavy and a bit long in the tooth, id still have the WRX STI over any of this lot for the whole brutal experience. And it would last longer. This lot are all lightweight fashion cars that wont last five minutes.
might aswell have thrown in the subaru BRZ / Toyota gt86 since you added some sedans with the excuse that they were in price range.. Also why would you add the BMW 125i and not the 135 or 140i?
Good review guys. The i30N sounds like an awesome car (ignoring a lot of comments below, because so many other reviews also say it is a good thing), if only I could look past it's looks. Such a plain Jane! I could never buy one ....
My first time buying a hot hatch...so i went for something that is sure to piss-off a lot of guys out their ..yes I've ordered a new 7.5 Golf GTI preference.
Simon L I have one and it looks awesome in the flesh. But personal preference is the basis here so it’ll vary from person to person as to which is the best looking car.
Take away the winner and we have ourselves a really good comparison. I wasn't expecting Type-R to do well in such a tight track since it was developed on a much faster track. Since there are tons of youtube reviews with Type-R, I'm sure they're all salvatating over the prospect of a comparison. The Hyundai will make for a juicy pray, in less ideal conditions.
Pars S Type R is indeed an excellent car and I would have bought it if it was just a bit less of a track weapon and a bit more fun to drive at road going speeds. I don’t think the N is in any way pray for the Type R. They are two different cars. The N is a lot of fun both on the road and on a track whereas the Type R is a precision tool and lap time warrior. Hyundai claimed their car was about excitement and fun and Honda clearly wanted theirs to be the fastest FWD car around. I think both win in the area they intended to win and it’s just a question of what you want from a car.
The Civic Type R has always been slugged for not being as good coming out of tight slow corners compared to other hot hatches. No surprise here with its lap time.
vedicbaru that is why I said they need to make a hot hatch model. The standard model is great I love how it looks and comes 6 speed manual. But it needs a hot hatch model like I said
Most of the comments on this video give no creedence to the overall picture other than mentioning power/weight. How about gearing/final drive? Track? Tire size/compound if not normalized? Weight balance? Power curve/tuning? Displacement advantage? Fuel rating requirement? Driving controls and their intuitiveness? Does the car inspire confidence to wring out all it has to offer? There are alot of reasons why one car could be "better" than another. You need to consider the overall package.
Great Video, i was wondering about the high number of dislikes - then everything became obvious: This is just a Hyundai advertisement. In EVERY other track test the Hyundai is siginificantly slower than the Peugeot 308 GTi l (let alone the Civic Type R), especially on tight courses like this one where the big weight difference is a huge factor! The lap time of the Hyundai is a blatant lie! Do you think your vierwers are stupid? Shame on you! Hyundai is starting to act like VW and other germans, lying, cheating and ruining the press, they hired former BMW engineers, probably they told them how to "win" comparisons this way, that's the german way and german mentality!
Mgoblagulkablong Great reaction...until I realised you only watch reviews and don’t actually know a lot about track layouts or any of these cars strengths and weaknesses.
Its also funny that the 'quality' German cars are one of the least reliable cars in the world. And in the case of VW, they cheat on emissions, proven to kill people, and yet they are regarded highly by many motoring journalists. The number one rule in marketing is that if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. Shame on Hyundai for heading down this path.
TheDudeInTheRedHotHatch What a joke, you are ridiculous. "Realising" things you know nothing about…. You did not" realise" that, you made that up. The Peugeots biggest strenght is that it is much lighter and more nimble than the Hyundai. And this is obviously a tight track.
I drive on track every other week, I've driven every car in this video (except the JCW and the Subaru) I own(ed) both the 308 and the i30N. I 'realise' you think you know these cars from watching reviews and you seem to think you know everything better then people that have actually driven these cars and driven them hard. That and you can 't stop liking your own comments...
@@shadowgaming6660 So get another one an do the test. You act like stuff is to complicated for you to comprehend. You really think the test results for the rs are disqualified because everyone made will break down.
Motortrend will do a similar comparison and the results will be very different! Some of these times are too close to call and driver error will always make a good car look bad...
All well and good but lack of real excitement. A couple of years ago, that would include the likes of Focus RS Megane Trophy R, then newish A45, or a JDM type R. Nowadays we have Hyundai i30N trying so hard to be a duplicate of Golf GTI, which itself has become dull and bland. When will we have another Clio v6 or megane r26? A45 Black series?
Frank Luo Welcome to the 2018 emission norms. Besides, as much as the Clio V6 specs were exciting, how many times have you seen one on the road? They only sell those cars to extremely brand loyal collector’s anyway. It’s not like they ever get driven. They sit in a garage for 5 years then shift owner for 25% increased value. Those cars are very exciting on a sheet of paper or on PlayStation, but in the real world they are nothing more than stock bonds being traded. Can it get more boring than that?
