I enjoyed this review, nice job. I have the exact car in destroyer grey and agree with much of everything you talk about. I think the pedals are a little strangely spaced, and wish the manual had rev matching downshift like the competition.
look forward to a new generation of reviewers who watched a few doug demuro videos and thought the audience wanted to see nothing but the person during a test drive.
It has the skip shift from first to second. If you are in first and at less then a quarter throttle between 19-21 mph the car will make you go in fourth.
I just purchased this same car but I got the pearl coat burgundy color. I have been a camero girl for most my life. But after having this one I'm not sure I could go back to the camero I love it so much.
It's a big comfy American muscle car. Note, the Scats and Cats are straight line drag strip cars, they are not a Ford Mustang so don't take corners and turns hard. I know from experience, I owned a 2021 Scatty Charger before I got my ten speed 5.0 Ford Mustang. The Dodge line up is awesome and so much fun.
Just a correction, it does have the skip shift lockout because that is the exact behavior you get when one is present. It will force you from 1st to 4th to save gas. Rather annoying which is why if I get one of these Challengers I am leaning 8 speed auto which is a really good one. I test drove both the 5.7 and also the 6.4 with the manual and both cars had the same behavior when plodding around town so it was not unique to your car.
I disagree that the dash is "cheap," it's well stitched and constructed with good material. The plastic on the door, especially the lower portion with the cup holder and pockets are by their very construction resistant to liquid/nastiness in the drink holder and things you touch and put stuff in all the time, making it easy to clean. It *is* different and takes moment to get used to but, I actually enjoy it and being something "less" wouldn't work/hold up and something "more" (metal with covering) would be even more expensive and heavy in an already heavy door. I think the seats are just great and fit me perfectly, perhaps even a little tight in the seat bolster (not the back, it's perfect). The charger seats are too small and the shoulder width is cramped for me but, I'm 6'5"/250 and not built like a stick figure. 😉 .The seats adjust to a very comfortable fit and i don't hit my head, despite having a long torso. You mentioned the gas guzzler tax "because it is a manual transmission" *but,* what you're not making clear is... The manual trans requires the *non MDS* (multiple displacement system) valve train so, it doesn't cut between 4 and 8 cyls while driving. This means the engine uses all 8 cylinders, all of the time which is *great* for the engine (less extra wear/premature failure of the valve train) but, as such, it therefore uses more fuel, hence the gas guzzler tax. So, again, it's not "just because it's a manual." I have this same car/color except not wide body although, it does have all of the performance upgrades associated with the widebody to include the upgraded, larger brakes, better dampened suspension, exhaust upgrades, etc. except for the extra wide tires and wheels (mine has 9.5" width with 275/40/ZR Pirellis, still a pretty decent upgrade from the stock, 245/40/ZR Goodyears). I also have the shaker package with the shaker hood, graphics and associated parts. It's not a shabby ride... For a standard body. 😉 😎
Dude there's nothing wrong with the trans! it's a tremec - what your experiencing is the Skip Shift ! when I first had my RT many moons ago I got a SS Eliminator... but into my 3rd Challenger (manual) and I'm used to them now, it triggers in when the speed is, I forget all the details but it's supposed to be used to save gas... as I said you get a an bypass for it, their not expensive around $18-20- I've had 3 manuals and haven't had 1 single issues with the trans! again that issue your reporting isn't an issue .. built in pain in the arse to save gas! after charging us gas guzzler!
Tell me why when he went on the navigation I seen the cities near my city, there’s Monrovia and el Monte and I stay in Baldwin park haha I just found it coincidence that he lives near by, but overall good video 💯
I am 6'1 and 200 pounds. I have a 2016 Challenger Hellcat with the sunroof and I have plenty of head room . Just lower the seat. I do not know about the seat belts in the scat pack but the Hellcat is speed sensitive.
"You'll correct me in the comments" how about you do your job. "This car is manual... sad" come on guy. Do you know what your audience is thinking when you say crap like that? You miss gears! Lol Maybe stick to boring cars
@@DuckMcDuckinson That was in the Camaro, not the Mustang. I'm just finding out that the skip shift were in Challengers as well, thought it was a GM only thing since that's been around since the 90s if I remember correctly
It's all about how the car makes you feel . I had the first edition 2008 Challenger SRT8 and I loved it. I am a big guy and the seats are very comfortable. I was too young in the late sixties to own one of the first Challengers but loved the design. It's ok to be a kid no matter how old you are 😉 ! The Hellcat is too much engine . He is right . Relax and enjoy this car . It's a stress reducer .Great tunes makes the experience fantastic!
I didn't understand the complaint about the seat being too big. They almost have to put a seat in it so it could fit anyone big or small. I sat in one of these cars once and I'm only 5'9" and 160 lbs. The seat felt great.
Great review ! Scat Packs are the perfect street muscle car IMO, and I get 21 mpg in ECO Mode, but not in any other...lol I prefer narrow body, I have the 2021 Scat Challenger with the TF Auto tranny. After years in an RT Shaker, it was time to upgrade,. now I am very happy with the 392 performance street muscle. I don't feel the need to Mod like I did in the 5.7, I can run in the 11s with my Drag Pak, which is fast enough for me. Reviewers bash the interior forgetting that this is a muscle car, not a luxury cruiser..
The widebody gets 305 tires on 11 inch rims. The scat pack has 245 tire on 9 inch rims and the scat pack with dynamic package has 275 tire on 9.5 inch rims. Honestly he could have just read the tire on the car for the video instead of just printing out a cheat sheet and reading from it the whole time
William Griffith, you wish. By that ridiculous yardstick, Ecuadorians and Venezuelans are "Americans" too, as they are in south "America". But, let's take a rocket ship back to reality, shall we?
I'm over 6 feet and have sat in a few Challengers and one Charger. In my opinion, sitting in the Challenger was like the seat in one of those spanky home entrainment theaters you see on the Price is Right.
Got to many things wrong about the specs on this car. Ill let you figure it out. I'm a GM fan, but this car is so capable - I may have to buy one (after driving one for quit some time).
Get into the back seat via the passenger side. The passenger seat will both fold and slide forward using that seatback handle. At least on my R/T it does. Not positive on the fancy models. lol
got a b5 blue widebody scatpack on order, should be in my hands within 2 weeks. looking forward to it. lucky for me i drive a ram 1500 as my daily, so i know the feel of a big vehicle
Do you have your scatpack WB now ? Does the front wheels make "click" noises when you drive backwards and turn sharp right or left ? (Sry for bad english xD)
@@jickccjk The only difference between a Hellcat and that is the annoying whine of a supercharger. If you're using it as a daily, the SRT is much more of a sensible approach. Maybe you like the whine of a supercharger, but there are a lot of people who hate it.
I get people not liking the sound of the supercharger. I personally kind of like it. I will also agree that the scat pac is much more sensible over the Redeye.
A thank u I knew I wasn’t the only one the that supercharger is really annoying 😠& plus hellcats are unreliable & that’s a pure fact ,The scatpack is reliable & it sounds more aggressive 😃
Mmmmmmm manual...........love the clutch, short throw, not the through the firewall feel of the mustang...which means I have to sit sidesaddle (horse joke) because i'm short. ( 5'7)
My dude, it's literally on the side of the tire at 1:38. Why even review cars if you can't figure out the tire size just from looking at the information on the tire itself?
Why? Because it still got your fucking stupid ass here. You still contributed to the view AND the comment count. That’s why. It’s that simple. You’re welcome.
This guy's information sucks, he's wrong about half the shit about this car. A standard Scat Pack weighs at about 4200 lb. The widebody is more like 4350 to 4400 lb. All that extra weight is because of the wheels, the magnetic ride suspension, the sway bar which is bigger, and the front brakes. I wish people would do some investigating before they actually buy the widebody because if you compare the two scat packs widebody vs. Regular, the regular Scat Pack will beat that thing every quarter mile pass. The widebody it's not a quarter mile straight car. It's designed for the track figure eights and all that crap. Most of the people who owned scat packs in the USA are going to pull up to a light see a Mustang are rice burner next to it and are going to floor it, that's basically the way it is in Chicago. So I used to own a Camaro ss1le a 2018 model but the thing had no top end grunt. The 2019 Scat Pack regular body is perfect 4 quarter mile racing. If you put Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires 275 by 40 on all four corners that thing will grip way better than stock. The widebody looks cool but other than that it's not going to beat anyting on the Figure 8 track or in the quarter mile, I honestly don't know why people get the widebody, I think they see how cool it looks and they figure with all those goodies on the window sticker that this thing can go without spinning the tires NBA regular Scat Pack but that's totally not the case. A Scat Pack 1320 it's cheaper than a widebody and will do and 11.6 quarter mile straight out of the dealership. The widebody is a waste of money you should have gotten a1320 Scat Pack for that money
You are right on point about Dodge and the personality of their cars. They are unabashedly North American culture-mobiles (to shout out to our Canadian brothers). My favorite thing about the Challenger and Charger (I have both) is that they retain a sense of humor and fun. You can drag respectably in a 1320, scare people on the track with the Widebody, and have the best looking stock engine bay with the T/A, or go over-the-top in the Hellcat and family. All of them get attention on Cruise Night. Dodge succeeds because they don't take themselves too seriously. These are the cars that I drew pictures of on the back of my math homework in 4th grade. I don't care if they are built on an old Mercedes-derived frame, or that they are owned by Fiat. They get it. I like large expanses of sheet metal that go fast. These are perfect for driving those big American highways. That's why I'm a fan.
Man i love your review its great and i love this car as well in red its great how do you think about quality of American car i am affraid of reliability of them but it looks the best from all of them thank you for great review
@@microminiskirt The tires are expensive other than that it's more than respectable . Gas cost is not in the Honda Accord class but you know that going in . Oil changes are not bad if you do them yourself around $60 but the dealer will charge around $80-100 full synthetic. Dodge sends you coupons for oil changes that are right in line if you do it yourself. Build quality is very good . I like the cloth seats better than the leather. Great material. I love the way the car looks and how fun it is to feel like a kid again . I really enjoy washing it and getting it ready for my next ride !
Thank You. I leased the 2018 R/T Plus Shaker, which has 5.6L engine, 375HP, 6 speed manual. I was shocked on my test drive that as wide as I am I was comfortable driving it. Getting in and out is still not exactly effortless, but well worth it. I love watching most any video about this car because it's the next best thing to driving it. I just hate the videos that complain it's not fast enough. If you still need to race someone on the streets than you have other issues. I still am amazed at the beautiful sound of the stock exhaust system. Saved money there. In 2 more years I can move up to the wide body. Amazingly, the entree level GT starts at 23K. Talk about a chick magnet (do they still say that) for a first car? Wow. With an all-wheel drive option. That cruse you talk keeping it in 3rd gear longer is music to my ears. Thank You.
Does it? Couldn't find any sort of official literature from Dodge about this. Felt exactly like the skip shift in GM products, but unlike those cars, the Challenger didn't have any sort of notice or prompt indicating that's what was happening. Was really my only complaint with the 6-speed.
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat I thought something was wrong with my car at first. When I called the service dept. where I bought the car from they told me what was happening. I don't have a problem with the skip shift but I would've liked to know before the transmission forced me into fourth the first time.
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat How was it in the corners? Pretty compliant? Welsey Motorsport is developing a suspension kit for it. Do you feel it would need it?
@@BuRn928 the Scat Pack handles really nicely. It's soft and soaks up the broken canyon pavement well, with a relatively neutral balance. I wouldn't change the suspension unless you're after a more hardcore, track-focused build, in which case you shouldn't use something as heavy as the Challenger in the first place.
@@DriveBreakFixRepeat thankfully thats not the plan lol. I plan on getting a little bit bigger tires, CAI, exhaust, and maybe a cam. Just think 550hp would be the ultimate goal in my opinion. If i ever wanted to really change the experience completely, I would simply turbo the car.
@@BuRn928 I listened in other reviews, and yes, will work better with other suspension. And if you have on your brain that (which you mentioned can be the right one)
most of what he,s reading is unnecessary bullshit,unless your a rich ass drug dealer,or oil person etc..forget any stereo at all, its posed to be about speed an power,not a dam cadillac or rolls royce..
I used to buy cars because they look cool but then when they perform like crap you wish you would have gotten the faster model. You have to keep in mind that one day that car is not going to look at school as it first did.
I just can’t get past the it’s big comments over and over ... what are you comparing it to a 1979 Honda Civic ?? Put next to any modern car it is not a boat it’s built very well and out performs most anything out there in its class.
@@JDB5824RG It's more around 600lbs heavier than a Mustang Gt, which is pretty damn heavy. Challengers are heavy, it's really no secret. Side by side it's noticeably bigger than both the Mustang and Camaro as well.
Technically Canada is still america........so is Mexico. That's why NAFTA is the north American free trade agreement. Just thought I'd go ahead and be that guy in the comment section real fast......because I'm bored.
bro lmao head room isnt an issue TallGuyCarReviews owns a challenger Hellcat Widebody and hes 6'10 and fits perfectly fine........ I also Own one myself and im 6'5 and i have more than enough head room dont know what youre talking about...
And untill 25 miles per galon, well that is a big point to buy one. I know the inside of the world of cars and for me buy a car with high costs on fuel and insurances are usually a good option to avoid that car. Was an idea which a learned during years. It's solid and functional. That's because there are many piranhas in the world of races
the lines and overall design and looks of the Challenger will never get old. such a timeless and distinct shape. btw. All American does not rule out, but actually includes Canada. it is family ! see AmeriCanadian Les Horswill for more on that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BeoijBjofqU.html or go to www.annexation.ca
