I thought the paddle shifters were unnecessary as well however I just drove cross country to California. We went up pikes peak and did a two day trip through the Sierra Nevada mountains in Cali and those paddle shifters came in clutch (super handy) down shifting coming down the mountains so I wouldn’t over use the brakes. Now I understand why they put them in!
Those paddle shifters are extremely important when coming down a steep downgrade, I use them all the time when I go up to the mountains to sightsee. Coming down them steep hills is very scary if all you have to depend on is brakes. Brakes heat up, fade and fail but downshifting will prevent that scenario.
I was just about to comment about this... I use them all the time on my 2021.... I love them for traveling in the mountains which i do often. There are a few interesting quirks that you should know.... if you just tap the - (left side) it will downshift ... but will resume normal drive mode once you push the gas hard enough. But if you want to keep that gear, for instance mountains where gradients change slightly and you need to keep the same gear but apply a little gas.... tap the D (drive button) to enter sport mode. ... then gear will stay no matter what (unless slowing beyond capability of the gear)..... also if you want to quickly want to enter regular drive mode... tap the drive button twice to cycle back into the drive mode. ... works like a charm for me once you learn it.
I've owned the 2019 EX model for a little over a year now. I have to say, I agree with all of your opinions - what you like and things Honda needs to improve. Very good video. Thank you.
On my 2018 Odyssey EX 85,875 miles total.. 1 problem that I fixed was at 55,000 was that had very low acceleration & hesitation with the economy mod off and on didn't make a difference then i noticed the remote start wasn't working properly it would start and run for 3 to 5 seconds then shut completely off on it's own. I had no check engine light, I had a 100$ level scan reader & eraser and no codes, but I was using my Sprint obd ll WiFi that had a built in trouble code scanner. Now it finally gave me a code (( low throttle response )) then I knew that the throttle body area was the problem so I carefully removed the throttle body and noticed the after the throttle plate was extremely dirty so i used throttle body cleaner to remove all dirt and oil residue. After assembly every thing back, took for TEST DRIVE and the problem was fixed.. Yes the dealer could fix it but i wanted to know how to fix it myself..
Charles rodriguez have u replaced the transmission fluid yet? Was it a difficult process? And by “economy mod” do u mean the variable cylinder management system?
Excellent, thanks for the info!!... I have had this issue with my Accords especially due to direct injection and I have to clean the intake manifold as well time to time...(every 10,000- 15,000 miles)
Great video. -The paddle shifters are good incase you are going long way downhill, you set to S mode then downshift to a proper lower gear, so you coast downhill, with no brakes on. -The intermittent wipers have two modes, either it's Rain sensing or timed (like old cars used to have); you pick which way it's going to be in the settings. -the key fob issue with your phone: I think it's related to the phone's NFC; if you test with a phone that does not have NFC, I think it won't happen. basically it's interference of signals
Hi, I actually have an issue regarding these. I do not like rain sensing especially in light rain... how do you switch to timed (intermittent) mode. I couldn't figure this out. I'm happy I read this comment if it truly does have a manual timed mode.
Very nice video Bud!!! We are picking up a 2021 Honda Odyssey elite next weekend, been watching videos about odyssey’s and I like the stuff you showed, thanks man!
Strange to see that defect from the outer panel (door skin) separating from the door shell. I'm surprised that was not caught at the factory. However It looks like a quality repair was done. That is a very well equipped, nice versatile van. The paddle shifters are a bit gimmicky and likely the marketing departments attempt to persuade people they're buying a sporty vehicle. You obviously take very good care of it, which is no easy task for a large family vehicle. Best of luck with it!
I totally agreed with you on the 360 bird eye view camera lacking for a $40K+ top level trim, other competitors already has this nice feature installed. I see they sell 360 view after market camera, looking forward for your 360 cam installation video... cheers !!!
This was a great van. My wife had the exact color van in the elite edition. When the pilot black edition awd came out, she fell in love and traded it. Great van though.
Replaced the battery at the 84,500 miles mark. I knew that the battery was acting up because when I would start the van with the seat belt off the dash would light up then turn off then turn back on, but when my seat belt was on the dash would be normal..
I own 2023 Touring and agree with second row AC vents and seat belts fully. My kids complain about the same what you said. the newer vehicles have sensors in the middle on front bumper. However, I miss the self dimming feature on the outside mirrors which is available only on Elite. Overall MPG I get is bit more, on highways I consistently get approx 27, short rides in winter are the worst for MPG.
Note 1: If the shoulder belt is rubbing on his kids' necks than they're too little to be using shoulder harnesses. This puts the kids in danger--that info should be in the Owner's Manual. My understanding for little kids no longer using car seats, is they should have the lap belt fastened (securely on their hips!) and then place the shoulder belts behind them so it will stay between their back and the back of the seat. Note 2: We stopped using Eco or Econ Mode in our car because we realized it strained the transmission. It would up-shift much sooner causing that. We'd much rather pay a tad more in gas (if that) than have to replace the transmission.
Eco mode is great if you want to drive slow like a limousine. It completely takes away that starting jerk back when you start from a stop. I love it actually, but in a hurry or quick driving most definitely I prefer it off. I have a 2021 so maybe they fixed this issue you have.
I currently own an ‘07 Odyssey and I prefer its look over the new one. It’s one of the reasons I don’t want to replace it with the new one. Plus, the air vents, seat belts placement of the new one don’t help either. In the 07 I can store the 2nd row middle seat under the floor. It has double wishbone suspensions so that makes handling good imo.
I have a 2018 Odyssey Elite, I drove it from the Bay area to San Diego (the longest it had been driven)..I noticed the rotors warped (shake and brake) and now I need to change them. I'll upgrade to a slotted/vented rotors. I think its a design flaw given the size of the vehicle during prolonged slight braking and sudden stops. Honda should've installed a slotted/vented rotor in front to prevent early wear and tear. I also hate the stop/start function, I just turn if off the first thing I do when driving the vehicle.
I did that upgrade before on other vehicles.. I didn't like them because they give more vibration/noice when stopping harder especially from faster speeds. There was a test I saw somewhere that they didn't work as advertised. Maybe if you got them you can tell us if they worked for you? Also, you can buy thicker (upgraded) rotors and that should work much better. I had my rotors turned for free by Honda after only a month of ownership after a long downhill drive and using brakes heavily... I have since become very good at using the paddle-shifters to smoothly downshift going downhill... I have not had any warped rotors since. (knock on wood)
3 additional problems for you from 1 day of owning 2020 elite. Front vents have a high pitch noise when fans are on full blast unless you fiddle with the direction of the vents. Drivers side passenger door, the molding on top of the window is not flush with the driver door molding causing it to poke out, dealership will not fix or replace since "all" of the trims models that have plastic and not chrome exhibit this abnormality. I checked at several dealerships and the majority have this defect. Thirdly, the cooling seats have a higher than desirable humming noise that when I first drove the car home and didn't notice the cooling seats being on, I thought that the car windows were down and I could here faint sound of construction work being done!!! Very informative review of the oddysey, thank you very much! On a side note, wonder if you can buy more sensors like the ones in the front corner and attach them to the front of the bumpers?
Sorry to hear about your problem. Sometimes dealer will avoid fixing something if they can show all the cars have the problem....that makes it 'normal or acceptable'. As for the front sensors, you can't add 2 more sensors. However I have been thinking about relocating the two corner sensors to the front to make it more useful. That might be a later project.
I had 5 mini vans all my life, the odyssey that I own had nothing but problems. 09 odyssey sliding door problems, front driver side window regulator when out, abs module, spongy brake pedals, fuse blowing up, alternator will not charge. Keep in mind the 09 odyssey I kept it only for 2 years and trade in it for an 2011 sienna. Which now have over 380k and still running with original engine and transmission, never replace any spark plugs nor transmisison fluid.
I just purchased a 2018 EX-L and I'm converting headlights and fogs to Elite LED lights. Hate the halogen lights on the lower trims. Really hoping the aftermarket picks up on these things in the next few years because I love this van.
You are using the intermittent control for the rear wiper. For the front pull the handle down 1 notch then use the dial further the left for timing adjustment. Awesome review by the way. Ive got an 18. Where did you find the bug shield? Does it do a good job of keeping the bugs off the windshield?
You should have shown how you can hold down the unlock button 5 seconds and it will open all the widows to let all the heat out so your A/C doesn’t have to work so hard. That's what I do when I am headed to my Odyssey with groceries.
My biggest complaint about 2019 Odyssey is its heater performance, especially through footwells. It does not move adequate hot air even at its highest setting. And second complaint is how steering “wanders” left and right. It is difficult to keep it straight without adjusting the steering wheel constantly.
I thought only my 2017 Honda Accord Sport does that. I guess it has something to do with electric power steering wheel. My old Hondas were hydraulic power steering wheel and they were so much better at keeping straight line.
Good stuff! We have a 2019 EX-L really only have 2 complaints. 1 the transmission sometimes has a delay from stop so you step on gas and nothing happens for like 2 seconds. No loving that. Also the headlights on EXL trim are not very good. On the plus side we took one 3600 mile road trip and averaged 27.4 mpg and the majority of that was 80-85 mph driving
dial2fast Get the odyssey, or new Toyota Sienna, that will be a hybrid for the 2021 model year, getting 3x mpg. GM products have issues and are cheaply made. I recommend the odyssey of sienna. But if u wanted an SUV the pilot and the new highlander are really great.
It is not acoustic membrane, it's the glue to keep the two piece glass together before it gets tempered. I have the brake hold on my 2001 accord, it is called a hand brake.
It most certainly acoustically tunes the road noice. Also brake hold is completely different.. it engages the front brakes and you don't get that dip down in the back if you released the gas pedal and the car is still in drive. Brake hold is awesome.. and automatic... enjoy your hand brake.... :)
I love the Honda Odyssey but I do agree about the parking sensors they need to be all around the front bumper just like the 2011-2017 model just my opinion
You don’t want a panoramic roof, I have one on my BMW X 3 and when those little plastic bits break it can cost $3k-5k (full cartridge replacement) to fix depending on where you go! You can still play music and make calls via Bluetooth in the Honda, just don’t have the Nav capabilities as you would with CarPlay.
Thanks for the review. I was going to buy a Touring because I wanted the parking sensors. However, I'm going to re-think knowing that the parking sensor has a blind spot in the front. Doesn't make sense to no have a sensor in the front. Very odd. Hopefully, the 2025 model fixes this.
I picked up the exact same vehicle - year, trim, color, interior color... back in July 21. Have to say, I don't understand the HVAC setup for the rear areas. Bad design flaw by Honda and hopefully something they address in 2025
It's high time they have a chain drive instead of a belt drive in an Odyssey.... it's cost me around $2500 (and some change) to do a "belt-water pump-seals" change in my 2010 Odyssey. Imagine what will it cost to replace for this 2020 Odyssey model? :-(
My 2019 has carplay issues. For about 10-15mins carplay wil not work then all of a sudden it's totally fine. This happened only after a s/w update. Agree with all that you talked about- Especially the stupidity of not having good parking sensors and/or front camera! My EXL headlights totally suck, had I realized that, I would have bought the Elite or Touring! Where did you get those seat belt pads?
Perfect point Pedro Alvarado! You have a 9 speed or a 10 speed Transmission. How else would you manually pull a different gear? Why do people not understand this? 9/10 Speed trans and and 4 button electric shifter = need paddle shifters
Own a 2018 elite model and will add to dislikes: 1. When driving, the navigation system cannot be engaged to change destinations or locations of interest. You can use the voice activated search function but system is not great at understanding requests and becomes distracting trying to tell system where or what you’d like to search. Having previously owned a 2011 Touring model that allowed this functionality for navigator seat to work is a great loss for a brand new model. 2) Netflix is still not available for entertainment system so a workaround is to plug Amazon fire stick with in car power source while using vehicle hotspot, but I’ve already burnt out two fire sticks when electrical current from vehicle caused cracking sounds from speakers that fired the fire stick. 3) passenger and 3rd row passenger- side vents open to blow air towards window and do not allow for redirecting toward passengers, doing so closed vents. These three are at top of my list and point to items I’d consider Honda either under engineered or took measures to simply cut costs at expense of highest end minivan model.
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Very nice review. Did you have any issue with transmission suddenly going into park? Or some dashboard lights? Some other customers have had issues with Odyssey.
You dont want a Sienna look up them vs Honda vans Honda is safer in a crash Toyotas even the trucks the cage crushes in an accident in the vans in their trucks the dash gets pushed in 12”.
So I’m a Toyota Sienna owner and their 2021 model you cannot remove the middle seats due to thorax airbags as well the center console protrudes back to that area. I’ll be more than likely going back to an Odyssey or maybe a Pacifica. Would you be able to tell me side door height to get in and how wide the door opening is? I’m using my sienna for a wheelchair so I’d need 27” wide opening. My other option is $40,000 for a conversion which has a whole other set of issues. Keep up the content, very interesting channel.
@@zakm4012 this is a minivan its supposed to do that without it its suprising technology and the new Toyota sienna is the most stupid design get a grip
You drive an 2019 elite, I drive and 2019 EX. Has your radio told you no audio available? You have a reduce power mode when the front gets splashed with slush and snow but nothing seems to change? Have you had the cruise control crap out because that same slush and snow covered the passenger side front bumper? The bells and whistles are great when they work.
I do leave the ECON mode on just to squeeze a little bit more fuel saving but not by much. But do keep in mind with ECON mode on, the initial acceleration will be reduced, and the AC will operate not as strong. Especially if the engine stop is enabled and the engine is off, the AC is barely cold. Now you can toggle the ECON mode on and off whenever you want to adjust to the driving you are doing.
Thanks for the review. I have 6 kids and two are in car seats. With this I am concerned about the AC vent placement not being on the roof. If a child is rear facing, it will block the air. Have you had any issues with the vent layout and passengers in the back?
I kids are 14 and 12, so they are out of car seats. With rear facing car seats, during a hot summer, this car will take a bit more time to cool the passengers. Also if you drive with Econ mode (to maximize gas mileage), the AC will also run less cold which result in longer cooling time. Although you can disable Econ mode if you want. The design is definitely less comfortable for the first 10 minutes of a drive during a hot summer, but the cabin will cool to a comfortable level. Another big factor people don't think about is color of your vehicle. A dark color will be significantly hotter inside than a lighter color like white. I use to own a black car here in Georgia, and there is a big difference in the inside temperature after it's been baking in the sun. So hope some of the info helps.
dial2fast by “grinding sound”, do they make a little whistle at low speeds? My brakes make a little whistle noise, like when I’m parking in garage and move up a little bit.
Hi, do you know if you turn the window lock on, the driver cannot control windows for others? I never experienced anything like this with other cars. Do you know if we have another way to get around this?
Please make a video of a drain and fill of the transmission fluid on this vehicle. I assume it would be the same regardless of 9 vs 10 spd in the same model year.
JesterX Fan he only has 20k miles, I doubt he’d be making that video any time soon. I think for the 9 spd the transmission needs to be removed to get the fluid out, check out “ 9 spd ZF auto transmission drain and fill”, search that, and it’ll come up.
I have 2019 Odyssey touring and vehicle Bluetooth phone issue where other side hear cut offs and garbled voice. Dealer replaced mic but the problem still exist, do you have this issue?
Do you or is it possible to fold the seatbacks flat for both middle and 3rd row? I like stow and go but if folding seatbacks down results in a somewhat even surface all the way across, this would work as well.
What is it doing? I have a friend with a 2012 EX and when we would tell the door to close it wouldn't budge it would beep. We figured out that someone grabbed the door gasket which caused it to fold over which makes the BCM think someone or an object is in the way we unfolded it and now it closes. Now the rollers are wearing out so will be doing those next.
How you feel about the transmission ? Can u compared with CVT? I have nissan quest 2015 i get 22mpg in city and 27 if driving to Florida. Which one go out first ur nissan CVT or honda 10 speed?
@@dial2fast DO NOT wait to 50K! The Service Marketing hype is for maintenance cost reduction. You will burn the transmission. My 2000k Oddy has 280k on it's original transmission..... and those were the really bad transmissions. I used to change (flush-n-fill) the fluid every 20k. I now drain and fill with every oil change at 4k, not expensive for the service that vehicle provides. I can't seem to kill it, and I drive it kinda hard, also wish I had those paddle shifters.
The Honda 10 spd is definitely a better transmission. I’ve heard that the Nissan CVT transmissions are weak and unreliable. But the 10 spd keeps the refs quite low at highway cruising and shifts flawlessly.