202 - The Thorsen House Tour - A Greene & Greene Ultimate Bungalow

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he Thorsen House is one of the Greene & Greene ultimate bungalows located in Berkeley, California, one of the only ultimate bungalows in the northern part of the state. Built in 1909 by Hall and Ott and designed by Charles and Henry Greene, the house contains all of the detail one comes to expect from a Greene & Greeene masterwork.
The house is currently owned by the Sigma Phi Society of California and is a California historic landmark. While the house looks great in video, it is actually in need of repair and restoration. Leading the restoration effort are the Friends of the Thorsen House. Curious what needs fixing? Check out the list: thorsenhouse.com/what.php If you would like to donate to help support the restoration effort, you can do so here: www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=RSQcTll0N_gkuck8ofY2IhVr42vOucq7Sy8r2xd0BJxKkIJAPALuqqtQw1u&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8def8934b92a630e40b7fef61ab7e9fe63
I'd like to thank Darrell Peart for giving us the tour and the Friends of the Thorsen House allowing me to film on location.
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@bonnikagarice293 9 лет назад

This was my grandparents home, my father grew up in this house. Never have seen the inside, so thank you for the tour. My grandparents were william and caroline Thorsen.

@canan4433 4 года назад

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@honkybear666 3 года назад

Thank You for sharing the information. It truly is a work of art.

@killersugar6816 Год назад

I’d say that’s a pretty obvious curtain rod over Mrs Thorsens door, yeah?

@jban4457 Год назад

@@killersugar6816 it's a Japanese Noren pole to hang fabric. Arts and crafts were originally created with a very strong relationship to Japanese design. The light fixture next to the Noren pole probably hung a Japanese style lantern originally.

@Art-is-craft 10 месяцев назад

@@jban4457 While arts and craft in the US had Japanese influences such as lanterns and certain architectural features much that is seen in this house is of western influences.

@craftsman513 28 дней назад

Beautiful. Greene & Greene make us all look like amateurs.

@chris7662 10 лет назад

I could watch stuff like this all year long! Beautiful...

@daniellebenstein8772 9 лет назад

Thank you Daryl Peart for educating us about one of the finest homes in America!

@fixcasa58 Год назад

I’m going on a tour through Berkeley Architectural Heritage on Sept 18th. I can’t wait!

@dalecouch1995 3 года назад

I think the chin up bar is for a portière, or door curtain. Probably had some meaningful tapestry panels that allowed for easy passage.

@mattprzybylski4422 11 лет назад

I can't even begin to imagine how long it took them to build this place, especially considering the tools available at the time. The amount of detail in everything is astonishing.

@davebasch5995 2 года назад

It only took a year or 2! They built 4 or 5 of these in just a handful of years

@ndabox17311 11 лет назад

My wife and I went through the house last summer. It is amazing.The students let us just look around as some even joined us as we shared some of our Greene and Greene knowledge.

@tad3900 5 лет назад

The craftsmanship is just stunning. The attention to detail and imagination marvelous.

@traditionsHome 6 лет назад

A classic home, an important milestone in American architecture.

@bigdaddyd4jc 11 лет назад

Nice. Huge fan of that style. For those of us on teh Eastern part of the US, it is a nice tour. The coat rack: the bottom was for coats and the top was for hats.

@evermore8888 11 лет назад

Awesome building, ....grandeur, strength, elegance, intricacy, style....and timeless...Thanks WW

@chris101505 11 лет назад

I was thinking maybe it was for those summer nights so the door could be open and a curtain could be hung for privacy while still allowing a breeze!

@sarakrystaf3537 10 дней назад

Thank you for the tour. Very interesting. .

@RichieRich845 8 месяцев назад

It is a shame that people don't build like this anymore, the skills are disappearing. You should have had Brent Hull taking us on this tour!👍

@FelishaWild 11 лет назад

Thanks so much for sharing Marc. I love looking at the design and implementation of things like this. There is just so much to look at in a place like this.

@rpederse 6 лет назад

Awesome - learned so much. Thanks to Marc and Daryl.

@karlholzenthal8021 2 года назад

GENIUS

@joecook4282 11 лет назад

as great as it looks on video, its does not compare to seeing it in person...... great job both to you and darrel....

@TheARMendoza 11 лет назад

thanks for the time and the tour of this amazing home that should inspire us all...

@woodwhisperer 11 лет назад

That was the Gamble House in Pasadena. And I believe the interior of the Blacker House was used as well.

@1oftheonez 11 лет назад

Green and Green seems to be a sort of a testimony to the quite merging of the highest forms of art...from culturally adverse origins and showing that although sometimes 1,000's of miles apart in time or space they all still aspire to that same greatness of becoming the self solution to the environmental condition of your surrounding . When form follows function beauty is its repercussion when beauty is attained in the functioning form ..the form has mastered its environment .

@jban4457 Год назад

Arts and crafts and Japanese style strongly connected, it's no wonder there are so many Japanese elements INCLUDING the Noren pole over her bedroom door to hang fabric... lovely touch next to what would have likely been a Japanese style lantern hanging next to it where the newer fixture is now.

@Hobobobobo 11 лет назад

I think I found my dream home.

@woodwhisperer 11 лет назад

Since it was in Mrs. Thorsen's room and was over the door between the bath and bedrooms, my guess was it was for staging clothes.

@jenniferrowan5090 3 года назад

very nice, amazing all the detail.

@Buchoass 11 лет назад

Thanks for the tour, very cool.

@warehouse321 11 лет назад

o_o....so.much.detail. absolutely amazing!

@jamestremblett1875 9 лет назад

basically it's not a curiosity, it's the ideal joint.

@olivier2553 10 лет назад

Despite what is being said in the comments, curtain in front of a door is not uncommon as it helps preserve the heat inside the room.

@1oftheonez 11 лет назад

I would say the chin up bar is for her quilts ....not clothes. Not efficient for clothes . However the rack is proportioned to fit the size of a neatly folded blanket of some kind ?

@seanmiland 8 лет назад

got sand paper?... whoa... a polishers dream style.

@jamestremblett1875 9 лет назад

To clarify, cancelling at the top of the joint with a full tail would be inadvisable, whereas cancelling with a full pin would be unnecessary and, particularly in the Greene's case, un-craftsman like. The half pin provides enough strength at the top and as I've said, the bottom of the drawer stabilizes the bottom corners so a full tail is possible. It's basically showing off knowledge and skill. Peacocking even, but still awesome.

@griiiiiiiiiin 11 лет назад

Amazing

@tiralie 11 лет назад

Great video. Thanks

@fouroakfarm 11 лет назад

Beautiful, thank you for sharing. I live in the area and we have a lot of great bungalows (and Victorians)

@TheJimsock 11 лет назад

Very interesting. Thanks.

@randallthomas5207 Год назад

The Cloud Lift, on the top of the hallway drawer sides, would prevent visible wear on the top of the drawer sides, particularly if there is a rise at the back or the drawer side which would ride on a runner above it.

@jeffpower6473 5 лет назад

And to think not a single piece of Festool machinery was used to do any of this work. 😉

@trueleyes 2 года назад

Boy, I'm finding so many things that this guy is missing in his presentation of the design of this magnificent house. Now he tells us that on the wall there is a sconce light fixture of wood, and he says that the curved mark at the bottom is from a light fixture that "Was Swinging back and forth making this mark?" Are you kidding me? What, is it that windy in the house?" nd this guy is a teacher of design?

@jamestremblett1875 9 лет назад

at 5:05 in the video the presenter talks about the curiosity of having a full tail at the bottom of each shelf joint and a half pin at the top of each shelf joint. It seems that perhaps the reason that the Greene's would begin with a tail at the bottom of each drawer because the bottom of the drawer would add stability at the corner, and work in proportions upwards, cancelling halfway through the final pin to provide adequate strength at the corners which don't benefit from the security of the bottom panel of the drawer. Also It's woodworkers of times past relied more on proportions than accurate measuring tools so Perhaps beginning with a full tail provided a the template for the remainder of the joint. Any comments on this?

@willnettles2051 6 лет назад

The bar is a Japanese Noren pole, for those spilt fabric curtains in doorways. Interesting the comment about Art Deco. Just about everyone loves Art Deco, yet often when it's used in movies it ends up being dull (but not always). The Oviatt Penthouse, Olive St. Los Angeles 1927-8 I found quite interesting. Architecturally it's wonderful, but it has a lot of Arts& Crafts elements as well making it more transitional. What I think I learned about style from the Oviatt is that styles that are still changing are the most exciting over time. Greene and Greene copied Japanese styles, but not quite, and as you aptly point out about the pulls, how each is a bit different, perhaps they also had the idea that it is transition, variation, variety where architectural detail is at its best. Which is the finest Greene and Greene pull? It's a ridiculous question. They are all wonderful because they are all similar yet different. In about 1982 I was new to Los Angeles and my friends were driving me around Pasadena and showing me some of the Greene and Greene houses. One was open. We went in. Speculators figured out that if they bought the house, striped the Greene and Greene fixtures--sold them off, then replaced them with something similar they could make money. Rotten people.

@woodwhisperer 11 лет назад

Back then a CFL bulb was built to last 100 years. They just don't make 'em like they used to. :)

@thelosttexan1717 6 лет назад

That is a curtain rod above the door. During hot days they would leave doors open for a draft to flow through the house. The curtain was there so the door could be left open but still give her privacy.

@1oftheonez 11 лет назад

YES !

@Jercarp55 11 лет назад

Great video! It wasn't so much about the house itself as it was the details of the woodwork and naturally so because it's a woodworking site. I would love to know more about the other materials, (plaster, wall coverings, tile, metal etc.) that go into a house like this.

@benny42000 11 лет назад

Good to know, I just saw Gamble house and a full swing tearing through the roof. Now I don't have to yell at anyone, ha ha.

@Majoofi 11 лет назад

Next video: Tutorial; Build Your Own Thorsen House.

@FloppyHatPhotos 11 лет назад

Could it have been to hang a damp sheet for a cooling affect?

@Whisperhollow 4 года назад

Could that chin up bar purpose have been where you could hang tapestry for sound dampening?

@trueleyes 2 года назад

REFERRING TO THE FRENCH DOORS

@benny42000 11 лет назад

Which was recently torn down ( gamble house). Hope they saved everything they could.

@SkynetT800 Год назад

I visited the house it was Pasadena California.

@vijaysp4365 10 месяцев назад

Vaaranam ayiram movie shooting house ❤❤❤

@woodwhisperer 11 лет назад

Wrong Gamble House. You're talking about the one in Cincinnati. That wasn't a G&G creation but it did belong to the Gamble family.

@andyhastings5950 2 года назад

That is only a base cut for a cloud lift. Should have 2 or three lifts.

@Lazrahh 11 лет назад

06:50 it's one of those old timey CFL bulbs.

@bryancassidy4100 4 года назад

Right. Its not a chin up bar. It wasn't uncommon to hang blanket or quilts over doors to help retain, heat to a room. It's an Old World and Colonial carry over for heating individual rooms rather than a whole house furnace. Mrs. Thorsen probably had cold hands and feet!

@seanjoys7360 4 года назад

Were routers or table saws of any sort around in the early 1900s

@jbkibs 11 лет назад

that's exactly what i was thinking... what's wrong with leaving the door open and having a nice parted lace curtain there? it would give a soft, sexy feel to the bedroom entrance...

@josephpulliam1351 5 лет назад

The beauty of this house i i i i i love but this guy stutters stutters stutters alot alot alot

@Curia__ 11 лет назад

All those houses are awesome, the Gamble House is owned by USC I think and top (I think architect) students get to live there for a semester or so. You're not allowed to take pictures in that one though.

@nicholastinling1022 2 года назад

No, it is owned by a women's association of Pasadena. USC has been given the use of the upstairs for their students.

@2handsomeforlaw 11 лет назад

Aptly named house!

@ms0099rg 11 лет назад

guild build?

@earlprice9375 9 лет назад

Well, I am merely mortal!

@evermore8888 11 лет назад

How painstakingly long and hard would it take to have built this house... with hand tools??????

@rjal1973 11 лет назад

Didn't they use this as Doc Emmit's house in Back to the Future?

@stefanmagyar4042 3 года назад

Not a bad video, but it could have been so much better if you’d used more lighting with your camera.

@rendermatt 11 лет назад

Every design implement left me thinking "thats awesome but if I did that it would just look pretentious and ugly"

@trueleyes 2 года назад

That IS NOT A BUTT HINGE it is a PIANO HINGE. Butt hinges are the one in your home and everywhere else it is the most common style of here use here in the US THAT MI FRIEND "TEACHER"? IS A PIANO HINGE

@rozinant1237 9 месяцев назад

Look closely, it is a series of butt hinges, each “butted to it’s neighbor, all the way down the door. You would not have found a piano hinge that massive back then.