Indian has always been known for impressively well engineered, solidly designed, engines. That has always been their "claim to fame", in my opinion. Not surprised at all, I take my hat off to them for their great work on the PP. Well done RR, interesting presentation.
what indian did is make Metric bike power using metric bike technology ( old technology btw). and made it sound “american” and package it in a wonderful looking bike with great tech to compliment it. aka: home run!
what those graphs indicate to me is when i want to pass a truck on a 2 lane. i don’t have to down shift and then up shift again to get around it. i can roll on power and the power lasts much longer and builds throughout the rpm range of the motorcycle. no down shifting and up shifting to get the speed up and going around traffic.
Good morning "Big Cheese" another informative video. It even got "Don Vito" excited about the new engine. Looking forward to the next video. Cheers, Mate.
Hello! Your horsepower and torque commentary is amazing! ! I don't understand english enough. I'm sorry. I did a Yamaha tourer for the first time. LOL. Thank you my friend (^^) /
What I find cool is the long lasting HP and torque curve. It makes the M8 and everything else look week on paper, but the M8 is still a rocket ride. It will be interesting if that new bike appears on the roads next spring in any noticeable quantity.
TheRoadRatt yes I did see the linear curve. I was thinking that the head work they did to the motors most likely really helped , along with the liquid cooling, and high comp ratio. My bike is LQ too, but my comp ratio isn’t that high hehe. I will say the most impressive part to me, was the dash layout. It’s really well though out. I still don’t knock the M8 as it’s got good traits, 1 of which I like is cruising ability.
@@nwroadrat I was just wondering how they will fair reliability wise. For those who put a good amount of miles on their bikes. Like upwards of 50k and beyond. Is this a bike to keep past warranty. Time will tell.
The torque graphs are unnecessary. They don't tell you anything you didn't see in the power graphs. Torque is a component of power. If an engine is making more power at some rpm than another engine, then it is necessarily making more torque at that same rpm too. Because power is torque * rpm, small changes in power at low rpm make big changes in torque. At high rpm big changes in power show as small changes in torque. The torque is useful for tuners trying to linearize the power curve by flattening the torque curve at lower rpms. That is because the small changes in power are easier to see on a torque curve at low rpm. It's useless info to riders. The torque at your rear wheel is dictated by the gear you're in. Aside from that, your overlay of the power curves was great. Would have liked to seen how the Yami fit in there. The biggest takeaway is that Indian was advertising engine power, not rear wheel power, which per the dyno is substantially lower. The 108, while strong, isn't unattainable. Put a cam in an HD big twin and you'd be running similar metrics at the rear wheel. www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams.html Modern engines have rev limiters to keep you from exceeding the red line. I wouldn't worry about red line unless you disabled your limiter. So far, I've banged off the rev limiter once on my M8 107 while making a pass. No biggie, I just grabbed another gear and finished the job and went about my way. With a more powerful engine, it would have been nice to do it in a higher gear without worrying about the rev limiter, but it's not really that big a deal unless one has cash burning a hole in their pocket in need of a project.
Yes. I was trying to be careful with the data points because engine vs. rear wheel can substantially vary on some models. I might do another vid putting in the Yamaha Venture and maybe a few others just for fun. And come to think of it, I could go past the red line on my other bike, and one of my Triumphs. I suspect it was disabled on the HD and the Triumph was older so it may not have had one. It's funny in some of the comments on other articles. Challenger-curious commenters are asking about lowers, rear trunks, etc. being available. I don't think this is a model Polaris wants all that. But I don't know for sure. :)
@@nwroadrat They'll probably take it slow and see if it catches on. No reason for them to rush into every market, there's plenty of competition for full on touring bikes. HD kinda has the big twin bagger market cornered. That's likely where Indian will likely score their biggest sales and best margins.
