2020 KTM Freeride E-XC (5 Worst) 

Did we get it right? What do you no like about this dirt bike, comment below.

I hate that i cant afford it. Because I freaking want one!!!! For my wife of course...

I think number one was the “PRICE”....here in Quebec, Canada, only one dealer, carry this model, cost 14000$ can, plus 15% sale taxes, that a lot of money. I think ktm have to adjust the price like the rest of the lineup. That bike is unique, and if they want to increase the sale here, they have to match the price. That bike is for ALL FAMILLY, beginner to expert. Great job guys👍

#5 the chassis is sweet in the tight stuff. I prefer it to the big bikes for anything under 40mph. #4 hand brake makes sense on a bike without a clutch. It will also roll backward on steep hills like a Rekluse. This is why Rekluse riders riding “Enduro” install a LHRB. You also don’t have to use your foot to control a brake in nasty stuff. Watch my rock video rear brake pedal sucks in that stuff. I’ve had my 350 in there too. I should have the brake pedal mod video up next week. #3 clutch masks poor technique for most riders. Learn to ride without it and you’re twice as good with it. Lots of top pros practice without clutches. I rarely, basically never miss it and riding without it has made me better. #2 yes it’s a pain to charge until set up, but it charges twice as fast. Love/Hate. There are 20 diff kinds of 240 cables as there is no US standard, so KTM would have to give you a bag of cables. They could have made the charger 120/240, but outside of the 120 plug, the problem would still exist. This bike is still kind of testing the US market so it probably didn’t make sense financially to create a new charger. #1 the ride time is basically equivalent to 1.5g of fuel, which basically the same time as a regular Freeride or a non-fuel injected bike. Ride it like you only have 1.5 gallons of gas and you will have a different mindset while you ride. The bike is designed for small spaces... not the Colorado desert unless you are just going out to play on rocks. I’d love a longer battery life myself, but it’s sufficient for what it’s designed for, just like the gas version. Basically your whole list is because you’re trying to ride it the same as a gas bike. Toss that discriminatory mindset out and there’s really no hate 🤣 Haha

I had the same complaint about the "bonus complaint". I added an LED headlight that has a fan. Pretty good reminder that the bike is on and draws less power.

I understand that these dirt bikes will get better. We must crawl before we can walk. Your feedback is priceless. Im hoping with time the price will come down. Till then I will have to watch...

as a mountain biker i appreciate the handle bar breaking and leaving your feet free to put body english on the bike.

Ive been riding this 2015 bike now a few days and I have the feeing Im using the rear brake (gently) pretty much like a clutch on the gas bike. I think it works great. So far I havent missed the clutch at all. What do you guys think ? Great bike btw, love it. Thanks for you vids👍🏁

I have this bike since 3 months and I love this so munch 😁❤️

Have you seen the E-Motion epure race model? It has a clutch and you charge it with 110v

Admitjet Armor dirt version 2023 has a foot brake and linkage rear suspension.

My #1 is price, Thanks for the content, and if you do more vids as the tech changes, this will be a fun progression. Electric is coming, auto, motorcycles , and mtn bike tech will produce a whole line of bikes we wish we had. For now, dump $10 of gas in a tank, and go fits many of our objectives, in 5 to 10 years, gas bikes might be collectables, lol. Go KTM, 1 ebike now, maybe in the future they will have a full range like they have for the gas bikes if the market is there.

I suspect most of us who own one do not use it as their only bike. I would never take my E to Colorado or even North Georgia to ride. However back here at my place with a five mile tight and technical course I often think the guys in Austria designed this thing especially for me. It's small size is a benefit here where my AA rider son who holds the record for the course on a YZ250 at 16:06 only hit 37MPH as his top speed. It will complete four laps with no problems. Most of the guys who ride here can't make four laps before they are toast. Most of the local stuff has loops of around 20 miles in tight Southern woods and it's perfect for those trails. You have to develop different riding styles. It's not for everybody. Yeah, I still reach for the brake pedal occasionally in panic stops, but the lack of pedals and thin lower frame make it excellent in ruts. Also I can ride on the balls of my feet and not diddle with pedals. The trials influence makes standing the preferred riding style. Yes, drop offs are a problem unless you are standing and keep the bike level with body English. Pick it up and throttle it by mistake and it's in the next time zone. I didn't find the plug to be a problem. I just went to Lowes and bought the correct socket. I'll probably buy the adapter to fit a dryer plug. I would like to do some riding at TTC at the Tennessee Knock Out (if it happens this year) and will try to bum some 220V from my buddy who runs the place. ;) One thing you didn't mention (probably because you don't have much thick brush) is that I've had brush turn the key off before and sat there while the guys I had passed rode back by me as I tried to figure why it just quit!!! ;) P.S, it needs a horn to let people know you want by.

For me: range is the most important over all. I can live with the frame size, but a full size frame would give them more room for larger amp battery. They could offer two battery sizes; Smaller, lighter for those that are on tracks or that ride smaller areas and don't need the range or can swap battery easy. Bigger, heavier battery for those that value range over light weight. Charger should have both 120v and 240v capability in one charger. Or come with a 120v charger and a 240v fastcharger as an option or accessory. I'm fine rear brake on bars and no clutch, though having a clutch would be handy in a few situations. Electric trials bikes have them since they need explosive power. Price is what it is and I think it's worth it. I'd pay more for a full size with bigger battery. Alta were $15,000 and worth it.

I have had the KTM E bike since 2015 i Europe , love the bike... yes batteri time Can be better, and maby a clutch. But foodbreak no, love it with out...

How do you get 1.5 hours running in Map3 flat out?! I only get 35 minutes.

The rear brake was a big thing for me but as far as range, I’m from Vancouver and ride at areas like Mcnutt and vedder that are pretty gnarly and typically speeds are quite a bit slower than the stuff you guys seem to ride. I’ve been out on rides well over 3 hours and still had plenty of run time left

I think issues like no rear brake pedal and no clutch are only issues for dirt riders with tons of experience riding gasoline-powered bikes. Often it's tougher to unlearn and relearn than learn something from scratch. As a street rider who has only recently started getting into dirt bikes, I actually like that it has the brake lever in place of the clutch. That makes things like pivot turns and stopping on a hill much easier (especially for short riders like me) cause we have more freedom in how we can cover the rear brake while having to shift our asses across the seat. I have not ridden an electric bike yet (although I'd love to! :D) and from every review that I've read, having no clutch does not seem to be an issue because the power is linear. I guess that's a matter of unlearning decades of riding gas powered bikes and getting into an 'electric' mentality.

Great video

If there’s no foot brake or clutch can you really call it a dirt bike? I thought it was licensed by razor when it was first introduced.

What’s an ice style dirt bike?

It is true, we all know there is no perfect bike that covers all situations. We all dream of a support team with a trailer full of bikes so we can switch instantly based on terrain. In one day riding out west on a rented ttr230, I wished I had a trials bike, a yz450f, ktm 300, a tenere 700, and a goldwing/street glide, etc.. and I also found the ttr230 great in certain areas. This bike fits a great niche, like many comments point out. I'm gonna buy something electric soon..Stark, Zero, electric motion, ktm?? We really have to think hard, how are we most going to use it and enjoy it? Or we just buy one and play for awhile...and repeat. I love the mx and jumping with my yz450f but it has its costs and I need to move on and get my thrills in the slow technical stuff where the costs aren't quite as high. This bike looks fun if I can find a nice used one. At the moment, I think the EM Escape might be what I'll use most in the trails near me, and I love the lighter weight.

Sounds like it’s best to go with a traditional gas bike. They haven’t perfected the electrics yet.

Run time kills it for me. It is exciting to see these things get better though. Hoping I won't have to wait too long.

distance traveled would be the most concerning to me

You are so right. Electric bikes are the future, but this one is definitely not the present. Electric sounds awesome. Who likes to deal with gas and change oil, clean an air filter? But who wants a bike that can only run for an hour and a half, has no clutch, no pedal rear brake and the chasis of an 85? If KTM is trying to bring mountain bikers into the sport, it might make some sense. I’m not trading my Husky TE for this bike.

It's the charging. It's killing the vibe. i only have 110 and not sure how i can do it.

Can't believe this was 2 years ago, lol Times have changed a little, Gas almost hit $5 a gal just due to politics, I haven't found a good used Efreeride to buy :( A surron isn't enough for me in the dirt, although I'm looking for a talaria currently to ride around town. and in 2023 the stormBee is said to launch(I'd love to buy one Feb23, I hope it's not pushed back) Yost desert race Oct 2022, I talked to a sweeper on a E-xc, loop 1 was 30 miles, he had planned to take it easy, 30 miles was his limit in those conditions. Lots of silt and up and down single track, 30 miles... I was impressed, after loop 1, his quick charge was to jump onto his ktm300 at the pits, lol. Doesn't look like KTM has released a big update on this bike yet.

If they would add a weighted flywheel/hydraulic clutch like electric motion did on their Epure race model it would be so much nicer!

I would agree with the number one issue, particularly if you ride in an area where there is a lot of space, of it not having enough range. Here in the NE, the simple fact that this thing is quiet allows you the ability to ride in way more areas without pissing people off. And that quality supersedes any and all of the negatives presented in the video, IMHO of course.

There's no foot brake???

My 2020 has about 60 miles on it and throws a motor short circuit code and shuts down after about 5 mins.

I do want to find something I want on your site for a chance at winning it though, let me take another look lol.

My guess would be no clutch to modulate power

price

I really wanna win.....too bad I’m a year late cause I need an electric bike to chase my kids around!!! Haha.

The run time is not going to improve unless a major improvements in batteries happens. To get the same performance as ICE you need 3 times the energy density as current batteries. It will happen but not in the next 5 years.

Wish KTM would make some dang updates to this bike. It’s old in the tooth already. It has so much potential.

good vid, yeah sounds like the electric bike its a bad idea ... ill check again in 5 years

To me the dumbest thing is having to remove the subframe to adjust the compression!! True, there is no air box or exhaust pipe, but just put a hole in the frame to stick a tool through!!!

(for purely selfish reasons...) KTM u.s. needs to step-up the homologation process, it's A-1 street legal through out the EU. I'v got a 15 minute commute to work on slow surface streets. SM covertion and I'd be happy AF. alta is gone, and zero still has a "tech start up" stink.

Ooh no clutch, no hand brake, and 220 charging yikes...and run time. Not worth the price range at all yet. More like a novelty right now. Still super cool.

1. I hate the soft Suspension, i am heavy and i've put in the hardest springs, still to soft. This thing isnt made for jumping, would have liked it more in a big bike too. 2. I hate the tires, they are no good in wet to muddy dirt, dry is fine but we havent that to often here. 3. I hate the numberplate, i have to dismount it everytime going offroad and its Not designed to be dismounted quickly. I helped myself Drilling holes and Do a wingscrew through it, but its not very nice. 4. I hate the Price 5. I hate the Mudprotection for the chain. If you can stop for a fuelstop why cant you have a Battery there to change? You aren't carring the fuel around are you? I have no problems with it but i mainly dont do bigger offroadtrips like you guys. I have limited space to play around and after 1.5 hours of racespeed i need a brake nevertheless xD cheers Edit: oh forgot one thing...why no reverse drivemode? Its elektric So that should be no problem. Would make an new world of possibilities so...

It was a crappy bike before it went battery powered. I feel your pain. No clutch or rear brake pedal?? that sounds like a FIRST PROTO-TYPE.

Range, a bit undersized, price, no clutch, charging time

I'd like both brakes on bars.

I never considered how this would totally screw with my riding style, not having a clutch. I rely on the clutch for power control in the same way a 2-stroke rider would (so I've been told), so your throttle hand has to have some good-ass control. Personally I have some minor wrist issues on my right arm so the clutch lever is much easier to pull to control my speed exiting corners, rather than rolling off and back onto the throttle. Also, why the hell couldn't they just put a back brake pedal, I have no idea.

I understand that electric bikes are a thing of the future and it’s probably what dirt bikes will turn into eventually, but they’re just not far enough along yet. It’s just the issue of it being the early stages of it still.

3500$ usd for a battery?? I'l keep my carburated 2017 300xc

you compare things that are not comparable and above all it is a motorcycle and not just an electric bicycle, for guys who do not know how to measure their gas, it is normal that they regret that there is no clutch..

You should just give it to me my birthday is July 15😁

I luv this bike...whooo😋phil can join the raffle.🏍🏍

Probably battery life would be my only complaint.

100%

Nada como un motor a gasolina 👍

#2 On the list is a America problem. It's not the bikes fault. In Sweden normal wall outlets are 230V. Or 400V for like welders and some washer/driers.

Plz I need to win this bike

Ill never be able to afford an electric moto if ya got even a broke one laying around ill take it god bless

Sounds like you need to convert a dirt bike

Wearing in India

Good comments, to add to your list. She's a bit porky, heavy!

So bad, there is no Alta Redshift MXR anymore. It is the better bike!

I bought my E bike mainly to ride at my own trail. It's roughly 5.5 miles of tight, eastern woods. It usually won't make four laps but comes close. That's OK. Most riders, including me, are run down themselves after three laps. Here we are on our third lap. Bill on his Husky 300 is camera guy, me in front of him on my E bike, and Dudley leading us on his KTM200 EXC. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4MHIjg6UD9E.html

2:55 lol, Americans with their 110v and school shootings

This thing just a total beginner or women’s bike. That’s it!

Nobody is going to win this bike, you can trust me on that.

So basically, everything about electrics is what you don't like.

No clutch? No zap ? PASS!