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2020 Subaru Outback vs VW Golf Alltrack - Off Road Wagon Battle 

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2020 Subaru Outback vs 2020 VW Golf Alltrack Review by The Straight Pipes. With 182hp 176lb-ft tq and 168hp 199lb ft tq, would you pick the Subaru Outback or Volkswagen Golf Alltrack? Would you get the Alltrack in manual? At $40,995 CAD and $38,420 CAD with the DSG, would you take them over the VW Golf Sportwagen, Audi A4 Allroad, Audi A6 Allroad, Subaru Forester, Subaru Crosstrek, VW Golf GTI, VW Tiguan?
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@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 4 года назад
Outback or Alltrack? Wagon's or SUV's? Subscribe for that Formula 1 car review that probably won't happen but maybe
@narayanmatharu7239
@narayanmatharu7239 4 года назад
I would rather go Volkswagen with this one especially because it’s in manual!
@johny2424
@johny2424 4 года назад
You can throw the GTI IS20 turbo into the Alltrack, so that has to win
@FlowStateNewOrleans
@FlowStateNewOrleans 4 года назад
Alltrack all day. I drove my 2017 SEL stock for 18 months before getting it tuned. Just this week I upgraded to the IS20 and added a carbon fiber cold air intake. With the extra power and the tuned DSG, this wagon hauls ass and also hauls all my stuff.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 4 года назад
Wagons. That's why I'm upset that the Germans don't bring high performance wagons to North America other than the E63 and the RS6 Avant.
@aadi8568
@aadi8568 4 года назад
Outback for me. It can actually do some sort of off roading, the golf cannot.
@JeppeRito
@JeppeRito 4 года назад
I'd appreciate an extra 5 centimeters 😔
@lascosuzy1
@lascosuzy1 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@aidenemery9090
@aidenemery9090 4 года назад
JeppeRito wouldn't we all 😬
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 4 года назад
I found that bananas work wonders when you’re doing anal. It’s pretty hard to hide a banana during missionary though.
@kolavadae4592
@kolavadae4592 4 года назад
@@kevinnorris6558 lmao you wild
@brucelafone2910
@brucelafone2910 4 года назад
Hahah, great comment and I agree 😬
@okinawaBallerina
@okinawaBallerina 3 месяца назад
The alltrack is my upgrade for mom life from my mk6 GTI. I do obviously miss steering my GTI but at least the alltrack is still a little fun 😆 I also prefer a simple info center and air control so that's actually a plus to me on the VW. Visibility is the alltrack is great! Haven't driven an outback to compare but I'm very happy with my alltrack ❤
@Fandango1978
@Fandango1978 4 года назад
I will never understand why nobody ever mentions that the roof racks can fold across on the Subaru Outback. That should be a major selling point.
@serenity1126
@serenity1126 4 года назад
I have an 17 alltrack which I picked because of you guys first review so vw all the way
@CrushBuds
@CrushBuds 4 года назад
I never thought in my life “I think the outback is a sexy car.” I like it every time I see a new one on the road. Growing up is weird.
@nsbioy
@nsbioy 4 года назад
The new outback looks ok
@ozzless
@ozzless 4 года назад
Is it even a comparison ? I always thought they are in a different class. Even the interior is now better in Subaru, which never happened before. I'm not even talking about the suspension and handling.
@Thomas22may
@Thomas22may 4 года назад
Saying a Golf has more styling than a Subaru is like saying a turd with glitters has the same appetizing look than a chocolate chip cupcake...
@oliverroo59
@oliverroo59 4 года назад
If you had driven long enough you would've discovered that the camera system also tells you to take a coffee break if it detects you are getting drowsy, which is ridiculous, but also kind of cool, but also very annoying. It"s like constantly driving with your mother in the car.
@jackdowd1
@jackdowd1 4 года назад
The 2018-19 mid cycle refresh Outback looks way better than the 2020, and the Infotainment is 100% better!!
@vertablue3803
@vertablue3803 4 года назад
Why didn’t you test the XX turbo model of the outback ??
@vertablue3803
@vertablue3803 4 года назад
Sorry “ xt”
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 4 года назад
Here is what I know. We live in Colorado at 8000 feet and got a 2017 Alltrack with manual. The average Subaru driver goes faster than us so lots pass us on our way home. That is until we get to decent size hills when the non-turbo CVT Subarus slow down to below the speed limit and drop away behind us. Clearly they are wimpy and made for flatter surfaces.
@seigiornimarchello1609
@seigiornimarchello1609 4 года назад
The Passat Alltrack would of been a better Foe. Nothing about the mounting warranty issues with the VW, Personally, I've had so many its horrible to deal with my local Dealer Ive traveled to 8 others. And to think I traded in my 2016 L.L. Bean edition for my 2018 VW.
@petrkanev5777
@petrkanev5777 4 года назад
Equivalent to the Outback is the Passat Alltrack. Why don't you take it?
@TrainsfanAlex6060
@TrainsfanAlex6060 4 года назад
Testing the ground clearance with a chunk of snow had my Canadian juices flowing 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@YuriTereshyn
@YuriTereshyn 4 года назад
Alex McDougall people just want to be able to drive over the snow on their driveways
@TrainsfanAlex6060
@TrainsfanAlex6060 4 года назад
@@YuriTereshyn has Jakub shovelled since he got his Raptor?
@Jabid21
@Jabid21 4 года назад
Alex, what is Maple Syrup?
@sgbradley
@sgbradley 4 года назад
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦☃️
@schwagnum
@schwagnum 4 года назад
I think Wisconsin juices taste similar to Canadian juices. Probably more like beer though.
@thexetmes
@thexetmes 3 года назад
The Alltrack can bolt on an IS38 (R/S3 turbo), downpipe, and intercooler and be reliably tuned to 350+ HP. While both have a manual option, the DSG is also an incredible auto transmission and far superior to any CVT.
@mcmudkipp
@mcmudkipp 4 года назад
**K E E P E Y E S O N R O A D**
@DT-xp6ig
@DT-xp6ig 4 года назад
Best Feature EVER
@mattX5
@mattX5 4 года назад
D T it’s a terrible feature. My wife’s 2020 X3 has that feature, and it’s the most annoying thing ever. My 2016 X5 doesn’t have it, and I love it.
@salami99
@salami99 3 года назад
@@mattX5 my 2003 wrangler doesn't have it, and i love it.
@mattX5
@mattX5 3 года назад
@@salami99 lol that too. Mine has the rest of the active safety tech, just not the eye monitor that constantly beeps at you lol
@xavierbullett7219
@xavierbullett7219 4 года назад
YESSSS! #SAVETHEWAGONS this made my day and weekend!
@NCarlosPinto
@NCarlosPinto 4 года назад
Yes! More wagons! The best kind of car (regular) money can buy!
@redwhite_040
@redwhite_040 4 года назад
You should import one from Europe. We have all kinds of wagons over here.
@DoctorSkillz
@DoctorSkillz 4 года назад
I say replace the wagons with crossovers and SUVs.
@natebarry5553
@natebarry5553 4 года назад
@@redwhite_040 It's very difficult to import vehicles to the US due to the emissions and safety regulations
@santileonsteinberg1441
@santileonsteinberg1441 4 года назад
Also #SAVETHEMANUALWAGONS in the case of the Golf!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
Boys, Our southern neighours might be interested to learn that wagons and manuals never really went out of style in Canada . We just can't get too many these days due to our common North American auto market. #SaveTheManualWagon
@petrosrz8990
@petrosrz8990 4 года назад
Well here in central Europe they are the rage. Apart from some showoffs but then again they are everywhere..
@danielmad
@danielmad 4 года назад
yup, we love our wagons up here in Canada. Which is why VW Canada stock piled a whole bunch of 2019 models to sell in the 2020 year until the MK8 comes out.
@SiddharthJaggavarapu
@SiddharthJaggavarapu 4 года назад
People need to be more educated on the fake SUVs and CUVs. They drive worse and are generally less comfortable than a similar sedan or a wagon. I don't get this obsession with SUVs. People are falsly convinced that they are safer for some reason.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
@@danielmad We also had the 2014 Matrix, 2016 Venza and 2019 Prius v up here though each was discontinued a year earlier in the States. My hope is that Toyota Canada will turn this 'wagon momentum' into the importation of the Corolla wagon which sells so well in Europe and Japan.
@jaronyuriyh7931
@jaronyuriyh7931 4 года назад
and one of the only cheap manual awds
@Squid165
@Squid165 4 года назад
Dead to me if you guys don't say Alltrack haha. Only because I bought a used '18 because of your first review
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 4 года назад
😂👍🏻
@superdestrier9160
@superdestrier9160 4 года назад
They are discontinuing the Alltrack in America :(
@trevolutionary3
@trevolutionary3 4 года назад
I too bought an Alltrack based on their original review. No regerts!
@FlowStateNewOrleans
@FlowStateNewOrleans 4 года назад
Their review was the tipping point that made me decide to finally pull the trigger on buying my 2017, too.
@georgebeierberkeley
@georgebeierberkeley 4 года назад
Haha... me too!
@Zstray17
@Zstray17 4 года назад
Your ground clearance test is actually genius. 👏🏼
@sippie_cup
@sippie_cup 4 года назад
We need to get you guys in a Holden since they just fully died
@geoffreyyip6179
@geoffreyyip6179 4 года назад
You mean Chevrolet because that's what it essentially is and they have it all over America
@keon5779
@keon5779 4 года назад
@@geoffreyyip6179 In Canada they were sold as Pontiacs like the G8.
@JakeRoot
@JakeRoot 4 года назад
@@keon5779 At first. Later on Chevy picked up the slack with the SS (Holden Commodore) and the Caprice (Holden Caprice/Statesman) in both the US and Canada.
@keon5779
@keon5779 4 года назад
@@JakeRoot We never got the Chevy SS or the Caprice (only sold as a police car) in Canada.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 4 года назад
Holden Ute please
@superdestrier9160
@superdestrier9160 4 года назад
The ground clearance test quantified the numbers perfectly. You guys are great at making things really understandable.
@prayagkl
@prayagkl 4 года назад
yaass....more wagons please.
@nosah8415
@nosah8415 4 года назад
The outside of the Subaru looks 10 years old, but the interior of the VW looks 10 years old🤔
@railfanatic1416
@railfanatic1416 4 года назад
The inside of the vw looks like an early 2000s interior and the outback's shape hasn't changed since 2010, but the facelifts make the outback look so much better
@nosah8415
@nosah8415 4 года назад
@@railfanatic1416 agreed!
@wulfstein1
@wulfstein1 4 года назад
Depends on the person. I love the VW interior due to the minimalist, subtle look.
@Eatmykellogs
@Eatmykellogs 4 года назад
In 10 years or less the outback will look dated but the golf will still look current. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@kamX-rz4uy
@kamX-rz4uy 4 года назад
That center stack of the VW reminds me of the 2005 Legacy and 2008 Outback I owned. Not bad but yes it looks dated. As a Subaru owner I am concerned about this newer infotainment center design. Hope they fix it before it's time to move on from our current Subarus.
@FOXDADDYSUPREME1
@FOXDADDYSUPREME1 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. We were crossing the same cars for my wife. She drove the outback like 100 feet and refused to give up manual transmission. And she hated the SUV like drive of the outback compared to the golf. We found the last green manual alltrack with all the options within 300 miles and are making the 8 hour round trip to pick it up in a couple days.
@kieferr1194
@kieferr1194 4 года назад
Colorado’s state vehicle, the Subaru Outback! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Post2PostProductions
@Post2PostProductions 4 года назад
I love seeing the Outback's infotainment system being ripped by so many people. You guys made some great points on it, and Savagegeese also ripped into it. Unacceptable that an infotainment system with that many problems reached production. Big flip by Subaru. Which is a shame because I do prefer Subaru over VW, but not in this comparison.
@kisero2222
@kisero2222 3 года назад
its rally hard to understand it in my view, i test-drove a 2020 model and its a nightmare of bright lights everywhere. not to mention, you have three screens to look at. VW has far better UI , in particular the digital screen which unfortunately is not shown here.
@TFSIChristmas
@TFSIChristmas 9 месяцев назад
Subaru over a VW? VW makes so many awesome cars!! I will never pick a Subaru, it goes bottom. No normal person would pick a Subaru with barely any style, quality to it lol not even their own dedicated AWD. Never crosses my mind. VW is alot better. You better go with the Tiguan Allspace or even Passat Alltrack. USA is not a fun place for cars.
@TheTearierAce
@TheTearierAce 4 года назад
I appreciated the cool camera moves during the box test. Good work boys!
@sayansmakov7333
@sayansmakov7333 4 года назад
Video as always is great, but the car classes are different. I can be wrong, however: the Outback vs Passat Alltrack, Golf Alltrack vs Impreza...
@jahyoda
@jahyoda 4 года назад
Will you be able to test XT Outback?
@SgtSeth
@SgtSeth 4 года назад
If I was in the market for either, with the intent being a competent all season wagon, as one should be in most of Canada or in snowy regions of the US, the only real choice is the Subaru. Its AWD system is the best, hands down. There is a reason why Subaru's outsell all other AWD vehicle in Washington state, Colorado, and the New England regions. Honda's AWD system is mostly a FWD system that can send some torque to the rear wheels, but its not 50/50, it doesnt have true torque split from left to right and it just doesnt work near as well as the Subaru system does.
@carsonerickson9172
@carsonerickson9172 4 года назад
I love Subaru, but they have taken away a lot of the things I loved outbacks for. No more 6 cylinders (which is fine, 4cyl turbos are also very good and get better gas mileage) but then they crossed the line when they put in a CVT, exactly the reason i'm keeping my 07 Outback and unfortunately won't be buying another one when the time comes.
@borger99
@borger99 4 года назад
Or get the Outback XT for 270hp.
@kylebudd5479
@kylebudd5479 4 года назад
Tha Privateer that doesn’t exist in just about every market and is a different price range by a long ways
@Eatmykellogs
@Eatmykellogs 4 года назад
Tune the Alltrack for 250hp
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk 4 года назад
Nah I owned one they are terrible, the flat-6 is a lot better.
@kontio9186
@kontio9186 4 года назад
Or forester sti
@p_enta5012
@p_enta5012 4 года назад
Or get a real car
@acorndrumneptune
@acorndrumneptune 4 года назад
I'd love to see the a4/a6 all road variants too!
@lascosuzy1
@lascosuzy1 4 года назад
Dont know if they have it in north america
@ElyciusM
@ElyciusM 4 года назад
@@lascosuzy1 we have the A4 allroad.
@lascosuzy1
@lascosuzy1 4 года назад
@@ElyciusM oh ok
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- 4 года назад
The USA Audi A4 Allroad, base model is about $10K grand higher in its price - verse's a fully accessory /optioned up, top tier USA Subi Outback Touring XT. .. We ordered the Subi Touring XT (260HP Turbo'ed)... If only Subi Corp ditched the crumby CVT for a ZF or a DSG style gearbox and gave the central large screen the MENSA treatment,,, we'd be in business.
@angellousutharsann
@angellousutharsann 4 года назад
@Elycius also we just got the a6 allroad in us
@skinnybricks
@skinnybricks 4 года назад
I bought a 2019 Alltrack SEL w/ a Stick. Best car I ever owned.
@ZachTheTechWizard
@ZachTheTechWizard 4 года назад
Likewise!
@northhighshoals
@northhighshoals 4 года назад
Me too! Awesome car
@rolltidebmz
@rolltidebmz 4 года назад
Ugh, you guys need have done a turbo version of the outback.
@kylebudd5479
@kylebudd5479 4 года назад
Boris Zilberman they don’t come with a turbo
@rolltidebmz
@rolltidebmz 4 года назад
Kyle Budd in Canada you mean? In the states they do. The XT
@stolpyn
@stolpyn 4 года назад
The XT is also available in Canada
@EJames22
@EJames22 4 года назад
I'm sure that'll make it better...nope
@kylebudd5479
@kylebudd5479 4 года назад
@turbobenx yeah, just been on autotrader, I'm right
@slashtrio
@slashtrio 4 года назад
The VW is better looking and probably more fun to drive, but the outback is more practical as a cool family wagon. My family has a 2014 VW Jetta sport wagon TDI that we are going to trade for a 2016 outback limited. The sport wagon is cool but small for a family of 4 and a just over 6 foot dad. I do think the 2016 outback limited looks better than the outback tested on this video. The 2016 looks more refined and more Volvo-ish.
@Tcflohr
@Tcflohr 4 года назад
All track, 6 speed manual, swap in a golf r turbo and a tune. Fun dad car
@thomasmartinez5867
@thomasmartinez5867 4 года назад
Oh really? When I showed my Dad this car, he said when you’re older your going to appreciate an automatic transmission.
@matte8441
@matte8441 4 года назад
Thomas Martinez My dad drove only manual cars until he bought an automatic 2002 Mercedes. At the time the highest trim C-class he wanted came exclusively with an automatic so there wasn’t really a choice. After owning that car he said he will never buy a manual car and every car that proceeded it was automatic.
@PapiAndrey
@PapiAndrey 4 года назад
@@thomasmartinez5867 You can get a dual-clutch auto in the alltrack if you don't want a manual. Personally I think they're both fun, cvt on the other hand...
@jackfrost9736
@jackfrost9736 4 года назад
@@matte8441 I honestly get manual drivers in small European back roads and cities but when you're in traffic Automatic is just the best
@matte8441
@matte8441 4 года назад
Andrew Denisyuk I currently have a Golf TDI with a dual clutch and it’s actually not bad. I thought it was gonna be rough as I’ve never owned one and drove strictly manual or conventional auto but it’s silky smooth. In fact smoother than my BMWs ZF auto, however not as good gear ratios as I wanted.
@CarNut43
@CarNut43 4 года назад
The Subaru interior is impressive. There’ve come a long way in a short amount of time
@chungha3124
@chungha3124 4 года назад
Uh?
@CarNut43
@CarNut43 4 года назад
Jonathan Losito Oh, I was just saying that I thought it was impressive for Subaru. Have you seen what their interiors looked like just a few years ago?? 😂
@punnequraq
@punnequraq 4 года назад
Jonathan Losito You can option different colors, you know that, right? Also, we’re talking about the interior. Why’d you slip off to the transmission?
@Splendid_Lad
@Splendid_Lad Месяц назад
Subaru went mainstream. They lost their uniqueness for being a quirky car brand.
@VBmike2100
@VBmike2100 4 года назад
Fun fact: the Outback is only .7 inches (1.8 cm) longer than the Legacy. So not much stretching going on
@s277garage6
@s277garage6 2 года назад
Alltrack 100% they are actually a farily good platform for making power. Plus manual bro.
@llxMIMICxll
@llxMIMICxll 4 года назад
You guys should’ve reviewed the Onyx XT model of the Outback!
@spol1622
@spol1622 3 года назад
That would be different price range..
@alexandermikhailov2481
@alexandermikhailov2481 3 года назад
I've owned both. Subaru was so-so, nothing to write home about but I just loved my Alltrack, so much fun and refinement!
@aluminumfalcon552
@aluminumfalcon552 Год назад
Exactly the same here. Went from a 2nd gen Forester (HATED) to an Impreza (loved the handling after wheel and tire upgrade, HATED the CVT, forced to upgrade stereo and Dynamat interior to make freeway driving tolerable) to an Alltrack with a tune (my favorite car I have owned, even better than my 3.5 Altima SE). I plan to drive my Alltrack until the wheels fall off, or until I can afford an RS3.
@alexandermikhailov2481
@alexandermikhailov2481 Год назад
@@aluminumfalcon552 I'm still driving my Alltrack, not a single issue for 102k miles and counting. I'm also dreaming about an RS3 😄
@aluminumfalcon552
@aluminumfalcon552 Год назад
@@alexandermikhailov2481 I have a short commute, I’m only at 42k miles on my 2017. Glad to hear yours is holding up well.
@Anonymousleft
@Anonymousleft 4 года назад
Thank you thank you thank you for doing this. Wagons are so damn underrated.
@ian9945
@ian9945 4 года назад
I know that the Outback may be based on the Legacy but it is no wagon in my book. It’s taller, wider, and heavier, than compact SUVs (e.g. RAV4) and bears no more exterior resemblance to the Legacy than any other Subaru does.
@danielmad
@danielmad 4 года назад
I have a 2017 VW Alltrack in red, and i simply love that car. Just as you guys mentioned in your original All-track video, it's like the perfect family hauler. Drive's like a car, and has plenty of room in the back. Brand new, the suspension's a little harsh, but after a few years, it softens just enough so it's stable and comfortable. Think of it as breaking in a new pair of sneakers, that don't turn to mush afterwards. I believe VW is only selling the stockpile of 2019 Alltrack/Sportswagens for 2020 in Canada only, as the Canadian Market just loves this car, as i believe it's already been discontinued in the States.
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 4 года назад
Subaru, I have a 2010 and since 2020 only one maintenance issue with crankshaft gasket after 180,000 miles. Other than that still same factory battery and everything else from spark plugs to water pumps. 10 years 1 issue, they got me for life.
@UH60
@UH60 4 года назад
2017 Alltrack SEL...best car I've ever owned
@Guitarman1959
@Guitarman1959 4 года назад
2019 same (6 spd)) SE
@netcruzer
@netcruzer 4 года назад
Love it *keep eyes on road* ranting
@scabaa2017
@scabaa2017 4 года назад
Pulled the trigger on a 2019 VW Alltrack back in Oct. based on your and Autogefühl's reviews. Love my Great Falls Green w/black interior 6 spd. manual! I would have liked to have gotten the Marrakesh brown interior but none were available anywhere near me. Just glad I got one before they are no longer available in the USA, which is a shame, because I absolutely love the car so far.
@jsggill
@jsggill 4 года назад
When you review vehicles like these you should mention cost to own, like mileage and what type of gas.
@wmalden
@wmalden 4 года назад
Best value in an AWD wagon is the Buick Regal Tour X. Discounts of $8,000 to $12,000 are the norm. Ground clearance is not good, though. Otherwise, it rocks! I have a 2018 and love it !
@christianyousef7615
@christianyousef7615 4 года назад
That’s my dad driving his work van, it’s a small world 15:49
@railfanatic1416
@railfanatic1416 4 года назад
That's so cool
@christianyousef7615
@christianyousef7615 4 года назад
Railfanatic I honestly have no idea if this is sarcasm
@railfanatic1416
@railfanatic1416 4 года назад
@@christianyousef7615 no, sry about that
@christianyousef7615
@christianyousef7615 4 года назад
Railfanatic Thats so cool
@railfanatic1416
@railfanatic1416 4 года назад
@@christianyousef7615 I agree
@deanmarr785
@deanmarr785 4 года назад
Alltrack with a GTI turbo. Turns the car into a 300hp sleeper.
@stefkovBG
@stefkovBG 4 года назад
that exists but only in Europe
@t1mlocas
@t1mlocas 4 года назад
​@@stefkovBG Basically you just need an IS20 turbo, a downpipe + ECU flash. Done for less than 2500$ CAD on mine ;)
@deanmarr785
@deanmarr785 4 года назад
@@t1mlocas Less than that if you swap the turbo yourself.
@t1mlocas
@t1mlocas 4 года назад
@@deanmarr785 true ! I paid 400$ in time for the DP/turbo insallation !
@Arcticarc1
@Arcticarc1 4 года назад
Had a GTI before, the lack of power in my alltrack is my only regret. I will Unitronic stage it at some point closer to the end pf the warranty
@nickgarofolo4316
@nickgarofolo4316 4 года назад
Great review guys. I got a 2018 Alltrack SEL with a JB1 tune. Changed the whole driving experience with the extra power. Although I “downgraded” from a BMW X6, I absolutely love this car. It’s too bad they’ll be discontinued.
@timhenry7627
@timhenry7627 4 года назад
Outback XT would blow the doors off of the Golf.
@mattyee9369
@mattyee9369 4 года назад
@Jonathan Losito Not a fan of Volvo's reliability and awd system.
@bbthing68
@bbthing68 4 года назад
What about the 2020 Outback XT (with turbo). Should have used it instead of the normally aspirated engine.
@CantorDib
@CantorDib 4 года назад
bbthing68 I have a 2020 Outback Touring XT with the turbo- this thing will blow any VW away- fast is an understatement and on a 4 cyl not the 3.6 which, I can speak about since my prior car was a 3.6 Outback Limited 2017. I do agree with the annoying keep your eyes on the road- most of the safety features do have sensitivity controls in the settings. The map that comes standard on the touring ( not Apple CarPlay) is nearly the full 11.3” of screen. I wish it had been a bit wider. This car has a better ride the my previously leased Lincoln MKS turbo. The cup holders are very good accommodating short and my tall Panera coffees. I have folding side view mirrors. What makes them stand out is that they can manually be activated while moving in reverse so not only do they tilt in reverse, but you can fold them at any point allowing you those few extra inches to get out of the garage. Subaru’s come with automatic deicing windshield wipers. As for the headlights, Subaru’s come with headlights that track with turning- does the VW? The Subaru has an adjustable thigh extension.
@pta3407
@pta3407 4 года назад
Ok, I've owned my Krautback (Alltrack) for almost 2 years now and I'm seriously considering the Crosstrek (Touring) or Outback (Convienience), in fact I was actually at the Subaru dealership yesterday while my Alltrack was getting its service done at VW. As good as this video was, and it brought up some good comparisons, but it completely ignored the off-road capabilities between the two, which IMHO, is an important thing to consider if you're looking at these two vehicles. If you're looking for more of a daily driver for 2 people, with some very light off-highway on the weekend, then the Alltrack is a good car. But, if you want comfort for a family or really go into the back country, the Outback wins hands down. Subaru's AWD system is far superior to VW's front wheel biased 4Motion Haldex, even on a snowy highway. The extra ground clearance on the Subaru is night and day if you really want to get off the beaten path as is the angle on the front/rear bumpers. The Outback was designed for exactly what it was designed to do, go off the beaten path with lots of gear, and the little features like the roof rails or the step plate in the rear door show that. While the roof rails on the Outback look massive, they're completely functional with retractable cross bars (not sure why no car vlogs ever bring this up) and built in tie down points while the Alltracks are flimsy and unspectacular. The Alltrack on the other hand is nothing more than a slightly lifted Sportwagon and the only two things that make it stand apart (besides the little bit of extra ground clearance) is the plastic cladding and hill descent control, thats it. Honestly, I think VW missed the mark on this one and really should have put a bit more thought into the practicality of the vehicle. The biggest plus for the Alltrack is the available manual transmission, no question about that. The CVT and infotainment system on the Outback are the two downfalls on what would otherwise, be a superior vehicle. The Subaru actually has a resale value, the Alltrack does not. Dollar for dollar, the Outback simply provides you with more value. On a side note, the big hole in the rear valance is indeed for a trailer hitch, the European models actually have a retractable hitch from the manufacturer but here in North America, VW does not advise any towing. Also, if you get the base trims in both vehicles, they're literally within $30 of each other.
@kylebudd5479
@kylebudd5479 4 года назад
pta 340 if you actually care about going off road, and straight out practicality you probably need a discovery or a land cruiser, the golf is Ann infinitely better CAR for car purposes, and the Subaru is better off road, but the new Subaru system is nowhere near the the old one and the actual car is now front biased, and it’s worth noting the VW’s current gen drivetrain is proven to be pretty bullet proof whereas all the current gen of Subaru drivetrain has only really proved to be troublesome (endless gearbox failures and even a good few snapped cranks and coked up pistons. If you actually want an estate to go off road, your best off with a previous gen allroad or a first gen forester
@TheFoxyy18
@TheFoxyy18 4 года назад
@@kylebudd5479 The car is NOW front biased? Every modern Subaru has been a transversely mounted FWD car with a rear diff for AWD.
@dimdim3490
@dimdim3490 4 года назад
Subaru engines were always longitudinally mounted with large amount of power going to rear wheels ALL THE TIME. These days rear wheels in certain situations could be getting less than 10%.
@TeRRm0s
@TeRRm0s 4 года назад
@@kylebudd5479 "if you actually care about going off road, and straight out practicality you probably need a discovery or a land cruiser" You know that Land Cruiser is almost 3 times more expensive right?
@Eatmykellogs
@Eatmykellogs 4 года назад
Timay if you care about expenses, it’s not like it would be worth it to lose money on a trade for a car that’s barely any better in off-road situations. If that’s why you want to sell a car, why not get something that’s actually good off-road instead of a piece of crap Subaru with a CVT?
@cruiseadmiral
@cruiseadmiral 3 года назад
A nice entertaining video. I have bought 2021 Outback not because I love it that much, but because I did not find a better car for me within its class (compact crossovers - CR-V, Rav4, etc.) But VW? Never.
@FreewayBrent
@FreewayBrent 4 года назад
That infotainment on the Outback does indeed look like a nightmare to operate while driving. Glad my 2018 Kia Rio infotainment is so intuitive and easy to use that I don't even need to look at the screen to know what I'm doing.
@simplyseven007
@simplyseven007 4 года назад
SUGGESTION: when you guys list Torque and BHP, could you also show curb weight at the same time and show power-to-weight ratio (HP/curb weight). The higher the number the better performance. Thx
@timmyadam3542
@timmyadam3542 4 года назад
The alltrac is for sure the nicer to drive, and spec'd. But if expecting years of life w/o German car repairs I'd have to go subaru. Plus that awd system is one of the best examples. Outback also has the bigger trunk. Perfect for pups
@clairekennedy8767
@clairekennedy8767 4 года назад
I love wagons, I wish Americans would buy more wagons instead of SUV
@clairekennedy8767
@clairekennedy8767 4 года назад
Jonathan Losito what
@baronvonjo1929
@baronvonjo1929 4 года назад
Arent any good wagon choices in the US :(
@clairekennedy8767
@clairekennedy8767 4 года назад
@@baronvonjo1929 because people aren’t buying
@toddcraig1726
@toddcraig1726 Год назад
Ride comfort mpg, reliability, towing capacity, versatility (ground clearance, roof rails, off road capability) maintenance cost, etc....make the Outback a better choice IMO.
@bbg1634
@bbg1634 4 года назад
1) Safety - Subaru 2) Retained value - Subaru 3) company that doesn't lie about it's pollurion - Subaru 4) Keep the car 10+ years - Subaru
@Splendid_Lad
@Splendid_Lad Месяц назад
Not everyone keeps a car for 10 years. Life’s too short to drive boring cars forever.
@mattyee9369
@mattyee9369 4 года назад
I've worked for Subaru and VW. VW needs the warranty more. After warranty, the Subaru is a better choice as it is more reliable, and less plastic. The Outback has plastic trim, but Golf has plastic parts that break more often. The cost to own is less with the Subie. Very reliable, safe, capable, and Outback's awd system is way better.
@jeffgroves4533
@jeffgroves4533 Месяц назад
lol but the CVT sucks so it really affects the awd
@tyroonblack903
@tyroonblack903 4 года назад
I drove the alltrack while my gti tcr was at the service and I have to say, I was impressed, really comfortable and makes you feel like you could do 1000 km without any problems
@Subie-Driver
@Subie-Driver 4 года назад
Boy...did you guys ever blow this review. Subaru is a better car...in quality, longevity, and AWD. You can’t compare a symmetrical AWD to a slip and grip AWD system...it’s like comparing apples and oranges...doesn’t work.
@PatrickWilliamsI
@PatrickWilliamsI 4 года назад
The better and more appropriate comparison would be Golf Alltrack vs Subaru Crosstrek.
@fleeglebingo
@fleeglebingo 3 года назад
VW Alltrack all the way. The German engineering is so evident, smooth and, dare I say, sophisticated. Too bad, VW is stopping production.
@TYFLOL
@TYFLOL 4 года назад
the bashing of the Subaru Canada advertisement felt GOOD! Car manufacturers shouldn't get away with distracting infotainments
@akejohansson2860
@akejohansson2860 4 года назад
The Outback and Forester are staple where i live,north Sweden.. .the ski tourists drive more expensive like Tiguan r, Volvo suv , BMW etc. Subaru and Toyota are the hillbilly's dream car around here. Good vidja!!!
@evalonious
@evalonious 4 года назад
Yea! Golf wins!!! If they would just start mass producing and distributing the Golf R Estate Wagon to Canada and N America (in that gorgeous blue) then and only then would our fair continent have the ultimate vehicle of practicality and fun. Thank you very much.
@elestromusicgamesfun1101
@elestromusicgamesfun1101 Год назад
I drive a Golf Alltrack and I don't regret it one bit. A very good car, esp during our winters here. The outback is 5000 - 10,000 more expensive too
@MattSump
@MattSump 4 года назад
The CVT in Outback kills it for me. (Wife currently has 2017 Alltrack)
@giladtselniker8420
@giladtselniker8420 4 года назад
Subaru cvt's are great.
@MattSump
@MattSump 4 года назад
@@giladtselniker8420 They're a perfectly fine CVT if you don't mind CVT. But like Jakub, deal breaker for me.
@saturndesigns2339
@saturndesigns2339 4 года назад
Yep. The golf is now dead in America other than performance models so my mom got one of the last 2019 models with a manual and I guess we are keeping it for as long as possible now since there is nothing left like it with a manual.
@ozzless
@ozzless 4 года назад
I actually prefer Subaru's CVT over any robotic crap. This thing is incredible in heavy traffic, and basically the same as DGS on the highway.
@ontarioman6301
@ontarioman6301 3 года назад
Las the Subaru CVT fails after 100000 miles. Just Google on it
@edwardlaw797
@edwardlaw797 3 года назад
Which car is roomier? Especially rear leg rooms where my wife & kids will sit. Rear headroom, quietness & 10hr long drive comfort test/seat comfort? I think they are 2 different size vehicles. Outback's interior especially the rear is larger than just about anything out there, right? I mean I can't find a single Medium and Large Size SUV with larger rear leg room and headroom.
@moonsapling
@moonsapling 4 года назад
Call me when a stock Alltrack climbs a level 4 jeep trail. I will be changing my CVT fluid untill then.
@howardkerr8174
@howardkerr8174 4 года назад
Would love to find an All-Track with a manual, but they are the proverbial unicorn of cars.
@joemikey278
@joemikey278 4 года назад
I have the Subaru, I also have a right glass Eye. All I need to do is make sure I twist my glass eye so it’s looking straight ahead. I NEVER Have to deal with that stupid warning !!!!!
@Databyter
@Databyter 4 года назад
If you are worried about power get a subaru GT Turbo 2.4 If you need a manual and want to save money get an Altrack. If you want something that can really handle rough slippery terrain better get the Subaru. I don't know what to think about the infotainment stuff. It sounds like software that can probably be upgraded at some point. It sounds like legitimate complaints, but for most of us, we aren't rewinding Sat feeds while we drive, or even when stopped. Just let me plug in my Bluetooth nicely or find a good station, and Im fine. Id be more concerned about SPEAKERS and AMPS than controls. And honestly a bigger screen does help keep your eyes on the road longer because you have bigger targets when you side glance. It is not a detractor for me that the system knows when you are doing that. It means the system works. Also, I believe you can turn it off. I think if you are a city guy you are gonna lean towards the VW and if you are a camper outdoorsy person you are gonna lean more towards the Subaru. I had the basic Sub engine in a previous version, and it is not a racecar, but it always did what I wanted it too. That being said, I think I will go with the GT version if I got another Outback. More tow capacity and sportier ride with still reasonable MPG. Which again, like Speakers and sound, was not mentioned unless I missed it. But overall, thanks for the review. Databyter
@baryonyx9642
@baryonyx9642 4 года назад
I love golfs..I just can't accept what they did in diesel gate. Never saw Volkswagens the same way ever since.
@stevenf927
@stevenf927 4 года назад
Most car manufacturers - heck most large corporations - have skeletons in their closets.
@baryonyx9642
@baryonyx9642 4 года назад
@@stevenf927 yeah, I know that. But this one affected me personally. So it hits me differently I guess..
@pta3407
@pta3407 4 года назад
@@stevenf927 Thats a pretty big skeleton.
@nsbioy
@nsbioy 4 года назад
@@baryonyx9642 people are usually effected by their parents unless they are conceived in vitro. Just sayin'
@baryonyx9642
@baryonyx9642 4 года назад
@@nsbioy ??? What are you on about mate?
@iandyck9605
@iandyck9605 4 года назад
We went with the Outback in 2018 as it has a tow rating, 2700lbs, in 2020 its now 3500lbs. The Alltrack still has no tow rating in Canada for some reason... booo
@MarkRVillano
@MarkRVillano 4 года назад
I've heard that the 2020 Outback XT with the turbo is an entirely different driving experience with a 5.7 second zero to sixty time. That's almost three seconds faster than the model you were testing.
@AcrossTownRC
@AcrossTownRC 4 года назад
lol that's almost the same as my 05 wrx
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk 4 года назад
Base model outbacks have always felt underpowered, the flat-6 is always the best. The XT is quick but unreliable.
@MarkRVillano
@MarkRVillano 4 года назад
@@mrjohnnyk I agree. The fancier and more complicated these new cars get, the more I worry about the long term cost and reliability. I would be scared to death of owning a super-charged, turbo-charged, plug-in hybrid AWD Volvo V90 with eight gears, an air suspension, and all of the safety nannies after that contraption is out of warranty. My prediction is that the average buyer won't even be able to afford to purchase and own them used. This is why Mercedes and BMW models lose so much of their value after three or four years. They suck you into The Black Hole of Maintenance, where every problem is a $2,500 repair.
@atticusimage1544
@atticusimage1544 4 года назад
This seems like a strange comparison as the Outback is a much bigger car. Wouldn’t its more direct competitor from VW would be the Passat Alltrack?
@harrismi7
@harrismi7 4 года назад
The VW looks like it's wearing a freshly pressed suit, the Subaru looks like it's wearing a baggy set of sweats.
@michelt4390
@michelt4390 4 года назад
I guess it would match the personality of the owner. The VW will be happy driving in the city... the Outback will have fun driving to the cabin in the wood
@artilleryisbetter
@artilleryisbetter 4 года назад
Subaru hands down!! Modern VWs are terrible terrible cars!! They turn to utter junk after 5 years/60k miles.
@xsaver23
@xsaver23 4 года назад
all track with a stage 1 tune is all u need
@skinnybricks
@skinnybricks 4 года назад
Yuuup. That's what I did to mine.
@Buffy2222
@Buffy2222 3 года назад
Does it invalidate the warranty?
@timdevisser4947
@timdevisser4947 2 года назад
@@Buffy2222 depends
@crumbybooch1851
@crumbybooch1851 4 года назад
Honestly that Subaru is just snooore. It’s very much an old man’s car. The golf alltrack is definitely more fun and in my opinion simple is better as the Germans do best.
@brandonreiter4903
@brandonreiter4903 4 года назад
I love my 2013 Outback! I really want to get a new one!
@Only9mm
@Only9mm 3 года назад
They're worth it! I just got a new 2021 XT Outback and it's amazing. I Love it. You won't regret it.
@eljayy91
@eljayy91 4 года назад
The Alltrack is hideous in my opinion. The front end is so short and thin it looks like a duck beak. It also just looks very plain and boring. As soon as you see the Outback you just want to pack it up and go for a road trip adventure. I do agree about the Outback infotainment though, that thing is just a mess!
@SirLongfootBigNose
@SirLongfootBigNose 4 года назад
Outback xt or legacy xt
@sierramalella
@sierramalella 4 года назад
Subaru all the way. Don't like VW's at all but this is just my opinion. Also feel like vws are more likely to break down before a Subaru.
@benshaver719
@benshaver719 4 года назад
The Subaru content I've been craving!! ♥️
@phillipweissburg1882
@phillipweissburg1882 4 года назад
The VW buyers have the opportunity to spend hundreds on a new Clutch eventually and because its German....U pay top dollar
@csechrist1
@csechrist1 4 года назад
I've always considered the Outback to be a wagon-shaped SUV and the Alltrack to be a tall wagon so some parts of the test aren't quite comparable in my opinion. However, these two vehicles do get shopped together a lot so overall a good comparison.
@spencersmith2402
@spencersmith2402 4 года назад
I really don’t get why you guys are ragging on them for being slower and also the transmission on the Subaru. Stop trying to hold these cars to the standards you do for a sports car because of course it’s not going to live up. People buying these cars are not going to be thinking like that when trying to buy it. They are everyday people using the car to drive around town and go to work. And when you do a review and are ragging on it for not being as good as a sports car it almost makes the car sound bad when it’s really not for the people who are going to be buying it.
@jorenallard9443
@jorenallard9443 4 года назад
VW did good to make themselves the "jack of all trades" manufacturer. For most scenarios: just get a golf.
@ObserveJeremiah
@ObserveJeremiah 3 года назад
No mention of the fact the Outback has a 260HP XT model. Which is wayyyy faster than Alltrack.
@erdemkucuk4219
@erdemkucuk4219 4 года назад
Review the mercedes all-terrain and the audi allroad!
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