2020 Winnebago Forza 34T - Small Class A Diesel 

We just looked at one of these today so I immediately wanted to see if you have reviewed one. The three things I love about this RV are 1) the overall floor plan - open living space, lots of counter space and having a washer and dryer 2) the adjustable bed 3) that the front seats have the extendable footrest ( which I learned watching your video) The three plus things I dislike about this RV are: 1) I wish the entertainment center had a pop up TV with another window behind it. I don't always want to TV but can always use another window. 2) I agree with you on the workstation space at the front for the passenger. Laptop trays that slide out of the dash seem more useful. I'd also like to see a standard outlet near that seat to plug in a laptop. 3) I wish there was a ladder mounted to the back for roof access, even if it's a partial one oh, so that's one less thing I would have to carry. 4) I did not like that the cabinet behind the dinette could not be opened all the way 5) the phone chargers on the nightstand are wasted unless you have that type of phone. I would rather see built-in USB ports or outlets Thank you for all your great work reviewing these RVs, especially for newbies like us!

3 Things I disliked - Slides, Only one door to the whole rig, glass shower door 3 Things I loved - The kitchen is AMAZING, the washer dryer, the cameras in the mirrors. p.s. I just like helping you with your channel. We're up in Washington State so buying isn't an option but I dearly love your reviews. "The Matt-Jump" ~David from Texas♥

Thank you! I love it when you jump in the air! 😂😂😂

Andrea is doing a great job! I dont like the peninsula sink sticking out. Reclining sofa has a higher neck support which is good, but needs to have leg support. Bed needs to be at least Queen size.

3 dislikes: 1) The love seat. Hate it. Would much rather have theater seating that reclines with foot rest. 2) The fire place. Looks nice but think it's needed. 3) The passenger seat needs bigger tray. I can imagine the passenger may want to work while on the road. Having bigger tray or some sort of slide out in the dash would be more functional.

I don’t like: the passengers seat so far back, I wanna see! The pantry will get blocked when the slide is in. I don’t like that plastic door latch, that won’t last a month with my family lol. I love: that floorplan! The washer dryer and the external storage bays. There ya go! Your plan worked you showed in my recommendations! 😻

As a wife, you have a responsibility to make sure Matt throws away those pants because something is seriously wrong with his zipper. Help the guy out!!!! On the flip side, I watch Matt because I like your honesty and you are awesome at what you do!

The item you didn't know about was the breaker box - Winnebago doesn't use fuses. The 2 extra batteries were not for the refrigerator, but were the engine batteries. Also, your fly was open. Other than that, it was a good video. Andrea - great job - I don't know how you deal with this man - lol.

Dude, I think you need to do your proper research on any RV you show before you do a video! Your a great guy, but too many F ups are gonna cost you in the long run. You don't know enough about the engines and transmissions systems. The specs said the hitch was 10k, not 5k. I feel bad about calling you out on these things, but if you don't wise up your gonna loose out. Do what's right for yourself and your customers.😊

Winnebago builds very well designed coaches in my opinion. Matt just a suggestion you might try going to as many Motor coach factories so you can see the difference in how they are constructed - again just a suggestion. Their coach is constructed in prefab sections example the storage bays are welded and hung on each side as a whole assembly. This insures that the whole assembly is square so that when they are hung the floors - walls are still very square for very nice fit of its walls and roof plus it reinforces the chassis frame for a much stronger coach. The high rail frame coaches have a higher center of gravity than the low rail coaches thus the lower frame rails provide a somewhat handling coach. Yes the interior seems a bit plain but when my Wife and I were looking for a new coach the only interiors we found were of the really high gloss finish which just didn’t suit us. This was why we purchased our used ForeTravel coach it has a more comfortable feel to it. Will you be getting in Winnebago’s newer Grand Tour model these are very nice coaches and for their pricing they should sell pretty good. We had thought about a new Grand Tour but the largest engine is a 450 HP Diesel engine and at the time we could not special order the 605 or 650 HP Cummins because of the buying contract they have with their present frame and chassis manufacturer. We tow a large trailer at times and the larger engine really helps. Your Wife does a really good job and I bet your very thankful she films for you. It seems like her female input would be or could be very helpful relating to your female audiences - suggested by my wife. Winnebago is known for their quality of products used - construction and designs. I think the front passenger seat swivels to face backwards also. I didn’t see if you commented about no latter - my bad but at 74 I do ok LOL. I prefer and own one of the small extendable ladders verses one on the rear of the coach that hardly ever gets used by myself and possibly falling. I don’t care for the looks of them ether they are dirt catchers. I saw many things that I liked and I can’t really think of any real nitpicks worth mentioning at this time. But put me near one in person and I am sure to mention some of both. Thanks Matt and a big a Thanks to your wife also.

You are friggin' hysterical. I so enjoy your reviews - you should take your show on the road! LOLL Thanks for the tour! - MJ

You should not be allowed to do videos of these RV’s. It is clear you have no idea what you are doing. If you are showing an RV you should go over it before you film so you know what things are and how they operate.

So does your new bosses watch your videos, do they think when you say s$&! And poop do they think your funny!! I’m sure they watched your previous videos right??corn poop, that was pretty funny. As a new boss I’m not sure I would be laughing though, just saying. After saying all that I enjoyed your video.

You're one slick salesman Rip to the checkbook of anyone who gives you a call

One of my favorite things about your reviews is that your honest and it's ok NOT to know everything about an RV. Even experts are constantly learning. I am looking forward to getting into a RV this year and as a first time buyer, found my sales guy. 🤣🤣. Will definitely make the trip to Ocala this year. 😎😎

Hey Matt, just wanted to let you know that the profanity comes off as a little unprofessional in your videos. Also it would be a good gesture to show your wife as women would want to see her also as part of your team.

This is a coach of interest to us. We have owned four diesel pushers from 30" to 40". We are looking to downsize and this layout fits up perfect. We like how there is room on each side of the bed to get in with ease. I like the center entry. I like how the slide on the passenger side is the narrow side making it easier to get into the storage. I am curious as to why there isn't a ladder to get on the roof. The endless water system may be a bit concerning. Is this a fancy word for tankless? We had a tankless and had problems with it because it was volume controlled. That was a 2016 model though. Is this the same? I am familiar with the 340 motor and had good luck with it on two of our four. I hope to buy a Forza 34T within six months. Still doing research because I have only owned Tiffins and American Coach. I am somewhat concerned about quality. Very nice video and I will subscribe. Thank You.

I like the co-pilot space with the mid entry door, the sleekness and color scheme I don't like that it looks basic that's about it

I Love your videos, just subcribed Andrea you are doing great!!!

"she was expecting something bigger" What all woman says LOLOL

Glad to see you're back making videos need to have Jen & Will give your wife a few tips on keeping up with you Speedy lol and zip your fly so you don't lose your PG rating.

Here in British Columbia the price in Cdn $ is $289,995 List: $354,995. Approx 220, 000 USD Plus 13% tax! Likes full body paint, drive train, kitchen. Dislikes no ladder, solar/nicad option? and the bed size. PS what were those things in the compartment, looks like fuse panels?

MSRP is way too high for an "entry level" coach. If length is the only thing that makes it entry level you might as well go bigger and get more usable space. There really isn't much difference in driving a 34' and a 45'. You just need to allow for more passing distance and maneuvering space. If you decide you want something larger you've already taken a depreciation hit and it'll hurt when you trade it for bigger. Buy your last coach first. Don't like the mid entry. Personal opinion is it wastes countertop-kitchen/ or seating space. Same goes with the fireplace. Some people love the mid entry and fireplace so take it FWIW. The coach is 50amp service but it has a small generator. Don't know why these companies do that. Ok, I do... $$. I like the shower size. Small shower is a dealbreaker. Nice to have a stacker washer dryer instead of a combo or none. This actually has a lot more counter prep space than a lot of them. The back corner may be a stretch but you can park fixins and stuff there while you're working. Couldn't tell as the video didn't get close enough, but those buttons in the bays look like they could have been breakers for the power distribution. I guess you've already figured it out since the video is almost two months old.

Very nice coach. Needs a bigger sofa. ☺️. Also, i know everyone loves all the leather seating because it’s easy to lean, but I would love to see cloth seating. Leather sweats 😓 me to death 💀 no matter how cold 🥶 i am. Plus it would not be a cold shock when you first sit down on cloth 😲🙄😬 and yes that bed is too small no matter how much you love someone 😁. One other picky thing is those front seats 💺 looks stiff 😂 like you dont sink down in the seat. I like to sink a bit like your getting a hug 🤗. Yea I know, it sounds stupid but i was to sink. Bahawhawhaw. And Andrea is doing a fine job. My likes are the nice bathroom shower with the seat, the washer dryer and the roominess although I’m not a fan of slides. Ok rant over. 😁 You make these videos fun.

3 likes. Winnebago build quality, appliances as a catch all and the TV/fireplace placement. As a segway, if a person owned a 1971 Winnebago Brave and wanted to restore it, most of the factory parts are available and a direct fit. They make most of the rig in house, so 20 years down the road, you can get replacement parts that work. 3 dislikes are, queen bed, recliner chairs(I'm sure it's an option and if not it'll fit) and no regular oven. We bought a house about 35 miles from Ocala, down here remodeling it but have to return home to Iowa soon. Incidentally we live about the same distance from the mother plant in Forest City Iowa and my wife used to make the fiberglass panels.

Things I didn't like... 1. No king bed 2. Don't like the desk for the passenger seat. 3. No ladder for roof (what other salesman would climb up on ....oppps, you can't) Things I liked... 1. Clean and modern interior 2. The driver and passenger seats 3. Stackable washer and driver Would have liked to have seen how it looked with the slide in.

Hey Matt and Andrea great job filming . Andrea great point about the stackable. Washerc and dryer. I agree Matt plastic mirrors not good for ax200,000 dollar motorhome. Did not like recliners some people love them i prefer a coach instead love space. Here is a thought that computer module outside wouldn't that be slides generators computer system outside the rv?? I don't know that is what im thinking. The sink was to smalk. The bed would be perfect for my wife and i. Thanks Matt keep up the good work.

Matt, you do the worst reviews on the internet. Hands down terrible! You just plow through the reviews like a big puppy. And every time you say snap I just cringe!. But I love your reviews, I subscribed after seeing just one video! You're doing a lousy but great job! Don't change a damn thing!

I can tell you know statistics, specs and things like that because thats how you are trained but like most RV salespeople you do not own one or if you do you have not used it much and it shows in your videos. You didn't even know what push button fuses where. Buy one start using it and you will learn what really matters to RVers which you will learn only thru experience tell camping stories to make a point , etc. I can look up specs online but show your customers why this feature is important to a RVer . Lose the cursing and jumping which is not professional for a RV salesperson putting something on youtube that thousands of potential buyers will see. Also ditch the monetize part of your channel. Very tacky for someone trying to sell something to have commercials in your review and it makes them lose intrest . You have a lot of personality and good sales potential just like anything else in life you always have to strive to improve. You work for a good outfit too. Not trying to beat you up but just giving you my opinion and constructive criticism.

There is no ladder. It takes too much time to generate air pressure. ( might be just that unit) Stupid sink covers. ========================== I love the large wind-screen. I love the tires and the overall size. I love the coziness of the bedroom.

Your wife is a sweet material and kind one tolerates your crazy. I like your crazy anyway. Who else dealer takes his ass up to the roof ? +Diesel,Plain,Sifisticated -Pricerange, the pass seat,bed

Likes: Beautiful Paint Design, that cockpit makes me swoon, the floorplan is really well done. Dislikes: Passenger-side Slide, Winnebago ridiculous perception they can charge so much more for that "W". , and the biggest and my personal show-stopper from even considering a Winnebago, NO Schwintek Slide Gears (and to boot, they use the absolute WORST slide gear system, guaranteed to break, sorry Winnebago, you have some morons running that part of your design team. Don't be mean to your wife Matt, she is doing her best and doing good. Love the Matt-Jump!

Oh gosh.. how did you publish this? Did you not watch before you posted it.. your zipper is down.. We are dying and can’t take you seriously... 😂😂😂

I don’t like passenger side slide, no rear bumper & ladder and can’t get shit on my feet! I do like your crazy acting, your not a know it all & you will be the one I buy from next~

3 this I like about this RV: 1. The layout inside, I agree with you, makes it feel like at home. 2. I like the cabinets - but see below 3. I like the touches of modern throught the coach, like next to the bed and recliners in the living room. 3 things I don't like: 1. The color of the cabinets, too dark, maybe something beige or white? 2. I didn't like the plastics also, but specifically the shower, I expected a single piece. 3. I agree your wife, the bed could have been bigger, lol

I don’t really like the whole thing. Way too simplistic, even for an entry level. Oh, and your fly was open the whole video. 🤣🤣

Get your wife on camera so we can meet her. Do a review of the new Outlaw 29s.

The great flooring (no carpet) ... thumbs up. Having to crawl under the slides to get things out of the basements and no fuel access on the passenger's side ... thumbs down. Also, it would help if you understood what you are showing before turning on the camera. Pretty sure those panels you had no idea about were the access panels for the circuit breakers and/or fuses. Cheers!

I like the fact that it is a diesel; that's a good investment. However, there is no way on earth I could afford that. I do like that it is smaller. Why have an RV if it is too small to take anywhere. I agree the appliances are great and the bed is too small.

I lost respect for you and your reviews after that poor unprofessional performance at the Newmar “booth” at the Hershey PA show. Don’t make a fool out of yourself. Clean up your language, if your dealership is selling Winnebago, I’d suggest you not call their bed selection getto sleep number.

A diesel pusher should have a front entry. I don't like that the couch, tv and fireplace are up front. When the passenger side slide comes in does it cover up the counter extension?

You’re doing a great job Andrea! Love your videos Matt, keep up the good work!

I like your energy but to much with the hands very distracting also you don’t know enough about the product your selling you should do your homework before the video

Three things I like: 1) Your enthusiasm about this RV and RVs in general 2) You are funny... great job... keep it up! 3) Your videos are very informative and you even bring up the price... excellent!

Hey Matt ....would you 0lease get a body microphone instead of the camera microphone?? Those black boxes are similar to a fuse/ breaker box BTW... your fly was unzipped ;)

Do not like that you probably will not be able to see the tv from the passenger front seat even if it's swivelled around and agree the couch should be a recliner. I also am not a fan of curbside slideouts.

the sports coach for $158 looks like a way better deal azdel +++ no W/d is all

He is in hurry to be billionaire by his video, that's why he have " NO IDEA WHAT IT IS"

Is that the ride height normally or does this have airbags and the air was out? Seems low to the ground.

Love large wheels, larger battery bank, layout Dislikes no ladder, recliners and no reel for power cord for the price.

Nice review. Good job even though you have not had training on this model yet. Likes • Sanitation Station • Residential Fridge • Overall quality Opportunities • Looks like it would be tight when slides are in • No ladder • Combined Shower and toilet. If someone is in the shower can someone else use the restroom?

Would love to see this with its slides closed. I do not want slides. Love the cabinets and closet and drawer space. Love my Winnebago. Will be looking for one to replace it in a few years.

Three things I like. I like the floor plan The way everything was positioned inside the coach . Storage space underneath. Three things I don't like How low it is. No ladder Size of the bed

Get a WINDSOCK, and USE it. If you find your audio is wonky dub it in post.

Likes -dash - color -technology Dislikes -slide out on the camp side -no air horn -type of theater seating

And you flossed. lmao Love it!

Dislikes: 1) slideout on passenger side, 2) looks too "entry level", 3) Washer/Dryer Likes: 1) TV/Fireplace, 2) Shower size, 3) Storage bay size & doors, 4) Your videos

Wheels are called chrome simulators , there caps that go over the plain Jane white wheels . Actually there easier to take care of then aluminum wheels . Only advantage to aluminum is that there lighter. Better fuel economy Supposedly. Alum wheels are a pain to take care of .

Likes 1) bed 2) storage 3) generator up front Dislikes 1) driver n passenger seats dont swivel around 2) theater seats no leg rest 3) slide on passenger side. It needs to be on driver side to cover up sewer hoses lol

Doing great in Florida! Its nice that the criws were louder than the traffic noise in the background! I would be worried about the really low ground clearance on this Forza! Like the floorplan....

I love your videos and I learn so much from you and love how brutally honest you are but for real how can you be so optimistic about this bus. There is something so non homey about it. Your points are usually in line with my feelings but this time you missed it. Dude. It’s so not homey. The colors. The wood. The lighting. I’m not a pro but that’s some of the things that stand out to me. Also the bus is soooo low to the ground. What were they thinking ? Thoughts ?

Great videos Andrea !!! Perhaps you should be doing the videos and let Matt work the camera. OH SNAP !!! NO HE DI ANT !!!

We actually went and looked at this coach last weekend (here locally). The part you were pulling on under the couch is the foot rest, which also becomes a part of the bed (which is why the seats fully recline). It took Teri three different Winnie's to figure that out, lol. Three things we disliked: Queen bed. Short height (11'11") makes it so the windows aren't tall enough for our liking. Would prefer a better table setup at the co-pilot's seat. Three things we liked: Interior storage. Logical television placement. (Hello, Tiffin? Are you listening?) Functional and not over the top with bling. I suppose this is where I criticize your language and exuberance. Nah. Keep being yourself.

Like: 1. Kitchen sinks and counter space. 2. Interior/exterior color scheme. 3. Interior finish quality. Dislike: 1. Location of exterior TV 2. 5,000 lb. tow capacity 3. Co-pilot desk too small

You need to be nice to your new camera person, even though she is your wife.

Good review Matt. The wife did a fine job just remind her when you start. To follow you soon as you start walking. And the jump clap sucks where ever state your in. Try golf swing Like Johnny Carson use to do.

We have a 17 The exact same model we love ours it also comes with a 3 year warranty and couch does have foot rest

Matt, Do any new DPs come with lithium house batteries? Thx!

Winnebago missed the mark on this one, features and price point

This RV was made for a GAMER:) that TV is HUGE:)

Not sure exactly when we’ll be in the market for an upgrade, but I think I’d definitely want to buy from you (central MD here). We’d be moving up from our current gas, 2016 Winnebago Vista LX 27N, which we’ve had virtually no problems with. The Forza is one of the models I’m most interested in if we go to diesel, particularly for the mid-entry door. (I’ll admit, the front entry door on most diesels just seems weird to me.) Also interested in Tiffins and Newmars (both gas and diesel), maybe Entegra, and, if we decide to downscale (in size not price necessarily), maybe Leisure Travel Van.

I love u ..... I would buy anything from u!!!! U have some serious humor..... so glad I found u ..... thank u .... were buying one soon .... your the 👨

Steel wheels with wheel simulators aka hub caps. The 2 panels are are circuit breaker 110-Volt AC and fuse circuit breaker 12-volt DC. Love to see you do a review on the new 2020 Fleetwood Fortis on the Ford F-53 gas chassis once they arrive.

I like the overall layout of the interior. Do you need to get a CDL to operate it? MISC. LIKES: side & rear cameras, side opening outside storage doors, two awnings, tankless hot water heater, fuel fill on either side Inside likes: TV is in the right spot (my hubby appreciates that), large kitchen counter space, large windows for driving, nice interior decor, big screen for driver navigation, great pantry space! Shower has a seat, pretty nice bathroom, bed for people who “love each other.” Touchless charging point. I’m really impressed. Would really like reclining sofa with foot rests, worry that there would be too much weight on the kitchen slide.

If this is all you can afford at least it's not the Palazzo. Lol

3 likes: 1. It is roomy, 2. It is gorgeous, 3. Entertainment and Fireplace 3 Dislikes: 1. The dinning table is a booth. I prefer a long couch with a pull up table and add chairs if I wish. 2. The drop down over head bunk should hold more than 350 pounds. I wish it held between 500-600 pounds. 3. The refrigerator is located in the hallway instead of more in the kitchen area.

Be nice to Andrea. You are snap lucky she tolerates you snap

👍 Smashy! Great job Andrea, don't beat up on Matt for he is a man who obviously doesn't know how good he's got it. L: fantastic interior living space, cabinetry is nice; kitchen and the appliances; bedroom space, north-south is great and as only a queen you've got plenty of walk around space; two awnings, wow!. D: no stove; odd recliners, quick call for factory repair; sure that the air horn is on the steering wheel and not a pull cable above and to left. Be safe you two,

Your fly is open. The sofa does have an ottoman that pulls out, then you can recline it all the way into a bed. This coach is actually rated to tow 10,000 lbs. and especially in Florida watch your swearing! Do not say "shit" on camera. I love the north-south bed (head hanging out into space is bad feng shui), the washer/dryer and the over cab electric bunk. I do not love the new super square sinks that are in fashion now because you cannot get square corners clean enough in a sink. Sinks need to be slightly rounded at the corners. You are funny but can improve a lot in product knowledge and pants zipping. :)

Matt you seem a little short tempered with Andrea today.

Hey Matt - I've seen you on some of the @LessJunkMoreJourney videos and now I see one of your own reviews. You passed right by the small locking door just in front of the steps on the passenger side of this Forza 34T. There's a bay in front of that little door, and there are bays all along the rest of the sides of the rig, but that small door, with a lock, so I'd think that it opens, you, nor any one else reviews. We'd like to know what it is and how big it might be. Is there a way you could answer me please?

Hey Matt we met you at the Tampa RV Show today and this is the RV (2022) we fell for. You took our information and Sandy from RV One called me less than 3 hours later. You rock and RVOne rocks!!

Checking out some older content during Pandemic 2020. I must say, I really like Winnebago styling. Equally as much, I dislike their prices.

Omg! This one is going to the top of our wish list! Night stands & kitchen counter tops & stackable washer/dryer... Oh my! Really the Only thing we didn't like was the couch/recliner which wasn't actually a recliner.- so odd.

This salesman has no idea what he is doing. If I was on the lot, I would demand another salesman or I would walk. This guy don't know what circuit breakers are. FIRE HIM............NOW!

Congratulations on the smoking hot wife! You give hope to all of us pudgy guys.

Hey Matt, your wife is doing a great job, but she stands so far away sometimes! I'm glad she's helping you do videos!!! So maybe when you get Winnebago training you can answer what the heck a "Pet Palace" is! They say their Adventurer 27N, 30T, and 33T have it the bedroom for example but nowhere can you find details or pictures of what the heck that actually is!!! Love the videos, like this model alright... I love the TV viewing angle and the separate washer and dryer.

Matt, How about a new video on the 2021 34T.

You did not show us what it look like inside with the slides in

Praying that the Lord will deliver me this one paid in full. I trust that he will deliver even if I don't see no way through. With that said, I thank him in advance for this gift. In Jesus name, Amen and Amen

Hi, Im usually laughing about the unique experiences about RV'ing but please, shut up about the "poop" and stop swearing! otherwise its a good tour.

❤️ Winnebago exclusive all Steel SupperStructure Cab safety first!! A must have! ❤️Rust proofing e-coating ❤️Floorplan awesome 🙁Low grade furniture and seats. Need Villa Furniture in this price point including driver and passenger seats. 🙁no metal foil wrapped A/C duct work. A Must Have especially in hot and humid climates. 🙁Engine way too small. Need more HP and torque especially in Colorado / high altitudes also when towing. 🙁kitchen window needs to be wider in width 🙁no exhaust hood directly over stove venting outside, current location of exhaust fan removes too much cool air in hot climates and heat in cold climates

Keep up the great content! Only one dislike, no ladder for you to get on the roof!

Three things I like about this review. 1. The new lot is huge! Lots of room to move around the RV's 2. You just made a huge change in your life and your still smiling and having a great time 3. That you give us 3 honest things you don't like about a rig even though your trying to sell them. You don't suck up. Three things I don't like about this review... 1. PLEASE show the RV's with everything slide in first! I love that about your other reviews. When we're looking at RVs that's whats so frustrating with most lots. They want to have everything slide out and pretty. But what I REALLY want to know is can I get up and take a pee while going down the road without having to do gymnastics to go to the bathroom. Or get something from the fridge! 2. You need a wind muff for the microphone. Sometimes it can get hard to hear over the wind noise. 3. That's it. Can't think of a third thing. Really enjoy your reviews. ;-) Oh and about this RV. 1. Love the mid door layout! I really hope more companies will make more of them! 2. Love the bed facing the RIGHT way in the back! 3. LOVE the dash and drivers area. 1. DISLIKE the way the front "hood" opens to service the generator 2. Don't like the little couch 3. Don't like how far the dash is from the passenger. Should have had MORE storage places up front.

That may be a peninsula BUT no man is an island... snap

The quality of construction is more important than the entry level look. Easy to accessorize to improve the look. Very impressed with the coach, although at 6’3”, concerned if I will fit. Especially the bed.

All of those things you didn't know what they were looked like resettable fuses

I like the large area in front of the passenger seat. Good place for our dog. She like that spot in our current RV but this would be more comfortable for dog and wife.

Winnebago: When you don’t want to get shit on your feet! Uhhhh....okay.

Matt the shower head that is in the forza is an absolutely terrific shower head by Oxygenics. Saves hot water and is very powerful. oxygenics.com is the website and having this shower head already installed (once people have the facts) is a fantastic selling point.