카메라 발로 찍으셨나..진짜 왜이리 멀리서 찍으셨는지..볼 때마다 빡침..댄브 음원 밀린 것도 애들 얼굴 말고 멀리서 찍고 이상한 카메라 무빙과 수빈이 인터뷰 도중에 마이크 꺼버리고 조명 꺼버린 것 절대 잊지 않고 있겠습니다 엠넷. 제발 정신 좀 차리고 일 해주세요. 몇달을 한 무대를 위해 연습했을 아이돌들을 생각해서라도 본인들이 책임져야 하는 부분은 끝까지 책임감을 가지고 해주세요 제발
진짜 맞는말입니다… 제발 정신 차리고 일하길 진짜 이 무대 댄브가 얼마나 예쁜데 박자 다 밀려서 괜히 우리 잘한 툽이들이 실수한것같아보이고 소감하는데 마이크 꺼버리고 누구보다 젤 당황한건 수빈이일건데 끝까지 열심히 소감 말했는데 속으론 얼마나 당황했겠어요 진짜 수빈이 입장에서는 엄청 황당할거에요… 그리고 저거 댄브 엄청 예쁜 안무인데 저걸 다 밀어버리네 진짜 딱딱 맞는게 포인트인데 하휴…
despite the bad camerawork and unsynced music, TXT's talent and the work they put in this performance can still be seen clearly. the boys did an amazing job!
@@Fearless.cat1209 throughout the performance, the camerawork was pretty bad. you'll notice this if you compare the camerawork with those of their stages on music shows. mnet zoomed out a lot and for long periods of time even though there weren't really major effects on the stage and the transition from face cams and choreo cams were not timed nicely (there were barely any face cams, too). for the unsynced music, it starts in the dance break at 2:54. you might not notice it that much (bc they danced really well) but if you compare it with their dance practice (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--twhSHNRmvM.html), you can see that the music here is slightly delayed which makes a big difference in the performance. hope this makes it clear :)
We all know by now that this was sabotage by MNET and CJENM, due to txt being fully Hybe. They decided to mess them up on purpose. With the Belift issue, we now know in 2023. If you look at le sserafim in 2022 MAMA. They did the exact same thing, they sabotaged camerawork intentionally and then panned and zoomed into other idols who's company CJ now has a collaboration with. very weird. we should all boycott them.
There is really a group that you want everyone to know how good and talented they are. And TOMORROW X TOGETHER is that group. Be it in making songs etc. But I'll be lying if I said I am not disappointed with the camera work, especially in LOSER=LOVER. But despite that, THEY DID GREAT AND DELIVERED HIGH QUALITY PERFORMANCE!
OMG ellos son SUPER INCREIBLES me encantó la presentación ahora la ROMPIERON estuvo increíblemente ASOMBROSA !!!!!!!!!!!! TOMORROW X TOGHEDER increíbles no tengo palabras para lo que acabo de ver simplemente 1 palabra¡ PERFECTOS !
When they were performing frost I want to scream at the camera to get close to their face too why did it have to be a wide shot but the dance break is amazing. TXT is amazing and the best.
Fr, I really am so upset, MAMA‘s shitty camerawork has been an issue for YEARS! Imagine preparing an amazing choreography and putting so much effort into the performance, JUST for the cameramen to say „Aight, let‘s zoom out real quick“ but like, 6 times. It must be so fucking tiring, smh. Why do artists even bother preparing a MAMA ver performance when they get disrespected anyway.
I came to see if anyone commented that! Because i watched alot of the other groups performances and they were really good but for some reason txt has the worst cameraman
THEY SLAYED W THAT POOR CAMERA WORK I WANT TO CRY FROST IS A FCKING MASTERPIECE !??? AND THAT DANCEBREAK WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THEIR STAGE BUT FCK MAMA RUINED IT !??!£@
after watching it again I am losing my mind ah this is so freaking annoying frost is all about their expressions and they didn't zoom in for once trying to show us their freaking cheap 3rd class effects and off beat music ok so disgusting ridiculous
TXT SLAYYEDD EVEN IF MAMA 2021 DID THEM DIRTY,THE DANCE,SONG,CHOREO IS VERY VERY GOOD BUT THE LIGHTING AND CAMERA WORK IS SO OFF COMPARED TO OTHER 4TH GEN GROUPS WHO PERFORMED AS WELL,IN ANY WAYS TXT DID WELL,KUDOS!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
everyone from txt's staff, backup dancers to their choreographer and visual director are mad right now because of the bad camera work , lighting and delayed audio YET TXT WAS THE BEST PERFORMER THIS YEAR THE TALENT AND THEIR AMAZING SONGS 🔥🔥🔥 SO PROUD OF YOU TXT THEY DESERVE BETTER
I can't believe that they do FROST on MAMA.... hshshshshsh I'm speechless and love ittttt!!!!!!! edited : why they look so handsome and Taehyun's hair plus Beomgyu's short hair complete the visual of the group!!!
Yess agree u can watch it with a better quality press the 3 dot n choose quality n then press advanced n choose the quality u want. ( I know alot of ppl know about this im just saying it to the ppl who don't know)
@@fmf2023 i think they were talking about the camerawork since like 70% of the time you have to zoom in to see their faces and not the camera quality though? im not sure 🧍♂️🧍♂️
THEY WERE AMAZING EVEN WITH THE BAD CAMERA WORK THEY FUCKING KILLED IT. AND THE DANCE BREAK OMG???? EASILY THE BEST PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR. STAN TXT!!!!
Not me, trying to zoom the screen because I can't clearly see their faces & performance😭. They nailed it even having that kind of camera works😪. Anyway OT5 deserves all the praises & award they received. Their vocal, visual & choreo our all rounder💖.
Msnake tried their best to hide txt's charm with bad camera work, poor lighting and making the audio off beat for them to dance but our TALENTED and AMAZING boys still slayed it and showed what they got and fed moas with an outstanding performance. TXT you did great and we're proud of you
@@safz15 the dance break was offbeat . You can watch the dance practice uploaded on txt's official yt where it was the actual synchronised music played but msnake just f it up
@@remynyscent yes it was the dance break , the main attraction of the performance was ruined by msnake but our boys still killed it. I was so into the performance that I wasn't even able to spot that it was offbeat untill I saw the dance practice. I feel really bad for them they deserve way better treatment .
Even the music in the dancebreak was delayed they still manage to be synchronized, that's how professional they are and also the camera work is so bad but TXT still slayed the stage.
THE CAMERA IS - God I WANTED to SEE their FACES , Like we get it your stage is big the audience is there but jeez I was trying to zoom in all the time. Seriously I already imagined this happening I've been there before with the chaos of cameras in kpop group's performances lol and they still don't learn but over all I loved the dance! TXT nailed the stage, and they looked so cool, ethereal. ❤
It’s so obvious Mnet is mistreating them, I hope bighit takes some action against Mnet if they can. Seriously…the impact of their performances were ruined by all the zoom outs… I’m so mad at Mnet ARGH
@Iuvryujin like I'm just tired of it, they done it ALL THE TIME I swear if other groups got the take then they were lucky and I'm proud and happy for them because mnet does it to whoever. But it shouldn't be a surprise, they do the same thing all the time, zooming in ZOOMING OUT to who know where. Like I said I was expecting it but its frustratiing..
@@bunnychub3247 yes you're right, they deserve better but this has been going on for years trust me mnet does whatever the f they want, many fandoms have complained and yet here we are with mnet being like this to this day. I swear.
Their charisma and visuals are no joke. So are their dancing and singing skills. Their choreography and stage performances were perfect. Their abilities were really extraordinary.
I don't understand why the camera didn't focus on their faces during the performance. The camerawork was poor, but TXT still gave their best. I am really proud of them.
It's because they wanted to show their "huge" stage ...it happened to all the performances I saw....also txt was very badly mistreated so it's understandable
@@bidishamistry8663 It’s also funny how they had so many zoom outs of their stage… the impact of their performance was literally impacted by all the zoom outs and I am so mad at Mnet for ruining this. But the boys still did their best and I am proud of them.
암넷이 암넷 했음 1. 리더 수빈이 소감 말하던 중에 조명이랑 마이크 끄고 퇴장하는 모습 안 잡아줌 2. 애들이 땀 흘리면서 열심히 준비한 댄브 음원 밀리게 함 (준비한 거에 비해 아쉽다고 하길래 처음엔 몰랐는데 투바투 공식 채널에 올라온 연습영상이랑 붙여놓으면 차이가 많이 남) +그래서 빅힛이 기다렸다는 듯 11시에 연습영상 공개함 3. 무대 보여주기 급급해서 줌인 해야할 땐 줌아웃하고 줌아웃해야할 땐 줌인함(그냥 발캠) 4. 타돌분들 3곡 보여주는데 투바투만 2곡 5. 6명이 함께 노력해서 준비한 오프닝 무대 영상 썸네일에 연준이만 없고 5명만 있음 (지금은 다시 넣었음) 6. 미니 브이로그 투바투만 없음
The dance break...the way they moved to the beat, the perfect synchronization of the members and the dancers, the execution of this concept and the expressions are cherry on top...they really know how to own the stage
TXT NEVER DISAPPOINTS !!!! That dance break was seriously THE BEST! Wow, so proud of these 5 extremely talented boys! Let’s give them a daesang next year Moa!
I literally has goosebumps all over my body throughout the performance. The power and impact txt has with their performances...I am literally so proud of them
TXT NEVER DISAPPOINTS! But the Camera Works Disappoints me!! I wanted to see their crazy facial expressions in Frost but everytime it's on that killing point the camera suddenly getting away from them 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ TXT nailed it, especially the break dance ❤❤❤❤❤ I just can't get over with frost performance..
The problem with the frost performance was that the backdrop of the performance was also a part of the stage and ig the cameraman wanted to have both on the screen so he had to zoom out most of the time....
Even with technical problem(during dance break, soundtrack they heard is delayed compared with what public heard) and bad camera work but you guys did a great job today. It's okay MOA will always proud of you guysss!!!
Taehyun glowing with his purple hair and mullet! taehyun and beomgyu dance break was so in synch, sookai killed it, yeonjun charisma . txt is another level and this award show doesn't even deserve them
CHOI SOOBIN!!! CHOI YEONJUN!!! CHOI BEOMGYU!!!! KANG TAEHYUN!!! HUENING KAI!!! TOMORROW X TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!! LOS AMAMOS CHICOS!! LO HICIERON ESPECTACULAR!!
LIVE VOCALS. INSANE CHOREO. GOD-LIKE STAGE PRESENCE AND ACTING. OUTFITS ON POINT. KILLER VISUALS. They are really truly bigger than 4th gens. They are on a league of their own 💙💙💙💙 Proud of you Tubatu!!!!!
man frost really is hyuka's song. the vocals (which I can't tell if they were live or not but idrc) were amazing and I really like the outfits 👀yeonjun's facial expressions were also top tier. I'm so proud of txt and they deserved better.
@@aubery11 kpop idols are insane, I can never actually tell if the vocal is live because of how stable it is. I would never ever look down on pre-recording when it comes to kpop because they have to dance. Of course it’s insanely impressive if they sing live, and of course there will be a back track so they can breathe properly and stuff. But yeah anyways txt insane I love them sm
Tbh I don't think it's live? It sounds like it was prerecorded but the audio is quite different to the studio version. I think they prerecorded it and mixed it differently than the studio version (it has a single vocal line louder than the others as is usually expected live but the tonal quality of it is quite different to their natural voices which is why I think it was edited). There's multiple tells for if something is live, the biggest one being able to hear a second vocal line over the backing track that is quite a bit louder and more unstable (especially if its volume differs between members) - of course it will be, since they're dancing and singing at the same time. That's usually the easiest to tell, so if there aren't really any awkward changes in volume then it's easier to think it's prerecorded (since Beomgyu for example has a very quiet voice, he's much harder to hear live than say, Taehyun, who sings much louder - this is mainly because of the difference in the way they sing). When they sing live and take pauses during some dance moves, the absence of the live vocal is noticeable, and therefore the easiest to notice (if you'd like to compare, you can notice these pauses easily with Changbin or Han from SKZ because even though their rap itself is extremely stable live, they choose to pause at times and you can hear that drop in volume, since the backing track would be adjusted to account for the additional volume of live vocals). This is harder to tell, though, when the backing track is turned up so loud that you can't hear some members to compensate for those pauses, in which case you can also look for other clues. Another tell, that I think is more obvious here, is if their voices have a bit of a tinny quality to them. Sure, that could be put down to bad mics, but they probably don't have terrible mics, and that tinny sound is usually associated with autotune and other tone adjusting edits. I think this was prerecorded and then put through some, imo, slightly strange mixing? It was most noticeable in the first verse, but the sound just as they shift between notes doesn't really sound like what voices normally do. Just to clarify, I'm not criticising them for not singing live (also I might be wrong), their dance is challenging and people have insanely high expectations of live vocals (mainly because prerecording and lipsyncing is much more common these days and people don't seem to be able to tell the difference between those and live more often than not).
@@aris5375 it’s because the technology is so good and I have heard idols (ateez for example) sing live during difficult performances (and they’re insane for that) that it’s so difficult to tell whether a group is singing live. I wrote “idrc” because I personally am not going to be upset if a group doesn’t sing live if they have intense choreography. If they do sing live that’s like a bonus. And I would like to hear more groups sing live from time to time because I feel it’s getting rarer as they are expected to be perfect if they do it at all. I think if you sing live and dance at the same time it’s expected that there will be errors. I think it’s cool, it reminds you idols aren’t perfect and then they probably feel better as artists getting to fully work all their skills they train for at once. I appreciate your comment, I think about this a lot and am trying to train my ear to tell whether idols are singing or not lol. usually now I can tell just because it’s obviously when they do a move like a jump or something you can hear it happen in their voice
@@fairypops yes that does make sense! I'm glad we have a similar perspective on this. IMO I do think idols should be singing live, and choreo should be adjusted to make that possible (besides, choreo is made to the song, not the song to the choreo). For me personally, it's more a matter of that, as idols, singing and dancing are both,,,, their jobs, so they should be doing both. Mind you, part of that may be because I myself really focus on vocals. I can't begrudge idols for not singing live though, since in part it's because with how packed their schedules are (and how little sleep they get etc.), their voices could be significantly more unstable. I also do think that labels should be giving idols more training on technique, but again, these are all issues stemming from various sources, and it's less something to be critical towards specific people for. I think fans should understand and be forgiving of the fact that live vocals simply won't sound like studio ones, but the dramatic increase in lip syncing, particularly during and after the pandemic, does nothing but encourage fans' impossible expectations (mind you, this is an issue in lots of pop music with how much vocals are edited - and then people forget what real voices sound like). I'd say it's somewhat of a difficult situation, in part I think that they have a responsibility to sing live (and if that requires simplifying the choreo for the person singing then that should be accepted). On the other hand I understand that there's tons of factors that make it difficult to do so, which is why, particularly for highly broadcasted performances like award shows, it is not unexpected for people to choose to pre record instead.
they had the best performance of the night you just can’t change my mind. frost choreo is so insane that not even the camera work could do it justice and the dance break is next level. they prepared so hard for this and they crushed this stage and nailed the performance. TXT BEST PERFORMERS
@@m3gh_28 every fandom is the luckiest in their own ways. I'm a multi stan I love & support a lot of idols. They work so hard for us, we should give it all from our side by supporting them and not letting other fandoms/idols down
Kai owns this song, I'm too stunned to speak, they didn't lie when they said MAMA perf was gonna be huge, although i'm a bit disappointed with the camera work and lighting..
Despite the fact that MAMA 2021 did them dirty, their performance is spectacular as usual, their visuals being god-tier, and they proved that they deserve to bag awards.
Just saw the comparison video of their mama stage and dance practice. They did txt so dirty with the lighting, camera work, off sound beat Either ways, I am so proud of the boys. They did absolute best today with their unmatched energy level, insane synchronization, top tier execution. I hope they won't regret for anything. As their fans, we all are so so proud
Huening Kai literally amazed me (^o^) His expressions, vocals, visuals, attitude, confidence omg he ate! I still can't believe, he's a different person on stage and off stage
i hate how the camera works like their facial expressions aren't much getting the screen time it deserves, anyway, TXT ate this and just wait bc THEY WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD.
yeonjun is an amazing performer and outstands between his peers, but at the same time it's getting too much every award show stage and comeback is yeonjun main character, they should try invest in each member coz ot5 are amazing performers, i saw from the same award show groups where each member gets to shine unlike txt stages are 90% yeonjun focused p.s i love yeonjun i just want things to be fair
Get your bitter ass out of here. The fact that some of yall are more miserable than antis. The other members had duo dance performances are you blind. And in every group, main dancers are in charge of dance performances but suddenly with yeonjun its a problem. The fact that even txt members always say how much they are thankful to have him during year end award shows. He is always in the spotlight?!! When tf?!! I think you are just so focused on him you can't see the others. Also a performance is not all about dance tyunning literally slayed them vocals. Stop being so bitter toward yeonjun he worked so hard for this and its not his fault he shines.
Wtf is this. Whenever other members get to shine yall go yess king but with yeonjun not the same energy. The fact that yeonjun doesn't have the most parts in frost performance and yet you felt the need to comment this. All members got center part or duo dance, You just don't like him don't lie. Get tf out jealous ot4
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