I can remember when I was 10 riding my Schwinn sting ray around the neighborhood looking at all the cool cars, my favorite was 69 RS-SS 396 ORANGE Camaro,my brothers favorite 63 SS 409 Impala, my friends was 70 hemi Superbird. My neighbor rolled his 68 Shelby KR500,it sat in his backpack for 10 years, I still have the Snake emblem I borrowed
Fantastic, as an owner of a '68 Roadrunner here in the UK for the last 38 years that runs similar times this was wonderful. My car has a 383, 3;23 gears and all steel bar the hood it goes 12.80s, 12;59 with a set of 4;10s. Great vid. I also have a '69 Dart and a '68 440 conv Fury, MOPAR for life Baby!! .
@@quantumss LMAO, you are nuts and have not done it then...the engine I built 30 years ago in my RR still does it on street tyres....the whole engine cost me £500 to build in '91 with a 484" hyd cam, stock valves......stroker kits and $7000k cylinder head kits were not avail back then, its simple🤣
FANTASTICALLY SHARP PURE STOCK. I HAVE 1969 OLDSMOBILE CUSTOM HOLIDAY COUPE; 455, WITH STATE TROOPER PAK, DISC BRAKES AND REAR DRUMS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD DRAG WITH A FLAT. BUT THEY ARE FANTASTIC STOPPING POWER. NEVER RACED HIM, WON A FEW PURE STOCK. BUT MY LAST DEPLOYMENT I GOT HIT WITH RUST UNDER VINYL TOP. I'M STILL CRYING.
Great cars and great racing! Back in my day, I had 5 different Mopars and raced against just about every single one of the cars at one time or another. Good times.
These were THE cars. In 1968 my hard working parents bought me a 68 Chevelle 396 4 spd For graduation. Leaving that dealership in that car is burned in my mind forever. Like it was yesterday. I believe the window sticker was about 3200. My payment was 93 bucks. Too bad that's all gone for the upcoming car guys
I was there. I lived It and it was a full on battle, my friend. Here in Corpus, it was mostly us Mopar vs Buick. That was the big hate. A few Fords and a few Chevys. Mopar took home the most wins. I was real lucky to have had a 73 Charger, 73 Challenger, 74 Duster, 69 Road Runner, 69.5 Super Bee with a 413 that I built. I kick myself for not hanging on to not one single one of these things. Someday when I die I will be reunited with the Bee in heaven. (sigh)😕
@@mrkemblegilstrap awesome story!! I love it!!!I happen to believe the very same thing, when we pass away we go to the happiest times like that but this time you get to pick whatever Mopars you want. LOL thanks for the comment
@@maximuswedgie5149 excellent! Very kind of you sir, thank you, too. IDK, how old you are, my friend, but these things were stupid cheap in my day and now they're crazy expensive, lol. Freakin Rollercoaster. You've practically got to be a millionaire to own one of these rascals. Wow!
@@mrkemblegilstrap Howdy kind sir, in 1988 I had just got my license and there were lots and lots of drag races at stoplights. I had a 66 nova it’s a pretty fast 327. I used to street race every single weekend with somebody. But I felt always that we were at the tail end of the real action. My father on the other hand said that in the early 70s is where it was really hot. He also said that they were very cheap back then even up into the 70s and early 80s. I waited 25 + years to relive my dream. About eight years ago I bought 1965 coronet and became a full-fledged Mopar man. It’s surprisingly inexpensive after the initial cost. I paid 15,000 for mine. Yes that sounds outrageous but it’s actually not compared the way 10-year-old Acura right now or Toyota, newer cars are. It’s a lot of fun, my wife and I do local car meets and meet great people. I raced my cornet at a Julesburg dragstrip in Colorado last August for the first time in decades and it was great fun. I’m looking to enter a pure stock muscle drag club here in Colorado for next season. I still want my time machine so I can go back and get a max wedge Dodge.
@@maximuswedgie5149 hi! Sounds like I'm between you and your pops in age. I got my license in '78. Here in Corpus, we had a great street scene back then. 3 places to race. 1 asphalt 🤮and 2 concrete 😘 The best and furthest one was out by the airport. My brother worked for a surveying company and went out there and used their laser to mark off 1,320 feet. The asphalt one, by the naval air station, some maniacs used a 100 foot extension cord to mark, lol. The car odometer and giant telephone poles marked the 3rd one. These places were no fun to get to in my bee with a 4.88 rear end and 31" tall slicks. I played rough, heh heh. I had paid $700 for a '69.5 A12 bee that had a seized 383. I never could find out what happened to the original 440-6 pack. I had bought it from our mortal enemies the Buick boys, lol. We were constantly at war with them. Mopar versus Buick. With only a couple of Fords and a couple of chevys thrown in. At one time or another there was just about every brand except Oldsmobile. Anyways, I scrapped the 383 and built a +.040" over 413 that I had. It was a truck block, but I had the 2.14" Intake, max wedge heads. Insane stuff like this was available. One time I bought a 340-6 pack complete engine with adjustable rockers, for $400. I sold it to go with the 413, instead. The bee was the spring bright green metallic. Black stripe, black interior. The body was perfect except for a little rust hole by the rear window. All original paint. I had the seats recovered and it was pretty mint. I threw away the stupid clock and mounted my sun tach in it's place. Looked factory made. I did dozens of trick things like that to it. I made my own air cleaner that sealed to the scoop. Deep pans on engine and tranny. Oh, the list just goes on and on. I never got around to putting my cool can, ice bucket, fuel chiller on. There was really no need. It made Insane power. I laughed at people that had to power break for burn outs for distance. Once I spun a street tire it spun thru all 3 gears. This thing was a work of art. I sold it for $1,800 to fix my RX 7 that I had wrecked. Actually your $15,000 nowadays is cheap. You got a great deal. Gahd, nowadays you spend $10,000 for a rusted out pos with no motor. My friend had turned up with a '65 Coronet, 426 wedge(!), 4 speed, factory chrome valve covers/air cleaner, olive drab color. Unfortunately he sold it and never got it running. I could go on for days, lol. What motor are you running? What state do you live in? It is super nice talking to you!! My email is kembleg7@gmail.com You are welcome to write to me anytime, my friend.
great cars and great racing,, the buicks stole the show again but that green 350 olds was the best performer,, big car, small engine,, it ran faster than most of the big blocks. I would have thought the 1970 71 455Sd pontiac Firebird/ trans Ams would have put up a better show. The 340 dusters look fast for a big car. I was in America as a tourist 1973,1974,1975 with my parents and will never forget the cars i saw , even as a kid. from australia that AMC javlin that ran against a big block really surprised me.
"Pure stock" for most of them is just taking the car to the track. The small blocks that beat the bigs are prolly run a lot and have every legal tweak and tire pressures set ect
Being old enough to have been there when these cars were new, I can tell you some of these cars are more PURE than others. It was a great video and I thoroughly enjoyed it but a Pure Stock 340 Duster that ran in the 11's. It must have been tuned by Royal Pontiac. Lol.
oldguy49 Since that it isn't back then they allow for some things (like 0.060 over bore) that are necessary to keep the old cars running. Also, the tires sucked back then sucked with traction and modern radials can take off a second on many muscle cars times with biased tires. I didn't notice an Duster in the "11's" (I think you are mistaken), but I have seen many run in the mid to low 12's "pure stock". The Duster body hooks and books off the line and wins many races against opponent with higher trap speeds. I agree with you that these cars are not "pure stock", but that is pretty much impossible 50 years later. The 340's ran 13 seconds back in the day, so 12 seconds is reasonable, but I'm skeptical with 11's second runs. Can you give me the time stamp were the 340 Duster ran in the 11"s?
There were a lot of fast cars around in the old days. Most of them that you see now weren't the "bad boys". The survivors are mostly more civil optioned examples with power steering, brakes, air, and other comforts. The warriors were stripper models and were probably more common than optioned models back then. I had a '64 GTO 4 spd, a '64 Polara 4 spd, a '68 Coronet R/T 4 spd, a '70 Road Runner automatic, a '70 340 Dart automatic- all manual steering & brakes except for the Dart had power disc brakes. I had more civilized cars, too. '68 GTO, '70 383 Challenger, '70 Duster 318, '73 Duster 340, '70 GTX... That's only cars that I personally owned. I have been involved with many more of all makes. My point, though, was that the fast ones got used up, turned into race cars, or were crashed. Anybody that doesn't believe how fast the cars were just weren't there. It wasn't hard to make one of the old musclecars run 12s in those days. Headers, slicks, & tune often was enough. Hemis & L-88s were REAL fast. I have no interest at all in how fast modern cars are. They STILL don't fly, so I'm not impressed.
Doing auto machine work for years, Ive seen guys come in saying they want a pure stock looking 540c.i., 13:1, heads ported paper thin engine like they're on a mission. I think that's what your probably talking about.
York PA. when all these beauties roamed the 'Loop" through downtown and back. Meet up at 'Ginos' just past Haines Rd. Real stuff went on just down the road at US 30 drag-O-Way. Later that night gather at 'The Shaddy Dell' for knocking down some brown bottles. Those were the days...
Brother in law Del Carlisle RIP had a 1964 Pontiac GTO 455 cu inches Red it was a bad ass machine. Take it down Montgomery blvd in Albuquerque when there was nothing on that street... That car moved faster than the devil...
@@OldSchool-ot9rp You are so right I was thinking about my Parents 1974 Pontiac Grandville that had the 455 cubic inches the 1964 Pontiac Had a 389cu. now he was a mechanic so he might have changed the engine would have been about 1973 I was a junior in high school. Thanks for the info. Check out my 1978 Lincoln Continental Mark 5, she has a 460 cu and is a dog.
Reading up on the rules of "Pure Stock" is enlightening. As far as traction on bias ply tires, you can find some YT vids explaining how they do that as well. Pretty amazing.
They are allowed freedom to do major upgrades internally. Stock appearing. Some guys here spend 30-40 grand in these upper classes in order to be competitive.
@@maximuswedgie5149 Not according to their rules. But, dealer installed engines (Yenko) and special order competition cars with no warranty (ZL1), or cars with mismatched paint, excessive rust, or primered (68 Hurst Olds) were all participating. So, rules? meh.
Those mopars were running strong. I love to see old school classic muscle cars doing what they were intended and built to do is to tear up the dragstrip
Owned a '70 AAR 'cuda for 48 years...bought it in June 1973 just sold it in Nov. 2021. It was time... i owned it long enough sold it to a collector in Australia. Old muscle cars were fun and cool to drive but they are far from a pleasant experience. they drove like crap, rode like crap, handled like crap, the black vinyl seats made your back and ass sweat like crazy after 10 minutes, the poorly insulated cars were hot inside from the floor getting hot from the big dual exhaust and no AC. I had had enough of that. Plus everywhere I went with the car people yelling and waving, cars blowing horns flashing lights, and when I stopped some where I always had to tell people about exactly what an AAR 'cuda was. It was great for a while but I really got so sick of telling the story. Then the car show guys that were always telling me what was right or wrong with my car that I had owned my whole life and knew every nut and bolt of. And it was quite unsettling knowing the soccer mom in the Honda SUV next to me at the stop light could very well blow the doors off the once mighty 'cuda. Like I said it was time. Sold the 'cuda bought a new Challenger Scat Pak...now that is a fucking ride and a half!!!
No way these Old Ass Cars are stock going 12 seconds! Not buying it! Must be boosted or something! Some even going 11s No Fing way! And those Duster 340s are fIng quick!
If you mean the run that starts at 44:11, the Pontiac ran a winning 13.13 @ 109.15 to the Buick's 13.17@103.43. Having already taken the first two of the shootout, the Buick driver was screwing around with launch technique and slept at the lights..I can only guess the tripod mount came loose and thats why the camera panned upward..
The rules allow slight overbore, compression increase of 1.5 and dual exhaust. They probably allow cheater cams that have factory lift and duration but with faster opening and closing rates.
We were in are youth in the 70s and were able to buy these cars cheap and had enough sense to collect many from 55 to70 all makes and models , now they live in are barn..?
These cars are not completely stock, not even close. Very few production, off the showroom muscle cars were able to run 13 second times. Most ran mid 14’s, some in the low 15’s. Yes, a Buick GS with Stage 2 dealer installed option, Hemi Dart and Yenko Nova’s ran in the mid 12’s. Most had Cheater slicks, .410 gears, 105 STP fuel and open exhaust. No, not daily drivers and some were not really street legal. The quickest (legit) street car when I was into racing (1981) was a kid who had a 1970 SS Camaro 396-375hp automatic. The car had 3.73 gears. We went to Englishtown and ran the car twice with 105 octagon fuel. The car ran a 13.85 and at the time he had the fastest street car in the area. Now, were there faster cars out there, absolutely!! But they were “NOT” street legal.
You must have lived in a very small town, if a high 13 sec car was the fastest around. Older brother had a 65 GTO... I had a 69 Roadrunner and a 70 Fairlane...Younger brother had a 70 Duster and 65 Impala SS... All 5 of those cars ran high 12's/low 13's, and we lived in south-central Ohio, out in the country. There were many others within a 30-mile radius who had cars just as fast, or faster.
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