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I bought my first Subaru six months ago, an Ascent with the same engine and CVT as in the Outback tested here. I didn’t know what to expect, given the number of complaints I’ve read about that engine and transmission. Turns out I like it quite a bit. Being a relatively normal driver (only went to Skip Barber Racing School twice and later raced an ASA car) I spend near-zero time at WOT on public streets, roads, and highways. It’s a very nice powertrain, no complaints here at all. The rest of the vehicle is pretty good as well.
Nice work Micah and spouse! I just loved the natural banter, comic relief, affection between you all and of course the actual car review. Congratulations Muzio Family!
I sold my 2015 Ram 1500 for a 2021 Outback Limited. I opted for the 2.5L engine because I found the turbo uneven in its acceleration. I also live at sea level and the handful of times a year I go snowboarding I will deal with the power loss at elevation. Quiet, smooth and nicely appointed...I am very happy. Great review and love it's with the whole family. Where is the dog?
I got a 2018 outback with the 2.5 4 cylinder and I gotta tell you that it's a wonderful engine with plenty of power for everything and gets amazing fuel economy, i got a video on my channel where my outback was doing 120mph effortlessly, the outback comes with great offroad chops with 8.7 inches of ground clearance(more then some dedicated offroad trucks) with plenty of space for passengers and cargo, especially with that heavy duty roof rack and best of all it gets over 30mpg!! Not to mention all the great eyesight safety features! My favorite being the adaptive cruise control!! My 2 young daughters and myself love to go camping and sleeping in the outback! Folding the rear seats gives you a big flat surface big enough for me and daughters to sleep very comfortably
@@SubieandFriends that is awesome! How long did it take for the engine to break in and get really good mpg? I am not a lead foot by any means but I'm not getting advertised. I'm only 600miles in so I expect it to improve but just curious how long. Also...did you get a cargo box and if so what kind?
@@perseverance86 actually I got my 2018 outback used with 68k miles so not really sure on the break in period, I also dont get the best mileage when I drive around town (around 16-19mpg) but I attribute that to my heavy foot, but when I go on roadtrips on the fwy I average about 30-34mpg doing 75mph, which is good enough for me! I dont have a roof cargo box but I also would love to get me one.
Life after RAM truck, I bet Peter appreciates Subaru fuel economy and much easier to park. Tighter turning radius. Just right height for in and out. We’ve had multiple Suubies, excellent for gravel road in snow country. U-R-A-BUS backwards.
@@Skunked68 you nailed it. Just went on a 1400 mile trip touring colleges with my son. Super comfortable, good fuel and sure footed in bad weather. Just a complete home run! So happy with my purchase ☺️
I couldn't assess the merits of this video without the mention of the Missus, she was a real bonus to your video; what a sweetie and cutie. The 4K image quality was really sharp, it made the Outback really shine. Good job. Thanks
It is my first car in Australia. I bought a used OB 2021 Gen 6, 2.5L. Love the way it looks. Love its AWD. It allows me to drive with confidence in a bad weather.
Good old Highway 18. Good memories of going up there just to cruise and toss my cars around. Everywhere you look up there you see a Subaru, you’re officially mountain folk.
Micah, just found your channel. Love the format and subscribed! You'll reach 100k in no time! Just a comment on the 2.5 litre base engine. It is just fine. Owned a 2016 Legacy for 4 years and 134,000 miles and had zero problems with it. Connected to the CVT was also not an issue. You do have to learn how to drive the CVT to optimize acceleration. Just mashing the pedal does not give you the best acceleration. A slower but consistent pressure on the accelerator till you reach speed will give you excellent merging capability. Pulling out in front of big pick up trucks is not advisable in any car. :) You also have to maintain the CVT. A drain and fill of fluid every 60K is recommended and it will last forever. Good luck with your channel growth. I'll be watching!
Great review! I never had a clue on how to use the pin code thing, also, the Onyx edition is based on the premium trim (which is why it doesn't have memory seats). It costs more than the limited because it comes with 2.4t standard (along with special accents and seats) instead of the 2.5 like the limited, which has the option for the 2.4t.
Yesterday I tested an Outback XT, a base engine Legacy, a XSE Camry (base engine) and an Accord 1.5 turbo. I was impressed with the ride quality, comfort, and quietness of the Subaru models. XT is the way to go. I thought the base 2.5 was fine until I had to enter the freeway at an incline. 50 mph at the top of the ramp. The same ramp in the Outback XT and I was well over the 60 mph speed limit when I merged.
My family had 10 Subaru’s growing up in Lake Arrowhead. Glad to see they are still common up the hill. Special shout out to the drive by Rim of the World High School. 😊
+1. .. Our early production 2020 Outback XT Touring we ordered & spec'd before the Fall '19 market launch. . A little more than 1 year old and the neu Outback XT (2.4l turbo w/CVT) continues to surprise us. . The present Subaru offerings have made a huge leap in the direction of refinement,, read quiet. . The XT Touring trim-levels dual-pane glass front windows are a nice touch. . The Outback XT turbo is the High Country, High Altitude Colorado State Kombi. . Cheers, Vail, Colorado 8,250' elevation.
the 2.5 with CVT is NOT a recipe for displeasure, it's fine. The turbo is more fun to drive but I enjoy driving the car with either engine - my wife and I both have 2020 Outbacks - one withe 2.5, one with the turbo and we like them both. It's not a sports car like the WRX, but it doesn't pretend to be one. It's a comfortable, nice handling car that I look forward to driving every time I get the chance.
I got the 5th gen 2.5. You get used to it trust me, I just let the 4wd take control and use inertia for the most mpgs. I like to know that I got just enough torque to get me out of trouble in traffic. The ride quality and quiet cabin are great. Not the fastest I agree but plenty for a family hauler and commuter. 14:22 is a 4th gen Outback.
Hey Micah... I liked your review because it was different - you had your family along and it showed how practical the Outback can be for you and yours. Besides, reviewing a car and having fun doing it is not a bad thing. Now go get your daughter a hot dog!
As a Subaru owner that has experience with the eyesight system I can say it has one fundamental flaw. It shuts off in low visibility situations like heavy rain and snow. So when you want it the most to it's unavailable.
It works fine on my 2019 Subaru Forester during a recent cloud burst at 5:30pm on a busy winding road here in Central California. Maybe because I had my amber fog lights on at the same. It's the over zealous AEB that worries me sometimes.
I've only had a few mid-drive disables. One, with the sun at just the right angle. Once with fog at night, and a few rain storms where it was absolutely torrential, where I don't even think a radar would have helped. Even with Radar, the systems rely on a camera for redundancy. I have had a few mornings in my 16 Legacy where the system was too cold and deactivated as soon as I started the car.
@@norme1850 I've had mine brake-check people I already wanted to brake-check, because they were on my ass. There were a few false AEB warnings for sharp turns with signs close to the road. Granted, I was speeding but had full control. My only gripe is the occasional hard brake with Adaptive Cruise on, like... come on, you're already tracking that car it didn't just slam on the brakes.
It has improved with more recent iterations...my wife's 2021 hasn't turned off on her yet, despite driving through heavy snow...my 16 has cut out several times since I got it...
-I love the awkward desperate attempt to steer the adventures with a hot dog joke to G rated banter. -That was a 5th gen Outback you sneaked up to. Subaru owners like to park next to each other.
@ Aussiebloke0001 Lol.. won’t park next to a 20 year old GM vehicle that’s on its original head gaskets but will park next to a 9 year old Forester on its third set and already rusting through.
NIce review. I would have liked to see you cover the dynamic cruise control feature more thoroughly. It's a fantastic on the interstate, so good, that I can't imagine driving highways without it. It's really remarkable and I've been using it for 5yrs now (2017 Impreza Sport 5-door) and it's never let me down, nor has it given me any cause for concern. They've updated Eyesight for 2022 which includes updated dynamic cruise control, so I can only imagine it's even better. I have a 22 Outback Onyx Edition XT on it's way this month, and I cannot wait!
I highly recommend the Onyx. Easy to drive. The safety feature are real things. Acceleration can also be an important safety feature. The visibility is good and you have the advantage of sitting higher. I don't recommend it for very fast turns, because it will feel slightly top-heavy. My only concern is the number of electronic peripheral stuff connected - Sirius, Starlink and My Subaru with its e-mails. It's like getting a cell phone with apps you aren't too sure what they do and how necessary they are to buy into.
Just remember Subarites.... if you ever need to replace the Subie's windshield... you need to recalibrate the Eyesight system at the dealership. In fact, its best to replace the damn windshield AT the dealership. Its a extremely expensive repair and tech recalibration
Funny how the majority of people complaining about Subaru CVT's are those who've never owned one. Subaru has never had major problems with their CVT's like Nissan. Of course I wouldn't buy a Nissan even if it didn't have a CVT. It's just the local Nissan dealship here sucks. (Based on actual experience.)
@@norme1850 I actually own a crosstrek and a murano lol had my transmission replaced in the murano at 60000 km with suburu its fine and all the cvt but dang would be a whole lot better with a standard automatic transmission just give it more oopff off the line not searching for gears all the time ..
Eyesight wouldn't work too good on vehicles with manual transmissions, because the Adaptive Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking. My 2019 Subaru Forester can do stop and go traffic without me touching the gas or brake pedals while driving as long as ACC is set within its range.
@@norme1850 Hyundai,Kia,Mazda and Toyota are putting all the safety features except stop and go in their manual car maybe it has something to do with Eyesight.
My dad had that “StarTex” interior in his 1972 Opel GT, but back then it was called VINYL. It was soft and comfortable, but it doesn’t breathe like real leather. I know a family who has that StarTex interior and they HATE it because they sweat in it. They’ve told me that their next Subaru will NOT have the StarTex. They’ll either buy one with cloth or leather
My biggest issue with this car is the touchscreen. It tends to be slow at times, I don't like the way the heated seats can only be controlled one at a time and the X-Mode should have a hard button for quick and easy access. Some parts of the climate controls can also be difficult to operate quickly when you're driving, prompting the driver alert monitor to scream "keep your eyes on the road." When it gets really cold out (like 0 degrees) the screen is annoyingly slow. As Missoula is practically the second home of the Subaru Outback, I've talked with many 4th and 5th generation Outback owners who do not care for the "iPad" like controls. I think more hard buttons similar to what Ram does with its big infotainment setup would be more appealing to older buyers. Old man me is going with a 2019 CPO Outback, maybe the 3.6R. No auto stop/start and I like the styling better. Oh, and why do they make you choose between two-mode X-mode and a Harman Kardon audio system? At $33K, both features should be on the Onyx, Limited and Touring. It is nice they have the optional Rockford Fosgate speaker upgrade, underbody skid plate protection bits and lane centering. Also, thumbs-up for rear windows that roll all the way down, I thought I was the only one that cared about that (well, me and the dog). How are you liking mountain life?
Like you review and some of the practical things you point out. Family in particular. One thing though that drives me crazy is the CVT like/dislike. Reminds me of the manual vs automatic trend. Each one has to be driven differently, as they are not the same. Flooring a CVT is not how to use a CVT, just like flooring an automatic and expecting the experience of a manual transmission, or even a direct shift gear box. I have driven all 3, and know what each can do, and with the CVT learning how to use it to its best. I am a fan of any of them? Manual still is the most fun, however, it is all about what you like and what you need it to do.
It would be AWESOME if Subaru would bring back the turbo in the Forester. Perhaps with the 25 Forester Hybrid will have enough kick that a turbo won’t be needed.
That backup camera is actually pretty terrible, my 2012 Outback that I recently purchased has a back up camera that is almost similar if a bit fuzzy and not as colorful, which is pretty bad considering this is a brand new one at 33,000 and I paid 12,000 for my 2012 one. The issue with this camera is that It should be better than okay especially when Subaru commercials constantly reminds us all about the advanced safety in their products and when there are other cars out there with better backup cameras at a similar price point.
Really glad they finally went with a turbo. Every time I took an Outback to the mountains (as you are legally required to do) that aspirated 4 was reaaaaaaaly struggling to do anything at altitude. It was already pretty underpowered at sea level, so the altitude just killed it.
Previously they’ve had both a H6 and a turbo H4. From ‘00-‘04, they had a 3.0H6 with a 4EAT. From ‘05-‘09 they had a 2.5XT turbo H4 with either a 5-speed manual or a 5EAT, as well as a 3.0H6 with a 5EAT. From ‘10-‘14 they had a 3.6H6 with a 5EAT, and the same engine with a HTCVT from ‘15-‘19.
@@CalebCissna Sounds good. The only one I drove was one I got from a rental counter at SLC a few years ago, it only had the 2.5 aspirated. At the time I looked it up and the optional engine was an aspirated H6 I believe. The 2.5 was slow at sea level and utterly inadequate at 8000 ft.
Living in the top of the snow belt, MN, Subies are so nice compared to virtually any vehicle and, the Outback carried a total home improvement project-including 2x4's etc. And the interior quiet, comfy.
In Ohio, the state is polluted by Honda Toyota and Jacked up trucks. I visited Duluth in the winter, Subaru everywhere. I have a 2018 Subaru Outback Premium 2.5 , people think I'm a weirdo
Hey Micah, love your videos. I bought the Subaru Outback last June as a second car. I appreciate the car but the screen is so slow. I’m hoping Subaru will be able to fix this issues as I would be prepared to order when this lease is due. Cheers.
Only thing I miss from Subaru is the Baja. With everyone making new small trucks, Subaru should come back with the Baja! Lol 😝 On another note, really wish Subaru (and some others) would avoid CVT’s, instant turn off, just not interested in the sound, feel and mechanics of them.
The only issue I have with my 2019 Forester is the CVT sometimes takes longer to shift from reverse to drive. 3 seconds at most. But the simulated 7 speed shift points on the CVT does give it to feel of a regular automatic transmission. In sports mode, the CVT shifts later and at higher engine rpms. I had concerns about Subaru's CVT's before buying mine because of what everyone was saying about it, but when I couldn't find anything justifying the issues people were talking about, (recalls, breakdowns). The most mpgs on the highway I'm getting is about 32mpg from the listed 33mpg. But I'm not going to complain about the 30mpg city I'm getting instead of the listed 26mpg.
I got the feeling he was trying to avoid saying the acceleration is poor, which is the word I use to describe it. I think “moseying along” describes the Outback. Btw, my wife drives an Impreza; so I have nothing against Subaru.
I’m on the other end of ‘family friendly’ with two teenagers, one of which has just started driving (and is 6’3”). I’m looking for a vehicle that’s teen-driver friendly with Eye Sight and Blind Spot monitoring, tank-like just in case those items don’t work, big enough and comfortable enough to haul us all to Grandma’s, but not so huge it’s hard to pass that parallel parking test. I keep coming back to an Outback as the obvious solution, but my wife is stuck on “ it’s a station wagon.”
The CVT is what got me to sell my 2020 Outback Onyx XT - that power drop right after taking off from a stop was a deal breaker. I thought I could get over it. I was wrong. I was hopeful that Cobb would get a tune for the Outback that would fix that. They haven't yet. The Outback was a perfect car... except for that terrible CVT programming. So I sold it.
What’s the difference between a wagon and suv? This car has the same 8.7” ground clearance as the Forester and much more than the other competitors. Spot on about the CVT, it’s a showstopper and lowers the overall drivetrain experience.
I had a 2015 3.6R, that killed any future for me as a Subaru customer. I liked it at first. It was comfortable to drive. But after 2 1/2 years, it proved to be unreliable so I traded out of it. It's a very conservative driving car. You dont dare try and gun it to get through a tight situation. The engine made a lot of noise while the computer tried to figure out what to do with the CVT. The car ate batteries. I had the main battery replaced 2x under warranty. The cars electronics were also unreliable. Keyless entry errors; radio lock ups; Eyesight false positives; key fob issues. It just proved to be a very annoying car. In the 2.5 years I had that Outback, it had 4 recalls. I look at this 2021 and see lots of commonality to the 2015, so for me, it's kind of laughable that Subaru calls this generation, 'all new'. So because of my experience with the 2015, Subaru, Never Again. I did get a fantastic Kelly Blue Book trade in valuation. Just took the print out to the dealer and they honored it.
Yep.. I had a 2018 3.6 Touring that was a lemon and now 2019 3.6 Touring thats aspiring to be a lemon. Although I plan on keeping it longer until more hybrid or electric model that suit our needs come on the market.
Bought my wife a 2015 Impreza. After six years, the CD player doesn’t work; the heated seats are failing; it has lots of squeaks. Overall, because of the AWD, still we like the car, but we’ve come to think Subaru is over-rated.
my experience with 2015 3.6R is similar. Like you I've had the battery issues, and radio lockups. I've also had two wheel bearings replaced (under warranty luckily) and the overly fragile windshield replaced (and the expensive eye-sight recalibration). I still have it, and due to covid closures not driving much, but am thinking of trading it in... probably on a Highlander with the V6.
@@swells1 a colleague at work had a base level 2015. He changed out 4 windshields on his. I think he came To the conclusion the pitch was just at the sweet spot , where in other cars you might just get a small pit.
If Forester gets the same Turbo XT, I think Forester is a better buy, honestly, besides the ventilated seats, there aren’t many features available on Outback but not available on Forester. I don’t like big screen if it means less physical buttons and knobs. Subaru really needs to give us 360 camera, at least for the Outback, Legacy and Ascent.
I know that I’ve seen outboard mirror mounted cameras on the Japan spec Foresters and Levorg and that the Levorg has Eyesight 3.0 with especially high tech cameras so there is some possibility that a 360 view upgrade could be on its way.
Did this outback include the GAIA navigation app? It's a cool app that shows you trail maps in state and national parks and on public lands. Would be useful once that new Bronco arrives.
So is this near Arrowhead or Big Bear?? Remember a family trip to Arrowhead in 1970 or so that included a 1965 Ford Country Squire that was Yellow (we called her Yellowbird since Dad wanted a Thunderbird) It did have the 352 V! No chains to get the rest of the way up so left it parked at a pull out. Three or four days later we found all four doors side window smashed and endured a very cool ride back to Anaheim... O' the good olde days!
Here in Canada, it’s called the Outdoor trim, it’s my favorite trim of all, I’m not a fan of leather but I am a fan of that 2.4L Turbo. A family friend of mine has a base engined Outback, they got it a couple months ago, they’ve only ever had base engined Outback their on their 3rd Outback and 4th Subaru in total. It’s verrrrryyyyyyy sllllllooooooowwww.
"Conveyance" - Anyone else have a Demolition Man flashback when they said that? No? Just me? Great review. I've given up on Subaru b/c of the CVT...and my '04 Blobeye is very sad it won't get a sibling anytime soon.
Some 2021 and later models actually have manual transmissions. My 2019 Forester hasn't gotten the 33 mpg highway as listed, but the 30 mpg city I'm getting is a lots better than the listed 26 mpg.
According to J.D. Power research, Outback buyers are 60 years of age, on average, compared with the typical Midsize SUV buyer, who is 55 years old. In fact, 72% of Outback buyers are members of the Boomer (those born between 1946 and 1964) or Pre-Boomer (prior to 1946) generations, compared with 57% of Midsize SUV buyers. Gender splits 41% women for the Subaru, compared with 42% for Midsize SUVs, and an Outback buyer earns a median household income of $121,875, compared with the segment average of $111,964.
