1/4/21: We've just been informed that the service intervals are in fact 6,000 miles, not 10,000 as stated in the original press material (and therefore this video)
If tiger wanted to make a cheaper more manageable new bike for new riders. They should have made a 650 adventure. This bike isn't really that affordable for new riders. Get that price down to 6 to 7 grand. That's a winner.
@@davehotten3287 Wouldn't suprise me. Personally I'm not interested in Triumphs really, I had a 2020 speed twin that wouldn't stop leaking oil. I've part exchanged it for a Honda Crossrunner now 👍🏻.
Not too worried about the negativity in these comments. I was looking for a versatile bike with about 80 horsepower, a comfortable riding position, easy luggage carrying, a centre stand, and an interesting engine feel and sound. This is exactly it and I have already placed an order. I have no interest in whether Triumph sell 10 of these or 1 million. Are there really riders here who can't get enough road performance from an engine with this wide torque band and power? I suppose nothing in the Tiger range would really suit them if they actually want to be chasing up and down dual carriageways and motorways for their riding kicks. I prefer the leafy back lanes that this bike is ideal for.
I like it. Colours are good and I'm all for softer tunes. For a touring style motorcycle a softer tune will equal more relaxed riding. I've test rode a few new bikes recently and actually prefer to leave rain mode on! They generally feel nicer for 90% of the time. If you don't agree, spend a bit more and get a 900.
Here you go Triumph... from the comments seen below this is what your customers want... 1. A brand new 1050 Sport that replicates or betters the BMW S1000XR 2. A 660 Triple Tiger for new A2 riders with an entry cost of around £7,000 3. A brand new Tiger 1200 to really put the cat amongst the KTM/BMW/Multistrada crew rather than just a Alpine/Desert mid spec editions that no-one really wants. 4. Some proper paint schemes that look desirable. 5. Connectivity that actually works (still waiting for this over 2 years now on existing Tiger 12) 6. Production moved back to UK or just put a Thailand badge on the tank. You can’t have it both ways. 7. Some better dealers. Not sure what the issues are but clearly some people are not happy with your dealers 8. Less talk about bikes being manageable or targeted at people who want a manageable bike. Do these customers exist? I want exciting, fun, innovative, unique, British. Manageable sounds like a dull car...
Such a failure of the marketing of this bike, they call it sport and it is in fact a even more basic version of tiger 900... Who the hell buys a bike labeled as "sport" when it has less power and a more tamed engine than the rally version?? And then we have the price, closer to the 900xr/tracer 900 than the 750gs/tracer 700, but with specs closer to the laters. Do the people in triumph don't understand that costumers wanted a more sporty version of the tiger 900 with 17" front wheel, squeezed engine and shorter suspensions and not this blant moderated thing they came up with...
Actually, I think marketing got it right. This is because there is an inflation of terms of recent times. Sport has now come to mean basic. Just look at the Audi or BMW websites, "sport" is usually the term reserved for the lowest trims for any car in both manufacturers. That's just the way it is now, sport means basic.
@@Omar-kw5ui What the heck are you saying? Audi has S line (sport line), and RS version (Racing Sport) more expensive than basic and advanced versions. BMW has M sport and then the M versions, more expensive than basic, advantage, xLine and other versions. Anyway, why you bring high-premium car brands to justify some nonsense of the marketing of a medium budget motorbike brand...
Confused with the pr guy describing the 850! Don’t like the split colour ...... but I’m not in the youth bracket anymore! Awaiting the new speed triple next ...hope the colours are better than last years !
The Tiger 900 ‘Basic’ was a con, the bike never existed, it was just a marketing tool, they blatantly say the 900 ‘Basic is being stopped, it was never built in the first place.
Here in the USA I asked to find one and a dealer in the know said there were just a handful of them offered in the USA at all ... The proffit margin is in the high spec-ed bikes ..Triumph needs to look at the numbers of T 700 sales here and even the low end Hymalayan's numbers .. Even a higher spec Street Scrambler would have a market ...
About 25 years ago I bought my daughter a Toyota Camry CE without my wife or daughter seeing it, I just bought it on the spot because of the sale price, I was sure my daughter would be happy. When I get home the wife and daughter are looking at it and my daughter asked what the "CE" stands for? The wife blurts out "Cheap Edition!" Triumph Tiger 900 CE.
I like the prospect of this bike. Im on a bmw s1000r atm and am kind of over loads of power and electronics for a road bike. Having said that with this bike if the power reduction just being an ecu remap. Would be nice if it can remapped to the original 900 power.
Why the high level exhaust? Form over function as it will reduce the luggage capacity for those of us who tour. I had a Tiger 1050 and loved the riding position (and my pillion loved it) but the luggage limitations were part of the reason for changing.
I was hoping for a tiger 660... At a diference of 300 euros and the same displacement has the 900 i see no advantage. If it was a 660 at least it would pay about half the road tax here in Portugal and the insurance would be lower, even is the purchase price remained the same...
Hi, in my modest opinion "she" s an other wonderful motorbike of Triumph, but.... I was dreaming with a 850sport like a 850cc version of the tiger1050 sport....
@@dadmadforgot4050, is difficult for me to associate tires and pedals like this, in a motorbike whit a write "Sport "on it... And a look as an off road..... May next model..... :)
They were given just a handful of the Base 900 here in the USA this year ..One dealer in the know said under ten of them came over ..I wonder if Triumph USA will let us have a go at this one ... More profit margin in the GT and Rally ...
I’m sorry but for a road tiger (sport tour) go older tiger 1050. Long time tiger owner by the way. This is a leftover parts project or a EU licensing model.
What's the diff between this new Tiger 850 Sport vs the outgoing Tiger 900 (the old non-GT one)...? Same bike different name? Or was the old one better specced?
Man! I can't help feeling disappointed. I thought this was a new bike, but sounds like its just a 900 with less power. The styling looks the same too... I was hoping that this would be an update to the big tiger sport (triumph's s1000xr equivilent). I really wonder what cistomers requested this. I guess he does keep referring to accessible... Hmm.
The first thing I noticed is the horrendous seat slope! I hope to be wrong but it does not look comfortable in stock trim. This is a solution that nobody needed. And the bike on the mountain road video had a screen deflector on it which says that stock screen is complete pony!
What exactly and and at which price point is this bike aimed at? And what happens to the base tiger 900s? Weird bike , they shoulda launched a 600 ish tiger sport
Wouldn’t pick this over my F900XR and I’m sure my mate wouldn’t swap his Tracer 900GT for it either... What is the point of this bike? Call it sport, but don’t fit 17” wheels... Triumph seem to be losing their way!
I don't get it I'm afraid, and I had a Tiger 800. I'm not really sure why this and not the base 900? Lots of talk of "accessibility" but is only £200 cheaper and same seat height? Needs an 800mm seat height and price around £8k to be accessible in my eyes.
You need to watch the actual video, its a 900 engine with the new firing order, just de-tuned, the "8502 name is on par with BMW's 700 (which is an 800), don't ask me why they want to down play the size, I guess to make you think its worth paying more for the 900
On March 13, 2021, I ordered the Tiger 850 sports version at the Beijing dealer Dade Liangju Kaixuan store, the color is red, and I paid a deposit. The salesperson Ms. Liu and the grumpy Mr. Wang agreed to arrive in two and a half months. Until the end of June, during the period, Ms. Liu exaggerated the process, misled the buyer, bought the car process, lacked product knowledge, and spoke inconsistently. Based on the feedback from some domestic car owners on the vehicle's oil leakage, I asked Miss Liu if she could do a detailed test. She replied that DPI testing can improve quality. After that, Ms. Liu suddenly proposed to test the car on the road. Here, she told me that this was a testing process and misled me. After the test, she asked a third person to conduct a road test on my car. I can accept the normal DPI test. However, these contents were misunderstood by the store manager, after-sales service, and general manager that I refused to test the car. At the beginning of July, I asked the salesperson Ms. Liu again, and their promise was not fulfilled, and then Ms. Liu suddenly notified me that I had to pay tariffs. At this point, I have lost my trust in Beijing dealers. I now seriously complain to the dealers in Beijing, including all sales, after-sales managers and general managers. They promised that the car will arrive in two and a half months, but the car did not arrive until the end of June. The salesman tried to make trouble and asked me to return the goods. After that, the general manager Ms. Jin actually denied that my car had arrived in Beijing. Their statements are inconsistent. I seriously suspect that they sold my car to other people at a high price for personal gain. Said it was for my sake, malicious slander, and very poor service attitude. As a customer, I was very angry. The Shanghai distributor told me that after the price increase at the end of June, due to the shortage of chips, several models such as the Tiger 850 Sport will not arrive until 2022. However, Jinan dealers have already delivered five Tiger 850 Sport in early July. The situation of Jinan dealers is seriously inconsistent with what the Beijing dealers said. In addition, the general dealer in Shanghai, China was unable to provide service specifications to regional dealers, which resulted in me being unable to get my motorcycle. I asked the British headquarters to perform the contract and return my car. In response to the problems and loopholes reflected above, it is hoped that the UK headquarters can thoroughly investigate and prevent commercial fraud.
Reading the comments it seems like this wont be a homerun...They make an 800, than make a 900, then a 850? They probably should have made a much more road focused and affordable version with the 765. This one kind of falls in a category that nobody was really asking for.
I don't think that is more manageable. It's a shame that we'll lose the 900. The 850 can be a great bike, but I don't like the split colour system. Cheers
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Me being a triumph 1050 owner and a fanboy ... this is disappointing.. sport? we re still wating for a fresh real sport tiger . replace the 13 year old outdated model already . Give the customers a tall aggressive and powerful moto
I'd rather spend the extra 200 and get the 900GT After a while you'd wanna have more power. In today's standards Anything less then 100 ps of power is not worth getting. While triumph calls this bike 850 sport. It should produce more power considering todays competition. Love triumph bikes. But they are really trying hard to do new stuff and losing their ways. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Please Get back to basics triumph. Go forward Not the other way. . . .
Before you hang me I love the 900 Tiger, and I say that as an ex as 800 Tiger xcx owner , I especially like the 900 rally-pro as it answers all the niggles I had with the 800 and some, Better suspension, power and kit. BUT, why does this 850 “sport”, yet slower, oh the irony, even exist. I’m sure that on normal roads the 850 sport and 900 GT will feel pretty similar, and it looks similar too, apart from the unfinished paint job. (Come on Karl, think of a quirky paint scheme that’ll fool the empire ) So what’s the point in the 850 sport, clearly there are political reasons, maybe different rules and regs( the old euro 850cc/85bhp trend) however, if the 900 gt simply had less gizmos and a slightly lower price point I’m sure sales would fly, ... Sadly I can only hear, Hi mate ”oh you bought the cheap one” ... and who wants the cheap one... ? Riders buy and ride bikes to show off a bit, it’s about pride of ownership.... we all want to be the rebellious biker deep down, even the accountants.... so I’m left flummoxed by this bike, not that it’s a bad bike but it’s so close to the Tiger 900 gt, which, incidentally, with a well worked pcp deal will not be that much more to buy either.... my Tiger 900 reviews @threesixmoto Cheers Ride safe...
Quickly clicked on this. Just sold my Speed Triple as it wasn't fun on the road anymore. I was hoping for an updated, smaller engined 1050 Tiger Sport or at least a Tiger on 17s. This looks cack.
If triumph were McDonald's : so for all of you that love double cheeseburgers, but find them a bit hard to manage, we've taken one of the burgers out, and called it the Double cheeseburger special.
I don't understand this bike... Put a 500cc engine in it with 47 bhp, scratch the Sport tag from the name, cut down 2500 from the price tag and it will have a purpose...
The 1050 tiger sport was a class of its own, sporty upright bike just like 1000xr. This bike(tiger 850) is wrong in soo many ways! The only fail in triumph line up 2021. Didn't even get the navigation ,what's the use of TFT anyways?
Rather than just cutting the power through the ECU, how about revising the intake and exhaust for low-down torque and adding some flywheel weight for easier clutch starts, smoother power and better traction? Then the bike would truly match the rhetoric. And I never understood the high tail design. It makes it harder to swing a leg over, raises the height of the seat and luggage, and makes it impossible to change your seating position on those long rides.This bike has no redeeming features even for a beginner, and looks like an opportunity lost.
Surely triumph have a 660 adventure bike up their sleeves? Or are they going to miss a trick here?🙄. Come on, no frills to beat Yamaha's T7 at least on price. Not that I will be swapping my T7 any time soon 👍
Apparently a bit cheaper than the 900 and then you need to add heated grips, which IMO should be standard on every bike in the UK and Europe. Oh and then don’t forget the quick shifter and blipper. Not quite so sure now about the value aspect.
Triumph are so out of touch with the bike market. This should have been a £7-8k A2 friendly bike that competed with the Tracer 700. Who would buy this bike over the normal 900GT for £200 more?
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff You're right, I messed up the prices of the old model and the 900GT. The 900GT is over £11k, which is nuts in itself. Both still over priced for me.
Hey triumph, better start reading some of the comments that I just read in this forum. You seem to be following Harley Davidson's path. I hate to see another manufacturer become disconnected to their core customers.
For us in India, what’s accessible is a bike that costs less then $10K.. This is still going to cost more than $15K, so it’s far from being accessible!
@@tolgayilmaz9257 You’re partially right - I own a Kawasaki 650 that cost $10K in India, thanks to import duty ( 3-4K more than what it costs in the US ), but can’t afford a Tiger that would cost $15K ( even though a few riders in my Riding club own Tigers ) !
wonderful bike. Confused, less power than the 900 but same engine, and it's called "More manageable power delivery" what does that mean ? Quite funny.. need a better marketing statement and reason lol...
Interesting bike; looks like it could sell. However, from my point of view, aside from many new bikes being presented as an excuse to sell accessories, the weak link in the production/distribution chain has little to do with Triumph products. What impedes an actual purchase is access to a reliable Triumph dealership. If there was a way to effectively cut out the useless glass boutique’s take of the cut and buy one configured direct from factory, I’d consider ordering a new bike. Personally, I’ve bought four new motorcycles in the last ten years and I just can’t bring myself to run that gauntlet again . . .
Dont get why they dident go for a baby tiger 660, same engine as trident surely triumph would have saved money this way & sold more units as would have been more affordable ££££
7:00 " A progressive reduction in power and torque". Sorry I don't want a bike that is restricted for no reason I can see. pretty sure next year it will be Full Power.
Yeah quite stupid. The ECU just progressively closes the throttle body the higher the rpm. Absolutely stupid. If I wanted less power I just wouldn't twist the throttle as far smh
@@Blockbuster2033 I have been told the reason it has less power is that to be able to be restricted to A2 licence holders the limit is a max of 50% so they had to make full power less.
@@stephenfleming7056 In whole of Europe the limit for a bike to be restricted to A2 is 95ps or 70kw. 50% more power than A2 would be 72ps, which this bike is still above at 85ps. Doesn't make any sense. They could have just detuned it to 95ps like their old Tiger 800...
@@stephenfleming7056 Yeah so it's allowed to weigh 175kg if it had 95ps. I doubt it is lighter than that. Edit: The old Tiger 800 was A2 compatible at 95ps.
This is utter bollocks. Even Miles Perkins doesn't sound convinced about his own product. It's just a detuned variant of a bike they never had any orders for wearing a different coloured frock. It's not a new for 2021 model Triumph's strap line always used to be 'Go Your Own Way' but that should now be changed to 'Following BMW' If Triumph want to make in roads in to BMW's market then a good place to start would be by supplying the bikes with a 3 year manufacturers warranty
Got to say i am a Triumph fan, But i dont see the point of this one. 600 range ye, But 850 governed down from the 900. Bit of a flop i feel. But time will tell.
Really Triumph , what a pointless motorcycle, dreadfully colour scheme, I'm shocked that such a great company would bring this out, what are the designers thinking , what are triumph thinking !!!!!!
I don't understand how can you claim it to be more beneficial to be less powerful and therefore more manageable when you can simply put that as a map choice on the button on the bars?
