I’ve rode street bikes for over 35 years and here is what I think about that CE 04….sweet!!! I’d ride it. Back decades ago I had a Honda Passport scooter. It was a blast to ride, especially at night. Lol That scooter is badass. I ride a ebike and I am sold on ebikes for around town.
One more thing…I did not purchase for a long term ride. It was purchased for local beach city riding. Don’t purchase if you wish to go a longer halls. Awesome for local driving. Seriously a wonderful experience
@@candyicecream1 absolutely love it. I tend to go about 65 miles on each ride. It’s an amazing ride. Purchased for short rides along the carlsbad to La Jolla California coast.
My opinion is that EV's are well suited for urban commuting. Once you got to know the vehicle and integrate it into your lifestyle you would become familiar with it, adapt, and get past the range anxiety. Having said the the range on that thing is awfully short. You would certainly have to plug it in every night. No matter what we think EV's are the future, it has been legislated in most western countries. I appreciate you reviewing them Scott. I'll hang on to my ICE vehicles thanks. I'll be dead before full adoption arrives, thank God.
We live in exciting times. I feel like solid-state batteries will allow for city to city driving with fast recharge in 5 to 10 years making electric motorcycles much more appealing. Nice review! 👍
@@draegus0072 because they have to be. Zero emission. That stupid goal they want to achieve. It brings more harm an problem than any good. EV are useless.
Interesting but expensive for what it is. City based early adopters will love them. If you had the resources you would obviously have one of these for an urban commute and an s1000rr for the weekends.
I will not downgrade to this from my BMW C-evolution electric scooter for the following reasons in this order: 1 - My favorite ride mode Coasting is gone. Regen is activated as soon as you touch the brakes anyway. 2 - Wind protection and design is better on the C-evolution. Spesially with the tall Puig windscreen. 3 - My C-evolution has more power and longer range. 4 - The belt drive is better protected on the C-evolution Side note: My C-evolution is my all year daily and practical commute and saves me a lot of cash on petrol. Despite its weight is quick and nimble through traffic. My other bike is the 2021 R1250RT and is used for the longer hauls between March and October.
Nice review, Scott! It shows that there seems to be still some technical devolopment required so that these vehicles can compete with combustion engines (specs and price). Regarding your video, (maybe I missed it), some information on price/specs and comparable bikes/scooters (with e-motors, and without) would have been very interesting to see. When I last visitied China back in 2011 (in Wuhan), almost all of their small scooters were already electrified to have clean air in the cities. You didnt hear them coming, it was quite dangerous when beeing close to the roads. Now 10 years later here in Germany we still seem to have only overpriced motorcycles with e-engine available (same seems to be true for cars)....
Great review. I appreciate a lot of this information. Before buying it I watch it and definitely switch to C650GT which I bought today after watching your review. I bought the last BMW C650 GT which was available. Thank you so much.
Yup, totally agree - we ride to relax & explore - who wants to worry about having enough charge to do that? Cutting adventures short & interrupting the flow :) Neat concept for the city dweller, but lots of cheaper $$ gas scooters to fill that gap. Thanks for the nice review.
Good review. I demo’d one recently. Its not a bad ride, but its absolutely not for me, and I dont think it ever will be. They are over £13,000 fully spec’d out in uk too !
Hello Scott! Thanks for sharing another bike experience on the channel. This time a novelty, the future as they say. And it is quite like so, because it is not the present yet I’m afraid. The high price of the bike combined with all its limitations, like top speed and range, are two strong counters to the power sensations of the electric motion that is stunning, the silence, if you appreciate to go on Stealth mode, you got it. It is also very beautiful in a modern aesthetic point of view and that’s all. Ho! I was forgetting:- you’re being environmentally correct and feeling making part of the ones who make part of the solution for the preservation of the planet, doing your good citizen contribution to minimize the gas pollution. That’s an extra attribute for the owners of a BMW CE- 04. Maybe these are enough advantages to decide for buying this Scooter and with the additional factor that it is fun to ride, at least for a while. It resembles the song - Fallin’ & Flyin’ by Colin Farrell and Jeff Bridges -, where falling feels like flying, at least for a little while 😅 For this kind of machine I think I’d go for the Yamaha TMAX Tech MAX, nice and easy ✌️✌️
From the handle bars back is a beautiful design. I love it. I just wish they didn’t go with the moped style front end. I’m looking at it from back to front like, nice nice nice eeeww.
Appreciate how simple it is for an EV but yeah definitely more of a scooter that can do some inter-city travel in Europe, wouldn't take it out to the country or the kind of inter city distances we have in Canada. Also that seat is a head scratcher!
as always, thanks for the review. that thing is pretty cool, one thing i like about scooters is the storage, would have been nice if they had some luggage accessories to showcase, picking up groceries or whatever. i have an old vespa lx150 with loads of storage including a rack mount luggage, seating with a pillion on this thing seems to be a bit more cramped than even my vespa lol
Yea, English native speakers will notice it but non-native speakers, probably not so much. People who know me, friends and family, and especially my wife, German, she said after watching the video, "wow, you really didn't like it". Yes, she knows me well 🙄 But I as with every bike I try to stay objective and quantitative, so that I can reach a qualitative conclusion/opinion, let me just say with this bike it was very difficult not letting my emotions get in the way 😒 but emotions are very important and that is why I showed them when I reached the dealer with very little range left. take care, Scott
Thanks for bringing this to our awareness, it's a unusual machine and the future for individual transport I guess, as it's BMW I expect it to be well built. At first it reminded me of the Sniclair C5 electric car/scooter.
Yea, once you step back and look at it for a moment, it does have that "80's vibe" to it. Never associated to the Sniclair but now I do...Thanks! 🤦♂🤣🤣🤣
Thumbs up from me 👍👍 At least it appears to be modern tech, not a David Cronenberg horror mash-up between a washing machine and mum’s old bicycle, unlike some electric motorcycles in the £4k - £6k segment…
I have test drive it today. For city perfect out of city too low range. Regarding sound - this is a biggest difference. The future is coming. When a owners of electric car will buy motorcycle, absence of sound will no be a dealbreaker. But cars have at low speed artificial sound and this scooter not. This is increased risk.
Firstly, thanks for the review. An interesting e-scoot but I'm not convinced this version is the answer to replacing a petrol scoot. For sure it's the future for city riding but the lack of under seat storage is extremely poor. Some petrol scoots are offering space for up to two full face helmets or a couple of bags of shopping. The long wheelbase could prove a problem in more congested city riding where your fighting for space with other road users. I like the looks of the scoot, the electronic gadgetry looks useful and it's range wouldn't bother me so much as it can be charged every other day. Im guessing because it's a BMW the price will be eye watering as well which I'm guessing won't help sales. Overall, I can't help feel that BMW have missed a trick by not building an e-scoot that can match what a normal petrol scoot offers in their versatility. This looks like a one trick pony IMHO.
I definitely would think of getting this for commuting in town and doing errands but the lack of storage is a real bummer. Maybe they'll come up with a storage system to attach to the rear, where there's quite a bit of room.
Once you learn about your EV range isn't a big deal. Like portable charging and charging stations. But yeah most EV's are for city or town commuting short trips where we use most of the gas for are vehicles
Fantastic review as usual. I would get this beauty to enjoy around my hometown but wonder how it would perform driving it uphills. It's a mountaneous region with steep hills. Electric scooters available here "chinese" are suffering.
@@NothingToProve It will be done, thanks we hope it will go well for urban use and a few trips out of town, I bought the version with full power, with heated Alto Confort saddle windshield, and Pro package.
I would buy one for the style alone, but maybe wait until the price comes down to half what they're asking. And it's still a very limited scooter compared to petrol powered. But fantastic looking thing 👍🇦🇺
thanx4 all the reviews scott , i am thinking about buying a second bike (my first is ktm duke 890) , did you make a review about te honda nt 1100yet? im looking for somthing for longer trips , maybe a gs 1250 , i like the reviews for my decesion , sorry for the bad englisch , im from flanders near brugges ;)
Electric vehicles just don’t have yet autonomy enough to be a serious alternative to traditional technology in general speaking. Very good video though. Thank you 🙌
It depends, In the USA? no it has a long way to go outside of California from what I have heard. But in Europe, Japan and other places ? yes it definitely has the autonomy.
@@faequeenapril6921 I think that the change will make us suffer, because our passion has nothing to do with this principles of how a two wheels machine is to be ridden but the autonomy is a critical issue for me, and the time you have to spend to recharge. It’s a totally different life. That’s what we are about to face. If this aspects and the price doesn’t get more appealing, I will get into the use of this kind of technology when it becomes and if it becomes mandatory ✌️
Interesting review Scott. I'd be interested to know how long it takes to charge up to, say, 80% full capacity. Also, re. the lack of room you found with the seat - it looks as if the design would lend itself to one being able to slide the seat fore and aft. Strange that it's fixed in that position.
Looks like that humongous storage space could do with an extra battery in it to give the BMW scooter more than the mediocre range it has at the moment. BMW have some work to do, to make this class of electric transportation viable...
Bmw: "We gonna make a worse e-scooter than the last one we made." "LESS MILAGE THAN BEFORE!" "We`re BMW, so we like to make things worse, for more money." 130 km range. Come on BMW.
Great review. I quite like the design. The range as you say is useless as are all electric motorcycles & very expensive. Worthless too when the batteries stop holding their charge. So pretty pointless for the biking community who like to explore.
REGENERATION question: Does the stop light activate automatically when in regen mode? Concerned that following drivers may get caught off guard at slowing EVs (Honda 'bump' issues in WHAM BAM TESLA CAM videos)
How do you think this could handle on a hard-packed dirt road (dry)? Have about 3km to paved road from house and curious if this would be ok. Don't need long range either so would love an electric ride.
Yea, I'll get there, it's just that there are actually bikes to ride now at dealerships with license plates on them BUT today I'm dropping off my RT at the dealer for a software update (overnight) and then I'll finish a video I'm making about it and hope to have it up next Tuesday...hope. 👍
I wonder: I live in Norway and most speed limits ( at least around Bergen where I live ) Is 70km/t. How far can I get with that speed ? Lets say in 10 degrees Celsius?
A city commuter should have at least space to store a laptop, and ideally room for a helmet jacket and over trousers, so that you can go into your business meeting in your suit, and not looking like a biker. BMW already know this as they have produced the C400 & C650, which do this perfectly. Unfortunately practicality has been lost in the quest for a green motorcycle. The result will not truly appeal to the city office worker or motorcycle enthusiast.
Do they make these weird concept like electric vehicles just because they know that the range is not enough for most of the potential buyers? If you can't win people over with functionality, compensate it with eye catching design (for better or worse).
The main difference, the dividing line between a successful model and a passing fancy, is obvious when comparing this model with the Vespa Elettrica. You can have confidence that you’ll still be able to get a replacement battery in the Vespa when the original wears out because the model will remain. This one could be outdated and changed next year.
You have to be careful with the scooter slowing down on regen... if you aren't using the brakes then your brake light is not lit up. EDIT: it turns out that i was mistaken about the brake lights and regen, I apologise for that!
Hi, Chucky here, stipulations portray truth, 'yes, all except for the 7 hour electric fill up', approximately 700-800 miles, here in America. One who 7 hour fill loose at It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World
The question is who buys it ? Upper class commuters with large bank accounts? In the EU area, especially the uk we have many days of rain and cold days. On those days upper class will jump in their electric cars. Therefore does it make sense, even for high earners to spend £11,700 for those days of the year that you are prepared to use 2 wheels? Very doubtful. That leaves the middle class commuter. Middle class even with a few extra pennies tucked away will not be parting with £11,700. I have a Honda forza 300. Brilliant, ABS, super smooth single cylinder engine, all the under seat storage you need, including helmet space and honda top box system. Regularly get 85 to 90 mpg giving over 200 miles from the 11.5 litre tank. I could run this honda for a decade and still be nowhere near the £11,700 asking price of this product. The problem with this model at the moment is its limitations. Range particularly. Its a one trick pony, being that it can only be used as a short range commuter and at £11,700 it will have little impact in that sector. Now, a few years down the line, when range is 300 miles plus, torque and top speed are improved, more under seat storage and a wider more comfortable seat with luggage options and you now have a product that can tour as well as commute. At this stage £11,700 becomes more considerable especially if you are concerned with your carbon footprint as they say. At the moment, it's a no from me. Great review as usual Scott. Happy riding
Rather a flawed design. They wanted it to looks so futuristic they made it flawed. Looks nice front on but the side view is ugly. Also to get that gap under the seat for that strange styling they made the storage compartment under the seat smaller than it could have been. The seat itself also could have being made to slide backwards a bit with that design to allow taller riders to be more comfortable. And limited to only 120kph? Most 300cc scooters are faster than that. And for all of that flawedness you get to pay twice what a good scooter would cost that can do a lot more than this thing can. I'm guessing its really heavy as well?