@@johnballs4589 100% Everything is exceptional Only 1 downside is its not a awd or 4 wheel If you dont care about 4wd then considering cost and specs very hard to beat this one
I imported h6 and have fun 49000 km without a single issue..... No electrical or any other problem whatsoever..... Would love to get in touch with guys who are having issues..... They are probably abusing Haval bcoz it's Chinese 😭
Thanks for your share. I am so happy to see more and more people talking about or using some "big" things ( compare clothes , socks etc. )made in China, because not only I came from China but also people get more choices on the market.
@@owenfeng8712 I think it's good competitor to Toyota. Just I don't trust CCP to take control of my car in war, so if I can't remotely disconnect software updates I'd get Rav4.
Hi Paul. I love your vlogs and reviews, in fact I purchased a Haval H6 HEV based on what you said. The only issues (for the want of a better word) I have with the Haval is it does bounce alot, and the economy in the open road is not what I expected from a HEV (7.6L/100KM). It is, however a very nice motor car and we love it. All the bells and whistels plus a few more. Cheers mate, keep up the great work.
BTW I saw the car on a Friday and drove away on the following Tuesday. A lot to be said for the other HEVs, PHEVs and EVs..Takes way too long to deliver
@@AlanSari2714 your better off with a diesel. my Hyundai Tucson gives me 6.7lt/100km. Hybrids are good if your doing a mix of highways and city. .infact mostly city Hevs are best. But if you do more of interstate and highways then diesel is the way to go.
I think the suspension is tuned like American cars are, soft and wallowing. I personally like it, not everyone is after arse shaking sporty drive. It's a comfortable ride for normal driving circumstances. Where can you drive at 130 KMh in Australia where most roads are 100-110 max?
The problem with Haval, is that they don't have local tunes for the suspension. The soft & wallowing suspension is the same tune for their own Chinese domestic market.
@@blazedkermit3338 Not sure if it's possilbe but is there any after market workaroudn to tune it for Australian Road ? To make it bit firmer ? Just checking it out.
With the hybrid system 'out in the open' like that, it will be easier / faster / cheaper to service. Also as battery tech gets better you will be easily able to 'upgrade' or expand the hybrid side and add a couple extra kw/hr
This theory works as long as the rest of the car holds up after 250k km. Toyota's Hybrid battery usually needs replacing around 250k km but it's worth it to pay $4k to replace it ONLY BECAUSE the rest of the car... engine, gearbox, suspensions are built solid and designed to 20 year lifespans. This Haval, we don't know how the rest of the car hold's up when it hits 250k km and if the car would be good enough then to just get a new battery for it and keep it going for another 250k km. If the engine is fried, turbo is on it's last leg's, suspension is gone, gearbox is tearing itself apart, then it won't be worth to 'upgrade' the battery in high km cars later in it's life. The car would need to be junked. (I am a Toyota Hybrid owner in the past and know it's built like a tank status but I am no shill especially now that Toyota is over pricing their cars, I myself am looking at Chinese electric and PHEV models now and as all here, a bit nervous as I do hold cars for 10-12 years).
I think the battery life may be longer than other parts of the vehicle because the battery of this vehicle comes from two suppliers, BYD and CATL. Many hybrid and pure electric buses in China use batteries from these two companies. China’s City buses operate at high intensity around the clock, and buses using these two battery suppliers have proven that they can complete the legal seven-year service life cycle of large city buses, while the mandatory retirement life of ordinary cities is 13 years. Early BYD buses have been scrapped after running for 13 years in some cities, such as Xi'an and Changsha. The kilometres of these buses are basically more than 700,000 kilometres.@@utube9487
My wifes daily is a H6 Ultra, granted we haven't had it for 10-12 yrs but it is currently holding up better than my mother's similarly aged Corolla. The corolla is rattling, the seats and steering wheel are worn away, the camera is shite. The H6 has no issues. Not defending Haval as such, they definitely still have some issues to iron out but more pointing out that Toyota no longer have the quality they were renouned for, and I have owned a few.
Sounds like a great SUV I even like the styling with the acceleration and economy also right on the money. So with a bit more refinement to the safety features suspension and interior it would be a really top notch vehicle. They should offer a lower specification Hybrid version without the moonroof and heated seats and steering wheel similar to the Lux version of the Jolion Hybrid. This should get the vehicle down to about forty thousand Australian dollars on road I am sure it would sell extremely well. 😎🇦🇺👍
The hybrid drive Train should have been available the the base or entry grade like the RAV4 then it would appeal to a broader audience eg gov ,fleet , rental car company as well as private
Fill the pockets of investors for the car manufacturers first..and then maybe think about .... later. you live in democratic capitalitic world..money first..
Amazing video and definitely and very good car and decent bang for your buck in comparison to other higher end brands. Would appreciate if you could show how the self park system as well and see how that compares to others.
Bang for buck? Are you serious? What about a $46k car that is basically identical to a Toyota RAV4 Cruiser hybrid, with half the resale value and more than likely not as reliable as Toyota (a high bar) and with a limited dealership reach, is bang for buck? Maybe if this model was priced to compete with a BASE RAV4 hybrid, I’d say ok this has a lot more standard features. But against a Cruiser? Doesn’t hold up. Resale is a big one here, you’re going to lose tens of thousands after a few years compared to a Toyota buyer that spent the same. This is way too expensive for what it is.
@@User-cb4jm have you sat in a Rav 4 cruiser? It is the most underwhelming cabin in the entire segment. The Rav 4 must be the most overrated vehicle of all time.
@@User-cb4jm Lmao Haval is way more reliable than Toyota and their resale value is good. $46k AUS dollars is already so much cheaper than the way worse Toyota.
Hi dear As a HAVAL H6 HEV user, I want your very real experience with this vehicle. After a long mileage, how you found Haval in Comfort level, Driving ease, Safety measures, Suspensions result? ANY ANY ANY COMPLAINT? Would you like to recommend me buy this SUV? Please I need your real life based experience rather than video talks like many other guys do. Thankyou
Thanks for the thorough review! I was looking at the H6 Ultra but wanted to wait and see the Hybrid launch. Pretty convinced, was tossing up the Sportage GT but am test driving the H6 today Great review Paul! You're well ahead of other reviewers in the game. Wheels review was embarassing to watch...
Nice review. Thanks Paul mentioned the brake paddle at the end. I was test driving several cars for my next family car. I tried the 4WD H6 petrol. The major reason I didn't go ahead with H6 is the brake. The brake paddle is quiet firm during my test drive. I was braking very hard and the car didn't relatively slow when I am braking harder. Not like my current car. Let's say the brake paddle of my current car can be pushed 5cm (example). However, the H6 during the test drive only give me 2cm (compare to my current car) movement. For this 2cm movement, no matter how hard I brake, it was not slower more. The brake stopping distance is normal, just the feedback from the brake doesn't give me the confidence of the safety. Even though I personally doesn't like the piano black interior and the planet shape speed dash, the exterior & interior are above the expectation of the price.
3 minor downsides after my test drive.. A. The steering wheel is too thin and feels cheap. This could be easily fixed with a leather wrap. B. The badges! I feel even i couldve done a better job at designing a better badge/logo. C. The aircon controls couldve been physical Im ok with the drive and suspension. The cabin felt really quiet compared to my 2017 petrol forester 2.5is Giv us physical aircon controls and thr H6 is a winner!
Hey Sandeep That comment about the steering wheel being thin was exactly my thoughts. may be we being Indians are used to holding things lol. but ya I felt the same and turned it down . am hind of giving 2nd thoughts about it now as I am trying to get something with sun roof. planning to sell of my Hyundai Tuscon diesel elite. and would land thsk almost free lol at the same reselling price . but don't know if that would be a good decision or not
Paul if you can work out a way to measure road noise this would reward efforts that are made, help buyers looking for great roadtrip cars and potential influence the industry to do better. Winning. CE (&CAs) work in other areas I believe has influenced the industry eg. Handling, safety, value & warranty.
It's a shame most people fear buying them, it will take a lot of time to proof they have good built quality, reliability and dealer network. Same process Kia went through the Chinese brand will too especially on quality and reliability.
They already selling hundreds of these in China mainland and it’s been proven to be reliable. However people will need time to find out for those are new to this brand.
One thing is worth mentioning Toyota is known for making their interior simple and working on something that can make a car more reliable than having a cool interior. Don't get me wrong, I love a car with a modern interior, but most of these competitors try to make their own car look more sophisticated to swing the buyer towards themselves. However, I don't think they have much to offer when it comes to ownership. I know some people who owned GWM, and they didn't say good things about it, but I'm not sure about the newer models. Another example is other reputable car brands such as Hyundai and Kia, or Honda, which haven't released a decent SUV hybrid in Australia. My theory is because of the big surge in the price and committing to compete with Toyota. On the other hand, I think Toyota still provides good value for money Hybrid packages with a decent tech embedded inside and leading the Hybrid technology in the world. Finally, it is good to have competition in the Hybrid segment in Australia as we don't want Toyota dealers to be complacent.
Lol that's not an excuse for butt ugly interiors, also Haval is more reliable than Toyota so again, just accept that fact Toyota is fugly, dated and overpriced.
Excellent review, as usual, thank you! But I remember you did the same 0-100 test on petrol version only and it was similar result. How is that possible if hybrid has more power and especially torque?
Looking forward to the new modern badging of Haval in next model and additional DAB radio and auto high beams which cars 30k have standard so hopefully will be specd up soon
Just watched Bjorn Nyland test this in Thailand. he tested this vehicle in Eco mode that runs the car in pure electric an I went 165 km. No Aussie test has done this and it is a huge bonus, most people can run this without ever or rarely using petrol!
Rav 4 waiting time in Perth is up to two years, yet there are always a few for sale by the dealers at 10-15K over the order price, makes one definitely want to look elsewhere
@@borgie83 where all the reports of broken down Haval H6s? I don't see any.. you'll be driving past me and everyone else in a EV by the time you get your boring rav 4.. everyone said the same about kia and Hyundai until they took off.. what are you doing commenting on all these Haval videos anyway of you're so settled in your bland rav 4?
@@mharro88 considering that it has the word “RAV4” in the title, it’s not rocket science how I found this video. Regarding the problems, I know 2 people who own them (neighbour and a work colleague) and both told me that they’re looking forward to selling them and that they’ll never get a Haval again. Constantly in and out of the dealership for problems. Mainly electrical problems. As if Haval is going to make it public and tarnish their sales.
It is unfortunate that they have interior trims in black. Will be hot in Aussie summer. I have seen similar model sold in Thailand with better trim colours.
Don’t do it imo. My neighbour and work colleague both purchased new Haval’s within the last 2 years. They’ve both constantly been in and out of the dealership for repairs. Your choice though but don’t say I didn’t warn you lol
You should actually ask a Haval h6 owner, plenty on the road and see more every day. Any car manufacturer can break down or get a dud, it happens. Look up Jeep and Range Rover. I was sceptical at first, it was a risk not going to lie but happy with it so far and drives great.
This is your hard earned money. Why pay midrange Toyota money to get a car with unproven long-term reliability and terrible resale value. This will be worth half of a Toyota or Mazda when you go to sell it in a few years time. You absorb that loss directly, that far outweighs it being a few grand cheaper when new. 7 year warranty means jack when you are constantly back at the dealer with random issues - every brand that needs to prove themselves have a 7 year warranty. Kia did the same thing but now has proven to be reliable. Haval has yet to. The day they do, I’ll back them, honestly it’s too soon to tell apart from Haval owners who’ve owned it for 4 months and are keen to tell you this is hands down better than Toyotas that have PROVEN to make it through two decades of heavy use easily.
Who is everyone? Cause actual Haval owners like the one below are ALL saying the exact opposite, Haval has been the number one selling SUV brand in China for a decade and cannot be if they weren't reliable.
@@brycem0 anyone that chooses a Haval over a RAV4 or any Toyota for that matter doesn’t know stuff all about cars. I’m replying to you instead of him because I’m embarrassed to be in his comment section to begin with.
As always your videos are fab. Appreciate your work. But I have confusion if you want to choose between Rav4 HV GXL AWD Auto CVT which is now $50453 and Haval H6 Ultra hybrid which is $46103 then which one would you go for. I am getting both the cars in next week for the above mentioned price, so availability is not the issue for me. I am really confused and unable to make the decision. After sale market of haval is not so good as compared to Rav4. And now they have raised the price of rav4 so I am not sure is it worth to buy Rav4 or haval at this time now. Is this something you can please guide on. By any chance if you can please reply little early it would be really appreciated.
@@JuggernawgHD Rav 4 is now increasing price every week.. the last price is now revised to 52000$ for gxl model.. I'm going with Haval h6 hybrid... Luxurious features with 7 years warranty... And 7000$ cheaper...
I get lost when the total power of the car decreases when combined,cos my poor maths says 110hp+130hp=240hp. So where does the rest of the power go when combined? Why does it make a combination of 179hp rather than 240hp?pls help an old man is lost.
It's actually very easy once you get the logic behind it. An internal combustion engine typically produces peak power and peak torque later in its rev band. An electric motor produces its peak power and torque much earlier. You reach a combined power and torque output when both of these peak - that is, when the combination of the internal combustion peak and the electric motor peak is at its highest. If you had two electric motors configured in the same way, you could add them both together to get a peak because they both reach their maximums at the same time. But, because an internal combustion engine and an electric motor reach their respective peak at different times, you can only achieve a maximum number when they are both at their highest. Hope that makes sense.
Nice review guys. Quick question: does the screen in front of the driver go sun blind under certain angles? During the review it definitely seemed like it did...
Very very nice, Can you do a review on the mustang GTR 500 2020/2022 please it is my dream car. I won't to know will it be worth it to spend so much money on it
Let's wait a few years to see how it fares especially in term of reliability and durability. And when it does need repairs how readily available are the parts and costs.
The reliability definitely isn’t there. It’s basically a shiny turd according to my neighbour and work colleague who both purchased new Haval’s within the last 2 years. Constantly in and out of the dealership for repairs.
If nothing else Chinese cars and SUV pricing will force other manufacturers to listen to the consumer's and revise there inflated prices for to long they have taken us for fools and rest assured they had better get moving time running out to
Great review, but can’t help but feel these types of cars are being propped up by over-positivity about their adequate aspects. When in reality - ride and long term reliability are both fundamentally mediocre.
I had one of these as a courtesy car. Not great yet, but a pretty impressive thing none the less. Reminds me of Kia/ Hyundai 10 years ago. Look at them now!! PS. What is your link with 'Chasing Cars'?
@@wcrash9361 Agree. Point is that anything that came from Korea originally, was very ordinary. China is catching up fast. PS SO WILL THE PRICES OF CHINESE CARS!!
I ordered this car 4 months ago and it was meant to arrive mid April. Plus I also ordered a petrol h6 7 months ago. Any information please as to when they will be actually arriving? Thanks for the great review.
Great review Paul. I’ve got a 2022 Toyota RAV4 edge hybrid and love it to bits. While the Haval looks great, In my opinion nothing comes close to a Toyota in terms of reliability and hybrid technology.
Your not wrong about that when comes to cars. But the car fuel injection engines has been running more than 20 years. What make u think other company cars cant keep up to the standard by now? How long does it take you to learn how to cook the proper fried rice? Is not hard to learn to make fried rice but only different is the ingrediant how you wanted it or how customer mostly preferred? But 2020s is an EV era coming. So is a new challenging to all motor companies when comes to fully electric vehicle. At the moment the master of EV is Tesla. But in the next 5 years maybe china taking it over the top stella. Becuase they have been manufacturer for over 50 years for techs more than any other countries. Those 50 years experiences have made millions of China techman as master level. Think of how many talented people in China today. Yes in the past they have bad history with shitty product and unreliable brands. But success comes from failures experiences.
I have a 2020 RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid. It has pros and cons and overrated IMO. As for the battery, the H6 uses a lithium oxide one whereas the RAV4 has a vintage Nickel Hydride one. Maybe that's why the H6 drives more a EV more of the time. The RAV4 NVH is a serious bugbear from day one. Toyota should something to make that 2.5 atmo engine less harsh and thrashy.
if you know the brand called byd in china and its hyper hybrid tech as well as its EV tech, u will never say that nothing comes close to a Toyota in terms of reliability and hybrid technology.
@@ashs6733 Lol Toyota is way behind and even Toyota is buying BYD's batteries for its EVs. Haval is more reliable than Toyota and has been the number one selling SUV brand in China for over a decade. BYD is number one in the world for EV sales, EV battery tech and hybrids. Their hybrids run on battery power only the motor is only there to recharge the battery, fuel consumption is next to nothing and pure electric range is 350KM+, Toyota is 30 years behind any major Chinese brand. Crawl out from under your rock already.
Does that mean driving on 110km/h for 3 hours it will be on petrol only ? Or it will switch between battery and petrol thus we get the savings required ? Pls let me know
I was about to comment that you never comment on the brakes and how they feel but you did mention it this time. Also you never comment on the headlights and how good or not good they are at night. I do a lot of night driving and found my Prado with led headlights to be fantastic by my Suzuki Swift is meh on low beam and horrid on high beam. Subaru Impreza my son had was the worst lights I’ve ever seen.
Depend on what mode you drive. If you go sport mode then it use both hybrid and normal engine at the same time, giving you the highest kw and torque which is the sum of 2 engine
Let’s give GMW another 5 yrs or so. If their older models are still good and they don’t rock up the prices too dramatically then perhaps it’s time to switch for me.
You will get burnt on resale value. If it was far cheaper than a Kia/Hyundai, I’d go for it. At this point it’s at price parity with a Toyota RAV4 hybrid. So there’s really no reason to go for this - a RAV4 Cruiser at that, we aren’t comparing a base RAV4 to a high spec Haval. This isn’t even factoring the rock solid reliability of Toyota and the extensive dealer network. This car only makes sense if it severely undercuts the RAV4 Hybrid.
Hi Paul, Is it a CVT transmission of CVT like? Haval says its DHT never heard this before and found you saying CVT like so just got bit confused as I am not a fan of CVT with worst experience in the past. If their DHT is also CVT and they just fooling us using different term is a deal breaker for me. Pls help!