@@TarakKakkar Oh wealthy capitalist. We bath in the greatness of your wealth........ Please share your advice to greatness. It must include owning a Landrover? The irony of your name being a business that has peaked and is now a nobody, isn't lost on me, BTW!!!
Have the exact color combo in a 2018 HSE Lux, and absolutely love it. The last row seats are "actual" seats, at 5'11" i can get in and sit very comfortably, they are heated as well so great for Canadian winters. Speaking of winters, this car has given my family tremendous confidence in ANY weather conditions. From minus 40 degrees in heavy blowing snow to plus 35 degrees in the middle of a hot summer, this car is super comfortable and safe. The heated windscreen and heated headlight washer a huge bonus in winter. The climate control 1st and second row seats, with massage in the 1st row make for a superb ride. No reliability issues either in 4 years worth of on road and off road driving. My only misgiving is I have the old "V6" lump, and I've driven the new in in-line 6 and what a difference, the inline is so smooth and balanced in comparison to the V which admittedly sounds and feels harsh and unrefined.
thanks. what about cold weather impacting hoses or clamps. Does your car have turbo? ever have issues with hoses popping off? This has happened numerous times to me leaving me stranded. I learned the real definition of 'reliability' only after getting my land rover.
Something worth highlighting is that it's a brilliant tow car. I've an 11 year old Range Rover that has covered over 120,000 miles - much of which were covered pulling my daughter's horsebox to various competitions. I borrowed one of these for a weekend and it was fantastic - even more stable on the road than the RR. So boat owners and horsey people should look at it seriously.
My Discovery is 4 years old and still love it.. Last year I drove 1200k to Fraser Island and on the Island I got 12.2 litres per 100klms with the TD6. It never even looked like getting stuck. It is the 4WD for Dummies. The Swiss Army knife of cars. Great on road and great off road. I did a video if you want to see how it went
Totally agree...some have said that the offset license plate is a deal "killer". What? I don't know why some hate on the license plate so much...I don't even think about mine
We recenty updated from a Kluger to a 2018 Discovery HSE TD6 V6 Diesel and we absolutely love everything about this truck...an absolute joy to drive very economical, wish we made the switch sooner and look forward to many more family trips as well as one-way upgrading to the next generation Discovery Diesel/Hybrid...loke the Dynamic look or as it was once called the black pack which makes heads turn when you pull up. I've lost count with people asking me what is this vehicle when we go out as everyone is more accustomed to BMW and Mercedes or Audi and then the Discovery adds more spice to the mix...
Recently test drove both Defender and Disco, one huge issue is all future delivery models WILL be dumbed down due to chip shortage. For example to drivers side digital screen will be gone into 2024, they are reverting back to the analog screen as previous models. Other options will be severely restricted. Maybe worthwhile focusing on this issue of Dealers displaying vehicles that we cannot buy. Also LR factories in slowdown, shutdown so god knows how this would effect parts supply, the electronics issue you mention in the video Paul will likely require a non-existent replacement, this bit of kit 'must' perform flawlessly as it controls just about everything, maybe they would replace whole vehicle which has been done. We walked away.....
Love this vehicle. Great review as usual, you always give realistic reviews of how the car will be used. Please do a BMW X7 next. I would love to see a comparison of Discovery 5, Landcruiser 300, X7, and GLS as 7 Seater vehicles. Which is more practical...
I just wish this car was a bit more rugged. I feel like the new Defender should be the Discovery and the Ineos Grenadier should be the new Defender. I don't think this is a bad car but as a kid who grew up in a series 1 Land Rover Discovery, I feel like this doesn't do the name justice. My dad took me to some incredible places in that thing and I just don't think this could do the same thing.
Totally understand what u say. But LR purposely pushed the Disco a lot more upmarket with the Disco 5. It’s hugely capable off road Massively versatile car, on road, and off road. The new Defender is brilliant, and if u want a rugged looking vehicle, the Defender is the one to buy.
@@StephenFogarty2023 Again there is no denying the Disco 5 is versatile I just think Land Rover should of maybe given it a different name, made the new defender the discovery 5 and came out with something similar to the Grenadier. A flag ship off-roader that still gives Land Rover that "Rugged" feel and appeal that the city dwellers love so much.
Problem is that the Ineos Grenadier is the Old Defender. The new Defender is the Defender for the 21st century. The old design is just too old and unsafe etc. The new Defender couldn’t be the Discovery as it doesn’t look like one - it looks like a Defender. The 5th Gen Discovery looks like a Discovery. LR have got it right. For people who like to complain - start up your own car company and do it better. It’s so annoying 2 years in to hear people Still complaining about what Land Rover called what and what each vehicle is & what they think LR should have done. Move on.
I don't understand why people get upset about the offset number plate. That has been a feature on every Discovery since the first generation. I think the Land Rover designers have done a great job with the design.
I ordered the MY23 HSE diesel in Carpathian Grey in November and I’m still waiting on a build date. I’m hoping for delivery late this year, happy for you to test it when I get it too Paul.
I’ve just ordered one mate. Builds are due to start in March. Production was stopped to allow more Defender production which is more profitable. But, all Disco orders will be built as MY23 models now, even if a MY22 model was ordered.
Yeah, the plate is really wierd. However, you don't have to look at it when you drive it. I own a 2017 and the interior is great, but I do still shake my head whenever I walk around the back. But.. all in all, great car
I’m a massive LR/RR fan. On my 4th RR. I personally really miss the previous Discovery or LR3/LR4 as sold in the US. The rear end of this model looks abnormally narrow. As a RR owner, the small flat top layer is pretty useless when you lift it to get into the bigger storage space in console. Coins or whatever tend to fall in between seats or in the lower storage area when you lift it. The LR4 was a fantastic looking true LR and used/pre-owned ones are still in very high demand here in the US.
Tyres look like highway terrains....? However, these things are amazing vehicles. Throw some smaller wheels and all terrains and they'll go anywhere*. The rear end is awesome. It's their own signature look. Plus allows owners to flex its booty. (*locations where the general population would take it)
They look nice but, unfortunately, JLR are focusing more on style over substance. We work with JLR and I know alot of the mechanics and they are still horrifically unreliable. Mechanically they're not too bad, but for some reason JLR just can't resolve their electrical and computational problems.
@@cameronmurray3039 “Just as reliable as German equivalents”. Now that’s the definition of ‘damning with faint praise’. When they are at Japanese levels of reliability I’m sure many more people will trust the brand enough to buy. Even the British motoring press (who love the LR brand and pretend it’s still 100% British) will admit quality and reliability still needs work
I really like the landrover products…. Especially the new defender… but I just cannot buy because as soon as I leave the city… nobody can service or repair …. At least in Australia…. So it’s Japanese products for those that want to do touring & towing the caravan
Great review Paul, I have really been waiting for this one. It is a good looking car all round, in my eyes, and deceptively big. Shame about the electrical glitches. 🇰🇪
As well as the petrol engines being awesome, the diesels are too. Also, the facelift seemed to add slightly stiffer suspension which may make off-roading and going over sudden bumps a bit more jiggly and crashy but it improves the body control and allows you to enter corners with a bit more confidence
I always get annoyed with all the car manufacturers when they give the name to their infotainment systems and many times silly names too (when they try to make them sound technical). Why on earth they need the name. It is not like they are some brand names of electronics companies or known names of any car parts manufacturers. It is not like that if they dont name their infotainment system you get into your car and cannot find it because you forgot the name of your car infotainment system. OK if you buy the same brand car and they put different info models into their different price range car models you could understand if they give you model number of their unit and just change suffix number to it to mark cheaper or more advanced models. But even then they usually differ in screen size anyways and dont need the model number or name at all. But then they add a suffix name like: PRO! So they must make the same model for amateurs and this model is for professional only. What profession is this you have to train yourself to when you have to use this info system professionally? Especially if it comes faulty.
Totally disagree. call the basic version Totally Useless in Relevance Description (TURD). Everyone will pay extra for the Pro version 💪 ps, I did actually enjoy your rant
I went to land rover dealership to buy this spec in Melb they mentioned only engine for Disco sport is P250 SE 4 cylinder. I did good 1 hour test drive loved this car but scared of all the rumours about mechanical and electrical faults Lil scared to spend 110k AUD if the car is not very fault free Any comments any help any confidence booster
The rear miss is what makes it different. All the others did not miss the rear as the all look alike. I ordered a ‘’missed rear’’ in Silicon Silver, R-dynamic trim.
Thank You LR for getting rid of the stupid rotary shift knob, that is one of the things I hate with my Evoque. Hopefully they fix the infotainment issues. This is on my list since I need a 7 seatser now, if only I can find one reasonably close and Not Black or White
JLR, famous for electrical gremlins. Honestly would never trust a JLR product especially for serious off roading or somewhere remote like the outback. They tested the new defender in Kenya and on more occasion's than they'd like to mention the defenders had to be rescued by Toyota land cruisers.
Great review Great car It’s so versatile and can do everything for a large family. It is a much better alternative to the new LC 300, in so many ways. I’d buy the D300 motor 220 kw / 650 nm Huge torque, grunt and fantastic economy.
@@StephenFogarty2023 I am weighing the two up. Why do you think the disco is so much better than the LC 300? Do you know of any reviews doing a direct comparison?
@@calanais Depends on your requirements, and what is important to you. Is your budget $ 100 k Or $ 150 k ? Ability to comfortably tow 3.5 tonne ? Off road ability ? Comfort as a 7 seater ? As a 7 seater, Disco is better. More room in Row 3. Row 2 in LC is fixed. In the Disco, you can slide Row 2 forward / back, which gives a lot of versatility with the seating arrangements. Disco has higher GVM & GCM. Disco can be at GVM, and still tow 3.5 tonne. LC can’t do this. A new GXL LC costs over $ 110 k on road, before options. No power tailgate No rain sensing wipers No surround view camera Locking front & rear diff aren’t available on GXL. Prices constantly going up with all manufacturers, and spec / equipment levels changing etc. Closely review the features on each model etc..
my guess is that the hatch switch that toggles the functionality of the climate control panel for the use of the cubby space behind it is a little loose or the fitting is so as the car travels along the vibrations toggle it on and off hence the constant screen changing and lighting on and off
Paul we are about to order a MY23 Disco R Dynamic HSE P360 after testing driving a new LC300. I wanted to love the LC300 but couldn’t with its crappy sat nav graphics, lack of refinement, lack of tech at the $150k price tag. P.S that orange colour ain’t available anymore. Devo!!!!
What colour did you get? I ordered the same in Byron Blue, not 100% sure how much I will like it, fingers crossed. My last one was a 2017 Namib Orange and it was a fantastic colour and car.
Great video Paul, as usual. I feel like you should mention what sort of suspension these cars have, especially the 4wds. And by that I mean, do they have a solid axle rear or independent and same for the front. I'm guessing this one is independent front and rear
Let’s just say that u r near the car, and someone tries to attack u, or steal things from u. Activate the Panic Alarm Attract attention to u and the vehicle Scare the criminal away.
The strange design rear tailgate and offset number plate is a nod to the past when the spare tyre used to me mounted on the rear instead of underneath. I don’t like it personally but that’s why it’s like that.
I prefer all the way down, in the unlikely event of a rollover you won’t have an arm flung out of the window and onto the edge of the glass. Yes, it’s toughened glass but that stuff still has sharp edges. This is an old fear of mine from ever since I did an advanced driving course back in the early 90’s and the instructor hammered it into my brain.
The Discovery 5 "competes with the BMW X5, Merc GLE, and the Audi Q7". What, on the road perhaps? Off-road it'll keep up with the best and leave the BMW, Merc and Audi behind in the car park.
I just picked up my 2022 Disco P360 Dynamic R and no electrical problem so far. Traded a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit with V8 HEMI. The Disco is less thirsty (but uses Premium fuel thou) than the Jeep and a little more smoother… very impressive for a 6 cylinder. But the Jeep had a little more tech than my current Disco. We’ll see how things go long term… fingers crossed… my 1st JRL product
@@jaskhera6614 back in December…. Any orders placed now will be for 2023 model… I think dealers will be adding a markup also very difficult to pay MSRP, they’ve implied the JLR is to blame
That stupid "offset" rear hatch treatment is a hangover from the Discovery 1 days when the spare tyre was on the rear of the vehicle. Can't see why they've kept it, it's unnecessary and looks weird.
Great car I’m not a fan of the offset design of the rear tailgate. In the UK, a company sells a normal looking tailgate, that is OEM quality, and it looks fantastic. I’d seriously get this shipped from the UK, and fitted locally to the Disco.
Another great review. Just wondering what would happen if you were to turn the car off in off road mode ie when doing the wheel lift test. Would the car lower itself?
You can and should turn that auto lowering into access height Off. You should really only use it when entering a low parking building (that’s really what it’s for) or putting heavy/large stuff in the back. If you have it hunker down into access height and back to normal each time you turn it off you put the airbag suspension through much more than normal wear and tear and they will fail prematurely requiring repairs sooner that should be necessary. Best to just leave it in normal height and only change height as and when actually needed (use access height to let granny in sure). The problem with rear door windows going all the way down is that the manufacturer has to make the window much smaller (less wide), make the door very square or put in a little quarter glass. That’s why most never do.
The will automatically try and level itself but it’s not safe or advisable to turn off a car when in an off-road situation where not all wheels are stable. One great thing about land rovers is they have massive oil sumps so they can have oil in engine if parked on steep hills so when you turn the car off and on it’s always got oil in engine no matter the angle (within standard operating boundaries which I think is 45degrees). Perfect for those that park on steep driveways all the time.
The spec are increct upon approach and departure angle, and also the ground cleanrance..., I suppose the off-road pick was wrong while went for the first climing.
Great video as always. Just wondering any chance to test out A4 45TFSI, 206 arteon, 330i and std range model3. Really want to know how they compare, many thanks.
Landrover/ JLR are known for electric failures had a very bitter experience with a discovery sport I couldn't manage it more than 3 months returned it back to company and got my cash back
Looking forward to your review on the new Grand Cherokee. The American reviewers have been very biased and they are overrating the car with all the glittering dust. Personally, I would go for that one instead of the Discovery, or any other LR car for that matter.
Can someone please advise which is the best engine? I would be putting years of savings on a car and want to make aure to order the one with best reliability
Great review.... I would like the Ford f 150 to be featured on this channel.... May be Ford engines have better economy due to the 10 speed transmission
