NEW VERSION of IOS Shortcut Range calculator created 02/04/22! See video description for links to different calculator versions. Full instructions here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KvVnpvhO8Ss.html. CORRECTION: The BWM i3 uses a Samsung battery that was not adapted to the Mini. The Mini uses a Chinese CATL battery. The EV motor in the MINI was adapted from the i3.
Thank you for this video, especially the hints about how to find the true remaining charge and the trip odometer. I watched this video over 4 months ago while I was deciding whether to go ahead and buy one, and now that I've had mine for a week, I searched to find this video again as a reminder of how to find the real data and calculate the range. I knew that the GOM was not accurate, but I needed a refresher on how to calculate the better estimate. It doesn't appear that you are planning to make a version for Android phones, but it seems that I could easily make a spreadsheet like yours to let it do the math. I was already doing a similar thing to keep track of MPG on my old ICE Jetta, so keying in the data after each trip or after each full 100% recharge wouldn't be too much trouble. It's true that I wouldn't have that so handy on the phone, I suppose, but once I get a feeling for the car's efficiency under my driving style and usual roads, I'll have a better idea of what the real range would be. I appreciate this video very much!
I’m glad you found this helpful! Thanks for taking the time to comment. I’m just a guy without an Android in the house, so I don’t have the means to create such a calculator. I’m hoping someone on the Inside EVs forum with an Android will create one eventually.
Nice video. My I3 with the 94ah battery gets 130 miles on a good day. For range, I just divide the miles driven by percentage battery left. In your case. (100/.75)=133.33
Once again I must say thank you for yet another really useful, concise video. Much has been said about a the Mini SE (Mini Cooper S Electric here in the UK) range and indeed it’s less than useful GOM but at the heart of owning a Mini SE is the love of owning a Mini that is also an BEV, two things that make me happy every time I drive mine. I drive mine daily, 99% of my car journeys are in it, yes it isn’t the BEV for road trips but then I don’t road trip much and if I do I have an old ICE Mini Countryman that stands in.
@@minise-focus On my side I'm ditching my ICE car, even if that means longer trips. We only live once and climate urgency is a thing. Already started doing longer trips by train, even if I own a nice ICE car that is sweet to drive on highways. I don't feel guilt any more for being selfish on long trips, already without the SE. The electric Mini is only there to top it off.
Thanks for this video! I've only had my SE for about 2 months, and haven't even gotten to 300 miles yet, so I'm looking forward to pushing it to its limit.
Thanks for this! I am trying to get a better sense or range before heading out on a “road trip”. I suspect that living close to work and also on and island that is only 40 miles wide I am an ideal customer for this car (after 6 days of driving to work and errands I was still at 59% battery), though I have not yet tested my Mini going to one of the further parts of the island yet. My main challenge is public charging infrastructure here is terrible- there are a lot of chargers but very few are working.
I agree 100%, a mini is ideal for city drives and an an older ICE for the long trips, no need to own a EV with a massive battery that costs way more than the mini and your older ICE
The shortcut is QUITE helpful. Headed out in my '21 SE for my first long trip to an Earth Day event to show off my boss car, Evvy the EV. About 30m away the range dropped fast and I was in Green+ driving conservatively. Scared the bejabbers out of me as I was out close to the middle of nowhere. But it was fine. Your tool will be very helpful to keep my powder dry in future. Also had no idea about that odo reset button!
@@minise-focus hi. I live in Scotland. I am having difficulty finding the link for the calculator. It seems a wonderful idea. It would be great if you or anybody coukd help. Thanks.
Very informative! I’ve just bought the Mini SE in London, Same spec as yours. The “range” on the screen is really off putting as it gives you a false sense of range. Now I will check the miles recorded, thanks will do this next time.
Thanks for an informative video series and for the nice range calculator shortcut. Am I the only one who couldn't get it to function? I had a scroll through the script and couldn't see why it doesn't show the results (used decimals for percent). I have a Level 3/maximize in enigmatic black on order, will be put through it's paces in Norway!
You're welcome! I'm sorry the shortcut is not working for you. My iPhone 12 is running IOS 14.7.1. My first guess would be, perhaps, you are running an older IOS version?
I had the same problem. It probably is caused by different standards concerning the decimal sign - dot or comma. Try changing the code 28.9 to 28,9 in two places
Amazing. Thank you! I’m debating buying a ‘23 or waiting for the ‘24, which is reported to have 200+ range. But a few style changes and another 18 month wait. Would you share your thoughts and advice? I live in Texas with a 30” commute/around 20 mi.
At that commute range of 20 miles the current '23 will serve you well, as long as you don't need the SE for longer road trips often. My family still uses our Honda CR-V when we hit the road due to the lack of wide-spread charging stations in SC. I feel like there are too many questions around the '24 at this point to make a call on it. Apparently, it will be manufactured in China, while the '23 is still being made in Oxford, England. (In case you have a preference on where it's made.) It it was me, and range was not an issue, I would go ahead on the '23. When the '24 comes out, it will be a new platform. My personal preference is to not buy the first iteration of a new car platform due to possible design / quality issues.
Thanks for the great video! I am trading in my Bolt and have narrowed it down to a Leaf 40wh or the Mini. My thought is that the Mini will have less battery degradation vs the leaf since it is actively cooled. I charge every night, so the range is not an issue for me. Any thoughts? I got burnt (not literally) by the Bolt and I am looking for a more tried and true battery pack.
If fun factor means anything to you, the Mini blows the Leaf out of the water, from what I have seen other people post, in terms of driving fun. I have never driven a Leaf, however. I recommend you drive both if you can.
Range is my only issue with this Mini. I love Minis but stayed away from BMW minis because of parts and service cost. I see this as a way around that but I agree with the video. Range is not sufficient for road trips particularly with EA chargers. I don’t road trip a lot however I don’t consider 120 miles to be a road trip. That’s just a short day trip
@@minise-focus I feel like the main issue is the Mini was not designed from the ground up to be an EV. If they could up the battery capacity by 50% I would be interested but I think it’s a limitation of the chassis space. Still makes for a good daily driver for many people but I do 200 to 300 mike trips once a month at least so I would probably have to keep an ICE vehicle for those trips
@@stephenbritt6557 I would consider an ID4. Only issue is they rely on electrify America for fast charging and they can be unreliable. I am sure they will get better in the next couple of years and I probably won’t trade until then
Hi, Thanks a lot, great video!!! By the way, have you compared the calculated average miles per gallon, against the value stated by the Mini's onboard computer? Also, have you actually compared the amount of energy charged into the car, against the percentage charged and net battery capacity? Again, thanks a lot!!!
On the first question - no. On the second question, there is loss of efficiency during the charging process, if I'm interpreting your question correctly. So you will put more kWh into the battery than you actually used while driving. But I have not measured the difference.
@@minise-focus When I get my own SE, I will be able to answer such questions about charging efficiency. I have what is needed for that, namely live consumption from the household power meter, every 10 seconds. You'll only have to wait 6 months, as my SE ordered yesterday is slated to be delivered ... in February! :/
@@kalak211 You are now in the hardest part - the wait! I ordered Jan 6 and took delivery mid April. The chip shortage has really impacted the orders recently, from what I've seen on the Inside EVs forum. I obsessively tracked my Mini even on the cargo ship. Good info on this thread if you have not seen it. www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/how-to-track-your-mini-se-build-and-shipping.10157/
@@minise-focus Thanks for the tip, will definitely dig deeper there, although I live in a country next to Germany so these may not apply in full (as the only maritime drive from the UK to EU should be rather fast in comparison to deliveries to the US). That said I fully agree with the issues on chip shortages. I had ordered one already in June but was forced to cancel because they could not deliver the Harman Kardon sound system any more. Now that it is available again, I pulled the trigger :)
@@kalak211 Also be aware of the parking sensor situation. There are still people on the Inside EVs forum being told by Mini that their cars will not have one or both of the front and rear sensors for parking assistance. www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/2022-se-missing-rear-parking-sensors.11132/page-3#post-143262
We own a Tesla model Y long range. My second Tesla. My first was a model S and before that a volt. My wife wanted an ev too. So we test drove the mini se and I love it and it is easily 1/2 the price of the cheapest model 3. Plus as a seasoned ev driver I know that day to day. 114 miles is more than enough. After all it is replacing an 8 year old Volvo wagon that has less than 40;000 miles. We won’t do road trips. Those willb in the Tesla
Sounds like the SE is a perfect (and cheaper) complement to your household. I tell anyone who asks, and some who don't ask, that the SE is one of the better price values out there if the range is not an issue for their use case. The fit and finish for the price is really good.
Interesting way to calculate range. Would you also need to take into account any capacity degradation due to aging? The 28.9 kWh figure is for a new battery, right?
Of course this is wonderful information, and thank you. But, (and as an EV owner), having to do range calculations on a regular basis, contributes to range anxiety. I'm here as part of my research, was highly considering the Mini. But now, with this info, of how inaccurate the range meter is, I'm seriously reconsidering. BMW really goofed here! The range is acceptable for me, but still isn't much. Now, to deal with a range meter that is off significantly, and I have to break out the math. It's issues like this, that are definitely a deterrent for the masses to adopt. Not being negative, just realistic. I love the Mini SE!
It's not as big of a 'daily use' issue as you might think. I only worry about range when I'm making a road trip (130+ miles) where I know I will have to charge at a public facility. I have not manually calculated range in a few months now. Once you know what your Mini is capable of, you can just keep an eye on the battery % and estimate in your head if you are getting low. I would not let the poor range meter prevent you from purchasing the SE since you said the range is acceptable. It is such a capable EV.
You can open the shortcut in the Shortcuts IOS app and edit all of the references from miles to kilometers to make it look better. But, otherwise, just key kilometers and know that when it says 'miles' it's really km!
Can you elaborate about how far off the miles/kWh that the car states is from your calculated miles/kWh? Folks are testing this car online with far lower miles/kWh (3.4-3.5) than you seem to be managing. Is the car also misstating the miles/kWh average, or is that onscreen figure accurate? Does the miles/kWh automatically reset when the trip meter is set? Thanks for any advice MINI SE drivers can give on the actual range of these cars. Seems to be between 100 and 150, and few have driven way beyond 0% which sees to be available, but not necessarily without risk of battery damage if used there intentionally.
I have not tested the accuracy of the mi/kwh display on the trip computer because I always calculate my own. It has been a few days since I drove my SE, so I just checked some stuff tonight. It appears to be a running average that does not reset until you reset it manually with a long press of the button on the stalk. It does not reset when you reset miles. Over the winter, and with me driving almost 100% in Sport mode, my average miles per charge has dropped a little - I’m currently averaging around 122 miles of range overall. But I know if I drive more conservatively in Green mode (or really, just in Mid) that I can get that range back up to 128 or so pretty easily. If you look at some threads on the Inside EVs forum, I am not the only SE driver averaging in the 120s for range. Especially in warmer weather.
As a follow up - I just competed 87 miles in Sport mode with the mi/kwh meter reset to zero. The guess-o-meter said I had 28 miles remaining. Calculated range had 39 miles remaining. My calculated mi/kwh was 4.37 - the TRIP COMPUTER mi/kwh read 4.3. So that is pretty accurate. My total range could have been around 126 miles. Warmer weather definitely helps.
I just use 1 mile per percent so if there is 100% then I have 100 miles and if there is 20% then I have 20 miles. I start looking for a charger anywhere below 20 unless I’m less than 20 from home then I just go home.
I just put the Range calculator version 2.0 in the video description - a new link. It now prompts for either miles or kilometers. Let me know if you spot any problems.
@@dannysteiner370 The main part I was not sure about - do Canadian EV enthusiasts refer to km/kWh as the efficiency measurement, or is the standard mi/kWh?
For any big metropolitan in US, Mini is fun but who want to fill the gas after every 3 gallon. I wish BMW stop make this type of car but ‘people’ are buying them… Buying mini with 3 gal fuel tank capacity for $32k is a joke.
I guess I am a “people”. If you don’t have a place to regularly charge it (like at home), then it’s probably not the car for you. At my house we have three ICE vehicles and the SE. For around town and short trips, the MIni costs very little to operate. A gas fill up of one of our SUVs is currently around $45, and they get around 3 times the range of the SE. The SE costs $4 for a full charge, so $12 for equivalent mileage. Versus a $45 fill up. I just plug it in at night when needed. My first scheduled maintenance with Mini is a brake check two years from my purchase date. Other than that, I have to pay for windshield wiper fluid and tire rotations. And in 2023 I get a $7,500 tax credit. For my household, the Mini makes a lot of sense and saves money over operating an ICE.
@@cadriver2570 strictly for commuting only though. If you drive RT from SF to SJ, then making third stop is questionable. Also hotter days in summer & cooler days in winter is not fun as range anxiety kicks in for those trips. $30,000 is not cheap and for SF & LA area really need minimum 150 - 180 mile range EV (EPA rated) so one can travel comfortably at 70-75 MPH and use heater or A/C so stop calculating KWHs. No Doubt Mini EV is most fun & great car to drive. It’s way better that Tesla model 3 or model Y. But 115 mile really suited for smaller cities
@@clapon1907 Yep - based on what you describe with that geography - it would be tight. $30K minus tax credit of $7,500 makes it a worthy price point for buyers who don't have to worry about its range.
@@minise-focus we have L2 charger in the garage & the driveway that can be used simultaneously and we do have 2 EVs and ICE for longer trips. We had EVs since 2013. i3 range just didn’t cut it. Mini EV is such a great car and SO MUCH fun to drive but $30,000 can buy lots of gasoline. Hope BMW can make 180 mi range Mini EV (EPA rated) @ $35K, then probably a better bet.
