2023 K1600B OFFICIAL REVIEW VIDEO - BEST NEW BAGGER? 

Yes, I endorse this. You have identified the issue spot on. It's the tires that are the dynamic. I, too, have had the bagger, and on my 3rd change of tires, I was advised by a tire dealer to shift.. and the change made it a whole new bike ride. In fact, the bagger comes into its full form with the tires change. 👍🏻

That is great to know about the suspension modes!

He is right. Never happens for me in road esa mode. Also I put on the larger screen which stops the 'vortex' rear wind effect.

That’s a great recommendation!

Agreed, I love the RT platform!

Thank you man!

I’ve used it and can attest to that!

😂 guilty as charged.

Pro move! I completely agree that lower fairings seem to help a lot with high speed stability

@@ridemotos needless to say. I now have a 2023 k1600b, got to love 160hp out the door. Sick of throwing money into a bike for another 10 hp at every stage. Lol

@@crayzbiker have you noticed the wander and weave at highway speeds?

@@ridemotos yes I have, so it’s not just you. My road glide was so bad, the k1600b doesn’t bother me as much

@@crayzbiker good to know! Maybe we will ride together some day. Be sure to go check out our RideMotos RU-vid channel and website!

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Don’t blame you at all! I’ve ridden the GTL and they are completely fine! Seems this problem is specific to the Bagger version

That’s great to know! Still, a lot of work for something BMW should fix stock

Important takeaways are tires MUST be changed and on grand americas the windshield needs to be wider at the top and sides. The other changes mentioned are my search for perfection since I cruise around 90 or more most of the time. Ride hard in the twisties alit

In Australia, the Goldwing only comes with a DCT- the BMW still has manual shift - that alone makes me like the BMW.

I have a GSA - valve checks are way easier - boxer😉

I completely agree, I think as this bike gains traction in the bagger community, BMW will introduce more bold colors. Until then, I'd love to see some custom painted options!

Different tires don't help. I've tried several brands.

Disagree the Michelin Road GT6 tires did help and stiffen suspension. Replaced tires at 200 miles. See my other response in other question about wobble should help

@@patpaxton981 I've run Michelins, Pirellis, Bridgestone's, Avon's, just about everything. Tires don't help. It's not a tire issue. It's a design issue.

Now that would be something!

Did switching the tires make a big difference for you?

@@ridemotos I did not switch, but my RT has the Road 5 and I'm super happy with it.

I think a little different dash, and engine torque improve by about 10 ftlbs. I have had the GS and this k1600, and 1600 much smoother and crazy fast.

I got so excited to ride it we forgot to film that part!

Nope, I saw It on Yamaha 900 tracer +

I have both bikes. R1250GSA and the Bagger. I rode coast to coast on the GSA. ITS so comfortable! It just sucks up the Miles , handling is superb, tremendous fuel range , tons of storage , and the suspension just sucks up the bumps.

I have a k1600 GA, 2023 Goldwing DCT Tour, 1250 RT, and 1250 2022 GS. If I was riding interstate long distance my choice would be Goldwing first, then 1250 RT, GS then Grand America. If I was long distance not on interstate would be Grand America, then GS then Goldwing then 1250 RT. If in mountains would be GS first, then R T, K1600 B, then Goldwing. Though the 1600 B and Goldwing could be reversed either are good in the mountains though the BMW’S are more nimble and easier to maneuver through the curves

@@patpaxton981 first, congrats on an awesome lineup of bikes! Second, thanks for sharing 🤙

@@patpaxton981 I’m surprised you put the GS ahead of the K1600 for cross-country preference. I would of guessed the bagger would be more comfortable.

@@beri232 I own both the GS and the 1600 and if I’m doing a7 day mountain trip GS wins hands down for me as it is extremely comfortable. If I’m cross country but I’m not on the interstate but state roads like a long ride from the Carolinas to the Keys then the 1600 is the bike I’m taking every time. If I’m cross country on the interstate then the 1600 is not pleasant at all in heavy truck traffic or crosswinds despite all the changes I’ve made so the Goldwing DCT Tour is what I’m riding and second would be my 2020 1250 RT. The 1600 is hands down the most exciting bike I have ever owned, is thrilling to ride but power must always be respected.

Replace the stock #$@!$# Metzler tires with Michelin GT Road 6 tires, problem solved. and motorcycle ride is SIGNIFICANTLY improved. Love my 22 K 1600 B!!!

I have had 2 of these a 2020 and then bought a new 2022 model last year. Midnight edition. Until I saw this video I didn’t even know about the wandering and I must admit I still don’t know what it is. Love my bike great at what it does. I live in the Uk and the roads are all like canyons and twisty except for the motorways. Did the North Coast 500 last year Which is a tour of the Scottish highlands. 2 up with luggage for 12 days. No problems at all. I’m 5’8 with a 29 inch in seam. My advice is take one for a test ride. Get a feel for it. By the way most of my previous bikes have been Harley touring bikes and the BMW beats them hands down for me. But that being said it’s all subjective.

@@reddog8145 I did a video recently on my video library of testing a similar bike(GT) and was not pleased at all n

@@FLYANDRIDE15 I’ve never ridden the Gt but I did sit on one in the showroom. The whole set up was wrong for me. I found it very uncomfortable and turned down a test ride as a result. I had a 2018 R1200 RT which I bough new but found that after only 20 miles of any journey I had to get off and walk about. I found it that uncomfortable. My 2020 K1600b was like a breath of fresh air in comparison and I traded in the RT for it in 2021. Again I only sat on the bike but I knew instantly it was right for me. I got the 2022 model after a visit to my local dealer with my wife. She took an instant shine to it and asked me if I’d like it. In short she bought the bike for me after a really good trade in deal for my other K1600b. I think the bike is great. Most of my riding is 2 up and the bike pulls like a train. I had the option of a new Street Glide, a bike I’ve had before, but in comparison the K1600b does everything I need a bike to do way better than the Harley. For once I chose with my head and not my heart. As you can appreciate touring bikes are expensive and my last 4 bike I’ve paid cash for brand new. My advice would be not to judge the K1600b in the same light as the GT but have a test ride. I know I didn’t but I think if I’d taken the RT out I could have saved myself a lot of grief in the long run. Good luck with everything.

@@darrylbrooks7175 I think your dead right about the tyres. I’ve never gotten on with Metzler tyres but wait until they need changing before I do swap them for something better.

Sad because it’s one of the best features of the bike!

Mine dosn't have the optional floor boards and it still weaves in heavy winds or traffic.

@@m.f.m.67 the mystery continues. Is this a deal breaker for you, or something you can overcome?

I heard it was a bag issue...

Guys let me try to help. I have a new 2022 Grand America and 2023 Goldwing DCT Tour. The wobble issue in rough air or interstate full of trucks is real!! The real problem is the Tourpack. To greatly reduce the wobble I have done the following. I removed the tourpack with Leadbetter’s removal kit. The Bridgestone tires are garbage and I replaced them with Michelin Road GT6’s, went to Jurock windshield, and replaced the floorboards with Ilium engine guards and rotatable foot pegs. I have had many Harleys and the BMW floorboards suck in my opinion. This has greatly reduced the high speed wobble. It hates to be behind trucks on interstate. Some say the Wunderlich vented windshield helps a lot. This is clearly a aerodynamic problem. If you ride 2-up with someone blocking airflow over tourpack or put a piece of luggage to breakup air in front of tourpack definitely helps. All this being said this is the most exciting motorcycle I have ever owned or ridden. PERFORMANCE IS INCREDIBLE!! No bagger can touch it and I have had Harleys, new Indian Challenger. It is supremely comfortable. This is a heavy sport touring bike. I have the new Goldwing as it is the best long distance touring motorcycle for interstate touring undeniably. Though the performance isn’t even close to the other bike above fourth gear the BMW will walk away. Hope this helps.

Here in Australia, the Goldwing can only be bought with DCT. But, I can get this with a manual😉

Says the guy on the Beamer! Lol 🥴

Those are all good points Gary! I hadn’t considered the long term maintenance costs of BMW.

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Do the basic maintenance yourself oil/shaft changes, brakes, brake/clutch fluid changes are all relatively simple. Valve checks are the price to pay for a high performance machine. Not to knock Harley's but their performance doesn't come anywhere near this bike.

Harley has only two cylinders to maintain, no cooling system and 60+ less horsepower...there's less tech that's why it's less to maintain.

I've heard £1200 for valve clearance! Best to get spark plugs done same time, they £25 each!

What problems?

I totally understand!

I have an 18 model year B. I'd buy a new one if BMW would fix the high speed weave issue. They haven't so I won't. If BMW would fix it, they's sell a heck of a lot more of them.

@@m.f.m.67 is it so bad that you would switch bikes?

@@ridemotos I rode touring Harleys for years, but, as an old guy, the weight of those bikes was becoming an issue. At 750 lbs. the K1600 is noticeably lighter, plus the elec. reverse can save me some parking lot embarrassments! Honestly, it's a double-edged sword. On a winding two lane highway, the bike is a delight. Traveling down the interstate is pretty aggravating. Is everyone here aware that BMW put a 103 mph limiter on the GA due to the high-speed instability issue? Other than that "fix" BMW has chosen to ignore the problem. (Imagine, a $30,000 dollar motorcycle that can't outrun a Suzuki Burgman scooter!) It's bad enough that when someone else is riding along on their bike, they can see mine moving around. A touring bikes' most fundamental ability should be stability in a straight line. I think that makes it a failure as a touring bike.

The lane splitting is… legal, in California.

@@ridemotos it may be legal, but that doesn’t make it a smart move for safety.

Legal in California! Do you ride motorcycles?

@@ridemotos I do ride. I've also had a car mirror taken off by a guy doing that. It just seems unsafe and kind of inconsiderate, like cutting in line.

@@ridemotos I did like your review though. I'm on the fence about a new bike and this one seems really nice. Sort of an adventure/travel bike/muscle cruiser.

@@matthewpipoly it’s so important for us to have different opinions and still be able to have civil conversations. Much love! This bike is very very impressive if you don’t mind the price tag!

Just because lane splitting is legal doesn't mean its socially acceptable. You ride like an A-Hole and I pray that you don't end up on the wrong side of somebodies bad day.@@ridemotos

Wow! We haven’t heard of someone experiencing such drastic change with a tire swap. Very interesting

Who’s selling this? We don’t sell motorcycles, just “review” them. Sorry it didn’t meet your standards 🤦😂