Bought at 2018 Lincoln Navigator L with 44k miles for 50k 3 months ago for our family car and I’m still impressed every time I get in it. There’s a minor electrical probably where the side mirrors click back and forth when you use the memory seat function but other than that the car is perfect. It’s nice getting the, “what does he do for a living”, look for a change 😂 nah but seriously, the level of power and class the Navigator has over the Expedition is incomparable. If you find a good deal on used or have the money to buy a new one, go Navigator every time!
I just recently purchased a 2022 Ford Expedition Limited Max direct from the factory for around ~70k and though the Navigator has a lot of pretty trim features and a bit more horsepower, I would choose the Expedition over the Navigator. I personally can not see spending 20-40k more just for a prettier trim and this is coming from someone who can afford either one. I am very happy with my Ford Expedition, its style, performance, and comfort are worth it. If you can buy a Navigator it's only because you can.....not because it's a better vehicle.
Define “better” vehicle. An Expedition in fleet trim with vinyl seats and a rubber floor and an AM/FM radio is just as good a “vehicle” as your Expedition or a Navigator. But it’s not as nice a vehicle. And in this regard, even the top trim Expedition is not as nice a vehicle as a Navigator. Plus I feel the Navigator is a much better looking vehicle both inside and out.
I would not call getting a Ford at $90k a value by any means. The people that can afford either of these vehicles is going to pick the Navigator more often than not. Its expensive but at least you get what you pay for.
If you actually understand car manufacturing and engineering optimization you will find that the Navigator is the value/budget option for it's price point and the Expedition, as you see me coming is the average priced "luxury" option. With it's sub-par materials, the Expedition will end up costing you roughly $12,000-18,000 dollars more than it's rsvpwithin it's first 127,000 km.. those are just simple unrebukabke facts. You can easily Google these stats..
I have a 2021 Navigator Reserve and yes a Limited or Platinum expedition is a wonderful truck but when you drive a truck daily the difference in the seats over a long commute not a quick drive is unbelievable I get out my Navigator with zero fatigue after a 56 one way commute 6 days a week. The Revel sound system is way better then the B&O and I can’t lie it feels good when me and my wife go out and the truck is always valet right up front bc the status of the navigator. Also love the maintenance the dealership experience between the ford and Lincoln dealer is different it all adds up to the luxury feeling.
For me, it would be a regular, black Expedition Limited with the Stealth Performance package and the second row bench. While all black does not work for everything, but on something this large, all black keeps things looking clean and simple. In my opinion, the second row bench offers a bit more flexibility, and I would run with the third row folded offering more than plenty of cargo room, with the third row being completely bonus accommodation when I absolutely need it. Sure, the max/L version would offer the same thing with even more cargo room if ran with the third row folded, but the exterior proportions just seem awkwardly packaged. While this was not part of this video, but this also goes for the respective Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac offerings in this class.
I agree with you on the second row I don’t understand what this obsession with captains chairs with some obnoxious Console in the second row or cupholders in the floor like everyone else, etc. the second row with the seats is the way to go. The middle seat will always fold down to reveal cupholders, and the comfort level compared to the captain seats is basically the same thing again I don’t understand the obsession with manufacturers forcing you to get captains chairs in the top trim level.
It's crazy the touchscreen in the Expedition is bigger than the Navigator. I actually like the 12" touchscreen in the lesser Expeditions than that 15".
I'm with you. The 15" screen may offer a cleaner aesthetic that many like, but having redundant, analog, hard buttons actually engages you more. It may look more "cluttered", but I like having assured, tactile feedback when making certain commands.
Honestly I just ordered a 2024 platinum expedition because the interior is nicer and I get the Carmelo seats and the B&O unleashed which sound way better. Also, it’s only about 5k more than a fully loaded limited non stealth performance. If you go limited stealth performance it cost more than the platinum. Also platinum has blue cruise
Expedition has slightly higher towing limits, mostly because the extra weight of luxury tech on the navigator. Safety wise, that pushes me towards the Expedition. However, Ford only offers the landscape screen on the Navigator...Expedition gets the machE tablet which I'm not a fan of.
People always try to downplay the navigator bc it shares a platform in theory with the Expedition. I have never seen you ask why get Escalade over a Denali or even Denali to Tahoe.
The Limited would be the perfect choice if you could option BlueCruise independently. On a side note, the 12" screen on the Expedition is much better. Great size and the perfect ability to use buttons for simple, quick tasks.
Thank you for the comparison Ben. Is it cold enough for you? I feel for you. Both vehicles are quite nice actually. They both have nice looks as well. I would take the Lincoln, but Ford is still doing what it has done for years. There needs to be more differences between Fords and Lincolns. There was a reason Mercury existed. These two are not different than the way it was in the 1970's when you had the Ford Thunderbird and the Lincoln Mark IV. It is the same thing again with suv's. Thank you again Ben.
I absolutely love my 2020 Aviator Black Label miss the height of my old Expedition. Love the massage seats! Need them whichever one I choose, im torn between the 2
Both cars are great! And the prices are excellent! But I’d take the navigator 🎉 What I really find interesting, is that a plastic and ugly BMW X7 has an MSRP of 111k, the GLS is even more expensive! But the Lincoln and ford are miles better ❤
I’m interested in the ride. Does the Lincoln ride any better than the ford?? Our ford has a stiff ride. Much like a truck does the Lincoln have a softer ride ??