Nice video :) I would like to ask you for some advice: I am 180 cm tall and my weight is at 64 kg and I tend to ride 20% on groomers, 40% trees and 40% deeper snow and off piste. Which length do you think is best for me? The 166 or the 175? Thanks a lot for your help! :)
Thanks for another great review. Looking for a bump and tree friendly ski for east coast, but still like to carve groomers moderately aggressively. Demoed a blaze 86 and really liked the light weight in contrast to my current enforcer 94. Was considering Volkl blaze 94. How does the bent 90 compare to the blaze for this purpose. I’m not in the park or touring. Am I barking up the wrong tree with these 2 skis? Thanks!
The Bent 90 feels more flexible than the Blaze, but both are very light. The shape differs, too, with the Bent having more rocker, especially in the tails, and this makes for a more playful ski overall. For bumps and trees, I think the Bent 90 is one of the best out there, and if you can get anything else out of it on-trail, then that's a bonus. I think you're in the right zone, and I'd say the Bent might be a better choice overall for most days.
@@SkiEssentialsGreat. Thank you! Advice on sizing? 6’0” 175 advanced skier. Current enforcers in 179 feel right for what their purpose. Go shorter for bumps/trees or longer due to rocker?
Hi I just picked up a pair of these trying to figure out my mounting point normally an all mountain ski but looking to get into some park. Love this review
Prob do 1-2.5cm from true middle. If your more park focused do maybe 1 cm back, if your all mountain focused maybe 2-2.5 back. Reasoning is if your not doing only park, mounting a ski at true center is gonna be way less fun at speed and all mountain uses like carving and turning way less fun and controllable.
Hi, I'm looking for an atomic bent chetler 90. But I'm not sure what size to get, I'm 176 cm tall. I always rented skis and I always had skis shorter than me. should I buy 166 cm or would the 175 cm suit me better? I love everything....park, powder, grooming, short turns , carving , fast , chilling,...
Hi Jeff and Bob. Any ski advice for a 51yo advanced/expert(?), who skis quite a lot like Bob, looking to upgrade from a pair of 2005(!) skis. Would a Bent 90 be a good one-ski quiver killer for my next 19 years? I have watched hours upon hours of your videos in the past twelve months. They're on a completely different level than anything else I have come across, and I like to think that being from the East your opinions are probably a lot more relevant to the conditions we have in Australia than many other reviewers'. By Australian standards I skied a lot as a kid (~20 days a year). It was what our family loved to do together. This was back in the days of straight skis, and we loved moguls. But after my dad died 26 years ago when I was 25, I had to start paying for my own ski trips, and I would be lucky to have averaged one day a year since then. But the muscle memory seems to have held me in good stead, and in a moderately sized mogul field like the ones often featuring in your videos I really look quite a lot like Bob - feet jammed together, smooth with lots of quick turns ('smearing' - an expression I had never heard before). I'm going to Japan for the first time in a couple of weeks with my two younger brothers to relive our glory days. And it's got me thinking it might just be time to upgrade from my Elan M555 (168cm, 108-70-98, titanium) which I bought in 2005 after demoing them and a couple of other skis at a free demo day. From your reviews I'm guessing a 175cm Bent 90 might be just the ski for me (5'9" and 180lbs). And whilst I have barely watched any of your front-side reviews, I'm also wondering how much my current skis might be like a relatively modern front-side ski, given their dimensions and construction…) I haven't paid much attention to 'fat' skis in the past 15 years, thinking that given Australia barely gets powder that they just weren't relevant to us. But having watched many of your videos I can see parallels between skiing in the East and what we get in Australia, and I'm wondering whether a Bent 90 might be my one-ski quiver killer for the next 19 years! I only ski groomed stuff to get between the (inbounds) ungroomed stuff, and to rest my legs a bit. The rest of the time I'm hunting for bumps and the more interesting stuff to the sides of the main runs. Any thoughts?
Thanks! The Bent 90 is a ton of fun, but there's not a whole lot of business to it, so if you encounter a firm groomer and want to lay down some clean carves, it has some hesitation there. Turning is easy, but carving is a bit different of a story. If you like this shape and want something that holds up a bit better to carved turns on firm snow and crud/chop performance, I really like the Black Crows Captis in the twin tip realm and then something like the Dynastar M-Pro 90 for more of an all-mountain ski.
Recommendation for the size? I am 164.5 60kgs. I have bent 100 at 164 and I just have this feeling it is a bit big in terms of size and width for me so I wanted to switch to bent 90 but I am not sure if 157 is too small for me and should still stick to 164. I want them for mainly trees/park/fresh snow but resort (50% trees/40% park/10% groomers), I don't care that much about groomers, also worth mentioning there isn't a lot of snow similar to east coast. I got a dedicated setup for freeride/big mountain with bent 110 so I'm looking for the bent 90 to be something more resort based as mentioned with trees/park. Thanks!
I'd stick to the 164. With the drop in surface area and mass, that should make it feel more in line with what you're looking to do without having to go shorter.
Hey@@SkiEssentials Thanks for reply, just went on your website to get them with the tyrolia bindings and realised the 90s come in 157 and 166 not 164. With that in mind should I still go for 166 or better of with 157?
I’m 6’2, ride groomers a lot and like to do park sometimes. I’m wanting to get into park a little more but want to find a ski that can handle both. Do you think these are a good choice and what size should I get. Also would these be alright in 6-10 inches of low?
They are very playful and light--better for park, bumps, and trees than groomers, but totally fine as long as you're not expecting carving to be a highlight. Fine in powder, but again, not a highlight. I'd go with the 184 here.
Would this ski be good for someone like me, an intermediate skier who can link parallel turns on green and blue terrain but struggle a bit with large bumps? I am 170 cm tall and I ski 60% groomers, 40% off piste powder (when bumps are small)?
Yup! Great bump ski and it does great on groomers as long as you're not looking for race-like performance. I'd say the 166 is a good size for you in this ski. Have fun!
Jeff not sure if you'll see this comment... I know you had this ski last year in the 184 as a park ski, but if you were gonna choose it as a tree + mogul ski, would you still go 184, or go 175. Reason I ask is I'm similar size to you, 5'10 and 155-160.
I'd probably go to the shorter length for trees and bumps. Normally if you're on the apprehensive side of a sizing question, that means the shorter size is likely the better option.
What should I get? I am 5’5 115lbs still growing. I’m hoping to get a ski that I can use for the next 2-3 years.I’m intermediate to advanced. I am thinking in getting either the bent 85, bent 90 or the Völkl revolt 95. I would use it as a all mountain ski, I don’t go to the park to often. Have any thoughts or recommendations?
I'd go with the Bent 90 out of those three--nice and light but really versatile. The Revolt and the 85 are on the heftier side, so I think you'd find more success and happiness on the 90.
Does anyone have comparasion between these Oblivions 94 and Bents 90 ? Im looking forward to buying ones for this season. I spent 70 %on piste having fun popping and 30% in the woods and park Thanks for advice and great video
Oblivion 94 feels like a more substantial ski. It's a bit thicker in the core profile, and that makes it feel sturdier, especially underfoot. In the tips and tails, both are pretty flexible, with the Oblivion having more of a traditional twin tip character. That said, the Bent 90 has more rocker and a smoother shape, so it operates better in the trees and bumps. I'd rather ski the Oblivion on-trail, but the Bent in bumps and trees. Park is kind of a wash depending on your preference.
i'm a snowboarder who recently went back to skis. i live at a resort and can go all days. I did ride alot of skis when i was a kid, but been on snowboard for past 25y. I got the handle on carving, im not the best skier but intermediate for sure. Looking to buy my first pair of skis. Prolly not gonna go in the park for a while, but my snowboarding is always doing sidehits in the slopes and just having fun. Love riding switch etc. I really cant decide on a par of skis. Been looking at the bent, elan skis - both playmaker and rips. We do get some powder, but then we talking 20-40cm before its get's all rode up. any suggestions? I want a pair of skis where I can have fun most of the time. If conditions is different I just rent a pair for that situation.
Great content! This video helped me a lot! Only have one question, im thinking of buying the 90 but don't know which size. I'm 1.70 meters, still growing and want to use it the next 2 years maybe? Wich size would you recomment? Thanks!
Thanks! They're pretty light and agile. If you're looking for any amount of stability, I think it's fine to size up on these skis to the 184. Have fun!
Hey, so I can’t decide between the 100 or the 90. I’m not really a park skier I’m more on the slopes and sometimes in the deep snow but I want to try out some new things like tricks and riding more in der deep snow. I’m 5’5 and I would take the 164 ones. Which one should I take ?
If you are legitimately in softer snow more often than not, I'd go with the 100, but if you are, in reality, on trails, bumps, and in non-fresh snow, the 90 offers more versatility. It's still a good soft snow performer due to the HRZN tech in the tips and tails as well as its lighter weight.
Hey guys! You sold me on the bent 90 at the beginning of the season. First year skiing after 15 years snowboarding and really enjoying the progression again. I am becoming fairly confident and starting to hit medium/larger sized jumps. My question is how much different the ski will feel if I have it mounted further forward. I’m currently at the factory line and feel like it’s a bit of a hinderance in the park and I’d like the feeling of being more central like how a snowboard feels. Mostly looking for more predictability in how the tips and tails feel. Thoughts on moving to a +4 on the mounting point?
The +4 leaves a lot of tail. For balance in park, this is a good thing. For releasing turns in powder, softer snow, and moguls, it's not so great. The symmetry is what you're after here for a freestyle perspective, but it does take a hit in the versatility department.
Hey Jeff, I'm 183cm and pretty athletic with my 92kg no chicken legs. Should I go with 184 for more front mounted for 50/50 park and casual grooming in european resort skiing to not bottom out or is shorter better? I'm thinking a -2cm from TC isch.
Hi, need your help with the binding. I'm considering these skis for all mountain fun toy. I'm totally new to tricks and jumps but want to have fun, explore some terrain just outside the slope but also do some occasional short touring. Alredy have proper touring gear, this is just for the freeride sort of fun. My plan is to go with Bent 90/175cm with Shift binding which seems like a good match for my Hawx boa boots. However, I'm not sure whether to go with DIN10 or 13. I'm 178cm/75kg, intermediate skier. As per all calculations my DIN should be 6.5...is there any reason I should fo with Shift13? Do I need more DIN for landing small jumps etc?
I think if you're in lower snow zones, the 90 makes more sense. www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-atomic-bent-90-skis-w-tyrolia-attack-14-gw-bindings?ski%2520size=157
The 90 has a lighter wood core and a softer flex profile. Even though it's a "higher end" ski, I don't think it carves particularly better than the denser 85.
Hi! I’m trying to figure out what ones to get from the bent 100 or the 90s I’m 183 cm and 83 kg I like to hit side jumps and trees, but also want to get off trails and more park
The 90 probably makes more sense more of the time unless you find yourself in softer snow a greater percentage of time. For on-trail, bumps, trees, and park, I think there's more upside to the 90's.
I was looking at the skis and really did like them compared to most other skis in this years line up, But then my buddy mentioned testing them earlier in the season and told me, once you get up to speed on the groomers the front of the skis just starts flapping and clapping due to how light and thin they are. Is that true? cause it discouraged me from buying a pair but i have no way to test it myself. In the videos it does seem when the guys go to mid speeds the front start flapping but its hard to tell how soft they really are.
Other than the stability at speed, I think you're pretty darn close! For this application, plus a bit more power, I'd take a look at the Black Crows Captis.
If you're okay with sliding a turn here and there, it's fine, but it's not quite as grippy as the 86C or 88Ti Maverick skis from Atomic for steep groomers.
I'm roughly 181cm tall and weigh 67kg at 17yo, and would say I'm an advanced skier. I want a solid, not too expensive ski that does well on the piste but also works well in powder/offpiste (ratio is about 65/35 onpiste/offpiste). Do you guys think they will suit me well for are there some other models/brands that match my profile better? Also, I don't really know how long the skis should be.
Great video! I’m super torn what lenght of theese i should go with. I’m 191 cm but only 70 kg. I’m a bit rusty so would say i’m intermediate and looking for the most playful ski you can get. I mostly ski in groomers but like to get out in the trees an hit side jumps.
I think it's okay to size up if you're in the middle since these skis are intrinsically light and maneuverable. If you're aggressive and somewhat in the middle of sizing, it's fine to go longer.
I’m debating on whether I should go for the 166 or 175. I’m 173 cm and around 200lbs kitted up. I’m strictly using this as a park ski, I want to learn how to do rails, jibs, butters and riding switch.
The Rustler has a higher performance ceiling due to the metal laminates keeping it damper and smoother at speed, but if I were using the skis as a soft snow, playful, tree ski and off-piste option, I do think the Bent 90 is a fantastic option that's more mobile and agile.
@@SkiEssentials last piece of advice I would be very grateful, I am 1.74m with 62/65kg, what length of bent 90 do you recommend 166 or 175 and which boots and ski bindings could I use, thank you very much I would be very grateful for your answer
@@CristianUrsu-d1i I'd go with the 166 in that ski and we pair it with a Marker Griffon and it works great. Boots are very personal and you do have to try them on prior to buying if you are not sure what will fit. www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-atomic-bent-90-skis-w-tyrolia-attack-14-gw-bindings?ski%2520size=157
Hi i need some advice, im 186 cm tall and i dont no what length ski to choose the 184 or the 175? I love taking bumps and off-piste but also love carving and ski on the tracks. Great video btw!
Yes but don't expect phenomenal carving performance. They're easy to ski but don't really have a high performance ceiling when it comes to on-piste edge grip and clean round turns.
@@kyyqu the 85 has a bit more heft to it because it uses a composite core rather than a light poplar one. This gives the 85 a bit sturdier of a feel and a slightly improved on-piste performance.
Hey great video! I’m torn between these and the black crows captis. I’m an intermediate/advanced skier that wants a good all mountain ski but is also good for learning some freestyle
If you value lighter weight and higher mobility, I'd lean to the Bent. For more of a sturdy feel, the Captis just has that extra heft that makes it more confidence-inspiring for most applications. But it's not as light or quick as Bent!
I bought the bent 100 from you guys last season and love them for everything except when it gets icy, which unfortunately may be frequently this season. Would you say the 90 has better edge grip than the 100 considering it's narrower? Would it make sense to have a pair of 90s for low snow days and keep the 100s as a western daily driver? Thanks for all you do!
In general, yes. The 90 has more torsional stiffness because it's narrower so it will grip better on ice. keep the edges sharp, too--I've noticed my 100's work WAY better in a carved turn after a tune.
