I grew up on a sod farm, mowing grass since I was 7-8yrs old. (61 now) I just don't understand why these companies install a DARK COLORED SEAT!!? I've lived in the Memphis area and a 'ride on' seat only last a couple years, because of the sweat and heat breaks down the cheap vinyl.
I'm sure it makes a big difference in hotter climates but here in Ohio, I've never really noticed the big deal. My mower is stored in the garage and I don't get off the mower. I make the rounds of the yard with a bucket and a reacher tool to get all the little branches and such
I wanted to buy the Rambler last year but the engine is what made me buy my Cub Cadet. As soon as they make a Kawasaki V- twin an option or better yet standard I will buy one! I'm sorry but a single piston Briggs, no thanks.
The thing I find interesting among all vendors is, as you go up the line, the mowers get taller making it very difficult to get under trees. I have an old Scag Tiger Cub. It is commerical grade but I can get under trees in my yard (after removing the rollover bar years ago). I am just a residential user, but would like commercial quality, but I very much dislike the height of most high-end mowers. I would think this would be a complaint for commercial business users also. I would love to see a good commercial zero turn at the height of the residential models, not to mention that lower center of gravity is also safer on slopes.
You’re not wrong about trees and hight . I have two completely different machines. I have a Scag liberty z with a 48 in deck ( scags homeowner model) and I also have a JD 1025r with a 60 inch belly mower. Obviously the scag is better around the house but the JD is nice in my field except for it’s hight . With the scag I can go under the trees no problem but the JD is significantly taller especially with the ROPS up . I’ve mowed the whole property with both machines. We do much more than mow with the 1025r but it’s still handy to do so . Pros and cons to both machines. The scag has all the benefits of a zero turn but the JDs diesel engine definitely has more power to cut thick overgrowth. Hard to say which one is more efficient on fuel
I have a 2017 outlaw xp with the Kawasaki fx850 carburetorted. Never had a problem. Best mower I’ve ever owned. I purchased a 2023 rebel with the Kawasaki fx781v EVO. I love it also. Bad boy has never done me wrong. Great mowers…..
Love my 2017 Bad Boy 54" Deck Maverick and would definitely recommend them!! Comfortable, fast, heavily built, strong, pretty reliable. However, IMHO, Bad Boy screwed the pouch using the EZT2200 transmissions (as most other zero turn manufacturers also use) on the "base" mowers. Steer clear of these POS. They will fail if used hard, I mow 2 acres. Those transmissions are considered non-serviceable throw-aways. Replacements from Bad Boy are @$782 each or more plus shipping and taxes. Then there's downtime, labor to remove/install, fluid and setup. There is no "real" transmission filter - they have a internal screen that filters larger chunks, not small wear particles. They have a magnet inside to collect any magnetic particles. However, the wear points are internal between the iron hydraulic pumps/motors and aluminum hydraulic manifolds. Aluminum is a much softer metal and will wear first. The internal so-called filter doesn't catch those wear particles, and being non-magnetic, the internal magnet is useless. There is no fluid drain port so you can't change the hydraulic fluid without removing the transmissions, removing the fill plug, inverting transmission upside down and letting it drain for a few hours. Even then you can't drain all the fluid. So, can't drain fluid, can't change filter, have no easy way to monitor your trans fluid level.
No riding mower is worth the kind of money these companies are asking. These are as bad if not worse than Farm tractor prices. If you want to do business you gotta spend money to make money and NOT pass everything on to the consumer. Wages are way behind inflation!
I have a ferris is3100 with 2500 hrs big block briggs it's been absolutely flawless but that top of the line badboy looks really well made for the money well done badboy
This was exactly the video ive been looking for. Great comparison and explanation of the different models. I really like the Maverick HD and the rebel X
You need to start a local lawn cutting service now ,get your money as you go , put sign on supper market board ,post office board, cutting, weed whacking , blow off , get money , repeat , then you up grade equipment as you go 😂
I wish so bad that Bad Boy Company would have a maximum deck height beyond 4.5 inches. Many people including myself likes to have grass cut at 5 1/2 inches especially in summer heat to keep the fescue healthy & green all year , but 4.5 inches is the highest the Bad Boy than 4.5 inches is the Scag with Mowers will cut. Really hate that. The only mower I know that can cut beyond 4.5 inches is the Scag Mower to 6 inches. If you got good tall fescue, and happen to be wet and you cut it at height of 3.5 to 4.0 inches, you lawn is totally destroyed. Again, I wish so bad that Bad Boy Mowers would at least have maximum deck height to 5 1/2 inches !!!!
Thank you for doing this video. I live in NC. So buying from you wasn't an option for me. But, I took your advice and reached for the 60" ZT Elite. I am thrilled with!!! Thanks again.
Bad Boy is a better mower than people give it credit for, I have run mine for my home use for 8 years. replaced 1 starter and deck height adjustment switch. With that being said they need to make some changes to compete with some of the other brands for light commercial use. What we need is wider tires, a manual foot actuated deck height adjustment to raise on the fly, all larger decks should be a floating deck hanging from chains with Anti scalp wheels all around. If they would learn what the industry needs they could boost sales greatly. I am in the market for a stand on right now for smaller yards and hills, I have been looking at the revolt, but it just does meet the requirements to make that mower useable on hills and wet conditions. Skinny small tires are a no sale for me.
I cut about 5-7 acres on average. Several steep hills and some rough ground (former crop field). I’m really interested in the Rouge. I’d like to get the 72” Deck , but have been concerned about scalping! Thoughts ?
My friend bought a bad boy last spring, he has been able to use it 3 times, well 2.5. It's been in the shop besides those 3 times. Electrical, transmission and wheel drives.
Great Video and makes it easy to compare Bad Boys. Poor Rocky :P , Speaking of rocky; What is your recommendations for a mountain home, with about 2 acres of grass and hidden boulders that mower blades seem to find?
But the real question is..how is Bad Boy's customer service and warranty? From what ive been reading, its not very good. Id like the Rogue from my farm..but this concerns me. Great job on the video !!
Decided to jump in the Zero Turn market and overloaded on YT video reviews. I have 5 flat acres. My local tractor supply had an ZT Elite. Found a BB dealer within 2 hrs and purchased from them got better financing 0/4 yrs. Getting ready for my first cut.
How was the first cut? My dad has a gravely that doesn't mow that great, it leaves grass standing behind. I was apprehensive about getting a zero turn, but I've been researching bad boy for a while.
Hey man. How does the bad boys do with scalping since it is not on chains like other brands. My dad and I want to give them a try since we have always owned exmark but lately we have been looking into bad boys. Thank you and lord bless you.
When I bought my property a couple years ago, it was fall and the only zero turn available to me was a Cub Cadet Ultima ZT2-60. It's actually been a good mower for me so far but I only have about 250 hours on it I've been considering either the Maverick or the Rogue when I finally decide to upgrade. Just want to get plenty of use out of the Cub Cadet before I take that depreciation hit. I definitely don't need two
The Bad Boy website shows the prices to be $500-$1000 higher than the prices you listed here.. 3:21 MZ Magnum w/ Kohler 54" = $4,619 vs your $4199 4:24 ZT Avenger w/ Kawasaki 60" = $5,719 vs your $5199 5:38 ZT Elite w/ B&S 60" = $6,489 vs your $5899 8:19 Maverick w/ Kohler 60" = $7,549 vs your $6869 10:13 Maverick HD w/ Kawasaki 60" = $9,279 vs your $8429
I just bought a zt elite 54 inch and cutting rather tall mildly thick grass it handled it fine cutting with 1/2 the deck width cutting the same area with a johndeere 990 36hp tractor and 6 foot bush hog brand cutter I could only use 2/3 of the cutter but also cutting higher up so over all im very happy with the zt elite
I always liked the bad boy mowers and bought a new lightning in 2008 that has been a great mower for me as a back up for years, I do commercial mowing and use a scag turf tigers, exmark or hustlers for cut quality , I bought a brand new rogue in 2022 to run but after just a few weeks didnt like it at all, the deck was way to heavy and combersome, it scalped really bad and i quickly traded it and went with another scag and just wasnt pleased with the cut quality ,scalping and how heavy and combersome it was, I wouldnt buy one for commercial mowing but maybe for home owner mowing it may be ok, If it was me buying even as a home owner , hustler is hard to beat with the 5 year warranty.
Me, watching with a 4 year old hustler raptor sd, with nearly 600h on it, knowing that the zt2800 hydros on it used to be considered commercial, that they have a remote reservoir and filters and can be fully serviced, that my Kawasaki fr651v didn't come with a canister filter but I added one myself...along with a diy foot operated chute lift and even a front mount cooling fan for added comfort. I'd be tempted by the maverick HD because it comes with a 42" deck option, but there are no maverick dealers anywhere near me.
I’m Also looking for a reliable and durable zero turn mower with Kawasaki mower. I think bad boy can be a good choice. I have got 0.5 acre land and I wanna used it for the same ! It for a commercial use. What would you suggest me. I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks I’m from Ohio cincinnati thanks
Kawasaki is the only engine I will run.!!! BAD BOY has the opportunity to compete in the commercial market but the focus too much on looks a deck steel while overlooking what we need to get a quality cut. Speed is useless without cut quality it is a mower not a drag car!! They are missing what is needed!!
Same in VA. Obv if you can find a dealer in your area, they have multiple engine and deck configs on the lot plus they have multiple financing options compared to TS.
Ya, I'm in AZ and we have hardly any choices here. The only Bad Boy here is at Tractor Supply and its just the Magnum with Kohler and ZT2200's. Only one shop in the whole valley has a couple Hustlers and the salesman/service is horrible. The guy in the video is wrong though. ZT 2800's are serviceable.
How’s the Briggs single engine overall for 1-2 acre yard any major issues? I see a time cutter has a twin engine curious if it’s worth it for around the same price. Thank you
In 2020 I purchased a Husqvarna with a 2700 transmission and Vanguard 824 cc engine MZ-61($4800 out the door). The Bad Boy was offering small transmissions and lower end transmissions for much more money. I see the Bad Boys low end still offer the low end engines. Not for me. I do really like the Rogue model even though it is quite expensive for my needs. Those engines and transmissions look great.
Wow...times have changed. I bought a JD Z960M with suspension seat back in 2016 for around $9,700 with the discount (sticker was around $12k) but now when I check the prices, a 960M is running around $16k. Yikes
Why are all of the pulleys and belts on the bottom one stick gets in there and going to have problems I wouldn't waste my money they look cheap and have to have coolnames to sell
My parents have about a 25 degree front yard. About 1 acre. Wonder if the rambler would hold up to that. We've been doing it with a cheap old cub cadet riding mower and it's scary haha
@@Chef-James I replaced a John deer with this one and can attest, the Bad Boy is a beast of a machine. I opted for the Kohler 725cc (25hp) KT740. My buddy who works on small engines said he's seen a few issues with the Kawa's and said the Kohler was the way to go in this one (his opinion of course)..I can't imagine needing more power. This thing zips across my place like no one's business..built like a tank.
How long did it take you to get to the rogue level? I'm only on the rambler level right now and probably about to level up to the Magnum... can't wait to get to the commercial level one day! Also, am I able to skip levels if I put enough hours on the mower or do I have to go through each one? It's a lot of money and a lot of space to store all my previous level mowers.
Thanks for the informative video! Do you know if there's any chance they're going to offer the rear discharge on the Rogue with one of the fuel injected engines? Seems like it's something that everyone would like
Had to look up your webpage as much time as you spent covering all this equipment lucky you are pretty easy to find on the net . I would put my info in the video on how to get In touch with my company if I was doing as much work as you did on the video ! I thought you were in Howe Tx …Close to me . Not quite ready but definitely considering the Bad Boy line up Thank you for all the info .
Toro and Bad Boy are the two that I am looking at. Would love your opinion on best bang for your buck. Residential 3-4 acres. Flat, but some bumps. Looking at 5-6k area.
@@TNsher776 even the toro 7500 with the 96" deck uses a 16. Are you saying all those companies (and I could easily add more) all have an inferior pump that should have been bigger? I mean seriously these are units that are used for commercial use and seem to be doing just fine.
My local BB dealer told me it was only gonna knock off $200 or $300 on a 42-in Revolt SD. I was going to walk away with it but something just didn't seem right. Got approved for 0% financing for 48 months and I was putting $1,000 cash down.
Appealing to immature 30something suburbanites by giving equipment an immature brand name strikes me as focusing on the wrong things. I bought a John Deere Z950M instead.
So I bought a bad boy magnum over the weekend. I have around 3 acres to mow,it's pretty much a field. 1st cut of the year, too, with plenty of rain. It did really good for the first cut. It was tall grass, and it blew right through it. 3/16 deck with 1/4 inch gussets for support on this model where most are 10 or 7 gauge. The deck didn't move at all compared to say the cub cadet that has around 3 in of play. There's nothing like your deck slapping around when hitting a hole. Solid welds all the way around. May not be commercial but acts like it. The only issue and it's not that big for now is the seat. Could be more cushioned or a spring like the toro timecutter. Built like a tank and made in the USA. I'm more than happy with it and we'll see as the season goes of any issues
That's good to hear, my dad has a gravely that doesn't cut grass very well that's over 7 in tall. I was apprehensive about buying any zero-turn without doing research, and I've been looking at bad boy for a while now. Sometimes my field gets overgrown and I'll be cutting grass well over the hood of my conventional riding mower right now, and it does fine. Just wanted to see how the bad boys are?
@Blindy91 yes. Probably getting springs and set up, then attached to the existing seat. The whole seat with springs, etc. are expensive. I'm still looking around, though
@MrFordguy73 After a couple cuts it's still does very good. One thing I did notice is the choke cable and the throttle cable are very close to the exhaust in the back that over time that plastic coat will cause the cable to melt and gunk up probably stopping the cable from moving altogether. I'll remove that coating up a few inches, hopefully avoiding it. Besides that. Good to go. Still have to know your holes, though. Lol
I'm looking at buying either a magnum or avenger but not sure which I'll get but if the tracs seat suspension kit fits on it I may try it for $180 on amazon
A mower without a floating deck is useless in my opinion. Bring the chains back. The electric deck height adjustment is also useless unless your blowing off concrete.
I recently purchased a brand new Maverick FS730 motor with a 54-inch deck. However, I've encountered a persistent issue: there's a constant stripe between the center blade and the blade on the non-chute side. Despite my efforts to resolve this by replacing the blades, checking the spindles, ensuring the deck is level, installing the new blades correctly, inflating the tires to the recommended pressure, and putting on a new belt, the problem persists after 200 hours of use. The mower has been to the local repair shop twice in the past month, each time for a week, but they couldn't identify the issue. I mow at the tallest setting on dry, moderately long grass. I've done everything short of replacing the spindles, which appear to be tight and in good condition. I'm starting to believe this mower is cursed. If you doubt my experience, try calling Bad Boy Mowers directly and ask for technical support. The only guy handling support is clueless. Is this the kind of service you expect after spending thousands on a mower? I'm referring to the manufacturer, Bad Boy Mowers, not just a dealer or parts distributor. I feel like I need to clean it up and sell it to someone else, just as I was duped into buying it. Honestly, they should drop the "Boy" from their name-it would be more fitting.
Have you checked the clearance on the blades to see if you can put a slightly longer blade on it? Maybe there's just no blade reaching that small strip of cutting area
