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2024 Beta 450RX vs 2024.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition 

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2024 Beta 450RX vs 2024.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition back to back! How does Beta's first 450F motocross model compare the established KTM 450 Factory Edition? Does the updated frame on the KTM 24.5 450FE feel more compliant? Does the Beta really bring Rideability to 450F moto bikes? Let's ride them and find out!
2024 Beta 450RX: 2:00.6 laptime
The engine has a smooth linear response to throttle inputs and builds RPMs quickly with a light flywheel feel. The power feels smooth overall and builds fairly quickly in the low to mid RPM range and flattens out at higher RPM's. This is a very rider friendly 450F engine. The clutch pull effort is light and there was no sense of stalling or flame out when running the engine at low RPM. The muffler is fairly quiet. There are (2) maps on the selector switch: Sun (full power) and Rain (softer power) and Traction control can be engaged in either map which effective makes (4) maps to choose from. Rain map with TC engaged really dialed back the engine response and power feel (350 like) and might be a great option for trail riding. The KYB suspension felt firm and stiff and not just new bike stiff. This is a moto setting. I opened the clickers for a little more comfort for the old school GP style track I was riding. Of course the usual hard Beta seat contributes to an overall firm feel to the bike. Ergo's felt good overall though taller riders may notice the fairly low handlebars. Beta glue on grips offer a little more cushion than ODI bolt on style. I did notice engine vibration at the handlebars.
2024.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition: 1:59.2
Has a 60hp 450F ever been so easy to ride? Such smooth and long pulling power that makes this bike so fun to ride! I was hoping to feel more compliance and a plusher ride with the updated chassis but like all brand new KTM450SXF"s this bike feels stiff and harsh for the first few hours. I have about 4 hours ride time so far and the chassis and suspension are breaking in and feeling better much more quickly than my 23.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition. I used the new Connectivity Unit Offroad (CUO) to make a "350" map to dial back the power and response a little. I use the Gravel Wet power curve (least power) along with minimum throttle response, minimum engine braking, and maximum Traction Control and send it into Map 1 position (white map). I could notice a less engine braking when closing the throttle at high ending RPM in 2nd and 3rd gears. Makes the 450 feel a little more playful in the tight woods too. Not a huge difference but noticeable.
This 23/24/24.5 KTM chassis is a great balance of cornering and stability at speed.
Here is my first ride impression on the 2024 Beta 450RX.... • 2024 Beta 450RX First ...
Here is my first ride impression on the 2024.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition.... • 2024.5 KTM 450 Factory...

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Комментарии : 17   
@ryanmccullough9478
@ryanmccullough9478 2 месяца назад
Your voice is that of a father you do not want to disappoint.
@johndepperschmidt8984
@johndepperschmidt8984 4 месяца назад
Great comparison. Both bikes are still fresh and with time and learning setup and tires they should both get better. The ability to fine tune the KTM has made a difference. Rebate on the FE's? No real comments about the air forks, sounds like they may have it dialed.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
The CUO unit on the KTM can change the power character noticeably (smooth the throttle response) and make the bike "feel" lighter in motion (dialing back engine braking). The latest AER forks work well though I still prefer the feel of spring forks so a set of WP CV spring forks that I have had on (4) pervious KTM 450's will soon go onto my 24.5 450FE. There are no rebates on the 24.5 KTM 450FE that I am aware of though the base 2024 450SXF has $2000 rebate to the dealer so that bike can be purchased at discounted price now.
@bcoffroadriding7001
@bcoffroadriding7001 4 месяца назад
Great review!! Not sure on the price difference, guessing may be able to get the Beta for less, there is also a cool factor to riding something different than everyone else! If we had a local Beta dealer I would try one for sure. The KTM tuning app would be fun to test with though.....
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
The Beta maps (Sun and Rain) are noticeably different...the Rain map (with TC engaged) really dials back the power and response.
@Moto619films
@Moto619films 4 месяца назад
As you know give it 10 12 hours and that bike will feel amazing I have 20 hours on my 350 Factory Edition and it feels better each time I get on it
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
Yep the stiffer chassis from 23 model year feels pretty firm. I can notice a little better tire contact patch feel with the updated more compliant 24.5 FE chassis. Will probably get a 25 350 Factory Edition when they come out later this year.
@davidgrunklee8407
@davidgrunklee8407 4 месяца назад
Which one feels lighter? How about perceived vibration differences?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
Weight feeling in motion is similar. Beta vibrates more at the handlebars and even feel vibration through the seat when sitting still and revving the engine.
@TimComer
@TimComer Месяц назад
Which did you like more? Your Ktm or the beta 450?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Месяц назад
I think they are both very good bikes. The KTM requires some suspension tweaking and so does the Beta. The KTM offers a phone app to tune the engine character which I use more than expected (turning the engine power down and minimizing engine braking). I think the Beta will offer similar tuning features soon and hopefully come with a better overall suspension setting out of the box for 2025 (which they already announced). I bought the KTM so that says something!
@ClarkStar866
@ClarkStar866 4 месяца назад
did you get rid of the yz450?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
Yes sold last fall. One of my last rides on that bike... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V2djxrRcMo0.html
@johnbarnhart7174
@johnbarnhart7174 4 месяца назад
What air pressure do you like in your MX34s ?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
I run 14~15 psi - wish I could go lower but then I get pinch flats
@johnbarnhart7174
@johnbarnhart7174 4 месяца назад
I agree with 14-15 psi but for different reason. Below 14 psi, MX34s feel squirmy and unpredictable. MX33s seemed best about 1 psi less.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 4 месяца назад
@@johnbarnhart7174 Yea I think the MX33 is a stiffer feeling carcass so a little less pressure is good. The MX34 seems a little more compliant
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