Long Trips/commutes around 10-20 miles on highway Diesel, Short trips/City driving Gas. Diesels emissions systems don't last long doing short trips you'll kill it.
We always had a Suburban growing up! My parents had 4 kids and we lived out in the sticks, needing the 4WD. My mom refused to have anything Ford/Lincoln because she said they ride too rough. Our last Suburban we had was a 2000 and my mom had it for 17 years, 230k miles, and she cried when she sold it to downsize since we were all out of the house. We had so many memories with that Suburban.
I remember growing up 40 years ago and The Suburban WAS the only SUV that existed. It was a big truck on frame. Loud diesels, column shift, and all the refinement of a tractor trailer. That truck is quick for a rolling city block. You can manipulate HP numbers with different formulas. But torque is a mathematical certainty. Diesels have ALL the torque down low for grunt and go. That Suburban is so refined! Such a great road trip machine for the entire children's soccer team.
Haha. We’re probably the same age and I remember riding in one as a kid and it was so loud and uncomfortable. I haven’t been in the latest gen, and after this video I want to check it out. Ideally a electric Tahoe would be perfect for me.
We love our diesel suburban, owned it 2 years and not a single issue. Being a 2022 model, it does not have supercruse. Use it on road trips and towing our boat to different lakes all over the state. Towing our yamaha AR195 boat (with a full 30 gallon gas tank on the boat), it averages 17-18mpg going about 75mph. I always tow in L9 which locks out the 10th gear overdrive and keeps the rpm's a few hundred higher (still well below 2k at highway speeds). L9 towing reduces shifting, reduces transmission temps, and cuts down on DEF usage. The oil pump belt isn't a big deal to me, probably something we will only have to do once during ownership. Plan on keeping it past 200k miles and probably drive it another 15 years.
Most of the time I think self-driving tech in cars are just dumb, like you should be engaged and paying attention while driving. But then I remember the level of NPC that most drivers are on the road, and I realize it's actually probably driving better than most of them.
Mercedes is the only Manufacturer It has autonomous driving where you can take your eyes off the road and onto the screen and play video games or surf the internet.
GM is seriously killing it with their current line up. 40 years ago, the Suburban was a truck with a roof, the 6.2 diesel sounded like a tractor and was about as fast, and the Range Rover was king. Screw Range Rover today, I'll take this any day of the week.
My 14' Grand Cherokee overland ecodiesel is amazing, took me two years to find one. Deleted and tuned it; 300hp and 600lbft of torque, religious maintenance, 30+ mpg on the highway at 70-75mph and 700+ miles of range. Being able to drive from northern Wisconsin to Nashville with extra fuel to spare before a fill up is what makes the diesel (tuned) amazing for the family vacations.
Nah, it sounds more like the Albany Cavalcade which is no doubt an I6 diesel while the Declasse Granger 3500LX is based on an HD Suburban with a V8 but yeah you got a point
Diesel cars should be more common in America, like they are in Europe. It’s how they can tow massive loads without needing an extremely impractical F250
Don’t even get me started. Americans will buy a $100,000 monster truck of a Ford F350 diesel or something, lift it and put huge offroad tires on it, just to haul their family around 😂 or even just to pull around a lawnmower and a couple of weedeaters for a landscaping company, something that could easily be pulled with a little gas truck or even an SUV. But they need that huge monster truck to match their ego, or to compensate for something else.
The US has much more stringent NOx emissions regulations making diesel engines more expensive to produce and maintain (extra emissions control equipment and less reliability), so normal/avg cars will never see diesel options. Then there's VW dieselgate which greatly soured diesels in US consumer minds. With how cheap gas/diesel is in the US, the MPG advantage diesels have is pretty much a moot point; diesel does get 25-35% better mileage, but costs 10-20% more, you would only be saving a few dollars per fill up.
The gas obsession in the U.S is odd. Even those massive full size RVs have gas engines it’s ridiculous. We need cars and vans with diesels here desperately
@@nchondakid Or hear me out it’s people hobby and passion to have nice cars and modify them how they like. What’s your hobby so I can make fun of and trash talk you?
Any 2.0l-3.0l diesels are ultimate cruisers. I have a rare bird 2015 BMW F02 740Ld that I take on road trips, 750-800 miles on a tank that rides on a cloud on highway is remarkable, and the torque it puts down off the line! I don't see any alternatives fuel that can rival both range and performance.
@@petemolnar6073 If you're short tripping absolutely no diesel IMO, my one way commute is 20-30 miles, and of the 30 miles its 25 miles on highway/5 miles on city driving. My DPF is original and I'm sitting at 137k miles, and 90% of my total miles are on highway and using correct spec oil BMW LL04, I did BMW EGR recall recently, and had an error code for NOX sensor but I took sensor out clean it up, put it back in no problem since. Having BMW ISTA/Diagnostic to measure dpf soot level and force regeneration with spirited driving, along with good quality oil and shorter oil change intervals (7500 miles oil change) helps maintain and extend dpf life.
I want to get a 1995-6 Passat diesel wagon manual from a shop in Seattle. With the manual diesel efficiency and a 25 gallon tank the shop said you can get 1200-1500 miles per tank.😮
@@J.Young808 they didnt had 25 gallon tank... no way, im quite sure was like 18 55ish mpg? yes but if you cruise at like 50, not at 75 i driver a modern 2.2 turbodiesel sedan with manual transmission and i get between 4.8 and 5.5 L/100km on real consumption (higher in summer due to AC) so between 49 and 43 mpg, btw that's on my overall yearly driving, not on hypermilling test and i had to drive around in the mountains as well
If you finally got your driver's license, i imagine it's not the matter of can you drive at that point, but just don't get too comfortable to where you're making stupid choices when doing so. 😂👍❤
These LM2s are something else, I managed to stretch one out to almost 700 miles on a single tank (Indiana to Rhode Island, all interstate). More people need to take light duty diesel seriously, getting almost double the econ you'd get with a gas engine for fuel that costs only a little extra, plus an engine that'll last 300k miles easily? Darn good deal
@@glutenfreejazz Eh it's not double fuel economy. On your trip a 5.3 probably would do 20+ and LM2 maybe 26? 28? That's nowhere near double and the difference in price from 87 to diesel is significant, eating up basically the entire advantage.
As a 16 year old who chauffeurs my mom around in her 2018 suburban, it is super nice to drive, the gear shifts are buttery and the torque and power feel even throughout the gears, the suspension is soft and buttery but not too soft, very sufficient power for spirited driving, the brakes seem perfectly fine tuned for everything, the speakers deliver some crazy bass, and even the body roll isn't too bad; dare I say its fun. As a person who daily drives a BMW Z3 I can say the Suburban feels much smaller than it actually is. If you're in the market 100% go for it.
Diesels are just suitable for big heavy cars. Modern turbo diesels are like the old big block V8s in terms of rev range and torque which just works in a large heavy car.
Completely agree with you. This is why here in the UK and Europe the majority of people have always opted for diesel SUV’s. Mostly 3 litre V6’s and i6’s but V8 diesels have had their time as well.
I've had 6 Suburbans over the years. I have a 2017 Premier now and love it. I can't wait to try the new gen and hopefully the diesel. It is just the perfect vehicle for my family and towing things! p.s. Awesome video!
The suv model line of the Chevrolet Suburban has been in production a very long time. If remember correctly Chevrolet first started to make the Chevrolet Carryall Suburban in the 1930s. Here we are about 90 years later and their is still the Chevrolet Suburban is still being made.
I think 15 years down the line these diesels will be super sought after and will have a diehard fan base, especially with the option that you could rebuild the engine
Chevy high country is a best kept secret. We have had BMW, Lincoln, Ford, and Porsche. None of them are as high tech, as comfortable or as reliable as our suburban which is absolutely nuts to say. Chevy has elevated their game to an insane extent! I absolutely love it.
I think starting in the 2023 model year, GM put their upgraded Duramax to replace the older versions. The older versions had 277 horsepower, 460 lb-ft torque. the upgraded version has 305 horsepower, 495 lb-ft torque. google LM2 vs LZ0. Hope this helps!
Hybrid diesel doesnt make as much sense because Diesels work really well on long constant runs. Short off and on trips are really bad for the emissions equipment that need a nice and hot engine to run correctly.
I drove a 6.2L V8 Suburban LT on Hawaii, this one looks nice. I always hear GM getting smeared for their quality and they have made some lousy cars in recent years but their fullsize trucks are still awesome.
The only reason i know chevy makes these is because my dad's new work vehicle is a diesel Suburban. He loves it because it has tons of room for all his gear and because he fills it on the company card. Very much not a truck he'd personally own though
I was getting fuel at a gas station when I spotted someone next to me with their gas cap open and I saw the DEF logo. I was shocked they made diesel suburbans
I like these diesel half tons, but future parts availability is my biggest concern. You can still get just about everything for the gassers and big diesels because of their popularity, but I have a feeling that it's going to be a challenge getting parts for diesel half tons in 15-30 years. However, I've seen probably just as many Duramax 1500s on the road as gassers since they came out and OEM and aftermarket support for GM products is usually pretty good, so it may not be too bad for these.
We love to see a hypermiling road trip! I’ve always wanted to do this with a 7MT 991 911 or C7 Corvette with cruise control at 70-80 staying in 6th one way and using 7th going back the same way. Curious how much of a highway fuel economy bump that extra tall 7th can yield.
I’ve always found Chevy to have a soft ride as it is… so I dunno if I’d want to shell out the extra money for a high country to get the air suspension. I’d have to imagine if you got it with the base wheel and tire package that the tires would have more tire to it and really keep the ride nice.
The 2025 RST, which is significantly cheaper than the high country will come with the magnetic ride and air suspension as an option with supercruise and the diesel, which is incredible
The 3.0 Duramax diesel has reasonable figures . 206Kw & 623Nm . Should get around the 10-12l/100km mark . So 800-900km out of a tank of diesel should be achievable.
Is it even close to the amount of room in a Suburban? We got a fairly well equipped suburban diesel 4x4 for 72k, we tow a small 1500lb cargo trailer with supplies on vacation and only stop once for fuel on 800 mile trip. (it gets about 21mpg towing vs. 27mpg not towing)
Diesel engines have more torque, fuel economy and produce less CO2 emissions (it produces more soot and nitrogen oxide though). Also they last more than gasoline engines This Suburban has around 280 hp, which might not sound much but the massive torque compensates enormously. As long as you don't take it to a race track it's an engine that will be enough for pretty much every situation
Fun fact: many years ago, Chevrolet made a hybrid Tahoe. Today's diesel Tahoe has better fuel economy than said hybrid, as does today's diesel Suburban despite being somewhat longer.
Well the issue with hybrids in heavy vehicles is that it does not help much on highway mileage, especially beyond 70 mph. The hybrid really shines in city driving. That being said, you’re still correct cuz the diesel ‘Burb likely gets better fuel economy in the city than that old hybrid Tahoe, if not, the same.
This Suburban is still great, but the updated 2025 model with the larger screen and redesigned front dashboard is definitely a step up from the current version.
Never understood why diesels werent more popular in america during the last 20-30 years if not more. Its been so popular in europe, and you thought a country like ´merica with its vast roads and known for its long commutes and roadtrips etc would try and get more diesel cars
A ford explorer ST (sport) is just that A SPORT vehicle and cannot be compared to a suburban. If you want apples to apples you have to compare a navigator to a suburban, and the ride quality is really not bad at all, as matter a fact as someone who drives these things for high profile clients for security details I'd say there both very good vehicles. The Lincoln has a much better interior and powertrain than the suburban for that matter. There both great cars either way.... so dont hate.
