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2024 Ford Ranger Raptor vs GMC Canyon AT4X: Which Is The Real Killer Off-Roader? 

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( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! As spring gives way to summer, we're finally able to do some awesome off-roading in the Colorado Rockies, with Andre and Nathan taking along what are arguably two of the best trucks for the task: the 2024 Ford Ranger Raptor and 2024 GMC Canyon AT4X AEV. But which one is BEST?
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@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 3 месяца назад
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@jgelliot
@jgelliot 3 месяца назад
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@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 месяца назад
I just got back from taking our 2 door bronco samsquanch to Colorado and did some of these passes. I’m from Alabama and man you guys have it made out there! These videos really don’t do these roads justice on how rocky, scary and beautiful these passes are. It was amazing and I was so sad when I saw the last mountain in my rear view mirror heading back east.
@pablomax9376
@pablomax9376 3 месяца назад
For my money, I would stick with the Ford, but man, that GMC looks fantastic.
@youngsoin9125
@youngsoin9125 3 месяца назад
Lol I’m actually the opposite. I would stick with the GMC. However, I also think a lot of the electronic aids are not needed. I’d rather save money on a lower trim level with the comfort options I want, then spend a few grand on some shocks and a long travel kit.
@TheZR2Kid
@TheZR2Kid 3 месяца назад
@@pablomax9376 You could get the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison for $60,000 Msrp!
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 3 месяца назад
@@youngsoin9125we think the same, except I’d go raptor because it’s got more suspension travel and no need to modify anything, where the Chevy has the least suspension travel in its class, imagine less travel than a Tacoma.. I’d love a raptor without electric nonsense
@youngsoin9125
@youngsoin9125 3 месяца назад
@@vincefairleigh6899 I wish GM would’ve used King’s or Fox’s instead of the multimatics. But I thought the Colorado and Canyon had about half and inch or so more travel in the front and 1 and a half in the rear. At least on the ZR2/AT4X
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 2 месяца назад
After looking at both, I hated the 4 cylinder and hate the plastic interior in the GMC. The gmc looks the best on the outside, but the interior and engine made me never want it. The 4 cylinder sound gave me high anxiety. The Raptor has an awesome engine. The interior is very premium and comfortable. They give you a lot more for your money. In comparison, you can tell GM cut costs big time.
@overlandv10
@overlandv10 3 месяца назад
I’m with you on spare in the bed of the GMC. I just recently bought a 24 AT4X. I would have bought the AEV version if it wasn’t for the spare in the bed. That was literally the only reason I went AT4X over the AEV. But I am so far super happy with the GMC. It’s a pleasure to drive and has enough power and capability for what I wanted it for. As far as why I didn’t go for the ranger, it just isn’t nearly as good looking of a truck as the GMC.
@AHungryHunky
@AHungryHunky 2 месяца назад
I actually like the spare in the bed. I used to keep the spare to my ZR2 S10 in the bed because the crank for the spare under the bed was seized up and fused together with rust. 31 inch spare took up the whole bed on that little truck and eventually found a, custom mount, in the cab behind the seats when I got tired of taking it out to haul things.
@chownzi2461
@chownzi2461 3 месяца назад
Andre drove right into the snow bank when he could've taken a different line and made it
@amalfi460
@amalfi460 3 месяца назад
He is a very cautious driver he didn’t want to roll off the cliff even though he had 12 feet of room left lol 🐥
@DougVandegrift
@DougVandegrift 3 месяца назад
I'm more of a rock crawler than high speed off roader. The Canyon would be my pick over the ranger, but I'd definitely need to relocate that spare tire...
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 3 месяца назад
Yep. Take a truck with a small bed, then eat up half of it with inefficiently located spare tire. Back in the day, it was common to mount the spare vertically in the pickup bed ahead of or behind of the wheel well. If it is mounted on the driver's side, it generally won't interfere with the driver's view out the back of the truck. Also, with the spare tire mounted that way, the tire can quickly be unbolted from the truck bed, and rolled off of the truck upright. The third common trick is to use the long bolt securing the spare tire to the truck to also secure a Handyman-type jack next to the spare truck tire (for old Colorado native guys like me, by the way, we always called a Handyman jack a "sheepherder's jack" because they were often carried on a sheepherder's wagon to jack the sheepherder's wagon up to put rocks under the wheels to level it).
@Norwisco
@Norwisco 3 месяца назад
That canyon at4 is a sweet lookn truck
@DavidFigs
@DavidFigs 3 месяца назад
I just did Lower Argentine pass and @ 24:43 is exactly where I damaged my RR wheel. You guys need to check the lower section, the water crossing is ridiculous!
@joshz7712
@joshz7712 3 месяца назад
When i get my Ranger Raptor, there's a kit you can get that replaces the factory side steps with the factory side steppes but they don't hang down an extra inch. Their almost flush with the truck. Helps a lot with breakover and less side steppes hitting. Im also going to do the pre runner kit (front and rear bumpers) to help with approach/departure angles as well as hopefully relocating the trailer componets. Id do this with any truck. My RR preference is based off of the 2019 Raptor i had and the 2nd gen RR literally being a smaller version of it with front lockers.
@husshardan3511
@husshardan3511 3 месяца назад
405hp. The BMW M5 had 400hp back in 2000! That was exotic stuff and did feel very fast! Now you get that in a Ford Ranger.
@rvboyett
@rvboyett 2 месяца назад
So really, the TFL guys went on a combination of Argentine Pass and McClellan Mountain. The toughest part of those trails are at the very beginning. This video shows that area at the end as they come down the trail, back to the paved road. The part where they were stuck in the snow is the final climb up McClellan Mountain. It's a narrow pass but very easy. Neither trail is super demanding. I've seen an unmodified Ford Edge, with good AT tires, make it to the top of McClellan. But there is an off shoot of of McClellan that has multiple water crossings and can get very challenging. My lifted Wrangler made short work of them but a mid sized truck is going to have challenges (though it can absolutely do it). For those that don't know, Argentine is near Georgetown, CO. There are some really good views up near the mine or the top of the mountain. It's also a good place to watch for Moose.
@ryanolson8295
@ryanolson8295 3 месяца назад
Just made this choice, add vented seats, proper skids, 35s, winch capability to the ranger and you have the perfect truck, since those were missing I went with the GMC. And in Canada the raptor is $2k more than the GMC so going aftermarket doesn't make as much sense. Tucked tailpipes like on the GM 1500s would have been nice.
@lego4virgo
@lego4virgo 3 месяца назад
I think these trucks are built for two different purposes. The Ranger Raptor is more of a 'fast, Baja-style' truck, whereas the GMC Canyon is happier crawling up rocky surfaces etc. Either way--the price of both is too much for me to justify.
@KNRS927
@KNRS927 3 месяца назад
I rememeber the days when the Ford F150 Raptor was in this price range and cost about 50-60k. Good old times.
@casper24ism
@casper24ism 3 месяца назад
Or you don't make enough to enjoy life.thars a possibility
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 3 месяца назад
True that. And you can only Baja in certain parts of the country, so the GMC was the smarter manufacturer's choice. Of course, so many of these will never hit roads as tough as this video so it doesn't really matter.
@lego4virgo
@lego4virgo 3 месяца назад
@@casper24ism Oh, I make enough--I just can't justify it in my head to pay a large payment on a depreciating asset. I'm sure you're okay with your 2.7L Ford Bronco-or is a 2.3L?, but I'll stick with my '20 Escape for now.
@lego4virgo
@lego4virgo 3 месяца назад
@@Dusdaddy Probably a small lift, and the Raptor would be fine crawling the rocks like the Canyon.
@craigquann
@craigquann Месяц назад
Start showing the Nissan Pro-4X more love. I know it's last years model, but it's solid, good looking and cheaper than the competition.
@davidd8892
@davidd8892 Месяц назад
I grew up in colorado and you have no idea how many times we got stuck in snow and or snow banks, they look small, you try and drive thru it and they get frozen and soon as the weight is on it you break thru down to the axels, one time we had a 78 ranger tied to a 83 bronco to pull out a 96 1500... it took forever and was intense but 3 of us teenagers got it out in about 2 hours, best time ever was to be had growing up in the mountains
@youngblood23rb
@youngblood23rb 3 месяца назад
Dynamic Duo! Well done
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 3 месяца назад
My RR as of yesterday is now in transit. It's been in production since March!
@scottdetter
@scottdetter 3 месяца назад
Not too bad. I ordered my 2024 Raptor R in April, ETA is April 2025!
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 3 месяца назад
​@@scottdetter It was ordered last year. But yeah, this is ridiculous.
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 2 месяца назад
@@scottdetter Update. I've had it for 4 days now. I love it. Although I am still in the break in process and I'm being really easy on it.
@scottdetter
@scottdetter 2 месяца назад
@@JohnSmith-zi9or that’s cool. How many miles on the odometer?
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 2 месяца назад
​@@scottdetter 290
@Tiovergudo
@Tiovergudo 3 месяца назад
Compare the ranger to the base zr2. Better value
@Deadset.zr2
@Deadset.zr2 3 месяца назад
Yea the midsize market is silly all the creators are just jumping at doing comparisons and stuff but always don't use the trucks that actually compete. The zr2 still competes with everything while still being the cheapest
@wallylama31
@wallylama31 3 месяца назад
I like both trucks, but I'd still rather have a Super Duty and tow or haul a SXS for serious off-roading.
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Non road legal vehicles are not allowed on a lot of trails in AZ or CA, according to signs I saw posted.
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 Same in Colorado. However, in Arizona, an ATV or UTV can be licensed, with some restrictions, as a highway motor vehicle. Same in some Utah counties, all of Wyoming, and all of South Dakota. When I lived in Wyoming some years back, a co-worker rode his street-licensed ATV to work every day, all on paved streets in town--perfectly legal there. Not so in the now full Socialist state of Colorado.
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
So, what if you are a South Dakota resident or Washington resident (you can license them there too) and go to Colorado? You have SD or WA license on your ATV. Would that be allowed on Colorado trails?
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@wallylama31 when it’s 110F in moab, it’s nice to have AC and ventilated seats
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 ATVs and UTVS can be operated on Colorado National Forest and BLM roads without "street" licensing, but generally not on county roads that are not also National Forest or BLM roads, and never on state or federal highways. A few locales allow ATVs and UTVs to use town streets if the streets are used to access National Forest or BLM trails. Farmers and ranchers, as in many states, may get some exemptions allowing them to use ATVs and UTVs on "regular" roads in conjunction with their farming and ranching operation. It's complicated. Arizona is one of the few states with almost unlimited ATV/UTV use on roads or highways if the ATV or UTV is Arizona-licensed as a regular motor vehicle. Before I moved out of Colorado, there was a lot of controversy as to whether an Arizona ATV or UTV licensed as a motor vehicle could be legally operated on Colorado streets and highways under state reciprocity license recognition rules. I don't know how that turned out.
@planoman0935
@planoman0935 3 месяца назад
Great video and two great looking trucks!
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@madchiller1985
@madchiller1985 2 месяца назад
I vastly prefer the styling on the Ford and its simpler interior
@mazzen79
@mazzen79 2 месяца назад
You should air down a lot more... In a trail like this and with the KO3, I recommend 20 PSI in the front and 18 PSI in the rear.
@richardroberts6472
@richardroberts6472 3 месяца назад
34.4 is the tire size on the gmc btw
@mikeyfromthablock1158
@mikeyfromthablock1158 7 дней назад
i absolutely love my ranger raptor i didnt think i would as much but i do
@NatesHomeTours
@NatesHomeTours 3 месяца назад
2:23, What's with the loose wires in the raptor? How about since they are performance trucks they give us what we want, a V8? If money wasn't the factor, GMC for me.
@curtis4925
@curtis4925 3 месяца назад
Which wires? Are you talking about the 2 under Andre’s hand? If so some ones had pulled that out, that is factory wiring for additional after lights, so putting a light bar on is literally just connect to those wires.
@Teddyatlastwobrsincells
@Teddyatlastwobrsincells 24 дня назад
If money isn’t a factor you can just swap one in easy if you have money. Cry babies over a ship that has already sailed
@TheLumberJacked
@TheLumberJacked Месяц назад
I swear, when you were talking about the DSSV 5:04 shocks, I thought you said, “Unlike Andre’s sister, you do not require input in order to tell it to do something else” 😂😂😂 I thought Bro was going right for the family jokes. 😂
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 3 месяца назад
“Ooh, front AND rear.. I like that!”
@AHungryHunky
@AHungryHunky 2 месяца назад
"The spare is under the bed where it belongs" Not here where they dump more salt on the roads than we get actual snow. You keep that spare there and when you need it thats where it will stay. Salt likes to mix with the rainwater and runoff and get into just about every crevice it can, that tire will be locked in place if you are not constantly dropping it and cleaning all that out.
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 3 месяца назад
Love the Canyon!
@dereksutherland4300
@dereksutherland4300 3 месяца назад
Would have loved this, or hopefully a future, side by side comparison to include the Tacoma Trailhunter or TRD Pro… Interested to hear how you believe they compete with one another in the future.
@a2r7n6
@a2r7n6 2 месяца назад
GMC Canyon is the best looking midsize.
@daviddecker8421
@daviddecker8421 2 месяца назад
Looks great too much extra junk as is the norm nowadays.
@Commentleaver-c6x
@Commentleaver-c6x 2 месяца назад
Let me guess, you have one.
@marksullivan8200
@marksullivan8200 2 месяца назад
If you test frontier I'd like to see it equipped with Nismo parts & then test it vs others at that price point showing bang for the buck Nismo is to Nissan as TRD is to Toyota so put the good parts on the frontier before testing it against TRD pro or raptor ranger & then let the games begin, no one wants to give Nissan a fair chance seemingly it's already under rated & them it's not tested with the good parts as the others are
@johnyota131
@johnyota131 3 месяца назад
Price aside, both are very good looking and capable trucks!
@MrApplesaucestuff
@MrApplesaucestuff 3 месяца назад
any truck is better then the new Tacoma at this point. even ford and chevy.
@YerBoyTroy
@YerBoyTroy 3 месяца назад
The taco is better built then these 2. Don't get distracted by all the shiny toys you see on-top of the aging platforms under these trucks
@casper24ism
@casper24ism 3 месяца назад
​@@YerBoyTroylol nice try!
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
@casper… The Taco is a sea cheap feeling plastic compared with any of these two trucks. The TRD OR with premium package is practically same price as the Raptor in this video and STILL HAS THE SEA OF PLASTIC.
@MrApplesaucestuff
@MrApplesaucestuff 3 месяца назад
@@YerBoyTroy sure bud
@YerBoyTroy
@YerBoyTroy 3 месяца назад
Take a look under the frame for all 3. You'll have your answers. As I said, don't let the fancy white leathers and and soft touch door materials distract you 😂
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 3 месяца назад
That GMC looks awesome but you can get a Colorado ZR2 for 50k and then add bigger tires if u want. 60k is just dumb for a little truck.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@turdferguson2839 it’s almost $70k 😂 And those tire they use are only like $900 for a set of 5, so it’s not even like it’s an expensive upgrade.
@Tiovergudo
@Tiovergudo 3 месяца назад
You can get a zr2 for 48k. You add bigger tires and ur good
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
You will need a lift too. Otherwise rubbing.
@Tiovergudo
@Tiovergudo 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 zero rub from others. And worse case a spacer should help. You can do a lot for the 10k plus premium the bison/AT4x ask for. The aftermarket is pretty good
@Deadset.zr2
@Deadset.zr2 3 месяца назад
That's like 200 bucks ​@@is6566
@nth842
@nth842 3 месяца назад
The zr2 and zr2 bison have the same lift ​@@is6566
@marklihsu
@marklihsu 3 месяца назад
Suspension and the v6 in the raptor makes it far superior
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 3 месяца назад
I really think hydraulic hood struts are neat but definitely one of the least important things to have on a vehicle.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
I think that the GM 2.7L cuts power and torque significantly at altitude despite being turbo'd. I test drove a ZR2 in Salt Lake City at 4500' and it DID NOT feel like it had 430 ft-lbs of torque. I had an old 2014 F150 on 35's that weighed 1400 lbs more and only made 420 ft-lbs, and felt stronger than the smaller, lighter, smaller tire ZR2. I also test drove a Jeep Gladiator Ecodiesel at 6500' and that also felt much torquier than the ZR2. I've tuned Ford Ecoboosts for about 4 years now and know that the Ford does not cut power at higher elevation on any of the more recent motors.
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 3 месяца назад
It depends on how the turbo is engineered. If the turbo is oversized and waste-gated, it will maintain power and torque at higher elevation. If the turbo isn't, it may not have enough reserve capacity to boost to "below sea level" pressure at high elevation. My 2012 Ford 6.7L diesel Super Duty's turbo was large and calibrated to start boosting significantly immediately when the engine came off idle--it ran at 12K ft. elevation like it was at sea level at any RPM above idle. Also, small turbo inline 4 cylinder engines have scant low-RPM torque just like a non-turbo inline 4 cylinder engine until the turbo is boosting. The two ways to get low-RPM torque in a non-turbo engine are either a longer piston stroke, and/or more displacement. Both will generally cause lower fuel economy.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@rockymountainjazzfan1822 I understand how it works. I live at 6500' and have been tuning Ecoboost trucks for years. Turbos are all wastegated on gasoline trucks otherwise they would be overboosting all the time. Its not like a diesel that can run a 20 psi just cruising because it doesnt care about the air/fuel ratio. But why have a turbo motor if its not going to maintain all or most of its power at high elevation? I'm sure you have seen the videos where the 2.7L is slower than the 2.3L Ranger. So that massive 430 ft-lbs and 315hp seems to be dropping down to less than the 270 hp that the Ranger makes at a measly 5200' of elevation. Thats a huge hit. It almost responds like an NA motor. And that was exactly how it felt when I test drove it.
@elcompareyes1744
@elcompareyes1744 2 месяца назад
Why is Nathan's shirt matching with the Raptors seats 😂
@pruitt3507
@pruitt3507 3 месяца назад
Id gone with the GM, iifff i was gonna pull something with it, i like the leif springs better. More stability when going down the road vs coil overs.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@pruitt3507 wut? Coils and 5 link are absolutely more stable. The rear axle movement is controlled far better
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 3 месяца назад
Yup, coils are better for towing; that’s why they put them on HD trucks 🤪
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@Cloud30000 Like the Ram 2500?
@pruitt3507
@pruitt3507 3 месяца назад
@@Jay-me7gwgo tow with the ram 2500 with a 5th wheel, its not as stable compared to another truck like f250 or 2500 chevy that has leif springs. And my comment is just my personal opinion.
@pruitt3507
@pruitt3507 3 месяца назад
@@Jay-me7gw go tow with the ram 2500 with a 5th wheel, its not as stable compared to another truck like f250 or 2500 chevy that has leif springs. And my comment is just my personal opinion.
@JesseMcDMusic
@JesseMcDMusic 3 месяца назад
If only the ranger had 35s...Itd be absolutely perfect.
@jeffschimke3297
@jeffschimke3297 3 месяца назад
Ford all the way
@-zerocool-
@-zerocool- 3 месяца назад
Ford all the way, these other trucks just look like they have add-ons.
@Holden-McGroin
@Holden-McGroin 3 месяца назад
The Ford looks like it was designed in 1998.
@kubeanie18
@kubeanie18 2 месяца назад
16:50 impassable yet plenty of room on the left lol
@geomax3465
@geomax3465 3 месяца назад
What amazed me all this years about TFL Channels is that they are NOT good drivers at all. 😄 Nice video by the way.
@mikemissouri5152
@mikemissouri5152 3 месяца назад
The Chevy Bison is the best deal. it comes with DSSV bump stops which the GMC doesn’t and it’s 7k less.
@mikewilliams6086
@mikewilliams6086 15 дней назад
Pretty light on info. Ford is petrol and I assume the gmc is diesel?
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 3 месяца назад
Cool trucks. Would still take a Trail Boss though.
@J-Murph412
@J-Murph412 3 месяца назад
Can we get a video of the 4Runner build Nathan was driving during the therapy ad? 😍
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 3 месяца назад
If you are going to air down, air down. 5 psi won't do crap.
@gunsmokezz
@gunsmokezz 3 месяца назад
Ya all I need to know is can the raptor take me Costco and back.
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Only if the curbs are not too tall.
@kvgrow
@kvgrow 3 месяца назад
Quickly!
@fastfed
@fastfed 3 месяца назад
36-30 psi lol that's not airing down. No way you felt any difference between those 2
@jasonveldhuis9471
@jasonveldhuis9471 3 месяца назад
Pardon me for possibly not paying attention but, I didn’t hear or read anything about why the AT4X AEV addition we saw here didn’t have the jounce bump stops. My 24 Colorado Bison has them and I think they’re great! I was under the impression that if you spent 12k on the AEV addition package ZR2, you got ALL the bells and whistles. GMC cutting costs here or, did someone pillage them off the lot??
@JoeMoutard
@JoeMoutard 3 месяца назад
They're optional on the AT4X AEV, but standard on the Bison. The additional cost of the GMC is their extra upscale amenities...which are very difficult to justify. The Bison seems to be a superior value proposition.
@jasonveldhuis9471
@jasonveldhuis9471 3 месяца назад
@@JoeMoutard Thanks,Joe!
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 3 месяца назад
Why can’t all steps be made to slide on the bottom, why must it be either/or?
@gregoreosRGV
@gregoreosRGV 3 месяца назад
Great start to the video boys 😂
@bradfordstearman11
@bradfordstearman11 3 месяца назад
I saw the ranger raptor the other day at the dealership and it seems so small…. Even smaller than the regular ranger?
@g4do
@g4do 2 месяца назад
Here's the part I don't understand. Why must these trucks be so similar? I'd build my truck to completely incomparable. The hp and torque would be higher significantly, better 4x4 system, much much better transmission, suspension would be a never before seen patented system. Even the seats would be wildly comfortable, with air and gel cushions. My truck would even have built-in air lifts on all four corners just in case i needed to get unstuck or change a tire. Unfortunately, it would cost so much money that I'd only sell 2 per year 🤣
@Alex.outbound
@Alex.outbound 3 месяца назад
Surprised Argentine is open this early
@Richard-yr5zj
@Richard-yr5zj 3 месяца назад
Why are all the comparisons with the Bison version? Is it that the regular AT4X can’t keep up? I think the Canyon looks better. Interior goes to Ranger because of the white accents in the Canyon. (Put the Denali interior in the AT4X, and the Canyon cannot be beat.) I guess I have to wait for a non-Bison comparison to judge performance.
@chadgraber4575
@chadgraber4575 3 месяца назад
Take those steps off! I've never understood side steps on any offroad vehicle.
@kohsman313
@kohsman313 3 месяца назад
Is it me or do these two nicely argue with eachother 😂
@calebparkin3
@calebparkin3 3 месяца назад
What pass/trail is this?
@Getusom
@Getusom 3 месяца назад
I like how Ford did the tail pipes on this truck. Looks cool….but I do think the GM trucks look better over all…
@Automotiveonthedaily
@Automotiveonthedaily 3 месяца назад
Does the ranger raptor have AC vents in the back?
@Drg24800
@Drg24800 3 месяца назад
No
@daleliske9757
@daleliske9757 2 месяца назад
Everyone wants more technology, but with that comes more money. If you want the toys, you're going to have to pay. And yet when you had Big Green, it went everywhere the Ford 150 Raptor went, but you didn't have all the creature comforts.
@maverick042121
@maverick042121 3 месяца назад
Can you go up an inch on that raptor?
@210castro
@210castro 3 месяца назад
I personally love all that tech inside the gmc, it reminds me of the hummer. Leaf springs are superior when off-roading, plus those shocks are from formula 1 so that clearly makes them superior to fox shocks.
@terrencejones9817
@terrencejones9817 3 месяца назад
I'll take the Standard ZR2 over all of them thanks.
@20smgreen
@20smgreen 3 месяца назад
Nate, I'd argue that it's one of the best ones, but I brought a better one.....lol
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound 3 месяца назад
All Ford trucks have rusty axles off the showroom floor at the dealership take a look yourself GM trucks not so I would definitely purchase the gm trucks.
@smallgiant6064
@smallgiant6064 3 месяца назад
My chevy arrived at the dealership with frame rust.
@cerose5067
@cerose5067 3 месяца назад
I own both a 23' Bronco Wildtrak and a 23' AT4X. After 20k miles in both of them I love them both but ford rattles if you look at a bump and the gmc is as silent as it gets. The build quality of the gmc is far far better. That being said the tech in the ford is way better (gmc will randomly have quirks such as switching its self to km/h). Its a toss up, I will just never own a jeep product again.
@barbecuetechtips6024
@barbecuetechtips6024 3 месяца назад
Nissan frontier
@mattlennox7762
@mattlennox7762 3 месяца назад
Ranger vote +1
@NathanTOrr
@NathanTOrr 3 месяца назад
I have a zr2. The headlight debacle is B.S.. do you want to use your left hand or your right hand to turn on the headlights. Whoopty fricken doo! There's nothing difficult about it. They're on auto all of the time anyway.
@sirjynx3041
@sirjynx3041 3 месяца назад
If I owned a vehicle, the only thing I know for sure, is Andre would never be allowed to drive it.
@itllfly8018
@itllfly8018 3 месяца назад
Am i the only one who thinks the RR looks like a regular ranger?
@potentialreality3
@potentialreality3 Месяц назад
could have moved over a foot and drive beside the snow.
@arturoramos3431
@arturoramos3431 3 месяца назад
Ranger is better 💯
@jamesjannell8706
@jamesjannell8706 3 месяца назад
The gmc has the looks and more of a truck.
@DampNoodles
@DampNoodles 3 месяца назад
Absolutely everyone on this planet deserves and needs therapy. I literally just got out of my appointment myslelf. But Please please please guys. Look into better help. They have done a lot damage to so many peoples lives. They totally ignore hippa and sell incredibly private information to advertisers. Please please do not take their sponsorships.
@yssha5342
@yssha5342 3 месяца назад
Ya I wouldn't take a 2024 tacoma up there.
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Is TFL doing the Therapy ad as pro bono benefit to its subscribers to help them when they get depressed that they can’t afford any of these trucks? 😍
@marklihsu
@marklihsu 3 месяца назад
More like the taco owners who get ripped off and don't even get access to a V6 or front lockers 🤣
@tejasflo7076
@tejasflo7076 3 месяца назад
😂
@RocksNRuts4
@RocksNRuts4 2 месяца назад
or buyers remorse
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 3 месяца назад
Still think it's weird that the Ranger gets a front locker while no version of the F150 does
@blueridge8992
@blueridge8992 3 месяца назад
Might have something to do with the Ranger being designed for the global market. There’s a very competitive midsize truck market in Australia. Maybe the other brands offer front lockers there, so the Ranger had to have one too.
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 3 месяца назад
The Ranger shares the front diff with the Bronco, and that has a front locker fully validated. This greatly lowered the engineering and cost and parts complexity.
@reallyemptypockets6509
@reallyemptypockets6509 3 месяца назад
Why is the Ranger Raptor 59k, and the Bronco Raptor 95k🤔
@Anonymous-jj9yu
@Anonymous-jj9yu 3 месяца назад
@@reallyemptypockets6509money hungry
@RickActual
@RickActual 3 месяца назад
While it’s not a locking diff, the F-150 Tremor and F-150 Raptor used to have Torsen limited slip differential as an option. Unfortunately, I think they’ve taken that option away from the F-150 Tremor.
@outcast1sub7
@outcast1sub7 3 месяца назад
For the complaint about hood sticks, I much rather have a hood stick than the alternative. They don't break.
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 3 месяца назад
I fully agree. You seldom see a failed hood prop rod on a vehicle, but the hydraulic hood struts will always fail over time. One of my older vehicles has hydraulic hood struts and I've replaced them 3 times over the last 10 years. The seals in them just tend to start leaking after a few years.
@tboneforreal
@tboneforreal 3 месяца назад
As someone who has had a hood fall on my head after the struts failed, I agree. LOL
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 3 месяца назад
Yup, same with the rear hatch on SUV’s and glass on truck caps; having a stick to hold it open is much better and more reliable then struts that fail after a couple years.
@vw1610
@vw1610 3 месяца назад
It’s sucks when you’re working in the engine bay.
@anthonyantoine9232
@anthonyantoine9232 3 месяца назад
They don't break, but I've had them rust, in which case you're stuck there holding the hood open trying to spray WD40 in the joint so that it can rotate up. You're in basically the same scenario either way. I like hood struts, personally. They're convenient and I've never personally had a problem with them, but I have with a stick.
@jamesvegas702
@jamesvegas702 3 месяца назад
“put your seatbelt back on son” lol
@WheresHerb
@WheresHerb 3 месяца назад
I need therapy to deal with sticker shock . The price of these trucks are crazy. 😅
@diesel6916
@diesel6916 3 месяца назад
Really first time I have heard this
@javielito20021
@javielito20021 3 месяца назад
Cant wait until they are cheap truck steals in 5-6 years
@martiawesome
@martiawesome 3 месяца назад
I know..might as well just buy a full size with that sticker
@9663mu
@9663mu 3 месяца назад
@@martiawesomewhat kind of full size ? And will have it have all the goodies these trucks do ? No they don’t. Educate yourself with this full size comment.
@husshardan3511
@husshardan3511 3 месяца назад
The thing is if you built up a truck to compete w these it would cost about the same, not have 405hp, would not be properly developed from the factory, and would not have a warranty. These are expensive trucks because they have some serious hardware. Now, compare that to the more expensive Taco which has none of it...
@Ant_carr
@Ant_carr 3 месяца назад
Nathan and Andre are by far the best pair for videos on tfl
@heathcolwell9190
@heathcolwell9190 2 месяца назад
Couldn't agree more. I'd rather mix poison ivy in my salad than watch Roman.
@TheWinterfan
@TheWinterfan 2 месяца назад
When the adults (Roman) are away, the kids (Andre and Nathan) will play!
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 3 месяца назад
Its still interesting to me that GM was first to put a factory midsize on 35's- not Toyota, even though the new Tacoma fits them easier than ever, not Jeep, although 35's fit basically stock and the Wrangler has them as a factory option.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 месяца назад
Not surprised at all that Toyota hasn't offered 35s, they still refuse to even offer a proper all-terrain. And yeah, would have been a no-brainer for Jeep. I'm actually surprised that the Raptor didn't come with 35s from Ford. If someone had asked me, I would have predicted Ford would have been the first with 35s.
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 месяца назад
@@trailrunnah8886apparently the Ranger has 4.27 gears on it. 35 would be perfect for that. It’s really stupid that it didn’t come with 35’s. They’ll probably offer that as an option next year and charge an extra $5k for 2 more inches of tire.
@remembermorrison
@remembermorrison 3 месяца назад
Raptor is missing the transmission skid just like the Bronco. It is a plastic pan and owners should slap a skid plate on day 1!
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Also fuel tank.
@remembermorrison
@remembermorrison 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 fuel tank has a steel skid
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Ok tx. What about oil pan?
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn 3 месяца назад
@@is6566everywhere but the rear diff.
@stevekniess3665
@stevekniess3665 3 месяца назад
They both are badass
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers 3 месяца назад
You could have done your test on Argentine Route B. Deeper water crossings, and a Rock Crawl section. Looks better on video and does not put the trucks st risk. My trail guide shows that route.
@weekendwarrior8179
@weekendwarrior8179 3 месяца назад
As soon as you said, GMC. ATX and EV. I knew that price was gonna be huge
@RGP_WA
@RGP_WA 3 месяца назад
That damn spare tie location! Are u kidding?
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 2 месяца назад
It’s the most effective of placemat in the bed. Secondly when off road it is the most convenient to get to if you get a flat.
@wolfgang_h3t
@wolfgang_h3t 29 дней назад
​@@Offshore1977 the most convenient would be a swingate on the bumper
@stlc3415
@stlc3415 3 месяца назад
Great content, but you needed a base AT4X to compare with the raptor. I passed on the AEV version because of the tire and cost.
@davidwethington9320
@davidwethington9320 3 месяца назад
I bought an AT4X also for those reasons. I wanted to use the bed. No regrets. It's been perfect so far. None of the issues from the first year.
@PeakDecline
@PeakDecline 3 месяца назад
If you're serious about off-road then you'll be putting steel bumpers and skid plates on anyway and they'll cost just as much as the AEV package. There's also already people on the forums showing you can infact fit the 35 under the body with a bit of work.
@davidwethington9320
@davidwethington9320 3 месяца назад
@@PeakDecline I put a 2/1 lift on my AT4X and 35's. Barely touches the front under full articulation at full lock. Not enough to grab anything. Almost can't hear it. Very minimal trimming to fix it.
@TihsonToo
@TihsonToo 3 месяца назад
They are both awesome trucks, I love the looks of the GM twins. The big draw of the GM trucks is having more comfort features that the Ford decided to axe or omit, things like vented seats that even entry level cars offer. But their tech focus is a huge turn off, especially after their chief engineer claimed the infotainment system was "bug free." Also can't get over the fact that Ford had a global chassis that they brought to the U.S. but then got rid of rear seat HVAC and gave the truck a smaller gas tank but still charged a premium. Seems like cost cutting for basic comfort/convenience features for no reason other than profits.
@ryankunkel8247
@ryankunkel8247 3 месяца назад
Even entry level cars offer ventilated seats? lol. $60K plus BMWs rarely offer vented seats. It's by no means a standard option
@TihsonToo
@TihsonToo 3 месяца назад
@ryankunkel8247 They absolutely do, you don't have to go buy a BMW to get vented seats. Go get yourself a Kia Forte GT or GT-Line trim, MSRP at $22-25k and you can option in vented seats. Heck, you could buy 2 Kias with vented seats for the price of that BMW.
@ryankunkel8247
@ryankunkel8247 3 месяца назад
@@TihsonToo I think the Korean automakers are the exception. Which should be standard industry wide for their safety features too. You see some Ford F150’s for $55-60K with cloth seats (ridiculous pricing). My wife’s Suburban only has heated. Just saying it’s not a standard feature and in many manufacturers it’s only on top trims. That said, it should be on the Ranger Raptor.
@heathcolwell9190
@heathcolwell9190 2 месяца назад
@@TihsonToo I don't know one single person that owns a Kia. If you want to talk about "standard" car features, I don't know that going to the jankiest brands helps your argument. It wasn't that long ago you could "buy one kia for $10,000 and get a second one, free!"
@TihsonToo
@TihsonToo 2 месяца назад
@heathcolwell9190 So you used the anecdotal logical fallacy to claim "I don't have experience with something, therefore it's not valid" and dig up a 3+ week old comment instead of, you know, just googling another car. You can go get yourself a Chevy Malibu 2LT for $32k with standard vented seats. Or you can go get a Ford Escape for about $38k with vented seats. Surely you know people that own a Ford or Chevy. Go wipe the slobber off the corners of your mouth and Stan for your favorite car brand somewhere else.
@kruck96
@kruck96 3 месяца назад
Why does everyone make such a big deal about the headlight controls? I haven't had to touch a headlight control in 15 years. Since I live on the east coast the GMC would be my pick. I think it looks better, has a nicer interior, and there are no places to "baja" here. If I lived out west I'd probably do the Raptor.
@Deadset.zr2
@Deadset.zr2 3 месяца назад
Dude ikr haha the zr2 headlight control is in a screen. But the raptors LOCKERS are in a screen that's way worse and when you put it in offroad mode it loads up a screen and takes forever and by default the locker is on so you need to wait for the screen to turn it off haha
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
I like to control my headlights. Or lights in general. I always turn them on when start the vehicle and turn them off when stop driving. However, I agree the lockers being controlled by the screen is even worse.
@kruck96
@kruck96 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 nothing wrong with doing your own thing but I’m curious as to why you do that? Every vehicle has DRL on the front that are often as bright or brighter than headlights. The only scenario I could ever see for needing to manually control your headlamps would be fog. They come on automatically when it gets dark like tunnels and evening. They come on and off automatically when your wipers are on. Heck with all the cameras they may even respond automatically to fog.
@XploreAz
@XploreAz 3 месяца назад
@@is6566haha why? Do you adjust your power seat every time you get in also? And move your mirrors? Just leave the lights in the auto position. Set it and forget it.
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 3 месяца назад
@@is6566 In your case, you shouldn't have to touch them/"control" them at all...just leave them in "on" position and they should turn off once you turn off the car, especially after you lock it
@aymanlockhartable
@aymanlockhartable 3 месяца назад
20:10 put your seat belt back on! More like, “ We ride together. We die together. TFL boys for life.”
@Eightball2516
@Eightball2516 3 месяца назад
I would take the gmc easier to work then that cluster of a ford engine bay and the gmc to me is just all around better the gmc is a more simple truck less crap to go wrong unlike the ford the shocks and all the other stuff is on the computer
@casper24ism
@casper24ism 3 месяца назад
Lol look at the man that fancys himself a mechanic. You are clueless these engines are not engines the ave person can work on!
@Drg24800
@Drg24800 3 месяца назад
Gladiator and Frontier will have much easier engines to work on
@jerryrichards9107
@jerryrichards9107 Месяц назад
That's good considering how widespread the issues are on these new colorados.
@MarkPharaoh
@MarkPharaoh 3 месяца назад
The non AEV version would be a better comparison, price wise. I’d take the RR
@TheBeatenPaths
@TheBeatenPaths 3 месяца назад
I'm a Ford guy at heart, but not truly brand loyal anymore.....I'd take the Canyon just the ground clearance. Re: the spare tire....I'm currently driving a '19 Ranger and I can't remember the last time I looked out the back window. And I've got my spare tire laying in my bed right now.....the only thing worse than getting a flat tire is having to F around getting the spare down from underneath the truck.
@is6566
@is6566 3 месяца назад
Truer words never spoken.
@brandonbireley1690
@brandonbireley1690 3 месяца назад
And why are we always in the mud when it happens??
@TheBeatenPaths
@TheBeatenPaths 3 месяца назад
@@brandonbireley1690 When what happens?
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 3 месяца назад
@@TheBeatenPaths take a wild guess what he's referring to 🙄
@alexmar1382
@alexmar1382 3 месяца назад
I already drive the full size raptor and if the canyon was a v6, I'd consider it. But a 4 cylinder; nope. I'd rather just put 35" on the ranger raptor and call it a day even though it's unlikely I'll be doing any rock crawling.
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