Hi folks. BRAIN FART ALERT. At 8:20 I say this will charge form 5-10% in 10 hours using home Level 2. Obviously I read it wrong. It should be 10-100%. Please contact my people for a full refund.
No worries. In some cultures only God is perfect, so adding a flaw is a rule in order to not insult God. A note on boring cars. Totally agree, however that includes car colors. It seems to me that less and less cars are not just some monochromatic white/grey/black, even dark blue is rarely seen. PS. On safety at the charge station - European here. Troubling to hear safety is so bad, supposedly it is getting better lately (despite what certain networks claim).
Tom- Just had to take a moment to say your auto reviews are absolutely fantastic! I'm constantly impressed by how thorough you are - you leave no stone unturned when it comes to a car's features and performance. But what really sets you apart is the way you weave in humor/light. It makes your reviews genuinely enjoyable - like getting the inside scoop from a car-loving friend. You've got a real knack for making even the most technical details engaging. Honestly, your reviews are the most informative (and entertaining!) ones I've come across. Keep up the incredible work, Tom! God Bless! 🙂
Wow! That's crazy generous Will. Please email me if you ever need to bounce a car question off me. You deserve VIP treatment. I'm taking Martin out for dinner! Thanks for the support.
I love this car but would love it even more if it had a liftback for the trunk so it has a larger opening. Even if the overall trunk space remains the same.
Great review as always Tom. Having lived with an Ioniq 5 (VERY similar charging dynamics) for 15 months, I believe there are a few points worth mentioning. Home charging makes all the difference. The time spent charging on road trips is more than regained by NEVER having to stop for fuel any other time. Just plug it in when you are home. Also, I found it more helpful to think of range in terms of time, not miles. After 2-2.5 hours I need a break from driving. So as long as I can go that far, I’m satisfied. Also, the difference between getting a charge at a max speed, and a charge at about 125, is less than 5 minutes. No big deal.
I’ve heard the needing to stop frequently anyway argument before, but I feel like there’s a huge difference between stopping occasionally because you want to or stopping every couple hours for at minimum 15-30 minutes because you have to. I’m glad you like your vehicle but I’m someone who will pull 4-6 hour shifts behind the wheel on long trips. It would drive me crazy to take extended stops that frequently
@@ianberry5562 fair enough. I’m in my mid 50’s and those stops are no longer up to me if you know what I mean. A 4 hour leg without stopping is just no longer possible… unless I dehydrate myself for a couple days. I have only had to stop for more than 20 minutes 2 times out of about 40. Most of the time the car is ready in 15 minutes or so. This Hyundai EV charging platform is really strong. But I get it, EV’s aren’t for everyone.
I think if you have a family then you don't want to stop that often. The faster you get to your destination the better imo. On my prior 5.5 hours trip to visit family I would want to at least stop once to get out and use the restroom or so. This would be a good time to get some food too if needed. With others then the car with you there are things that are out of your control so at times I do stop 2-3 times or so if anything. I've done the same 5.5 hour trip without any stops before but this is really only when it's super late at night whole my family is sleeping and I'm lucky enough not to have to go to the restroom at all. I would say if I'm driving by myself it would be way different as any stop will be on my time now. If I want to stop for anything I'm not holding anyone else up from being at the destination. I'm on my own schedule and with that stopping to rest is perfectly fine. Even longer breaks to go shopping or so. Everyone situations are different. EVs are doable at this time if charging will be quick as well. If you're sticking to bigger cities or places then that would be more ideal. If you have to go out and off the path I would stick with an ICE car. For me I wasn't going to get an EV until I was able to quick charge on a car with decent range. Like someone mentioned, it's about the time traveled instead and not so much the range. Pumping gas is like a 3-5 min process if there is no line. EV charging up to 80% is a 15-18 min process again depending if there isn't a line again. If you value time more above anything else on long trips then don't get an EV. If you don't mind planning our your trips accordingly around charging stations then get an EV. Eventually there will be more EV charging stations or stalls in the future so it's only going to get better at this point. I still like ICE cars for certain things but an EV is pretty awesome imo if it works for you.
1:31 - Back in Feb my local dealer was offering 11k off sticker for a new 2023 AWD Limited. I preferred more range so I got the SEL RWD at 7500 off. Amazing discounts for this kind of car. Loving my 6 thus far. Feels like a BMW, looks like nothing else on the road today. 👏 4:28 - And I agree with Tom. So spot on here! 5:12 - Now wait a sec.. 🤯 Running to my user manual. Hope that Turbo Iron sound is my SEL!
I was not thrilled with the exterior of this vehicle when it was announced. After watching your video and seeing it from different angles, I can say that its growing on me. Thanks Tom and Martin for the consistent, quality content.
Both Ioniq 5 & 6 look great to me b/c they remind me of cars from my youth. The 5 is like a king-sized 1980's hatchback and the 6 is like a Saab 900 Turbo, even has a whale tail! Both stand out, but the 6 is the one I really favor.
Tom…FYI Actor Dick Wilson (aka Mr. Whipple) the grocer who told customers "Please, don't squeeze the Charmin" died in 2007 at age 91. Nice IONIQ 6 review!
What a lovely car to look at. Also, thanks for showing us the ambient lighting at dusk as I feel that's often missed (along with the fake engine sounds and aceleration noises which I understand cause sometimes they're too quiet to notice).
You should consider the EV6. I recently picked up an EV6 GT and all I can say is wow! It rides better than the Ioniq 5 if you want that sporty feel and want an SUV/hatchback/wagon. 😊
@@BobDunn0 I'm still a fan of sedans as well. I just didn't like the whole two tone look on the outside. I wish they made the bottom black on all the colors. Also if it was a liftback I would've considered it more. I just like having an SUV like vehicle to do more things with it. The extra space is nice. The reclining rear seats were a factor for me too.
Great review, Tom and Martin. I am a huge fan of the Ioniq 6, with its swoopy styling and Merkur-ish double rear wings. My issue is charging infrastructure, living in rural southern Virginia. In time, I'm sure it will happen. In the meantime, hybrid powertrain vehicles is my personal preference.
I prefer the style/design of the Ioniq 5, but the features/options of the 6 are impressive. And it seems that Hyundai/Kia is pretty much the only mainstream automaker willing to take chances on design these days.
My initial impressions of how a car looks often change the longer it is around. Usually for the better. That certainly applies to our Ioniq 5. I appreciate the Ioniq 6’s aerodynamic efficiency and with time would probably come to like the “looks” just as much.
Thanks for your EV reviews. After the delay of the Volvo EX30, your review helped us settle on the Ioniq 6. You've mentioned a couple of times that you were shopping for an EV. I'm curious what you finally settled on.
Congrats on the 6. Hope you're enjoying it. It's on my short list. I'm still deciding since I know a few things that I can't share right now (plus my daughter's wedding...)
Well done as usual, Tom. The disinformation about EVs is completely real. Like you, I'm frustrated. Also like you, my next vehicle will be an EV. Keep up the great work, friend.
If you like this car, please check your local Hyundai dealer because these are gathering dust at your local Hyundai dealer. Deals are just around the corner.
Something to keep in mind about ownership costs is tires. One will need them about twice as often in an EV compared a similar sized ICE vehicle. The other savings Tom mentioned are real, no doubt, including the lack of a catalytic converter to be stolen, or smog inspections.
Yeah, I'm looking into tires. I've heard a 20% loss of life on average. It depends on how aggressive the owner's driving style is of course, like any other vehicle.
Another to-the-point review that addresses the regular topics car buyers are interested in. Thank You! One question I haven't heard anyone address. I understand the utility of AWD, but here in our NW where snow is relatively rare and light, seems like a heavy RWD car would work fine. My well-balanced 328 was easy enough to drive in snow, can you offer any perspective on a RWD EVs given their much higher weight?
100% - charge network needs work, both in quality and location. No, everyone will probably not be taking those epic cross-country road trips they are so worried about but still....underneath an overpass?? How about more like that new one that's indoors, drive in / drive out? Stick a pop-up Starbucks (or other good coffee place) and some clean restrooms in it and you'll absolutely print money!
I worked on those SCL chargers (was a good re-use of underused city land). It would be cool to see you feature one of our new curbside level 2 chargers we’re installing! 60+ ports will be available
I almost bought one of these, but the dealer experience put me off. Don't read much about that, but I'm sure that's a reason that EV sales are slipping. Especially Ford and GM, hide-bound dealers. So bought VW ID.4, checks all the boxes for suburban living when home charging, but road trips - Electrify America is a horrible company and experience! Great review, as always.
ID4, I hate to see id4@ electrify America station, it takes forever for them to leave, and always fucking a lot of them, if you buy those shit cars with slow charging speed, the least put a level 2 charger at home, if you can’t have a level 2 charger installed at home, buy something like this one: ioniq 5 or ioniq 6
@@matthewliuliu666I see your point but you need to look at the bigger picture. We need more stalls at every EV stations instead of more stations. To me the amount of stations right now is fine for the time being. It's the amount of stalls at each station that bugs me. Every station should have at least 10-12 stalls imo in case some are down. This will provide enough stalls for people with slower charging cars and keep around 6 stalls available or for faster cars. I'm not sure who's idea it was to make an EA station for example with only 4 chargers not knowing that they are giving free charging away with every single Hyundai car for example. That's just asking for a headache waiting to happen for their customers. BTW I have an EV6 GT at this time. One of the reason why I got it was for the fast charging. Also don't even ask to put level 2 chargers at these EA stations cause people with slow cars won't even know to use them instead of the 350kW stalls. Just make them all 350kW so that there is a better chance of getting one. That's if they're not broken or charging super slow for some reason. Home charging is key people. I only use stations now if I'm on a trip or if I need to charge real quick for unplanned ones.
my sister tried to get a kia from a local dealer and they were...less than forthcoming. she drove out to kia dealer who wasn't as morally challenged and got the plug in. six years later it's been perfect. anecdotal but true.
Tom did you try backing up at night in a dark area? The brake lights wash out the cameras optics. I have the 2023 - I 6. I live in the suburbs with no overhead lights. The backup screen turns orange. That’s Crazy. Had it to the dealer 5 times. Can’t be fixed without a design change.
When the Audi TT was first released, it was also a 'Love / Hate' design. I was a hater, but with the passing of time and some minor styling updates, by the time it was discontinued I had completely changed my opinion. This one I like from day one. I really liked the Ioniq 5 design, but Camp Mother didn't (I never even got to drive one!), so we are both enjoying our Kia! 😜
Yeah, this one isn't going to have a 2.0. It won't sell enough. Sedans are dead and swoopy sedans with no trunks are deader than dead. Hey, Camp Mother is reason enough to buy it though....so, congrats. And enjoy!
6:40 Tom, A suggestion: start a trend of quoting the EPA _HIGHWAY_ range rather than the mixed figure (which is mostly city driving) when reviewing EVs. Unless you drive a taxi around Manhattan all day, no one cares about “mixed” range… we only care how far it can highway roadtrip. Hopefully other journalists will hope on the trend as well.
There is no EPA highway range for EVs. It's an estimated range and then the MPGe figures that are a poor way of communicating efficiency to the layperson.
@@DrivenCarReviews I agree MPGe is dumb. However, the EPA publishes an MPGe for city, highway and combined as well as the formula for MPGe (from which their published “combined range” is derived). With some very basic math you could publicize the independent city, highway and combined range figures. Just do the math and help your viewers.
Front on is surprisingly attractive for a Hyundai. The backend is my only issue with the looks, feels like they are trying way too hard, a miss IMO. Sedan trunk is bummer too, something like Polestar 2's hatch is the future sedan trend we all deserve.
You can get a base model lease for under $200 and a better equipped lease for under $300. Combine that with two years of free charging... Hard to be that these days.
The Leaf is great for daily driving, a friend of mine has one, bought it off lease for $12K, he is very happy. His wife has an ICE car for out-of-town trips.
@@TinLeadHammer exactly! Such is / are the ideal owners of a Leaf. And consider this, NO Leaf has ever caught fire on its own due to the battery. It isn't perfect but show me.a car that is! Meanwhile I save easily NET about $210/month not buying gasoline and supporting less than desirable countries that produce the oil for gas.
As long as you do not want to impress the neighbors...you are golden! My brother's Leaf got totaled via fratricide: a Nissan Armada rear ended him at a red light in Glendale, AZ.
In EV6 vs Ioniq 5 battle, I was on the EV6 side until I saw the prelim reviews of the Ioniq 5 N, that looks a hoot though sounds like it will be pricey.
Old-school MB/Daimler-esque styling, not a hatchback, no foot room under front seats, little headroom in the back. All in all, the car for two rich childless people. I like that it looks different though. The review is solid as usual.
Tom - your charging info was incorrect specifically - 150kw charger delivering full power (e.g 150kw) will charge from 10-80% in 30 minutes if you were only getting 50 it was the charger - level 2 charging - using a 50 amp circuit delivers 9.3kw and charges 10-80 in less than 8 hours My info is based on owning an Ioniq 5 for 2 years
Trunk access is horrendous. Worse than my ‘69 Camaro, my first car. And that wing on the back looks stupid. Other than that it looks OK. Not that I’m interested in a sedan that’s rated at 270 miles but is sure to deliver far less in the winter. It’ll be interesting to see if you’re going to score a nice clean used Taycan Tom.
Another great review, thank you so much. I know it’s individual but it’s just bordering on ugly. I don’t feel the looks are going to help sales. In Western Canada there is no government subsidy so EV are way to expensive and the infrastructure doesn’t exist
I can't help it if you don't have good taste. Kidding. Really, this is like a Rorschach test. People love it or hate it. I like the drama a lot. My son hates it.
Level 2, 5% to 10% in 10 hrs, meaning that home charging is rather meaningless for driving 50 miles to work, unless there is a charger there that could be hogged for a whole day.
I'm not sure why EVs are getting such a big push..id take a hybrid any day over a full EV. Hybrids make so much more sense and even consumer reports agrees, hybrids are more reliable
I had a hybrid for 11 years. Own an EV now. Hybrids have been around forever, but NOW you all think hybrids make sense. They didn't make sense when gas was 4.50, but now they do for some strange reason.
@@WordsMatter1982 They don't like hybrids any more than they ever did. Just talking them up a tad, lip service at its finest. It's just a way to keep that nasty two-letter phrase "E-V" out of their mouths.
Tom, as always you do a great job of reviewing vehicles. That being said, this is absolutely the ugliest vehicle you have ever reviewed. But, this is your job and you have to review even the disgustingly ugly repulsive, nasty looking vehicles as this is. Reminds me of the Ford Taurus in the late 90s or maybe a bad Buick from the 90s.
Congratulations to Hyundai… as this thing is so ugly it is the first and only time I have ever been compelled to leave a comment on one of your videos in years of watching. For a pair of corporate siblings that have been knocking it out of the park design-wise from the Telluride to the Palisade to the quirky Santa Fe and the wildly popular Ioniq 5… this thing is an absolute miss. Worse yet, it somehow screams “South Korean” in the same odd way the early US bound Hyundais did; especially thinking of the original Sonata here. Just an air of cheapness from the plasticky bezel around the screens to the cheap looking blue LCD digits on the climate control.
You would have rocks in your head to buy this car over a Tesla! Kia and Hyundai are recalling ALL of their electric vehicles almost 200,000 of them due to faulty charge controllers! They can't even update the software over the air and need STEALERSHIPS to fix them. Out of warranty battery replacements are $50,000! That is a deal breaker if you get into an accident or accidental damage to the battery. Plus there are DOZENS of additional features the Tesla has over these cars including self-driving, remote monitoring of the camera, always running dashcam an phone app that actually works and tons of more.
So it is a recall at no cost for an owner. What's the problem? Tesla's models 3 and Y are ugly inside with almost no physical controls and with a go-cart suspension. I would consider the Y if Tesla made a proper dashboard for it, I don't like the huge TV screen bolted to a wooden plank.
@@TinLeadHammer So I guess you haven't seen the new Tesla Model 3 AND you don't need anything else with a Tesla because everything is set automatically or can be controlled by your voice unlike other legacy dinosaur juice gas sucking cars! Also, you like paying for $50,000 out of warranty batteries? You sound pretty smart there.
@@akennedystocks I am driving a GTi that I bought for $5K off the sticker price because no one wanted a stick shift and I happen to like it. I saw the updated Model 3 interior - what is new? A bigger flat panel perched in the middle of the bare dash? Enjoy your Tesla, my friend.
@@TinLeadHammer I will, it is an elegant vehicle without needless buttons. Enjoy your stick shift and your blackberry with all the needless knobs and buttons.
How long does the battery last on Ioniq 6? Your Hyundai IONIQ 6 battery will ordinarily last between 3 to 5 years, but that can fluctuate massively depending on type of battery, weather conditions battery size, and driving habits. Even still, just because your battery isn't totally dead, doesn't mean it's operating properly. How much is battery for Hyundai Ioniq? Hyundai Ioniq 5 $60k Replacement Battery Price Validated in Another Case.Dec 24, 2023
It doesn't need a replacement unless it's damaged... they have a 10yr 100k mile warranty on batteries. Where did you hear about it lasting only 3~5 years?
Noah, do some homework. Or stop spreading falsehoods. All EV batteries in the US are warranted for at least 8 years or 100,000 against significant degradation. All EVs sold in California must have coverage that lasts 10 years or 150,000 miles. Generally, pack degradation is not an issue. Nissan Leafs had some trouble but those packs didn't have cooling systems.
We'd be speculating. Buy one and find out. California requires that they function for eight years (and believe me this standard would not exist without CA) , without getting into minutia that ought to do the job for the majority of use cases.
The future is electric, but personally, I'll never buy one until they aren't a disposable vehicle. Right now, they're nothing more than play toys for the rich. Minor accidents often write the vehicle off, some are seeing battery replacements after 5-7 years (which cost more to replace than just buying a new car). On top of it all, they are using our tax dollars as an incentive for people to buy them.
Everything I've studied says you're getting bad information. There are plenty of 10 year old Teslas running around Seattle in good pack health and precious few EVs that need battery replacements in 5-7 years (on par with cars that need new gas engines in the same time frame). I had a Volvo that got "totaled" after it was hit by a Subaru causing seemingly average damage. There are always horror stories, ICE or EV. And let's not forget the TRILLIONS of our tax dollars the petroleum companies have received over the years. I look at it as this- For once we ordinary people can get some of our tax money back. Take advantage of it dude.
I would likely only consider Teslas since they seem to make the same products for years with incremental changes. In theory that should mean availability of parts and hopefully keep costs lower compared to the latest offerings from other automakers.
@@DrivenCarReviews there has recently been a few issues in Canada that have been on the news or other review channels. One of them was for the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. They don't operate when the temperature goes below -20C. I am guessing it is an oversight in the ECM firmware, but it's a big oversight to have hundreds of bricked $65k vehicles for a couple of weeks in the winter up here. It's likely an easy fix, I'm guessing a software update to simply run the gas engine to condition the battery pack (assuming that was the problem). The other issues have been with Hyundai EV vehicles, specifically the Ioniq 5 and Ioniq Sedan (before it). There has been a few examples where the customer ran over some mild road debris (small branch, exhaust pipe, etc) which caused the debris to bounce up under the car and hit the "belly" where the batteries are. In those examples, what looks like a benign impact, ended up writing the vehicle off (which is a scam). I think Tesla vehicles have a titanium underbelly plate to protect the battery pack, so that might be money well spent if that is going to be a weak point. I also read that tire shops in California (where there are tons of Teslas) say they often need new tires every 20,000 miles. EVs are heavy and the EV tires apparently don't last as long. EV tires are also more expensive to buy, so that's something to consider as well. You can go visit the "Motormouth" channel and search for the battery issues, if nothing more than to learn about what has happened up here. As I said, I think EVs are the future, I just don't think we are there yet in terms of infrastructure and battery technology.
EV battery replacement at 5-7 years is extremely rare and would be covered by warranty in the unlikely event it was required. Repair ability is an issue with EVs and any new technology. Personally I am waiting for a gas powered vehicle that gets 100 mpg and I can refuel at home. Until then I’ll stick with an EV.
You got it wrong. EVs are disposable now, with non-removable battery and no clear plan for recycling. I am hoping for a single standard quick-removable battery for ALL makes and models, which would be rented from charging stations, not purchased with a vehicle.
