Thank you for this very thorough review! I have been looking at this laptop, and was disappointed that the varient with the 4070 wasn't available on the website in the US. I have contacted Lenovo multiple times via customer support, and was unable to confirm when, or even if it would come to the us. Your review is the only one I have seen to specifically mention the release date to best buy! Thank you so much!
man, I have the 4050 got a open box excellent ono under 1200 dollars that included taxis with a 3.2 k screen that is beautiful not the mini led but close and 4050 plays modern games at 1080 over 50 frames per minute on mostly medium settings. I don't know about you but I am satisfied with that for the price.
i had the Lenovo Yoga 920 almost 6 years i switched this year 2024 to Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 16.. still learning samy Book lol... lenovo builds very solid Laptops i enjoyed that 6 years.
I've heard the hinge of them is really bad, it was intend to break after year or two. but from what i see, lenovo is the best laptop maker right now, on pair with apple
@@johnbreaker3874 I've had my yoga slim 7 since 2020, the hinge got visible hairline fractures after a month of use, but this never got any worse despite heavy usage. Still, I hope the current laptops don't have this hinge issue..
As always, great review. However, I wish reviewers emphasized more on the shortcomings of the different display technologies and how they manifest themselves in each model. For instance, everyone praises OLED panels but not as many talk about text clarity (very important in my view). Even at 4k resolution in small 15inch or 16inch displays OLED text clarity is not as high as in LED (Mini-LED in this case) panels, although for many users the difference is likely imperceivable (as always, it all depends on what your benchmark is). Mini-LED monitors are also far from perfect. In this particular implementation (but also in other Mini-LED implementations), there seems to be backlight bleeding in SDR mode (i.e., when FALD is not activated). Also, having FALD always on is not recommended. So consumers think they buy an amazing display almost as good as OLED. In my view this is not the case, and I certainly would not be happy with toggling the HDR option on and off every time I want to consume HDR content. Therefore, despite its limitations, OLED remains the best display option at the moment (and I agree with your comment in another video that OLED burn in seems to be less of an issue these days). So, let's not forget that for regular use the Mini-LED panel behaves as a regular LED panel. Relative to OLED, Mini-LED has drawbacks that for some may be deal-breakers (such as backlight bleeding or blooming, the latter already mentioned in the video) or advantages like improved text clarity and higher brightness, which depending on the content, can give Mini-LED a noticeable advantage over OLED. Furthermore, I think OLED panels are more consistent with regards to the picture quality, whereas Mini-LED panels can be a hit or miss, depending on the implementation (and this goes back to the backlight bleeding and blooming issues described above). As for me, I hope Lenovo offers a 4k OLED version of the model. Otherwise, the laptop seems to be great on so many other aspects.
Great review! Really well formatted with tons of objective and helpful insights into the performance and specs for those who overthink every decision, like myself! Exactly the video I was looking for. Thanks, Andrew!
Thanks for the detailed review. However, from what I've read from owners of this laptop, the battery life with light use is actually around 6 hours, with brightness and screen refresh rate set on the lower side.
I'm currently watching your video on this laptop. I have the 64GB ram 4070 version with the mini led touchscreen (only available in europe i guess... Hi from France ), and I'm quite loving it, it's not perfect notably the noise when you're in performance mode is quite loud but in intelligent mode it's way more manageable and I get almost the same perf. The HDMI 2.0 disguised as a 2.1, the quite slow SD card reader and the only one TB port when we know that intel's cpu supports natively at least 2. Overhaul i'm loving it with a few minor gripes.
@@cptcrogge Hi ! I'm gonna be quite long but i'll try to describe it correctly. (And i'm sorry if there is mistakes, english isn't my native language and isn't well taught here) Also a disclaimer because i probably have a differant tolerance to noise than you have, and i may not have the same workload as you. So don't trust me too much. I won't talk about the ultra quiet mode available in the bios (and only the bios, i didn't found it anywhere else) because i didn't try it but i suppose that for light to medium load it's even better for silent seeker. First I'll talk about light load like web browsing, video streaming, powerpoint, word.... In this laptop there is 3 power mode that you can access both via windows or lenovo vantage (their software) The first one is the energy saving mode where as you guessed is the most low powered but also the most silent one. At more or less 40 centimeter which is a little bit more than a foot it's close to dead silent, but not dead silent, if you're in a really silent room you'll probably slightly hear it. But it's not a problem to be honest because it's not really high pitch or anything so you could consider it silent. The second is called normal use in windows and intelligent/auto in vantage, it's still quite silent really close to the first mode in light use but it can be slightly more hearable in like 4k hdr 10 bit video streaming but even so there is probably sound to hear which is way louder than the fan. Performance Mode is actually similar in light load thought slightly worse in the video streaming explain above. In medium to heavy load (depending on your workload and own opinion) like video editing in davinci resolve, photo editing, light gaming (like indie game such as Celeste, Hollow Knight or Abzu) or programming and slight compiling. For energy saving mode it's close to the Auto mode in the worst light load so you can hear it if your environment is silent but really manageable and if you have headphone or iem you won't hear it even without music. Auto mode is getting noticable i could say it's mostly fine but when it get spikes of uses, fans ramp up and it can be anoying for some, to me it's perfectly find and doesn't bother me nor the poeple around me. Performance mode start to get awful and is clearly noticable but i would say it's bearable. Under heavy load to really heavy (It still depends on your workload) like unreal engine 5.4 or optimised like shit game, namely ark ascended. Saving mode can actually struggle but still perform surprisingly well and can still run those if you don't go to hard on presets and render quality. I was able to play fine (not the best but playable) ark ascended on 1920x1200 in medium presets with dlss on balanced and frame gen on. And to my surprise it was really not bad in term of noise, it's hearable yes. But if i had to make a comparison it's like a quite low pitch wind/noise. It's noticeable to me but really not bothering and it almost disapear with iems or headphones without music. In auto mode, it start to get noisy and can be bothering in extreme load in ark 1920x1200 in high preset, dlls balenced frame gen on it was really playable but it started to get noisy and bothering if not wearing headphones. But it was the maximum noise that i got. In the auto mode UE5.4 and ark where the worst in noise. For the performance mode... Just avoid it... it's like an old ps4 that make a turbine sound when starting, i'm quite exagerating but it's really annoying and to me it's too noisy to be usable. But maybe for some... To note that in perf mode you get access to easy gpu overclocking so maybe in some rare cases it's of use. For the USB C Charging Both the usb c and the thunderbolt support 100w via the power delivery standard. I tested it with a 65w PD power brick and a 160w max output with a 140w max per port (so imited to 100w) and both worked well. I even did my ark ascended energy saving mode test with my 160w charger and i didn't lose battery at least for the short test that i did. You could consider the provided 170w charger to be mandatory for heavy load if you want to be safe. To me the energy saving mode might be enough for almost any regular user that don't need to play unoptimised games or use UE5, and will be near perferct in term of noise. Hope that helped ! If you have other questions i'll try to answer them the best way i can.
@@Silver-xo3ur Merci! I appreciate the insight, for daily work the energy saving mode seems to be a great choice I love quiet devices. The USB-C information is useful as well because I often travel 2-3 days and need a leighweight charger. Last question, is the display comfortable for the eyes?
@@cptcrogge Hello ! Sorry for the late answer i'm in my exam period. As for the display i find it really comfortable it can go really bright in sdr and even brigher in hdr. It can get really dimmed as well if needed. pixel density is really good as well with almost 236 ppi so the text clarity is good. The only two annoyinng thing about the display is that first is that it's not standard, 3200 x 2000 is sometimes not well handled by some software, mostly fine but it can happen. The second is that the refresh rate isn't well managed, there is 3 modes but only 2 are availables by software, you have a 60hz, a 165hz and an auto mod that only seems to be a vrr or adaptive sync mode at 165hz it doesn't seem to dynamically change the refresh rate to reduce power consumption and doesn't for exemple switch to 60hz when unplugged or something. And the only way to get access to the 3 modes seems to be via the keyboard shortcut Fn + R.
The thing about the Asus ROG line is that, even in the 16 inch model, their keyboards are centered because they don't have a number pad. And as far as laptop keyboards go, they're damn good to type on (I'm currently using the 2022 G14). I'm a programmer so maybe a good, centered keyboard is more important to me than to most people but I thought it was worth mentioning. OTOH, I read that the G16's ram is soldered, so you're stuck with whatever they give you, and I'd rather max out the ram for running VMs and auch but again, that's just me.
Mine gets here Tuesday!!! Speakers are great for a laptop. Pricing is great, especially compared to the M3 Mac's. Those prices Apple charge are difficult for me to justify. Looking forward to testing it out on both Win 11 Pro AND Linux. Wish me luck on the latter. Over all Andrew, very nice work on the review!!! Thanks for the effort!
I have yet to see a reviewer that has caught the fact that this laptop does not have full bandwidth HDMI 2.1. The bandwidth is capped at 4k60, which is the same as HDMI 2.0. This is a terrible consequence of the HDMI standard not being transparent anymore.
Have to say this laptop might be the best windows has to offer when it comes to sound quality. Apple Macbooks have reigned supreme for to long in this area. Both laptops sounded great and even in my opinion. Says a lot. Btw congrats you earned a subscriber for your attention to detail and thorough reviews. So congrats
SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN A LAST NAME!!!!!!!!!!! I have the Slim Pro 9i 14" from last year and its awesome. Only thing that kept me from the 16" was not having two Thunderbolt ports. Handy for my use case. Wish the 4060 14" ones had been available in the USA.
One thing I'd like to point out that was incorrect was the battery sizing. Under the battery scetion of the video, you listed it as a 75wh battery. The 2024 yoga pro 9i actually has an 84wh battery.
Hey Andrew! Great unboxing as always my man! However I noticed on this video as well as your live unboxing on this unit, you mentioned you had the 4050 version, which if you look on Best Buy’s website, is the non-Mini LED version. The Mini LED version is the 4060 model for $1,899 (as of 5/19/2024.) I almost made this same mistake as well when I was about to order this. But then I seen that the $1,699/4050 version is non LED and ONLY 400 nits of brightness instead of 1200. Just wanted to make you aware that your unit is the base/non mini LED one. I noticed this on your live unboxing when you turned the brightness up and it wasn’t really that bright.
What a Fantastic laptop this really is Andrew!! I was blown away from everything this new model for 2024 has to offer. If I had to nitpick it, it would be the soldered Wi-Fi 6E integrated card but that's about it. Great port selection, super bright miniLED display, camera and internal mics are good, 6-speaker system which blows away the MacBook Pro Finally in my opinion as it sounds louder. The speaker quality might however be the same as the Asus ROG Zephyrus G16 at least to my ears. Love the Faster RAM even though it's soldered in but that seems to be the trend these days so make sure you upgrade it during the ordering process through Lenovo's website. The extended battery life is another welcomed surprise. So out of 5 stars, I would give the 2024 Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i a 4.5 due to the soldered Wi-Fi card. Immaculate review Andrew! You always go way above and beyond with these reviews and your subscribers in the end benefit from your brilliance!! 👏😁
Thanks, Andrew. I was waiting for the shortened review after the live event. As a creator, I am interested in this unit, but, as you mentioned, I can't find it with 64 GB and the 4070 combo. Do they feel this configuration will not perform well? You mentioned that you would ask Lenovo about these upgrades. It appears others have similar concerns. I might have to go to the Legion Pro 9i.
Hi, thanks for this amazing review ! Can we still remove the battery when we just want to use the laptop plugged in, in order to preserve the battery life ?
Hey Andrew! What do you recommend, a yoga pro 9i with ultra core 9, 32gb ram, mini-led touch, rtx 4060 (2300€) or Legion slim 7i glacier white with 13700h, 32gb ram, rtx 4060, 3200 res screen (1550€). The Yoga is brand new with 3 years premium care warranty, while the Legion only has a one year warranty, and is from ebay, apparently had faulty ram which was repaired (checked repair ticket with lenovo) , the seller mentioned the faulty ram but claims the laptop was unused. I would mainly use it for music production but like doing some color grading when I have the time. I don't game. I wanted something that was closest to a Windows Macbook Pro laptop. (good screen, build, speakers, etc) The Legion just popped up and the difference in price is significant (800€) I would love to know what your recommendation would be. Is the Yoga pro 9i worth 800€ more? (I still have a chance to return the Yoga and buy the Legion if its still available) I would really appreciate your advice. Thank you and all the best!
I am a game developer and gamer at the same time. I see this laptop is good for creativity but I am not sure that it's made for gaming. Can anyone tell me how is gaming performance with this laptop?
A competitive port selection would be two Thunderbolt 4 ports in 2024, more USB-C ports, less USB-A ports (if any at all). Otherwise great laptop with finally good battery life.
It looks almost identical to the 2023 version. Apart from the HDMI 2.1 port, it looks like not much has changed, but there are some quotes saying that you can't get the full bandwidth, so even that may not have changed. The new CPU isn't much faster than the 13th generation. We will have to see in 2025 if Arrow Lake or Zen 5 and Nvidia 5000 series GPUs brings a bigger advantage.
Great review, as always! I've determined that my next computer, a desktop replacement, will likely be a Lenovo. I've always been told that the differences in the manufacture and production processes between their ThinkPad line and the others (IdeaPad, ThinkBook, Yoga, etc.) go beyond ISO certifications. I have been led to believe that quality drops off precipitously outside of the ThinkPad line, and that the others are actually produced from start to finish by different manufactories. Do you (or does anyone) have thoughts to share about this? Thanks!
Torn between this one and the HP ZBook Fury 16 G10 - Fury has better screen and fully upgradable - The Yoga I'm looking at has bigger RAM (64GB) and slightly better graphics card - But the HP Fury is a grand (£1000) more. Is the HP worth a grand more? Any thoughts anyone? - using mainly for photo editing
Was wondering if you switched the GPU to use the Nvidia GPU instead of the integrated Arc Graphics for the benchmarking tests. I just bought this laptop and the default Nvidia setting (Nvidia control panel) is to switch back and forth as needed automatically ("Automatic Select"). Side note, I found it interesting that once you select one of the options of Integrated vs Nvidia, it won't let you switch back to the "Automatic Select" setting while on battery power.
How were the blacks on the yoga pro 9i in person am like you I've love oled I know last years model they were a lil grayish let me know thanks but it's popular lenovo said I won't get until may 21st
Between the yoga 9i 2-in-1 (not this one) and the hp 360 specter 14in u did a few videos on, which would you say is better for light (as a hobby) video and photo editing? And overall which would you prefer? Thanks for the quality reviews
Personally would go for the yoga, a good Dedicated GPU is extremely nice to have for rendering times and previews, and of course for overall performance.
would be interested in getting it if not for the full sized numpad. I never use it and it hinders my typing experience a lot, prefer the keyboards in Xps and macs, which excludes the numpad. would love to get it for the screen alone, but oh well...
Literally ordered it yesterday. THe model- Lenovo 9i 14" Intel Evo i7 with 16GB ram and 512GB SSD I ordered it for my college work etc. I want to know- can I play video games (eg- Fortnite) on it too?? I think i7 core and 16 GB should be able to handle it
@@vd9570If your laptop uses a Meteor Lake CPU (aka Intel Core Ultra 7), then you can definitely do some gaming on this machine. If it is a Raptor Lake(i.e. 13th Gen Intel Core) or older, you can still game on it but might have to tone down the graphics settings. 1080p Medium should still be playable in Fortnite though.
Best 16” laptop of 2024, no contest. Also for viewers in North America you should know that here in the UK, where Best Buy does not exist, this particular spec is the equivalent of *$2,700* on the Lenovo UK website atm. 😭
@@kingfishplayz8360 Went to a Best Buy in Phoenix last weekend and they let me try the Anker 65W USB-C charger and luckily it worked. Will be purchasing it. Thanks.
Excellent pc. Camera and mics are good. Speakers were excellent, better than the Mac. Keyboard layout is very good. Numpad laid out correctly. Ram might be soldered in but it should be more than enough for most users for the life of this kind of unit. Display is very good. The only negative you did not point out is the soldered wifi card but it is very minor as the card that is in there is plenty fast and users will not notice the difference between this and a 7 wifi card. Price is reasonable. Think about it you mentioned that the Mac book pro for $3400 dollars one could purchase two of these and still have money left over. Excellent review.
Yes i have one and the speakers defninitely rival my macbook pro M1, not quite as full, but great nontheless. Check out the editor of laptop magazine who says the auido is awful. I think he must be partially deafl. I am someone who values good audio on laptops and this is one of the best, but the ltiiile 14 inch yoga 91 also has very good speakers, so check out what the editor laptop magazine said , and you would probably think he out of his mind. I have yet heard the fans roar even under heavy load, I can hear them but I have to listen for them to notice. I cannot stand all of these windows laptops that burn your skin just for the highesr perfomance. roaring fans and heat I cannnot tolerate.
Could you please do a review for the ThinkPad T16 Gen 3? I'm having a difficult time deciding whether to buy the 2024 Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 16" or the Lenovo ThinkPad T16 Gen 3 for overall quality and reliability. Thanks!!
Hi, I have a question about the MiniLED display. I just received my unit and in SDR mode, it looks like a regular IPS panel. its only when i put it in HDR mode does it look like a MiniLED. is that the expected behaviour?
Sound very good. MacBook Pro still just an inch punchier in base. But otherwise it would be cool to compare it to Surface Laptop Studio 2 that has the second best speakers after Macbook Pro.
About that PWM, is it that bad or is it manageable? I looked up about PWM and I read a comment on Reddit about it, they wrote that they had severe eye issues and they often had to see a doctor because of PWM. Please please reply, I need to know if it is a major issue or not, so that I can make a decision on whether to buy it or not.
As expected, Lenovo offers the best performance per cost ratio... yes it lack of a bit build quality, cheaper materials (they used too much plastics for many years), and thermals can be an issue... but overall Lenovo laptops are on the top.
@@EduardLevesque you can probably get a healthy 8 hours of life at a full charge with average work loads. I keep it on 120 Hz all the time, wattage varies from 7-9 watts. The intel graphics app reports that it supports VRR, with a range of 30-120Hz.
Yoga Pro 9i or Zephyrus G16? I would love to know your opinion. Same specs, (Ultra core 9, 32gb/1tb, RTX 4060). Both around 2400€ . Bought the Yoga, have one more day to return it. Thought the build quality would be better. I would only get the G16 because of that and gorgeous looks. The only problem is the G16 is with RTX4060, so possible 3rd fan issues. (I am mix/master engineer) (Another problem: I bought the Yoga in Germany, with a 3 year premium care warranty. I don't live in Germany. (I was told the warranty is international, but it isn't) The G16 apparently gets me a 2 year international warranty. I plan to travel in the coming months.)
@@0reo2 Yeah, that's a great deal. Thanks for the heads up! I paid 2288e for mine, but it comes with the upgraded glossy touchscreen. The one that's 2070e is with no touchscreen. When you add the touchscreen upgrade to your unit, price comes to 2261e. So that's only about a 30e difference.
Would you choose this for 1900 over the G16 at 2900 (to get 32 gb ram) for light gaming, portability and battery life? G16 at 1700 on sale now would be nice but only 16 gb ram.
cant see 4070 version on Lenovo USA site, unfortunate as its a huge selling point, Gaming ultrabook with sleek design and screen is such an appeal to me.
