It’s going to be a subscription payment plan that’s what all car manufacturers been trying to push with this EV nonsense they want us to now start paying a monthly bill for horsepower increases fk out of here with this EV bs
@user-wb8wt9fd5h Been electric for nearly 3 years now 😂. My wife drives an ID4, I ride a zero motorcycle, and drive a bolt for my daily. Only reason I'm not driving a Plaid right now is.... can't quite afford one. Electric drives better, more convenient, and is just better imo. And I'm a car guy btw.
I'm sure we'll have some way of being able to disable it if they try to out run us. With those heavy batteries and needing to be charged and going slow as shit! Wouldn't even be a long chase 😂😂😂 I knew better nothing can ever replace a true V8!! Keeping mine cat ✌️💪
@courtneybenton9381 Doesn't have anything to do with us. We are also at the moment in a bad spot. Because we all drive the Dodge Charger as our patrol cars. So now we also have to figure something out. Our NC state troopers are going with a four door F150 built just for Law Enforcement.
@@courtneybenton9381And to be honest the fleet patrol cars are crap! Especially when some of ours are driven 24hrs non stop. But Dodge can keep the hemi, look at Ford they are standing on business. The ceo just got bullied into making a not so good decision. Fords CEO said help nah boss we live by the V8 😂💪
All we needed was a new Charger that was slightly smaller, curb weight of ~3,700lbs with a 550hp small block V8 Hemi and revamped interior. Is this too much to ask? Nope...we're getting even heavier EVs that no one wants.
Literally could have just refreshed the inside, then the outside a bit. Then made the RT lighter and 450 horsepower. Made the scats 550 hp and lighter. Kept the V8s and they would sell way more lol
Heavy battleship cruiser 😂 Mopar (Hemi) owners; If you're worried about going faster just modify the V8 🤷🏾♂️💯 Demonology and Boosted Luckey have built some powerful Challengers 👍🏾
I'll still keep my Scat Pack 392 charger yeah it's a slim body but it's fast as f*** it's all fixed with some black stripes cold air intake Corsa extreme Catalyst mid pipes there's no way in hell I will trade in my Skype to a electric car never I'd rather hear my muscle car with a V8 engine Roar
It really is. Massive torque, more than you could ever need on the street, and honestly on a long highway trip I got 30mpg from mine setting the cruise to 70. It is the perfect gas car, unless you just want more power
I think it’s another money grab. The speed is limited on purpose. Then they will come out with a software upgrade to unlock all the power. But you have to pay for it. Like those stage kits.
@@JRLL81_ I don’t have one, I’m just saying they have a higher top speed. Obviously the EV is going to be quicker off the line, but if it tops off at 135 that’s weak.
Things to love about EVs: 1. Child battery labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. Battery degredation 6. Poor resale value 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently But hey theres a tax credit!
Honestly I'm impressed with the Hurricane engines. I don't think the Hurricane Chargers will be this heavy but even if they were Hellcat heavy I still think it'll be absurdly fast. In the Grand Wagoneer L it can hit 60 in 4.9 seconds and those weigh 7,800 lbs- I think the Hurricane models will be the fast ones.
They tried the Hurricane as a late option for the now previous generation challenger drag pack. They have trouble doing burnouts to heat the tires up, and are slow AF off the line until boost hits.
@@tv321123 I have seen the exact opposite, and the new Charger will be AWD and from people testing Grand Wagoneers and the new Ram 1500s with the same motor, there's little to no turbo delay or lag, it's a fast motor. They generate more power than Hemi's did and weight way less than Hemi's did. It may not be a V8 but it's better.
@@stellaa1328 1. Look at the last gen challenger, the 50 they made with the drag pak hurrican. Slow off the line and laughable burnout ability. 2. The "HO" Hurricane get as much power as it make, by already pushing 25lb of boost from the factory. Not only is there not much more room at all for the aftermarket to up boost; Any other turbo based performance car in the class is already lighter, and a tune away from also pushing ~25lb of boost, and making more power. Anyone could buy a S4 instead, APR stage 1 it with a warranty, and end up with a nicer faster car, for the same price or less. Let alone anything with a B58 3. The entire point of a 'muscle' car is the V8, That is literally the only poupous of a 'muscle car'. a relatively cheap package, with a big rumbly motor. When you take that out of the equation, there is no reason to buy one. There are already 5 handfuls of turbo based performance cars, that are lighter, have inherently better handling, and already have the aftermarket.
I hope the car community is not fooled. 1. EV batteries are very heavy so more voltage means more weight. What’s the lb/hp numbers? 2. No city has the infrastructure to support regular EVs being the majority. Good luck finding available WORKING charging stations 3. Has anyone considered the range and charge times of the muscle EVs? Y’all gonna make it to the car meet but y’all won’t be able to leave. 4. Maintenance and tech support. Only the dodge dealership will be able to touch those cars. Has anyone dealt with the dealer service department lately. They all keeping cars for weeks at a time. 5. How will these cars survive environmental conditions? That winter storm that came through the south in January had Tesla owners stranded and charging stations broken. 6. How will charging your muscle EV affect your monthly power bill. You thought 93 gas at 12mpg was bad 😂 Stop focusing on the styling and the power output and focus on the drivability and actual logistics of owning an EV.
Agreed 💯 People need to research what living with an EV is really like. You’ll be hating life driving cross country with 35 miles of range left and find out in the middle of Kansas the closest charger(if it works)is 50 miles away😱 Closest gas station is 5 miles away next exit. You won’t be saving much on gas either. Search for “states raising registration fees on EVs “ to make up for lost revenue from gas taxes. The taxman is going to get his cut.
Even the Inline 6 will be heavy, considering they are 4 inches wider and 8 inches longer than the previous generation. Plus the awd will make them even more heavy. Dodge sht the bed on these real bad.
If the battery weighs 2,000lbs you take it out the car would weigh 3,800lbs exactly. Then if you add the Hurricane engine it weighs 441lbs so that equals out to a 4,241lb car. Which is exactly what the Dodge Chargers and Challengers weigh right now. Dodge literally wasted their time and money making this car’s chassis the frame weighs too dam much. Also why in the hell does a in-line 6 weigh over 400lbs it’s a inline 6??? The BMW B58 inline 6 weighs 306lbs how come Dodge couldn’t make this engine weigh much less the engine itself is too dam heavy???
The battery weighs 2,280 lbs specifically; the Six Pack cars are going to be SIGNIFICANTLY lighter than ANY of the previous iterations of the L cars. They’ll be around 3,600 lbs- that is svelte for a large car. Right off the bat they’ll be about 800lbs lighter than the outgoing Charger Scatpack. On top of all the weight savings, the new STLA large was actually engineered to be a a very capable car in the twisties. The GM Alpha platform was benchmarked when handling dynamics were solidified for STLA large- the 1LE cars are stellar handling machines, great platform to aspire to match if you all me. The wheelbase is a full 8” wider than the outgoing L platform, with far more rubber on the ground than could ever be stuffed into the wheel wells of the old cars (no stupid tacked on fender flares needed anymore to be able to get respectable width tires under the car.) We can hate on the EV powertrains all we want, but the I6 versions are looking to be really formidable performance weapons. The 6,400+ lb. 510-hp Grand Wagoneer is a monster on the highway, and feels noticeably quicker from a standstill to 60 driven back to back against a 6.4 GW; lag is basically non-existent, it’s wild. The cars are going to be brutal with 550hp and a 3,600lb curb weight. These new Chargers could very well be the modern American 2JZ, and there’s not one bad thing about it if so.
@@redhunnid5142 So how would you know the BMW 6 weighs 306 lbs and Hurricane 6 441? OBTW, in case you hadn't noticed, BMW cars cost quite a bit more than a current Charger 6; part of that is the higher tech engine.
Dodge is either have to take their Ls and slowly fade into obscurity or actually create another v8 or combustion engine that can be a proper prodigy of the hemi. Either way, dodge is fucked fr.
Ahh Rip Dodge was a good run while it lasted ahh 😂😂😂😂😂 electric pieces of shii I have ats v Cadillac coupe that can eat this shii up I love dodge this is just down right disrespectful the dodge brothers or flipping in there graves what a shame if anyone get any ideas to run from the cops in these fat mf’s good luck might as well turn yourself in before initiating the chase nothing like a V8 for all my car enthusiasts it’s screams America I think I’m just going to save up and get a car next added to my list lined up with the ats V caddy
It may be designed to be “limited” to 137, when you’re talking about 3 tons of mass going 200mph, that’s a LOT of potential damage. We all know how many wrecked hellcats are out there, it may be a simple safety issue. That thing would hit like a freight train
Until the government eases up on emissions, this is our fate. AT the end of the day, there are still plenty of V8s on the market. We just need to cherish and keep what we have
Durango Hellcat is only 5575lbs... this thing at 5900lbs is FAT. (Not your fault here on the weight Knockout, the internet is sadly just full of bad information) Also worth mentioning the 1/4 mile specs they claim match the Durango Hellcat (my stock DDHC did 3.2 to 60 and 11.5 @ 118 at the track). The Hellcat cars smoke the Durango when they have traction... this is no contest compared to a Hellcat Charger/Challenger.
I think the 1/4 mile claims are way off. At that weight with less horsepower than the DHC there is no way that car runs an 11.5. I would venture to say it wouldn’t even touch the current gen scat. I ran 11.65 @116 with a 3.3 0-60 in my stock scat pack challenger.
Here's something a lot of people haven't even thought about......TIRES....With the additional weight, owners are going to need the specified tires which are very, very expensive. Ask the Tesla owners.
@@SRTHOOLIGANX Nah, the next gen Camry is only gonna be offered as a hybrid 4cy, lol. There are rumors of an AWD performance GR Camry in development, but it's definitely not gonna have a V8. It'll most likely have the same turbo 3cy that the GR Corolla snd GR Yaris have. (Around 300 hp).
Those 2 dudes talk about the battery range. One is 310 miles or so, the other is 280 miles or so. How many rips you gettin before your ass has to go home?
Even worse if it’s in freezing cold temps❄️ Want to use the heater/AC ,wipers or any other feature of the car thats uses electricity,range drops even more. I’ll pass.
No matter how much power these cars make you can’t forget these things are still ran off heavy batteries that are more than likely gonna lose power as time passes. Can’t beat combustion
Can't wait to see the stats with a 50% battery charge as well?! You can't always keep 90%+ battery in an electric car especially in Northern climates. Gonna be alot of disappointments for people who get these
I went from a '19 Challenger RT to a '22 Durango SRT, and I'd rather have a 15-23 Challenger Hellcat than the 25. That being said, the i6 powering the version that weighs 2500lbs less than the EV might be fast as fuck.
Top speed is basically what tesla did with the plaid. Limit it to a low speed bc there no brakes developed to stop a 6000lbs cruise ship on wheels from 160+ mph. For reference, the Bentley CGT Speed tops out at 208mph, weighs over 5000lbs, and has brakes larger than a Bugatti Chiron. I think the Bentley runs a 440mm carbon ceramic rotor with 10 piston Calipers if im not mistaken, but you get my point.
Very likely that reason bro and maybe that a 6,000lb missle doing 150-190mph would be a recipe for serious trouble... safety for sure... something that heavy shouldnt be doing ultra high speeds..you start getting outta control and the back end starts sliding out, good luck keeping it in control with that weight.
I am in my 50s.... I will NEVER in my life left buy anything other than gas. Never wanted or liked EVs... EVs are complete trash. Can we do a do over and create a different power to be created to create a new type of new power over than electric?
lol I think I’m gonna stick with my charger RT and just pay it off. I was looking at scats recently but decided to wait to see what this new Car looking like and ehh. I’m good with my RT
@@bustingyewls154just build it. You already have a V8 so there’s no reason to upgrade to a scat when you only have 115 hp less than a scat and you don’t have to run through hoops with these bs stealerships
@@bustingyewls154 Me too bro. I have a 2017 Scat Pack and it's close to paid off. A newer Scat Pack is $90,000 here in Canada 🤦 Probably hold onto mine for now. I only have 77,000km on it.
@@Alpha_Ghetti_392 damn ! Yeah might as well keep it ! Maybe in a couple years you will change your mind about the new charger and if not there’s a lot of other cars out there
As an automotive technician, I'm seeing many different manufacturers of electric vehicles void the warranties on the cars batteries because road debris went underneath the car and made indentations, crease in the protected tray on the battery. You're talking about one part of the vehicle. That costs on most vehicles in excess of $25000. The other thing that you need to consider when buying an electric vehicle from any manufacture is the fact that the batteries degrade overtime Whether you drive the car or not. The battery's mileage range depends heavily on what the outside ambient temperature is. And ultimately, no, electric car holds its value. Because of the battery degrading over time, they lose value dramatically.
While I like the looks, love that it's a hatch with the folding seats. but that's where it's stops. Heavy, slow and electric, and no V8, is a deal breaker for me.
Good video you did a good job. One question I would add is because I've never seen any videos talk about it so far is stopping distance? A Tesla Plaid which is about 4,700 lbs it takes that car to stop from 60-0 in 110 feet. It has 16-in rotors that's the same size they say the new Chargers going to have. But the new Charger is going to weigh at least is 5,800 so I can't imagine the distance it will take to stop The new charger 😁
Stellantis is a European company for a global market. They don't really care about even keeping Dodge in the long term. Dodge will eventually be shut down if they continue to own it
You guys have to study electric engines motors!! You'll probably see how fun they can be and not be so worried about this change. You'll have a fairly consistent torque output throughout the entire speed range. I don't believe it will take long at all to reach top speed. On track, you might have something to worry about with the weight but I don't think the weight will hold you back to that top speed. I bet money the Banshee will go 160-173mph.
I don't know why y'all keep boosting your feelings just to let Dodge keep hurtin' your feelings. smh. Ya'll really happy drinking the Dodge Kool-aid ever since FOMO last call BS and sticker packages.
As much as I love to go with whatever Mopar does and make the critics mad, I just have to say... that is unacceptable. Weighs more than a f350. Who are they selling to at this point??? Needless to say, the Challenger sxt tops out at 153 mph...
Don't forget the other hidden issue, control. Being an EV means Dodge will have the ability to remotely "update" your car which can be nice except when it does stuff like limit power output etc. It could also mean the drive-train cannot handle higher speeds. Weight also means chewing through tires even if you drive like grandma. They also made the mistake of release these cars without graphics. It would have made them look less vanilla.
The absolute worst thing about electric vehicles... is the inability to tune them for more power . Well not the worst thing, because batteries quickly degrade and are very fragile. Dodge drivers are rough on their vehicles, so I predict a lot of fires and battery explosions . Electric vehicles aren't made for abuse like gasoline vehicles are .
I have been buying Dodges since the 1990s when the gen2 V8 Dakota R/Ts came out. This new charger SUX Brah!!!! I am sure it will have hidden cameras and mics to record you when driving and have a government kill switch to disable it when ever they feel like. Add to that battery fires for the EV model when charging, Weak Ass inline 6 that needs turbos for the ice models and it weights as much as a dump truck. With no V8s in cars or trucks coming from Mopar, I am going Shelby Mustang after all these years for American Muscle Brah!
Yeah, we need cars on the road that go over 137mph. If the car is going over 137mph on a public road, it's either being driven by an idiot or a cop chasing an idiot.
Most people with V8's aren't pushing them to the limit on public roads. We like the sound and quick acceleration more than whatever the top speed is. But for Dodge to advertise a 600+ HP vehicle then saying it maxes out at 137mph has to feel like a slap to Mopar owners, given what Dodge has been providing up to this point.
140 dont feels like 80 in these cars u sound like u dont or ever owned one its easy asf to get those speeds wat u think it was built for to cruise at 80?
@@mucleboy0151 I had a Charger Scat capable of 175 mph, but a public road is no place for that kind of speed. The average person on the road is not anticipating another car coming at them at anything near that speed, nor should they be. In my state, anyone caught doing over 85mph is classified as a super speeder, so get out the checkbook (or go to jail). Any non-emergency vehicle for street use that can go over 100 mph is overbuilt.
I have a 2020 Challenger RT 5.7 cammed tuned it has long tubes and some other goodies.I would never trade my RT for a 2025 Charger as it is now. I like the interior and the car is decent looking. I guess I'm just old school. I love going outside in the morning, and hearing that cold start. I would love to test drive one, i bet they are fun to drive.
All of this is very beguiling, but what no one is talking about is how the electric Dodge Chargers insurance is going to rise. Electric cars don’t take damage very well like gas cars do. If you hit an electric car, it can cost way more to repair it simply because the insurance company demands that the repairs be done up to their specifications. In some cases hitting an electric vehicle completely totals it, because the platform or the battery gets damaged and there’s no way to repair it safely. They don’t even bother replacing them. Most of y’all can’t afford your charger insurance right now. Add another hundred dollars to it.
My 2020 Charger Pursuit 5.7L Hemi AWD 5-speed can do 165 MPH* * I took the limiter off that was at 150MPH. The Hurricane I6 ICE AWD, yes, the EV hell no.
@Knockout360 Hey fam, imagine highway patrol buying these new electric Chargers. With all of that police equipment + the weight of the car + only going 135 mph. Trying to catch people speeding.....bruh its going to be a wrap for them, LOL 😂
Y’all know the reason why,y’all actually thought the government was going to continue allowing Dodge to make somewhat affordable sports cars to embarrass police? Not to mention that has also caused a rise in auto insurance for everyone in case y’all haven’t been paying attention and yes,everyone insurance has went up behind it
Back in the day, the Mopar muscle cars were not heavy and not expensive, a couple of their selling points. Ain't no telling what that 6k pound beast is going to cost. My buddy has a 69 RR 440 4 speed, cool car.
This new Charger with 4 people weighs as much as two 3rd gen Camaros. I work with a guy who has a Trackhawk and he took me for a ride. Yes it's very fun.