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@aduedc
@aduedc 2 года назад
Thanks for great clip. Tunnel diodes are quantum mechanical devices. The electrons tunnels through the barrier as the barrier become too thin, instead of going over it. Just like science fiction movies, that people and things go through wall. The tunneling speed is much faster than speed of light, and is almost infinity. So, it is fun to investigate it. To get a clean oscillation, you need to measure the negative R of tunnel diode and cancel it with almost the same amount of positive resistance. So, putting a low resistance pot and adjusting it to get a clean oscillation. Of course, I would put diode and tank and the pot all in parallel, instead of series as you have it here. Also, it might be a good idea to have a DC block capacitance between tunnel diode and the pot and tank. As you know, to get a microwave oscillation, you replace your C & L of the tank with pieces transmission line that intersect your main transmission line in a point like a bow tie or use some sort of resonant cavity. Also Tunnel diodes are very expensive and people use NPN transistors ( like 2n2222) backward ( ie. emitter to positive and collector to negative ) to get the similar effect. In this configuration as the depletion region in the base increases as a result of emitter to base biasing the base region gets smaller and smaller until the carriers can tunnel through the barriers. The reason for backward use of NPN transistors is that emitter region is doped much higher than the base region and therefore by backward biasing it almost all of the depletion region will extend in the base region and decrease the effective base thickness. Other negative resistance devices, such as IMPATT and GUNN Diodes, are fun to play with.
@PapasDino
@PapasDino 9 лет назад
Great video as usual Alan, amazing how little I know until you explain stuff! 73 - Dino KL0S
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 4 года назад
I'd be really interested in seeing you do a video on lambda diodes.
@jacobrandall4891
@jacobrandall4891 Год назад
thanks dude! Really well taught. As a low frequency power guy, I think these RF diodes are crazy interesting. I was thinking of ways to treat the diode as a variable attenuator. If you push more DC bias through the diode, does the RF insertion loss decrease?
@w2aew
@w2aew Год назад
Actually, what you're describing is really an application for PIN diodes, not tunnel diodes. Check out my video on PIN diodes...
@rohithkumar1688
@rohithkumar1688 4 года назад
This is how we should be taught at colleges. Thanks for the video, well explained
@helioshaul3924
@helioshaul3924 9 лет назад
That was the best instruction I have witnessed to date.
@christophernetherton9389
@christophernetherton9389 5 лет назад
Fully agree!
@1903A3shooter
@1903A3shooter 5 лет назад
THAT thing should be called a goofy junction.
@JackZimmermann
@JackZimmermann 6 лет назад
When I started with electronics, I said to myself that I would never work with RF. You, Sir have changed my mind with all your excellent videos. I keep going back to watch videos for ideas. Thanks a bunch!
@szaszafaja
@szaszafaja 5 лет назад
That is exactly what happened to me when I bumped into this channel. One of the best content creators on yt.
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 4 года назад
Yup, same. This channel got me much more interested in RF.
@brindusoinello
@brindusoinello 10 месяцев назад
Another excellent tutorial on this interesting topic. A big thank you for your passion and commitment. A friendly greeting from sunny Italy. Nello
@thomasdial8664
@thomasdial8664 6 месяцев назад
Google or duck duck go can be your friend: tunnel diode amplifier, tunnel diode oscillator. I have one somewhere, and this makes me want to dig it out and experiment a bit with it. Thanks.
@annaplojharova1400
@annaplojharova1400 8 месяцев назад
The tunnel diode speed is indeed practically limited onl by the circuit parasitics, but the speed of regular (I mean NPN or so; you still need a hf type) modern transistors is so the real life limitation is also just in the parasitics, so bottom line about the same. That means you can make a negative resistance using a pair of such high frequency transistors (and their bias source) and you end up with very similar performance. On top of that, unlike the real tunnel diode, the key parameters of the transistor pair based negative resistance (mainly the slope and the peak/valley flip currents) are extremely well predictable and controllable (you just need to know the bias current and the temperature, literally nothing else), so consequently these become way more predictable and stable in a real circuit. That is the reason why tunnel diodes are a thing of the past for vast majority of the applications. And because transistors are easy to integrate, the transistor pair negative resistance is a structure is used practically everywhere in modern radio and many analog circuits (oscillators, Q-boosters for on chip LC resonator tanks, synchronous clocked comparators in AD converters, gain boosters in low power opamps and comparators,...)
@ДмитрийРассказов-ц7й
Благодарю за сюжет.Вопрос-а снять характеристику на осциллографе получится?
@SuperFredAZ
@SuperFredAZ 7 месяцев назад
I have worked in RF engineering over 50 years designing varactor tuned rf front ends for television receivers. We heard about tunnel diodes in the 60s, but no one ever came up up with a good, cost-effective use for them.
@w2aew
@w2aew 7 месяцев назад
The only place I’d seen them used is in the trigger circuits on old Tek scopes
@OlegMazurov
@OlegMazurov 9 лет назад
Tunnel diodes are awesome. There is plenty of Russian ones still available, they are good but the current is low.
@yoramstein
@yoramstein 5 лет назад
Low current can be amplified. Life is not easy.
@pramodsinghyadav7580
@pramodsinghyadav7580 6 лет назад
amazing man !!!! I got to know a lot about tunnel diode and that to in a practical way.
@luisdalbianco3920
@luisdalbianco3920 5 лет назад
What diode tunnel do you use? Tenkius. LU3UAE
@11zekim
@11zekim 9 лет назад
Great tutorial Alan, and my favorite "lost art" subject, too. Thanks! Maybe worth noting that these magical things are no longer made, so parts like your test subject are rare and possibly quite expensive. These days the best way to experiment is to source old-stock Russian tunnel diodes on eBay.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 11 месяцев назад
Well, a company named American Microsemiconductor seems to be in the business of making tunnel diodes, although they are a bit pricey ... but if one TD gets a piece of test equipment operational again, one hundred US$ might be worth it!
@docaliquot4189
@docaliquot4189 2 года назад
Thanks for a great trip down memory lane, Alan! As a budding ham and EE back in the late 60's, Dr. Esaki's little wunderkind fascinated me. Actually built several gizmos around the GE 1N2939....a 100 kHz. crystal calibrator, 2 M foxhunt transmitter, and a Heathkit Tunnel Dip Oscillator (which still sits on my shop shelf, working to this day!).Often thought what a great electronic countermeasures device a tunnel diode would be, with it's harmonic-rich output coupled to a broadband, high power GaNi amplifier. ;>)
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 11 месяцев назад
Wow. American Semi wants US 99 each for the 1N2939 TD today.
@ocayaro
@ocayaro 9 лет назад
EEVBlog's Dave Jones should be grateful you subscribe to him. I see your ruler.
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Electro I'd like to have his popularlity! He's got >10x the subscribers than me!
@ProfRichardOOcaya
@ProfRichardOOcaya 9 лет назад
He's loud and calls everyone a yank. I'd rather be here any day.
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Dr R. Ocaya Thank you!
@sayantanmaiti2513
@sayantanmaiti2513 6 лет назад
What is the part number of this tunnel diode you're using???
@justinle998
@justinle998 8 лет назад
I love your videos... Great content. Very clear and good pace. Props!!
@PaulKnittle
@PaulKnittle 2 месяца назад
Nice driver for a laser diode.
@Cyrob-org
@Cyrob-org 9 лет назад
Clear and simple as always, thanks
@Radiowild
@Radiowild 9 лет назад
Great video! Funny thing is, there is a question about tunnel diodes in the current "extra" exam question pool. Never really given them much thought due to their applications. I never really given them much thought. You did an excellent job showing just how they react.
@BMRStudio
@BMRStudio 9 лет назад
Again a nice video! Thx a lot! Paper and pencil always the best:) I think this diode also good for peak detection with sample and hold circuit.
@SalamanderDancer
@SalamanderDancer 3 года назад
Any chance you could draw the IV curve either with a scope in XY mode (with a current probe or transimpedance amp) or with an SMU?
@yoramstein
@yoramstein 4 года назад
Hello Alan. Years ago I came across Unijunction transistor which had also a negative region in its characteristic like the tunnel diode. Can you explain what is the function of the third "foot" and what circuits was it used for?
@CH_Pechiar
@CH_Pechiar 9 лет назад
Superb as usual. I could be useful if you write on the notes used during the video the episode number so as to have a quick reference between the document and the video. Maybe in the filename or maybe just handwritten on the papers. Thanks as usual. CH!
@copernicofelinis
@copernicofelinis 4 года назад
Well, that's totally unexpected! After only little more than five years, the links to the tekwiki documentation are all dead. Have they been transferred somewhere else or are they gone for good?
@w2aew
@w2aew 4 года назад
I fixed the tekwiki links.
@copernicofelinis
@copernicofelinis 4 года назад
@@w2aew thanks! Firing up my downloader!!!
@cny02253
@cny02253 9 лет назад
Outstanding Alan! Especially the links. (I have 500 and 400 series Tek scopes!) I had thought of suggesting this topic, then thought -"nah, too niche" -LOL!
@manishsharma7
@manishsharma7 2 года назад
That's really old looking retro pad!
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 года назад
Yep, that clipboard is probably more than 50 or 60 yrs old - it belonged to my late uncle.
@omsingharjit
@omsingharjit 2 года назад
Whenever you Explain Doing Things practical it's Awesome to watch That what you just Teach Before .
@jimmyjewell2195
@jimmyjewell2195 Год назад
Isn't the oscillation from.the power supply trying to maintain voltage regulation?
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 11 месяцев назад
WHY don't presenters (this includes textbooks) 'shade out' that negative resistance region!!?? You will never see that 'region' on a curve tracer nor will you see it* using using slowly stepped manual meters and potentiometers ... I think it does a disservice to 'gloss over' this aspect of Tunnel Diode behavior. * Outside of the device oscillating, giving the impression it is in that region, as you demonstrated.
@DAVET38
@DAVET38 8 лет назад
Another great video Alan. Thanks for such a clear explanation.
@DavePKW
@DavePKW 6 лет назад
Alan, I sure am glad I discovered your treasure trove of videos. You do such a wonderful job. Thank you.
@BryanByTheSea
@BryanByTheSea 9 лет назад
Excellent and informative as usual. Keep them coming.
@qwaqwa1960
@qwaqwa1960 9 лет назад
Might that be an HP-15c in the shot...? :-)
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Yes, of coarse!
@nityanandadas5575
@nityanandadas5575 Год назад
Excellent. Really enjoy this. Is there any way to visualize the I V curve of tunnel diode in Scope ?
@silvergmc
@silvergmc 9 лет назад
Excellent video! I always learn a lot, keep up the great work!
@michaelrockinger
@michaelrockinger 3 года назад
excellent video. now the hunt for tunnel diodes begins. nothing at the usual suspects: mouser, reichelt,...
@ingussilins6330
@ingussilins6330 7 месяцев назад
Similar curve can get from P channel and N channel field effect transistors ( lamda diode ).
@AmanNidhi
@AmanNidhi 9 лет назад
thanks for the tutorial !! enjoy all your videos
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 9 лет назад
Nice job Alan. Thanks.
@scarpaz
@scarpaz 8 лет назад
Great video, great explanation. Thanks for making it.
@RandyUpchurch
@RandyUpchurch 9 лет назад
Excellent presentation. Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate how the tunnel diode works along with some applications. Randy, N4NOM
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Randy Upchurch Thank you, and you're welcome. I hope you enjoy my other videos too.
@warunakumara7671
@warunakumara7671 Год назад
teach us how to calculate the biasing resistor values to bias it in the negative resistor region and act as a oscillator
@kd5ozy
@kd5ozy 9 лет назад
Have not thought about those in a while. Refreshing!
@64etto
@64etto 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vdr50IGM0g8.html. Perfetto prova con un diodo a baffo di gatto Germanio Tungsteno
@ldandco
@ldandco 8 лет назад
Finally an explanation of Tunnel Diodes in actual (good) English that is understandable. Yours should be the first option to come out when doing a search for Tunnel Diodes on youtube. Unfortunately it is not.
@w2aew
@w2aew 8 лет назад
+ldandco I suppose the more thumbs-up and views it gets, the higher it will appear on Google...
@ebayscopeman
@ebayscopeman Месяц назад
Alan the third link appears to be 404. Do you by any chance have a copy of it? Sam W3OHM
@w2aew
@w2aew 29 дней назад
Sorry - I don't have a copy of it.
@mohdnasir5140
@mohdnasir5140 Год назад
Page 76 AU (Astron) = Abbrev for astronomical unit. AU diode (Electronics) = See backward diode.
@mohdnasir5140
@mohdnasir5140 Год назад
Page 330 diode (Electronics) = (1) Simplest electron tube, with a cathode and anode; used because of undirectional and hence rectification properties. (2) Semiconductor device with similar properties, evolved from primitive crystal rectifiers for radio reception.
@TruthWillSF
@TruthWillSF 3 года назад
10:21 - 11:49 ❤️
@asunasposibol
@asunasposibol 3 года назад
Could this be used for a time domain reflectometer?
@wagnerguilherme129
@wagnerguilherme129 9 лет назад
+++++ !! 73 de PY2RPD Wagner
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797 9 лет назад
Great video, plenty information, but not too much for one take. Thanks to You, now I know what that tunnel diode exactly doing in my scope. :)
@yifeipei1862
@yifeipei1862 2 года назад
What is the model of tunnel diode used?
@hongbinbin24
@hongbinbin24 3 года назад
Thanks a lot! It is helpful.
@davidharper1152
@davidharper1152 2 года назад
Wow... an HP-15C sitting in the background... Nice
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 года назад
Still my daily go-to calculator.
@Brian_Of_Melbourne
@Brian_Of_Melbourne 2 года назад
Hi Alan, I just found out about something called a "Shockley Diode". It has a similar IV curve to the tunnel diode. Perhaps it would make a good subject for a future video?
@tardate
@tardate 8 лет назад
@w2aew I was remembering this video while exploring the "Esaki Effect" to make the @boldport club project #2 blink ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PPUZth8RfCE.html). Thanks for continuing to produce great content - I always looks out for the next "circuit basics"!
@Kennynva
@Kennynva 6 лет назад
Looks similar to a crystal, like the 455 khz one in my Hallicrafters...in the alignment you adjust the coil to the dip in the crystal...or the center of the crystal..
@BasilBadger
@BasilBadger 4 года назад
My electronics teacher in 8th grade showed us a circuit made from a few transistors which behaved like a tunnel diode. Does anyone have such a diagram?
@w2aew
@w2aew 4 года назад
You're likely thinking of a lamda diode circuit - see here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_diode
@yoramstein
@yoramstein 5 лет назад
Hello Allen great video. I have seen in many Tektronix scopes that 2 tunnel diodes were used as Triger switch. Can you (will you) explain in a video who they did the work. (pre firing, firing, biasing as triggers are set to differend levels)?
@Luzt.
@Luzt. 4 года назад
Superb! If YT had been available in the 70's and 80's you would have been a star, Sir! (and I used to say 3rd conditional is of no practical use ;-)
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 5 лет назад
I used to wonder why they don't use tunnel diodes in microwave applications. But I guess they don't really operate at a very high power, especially compared to a cavity magnetron, do they? This channel's great. It's been getting me more into RF stuff. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make these. Cheers.
@stevenbliss989
@stevenbliss989 9 месяцев назад
Great lecture as always, THANK YOU! btw, CRAZY diode! :)
@despiertagab
@despiertagab 8 лет назад
IIRC, tunnel diode reverse current is quadratic, not like a little resistor. That's used for RMS measurement with backwards diodes. Great tutorial!
@xiaominglu9814
@xiaominglu9814 4 года назад
Can you please explain how the current source circuit in your video actually works? I cannot understand why this is a so called current source? Thanks
@w2aew
@w2aew 4 года назад
The two diodes set up a fixed voltage on the base of the transistor, which puts a fixed voltage across the 100ohm emitter resistor. A fixed voltage across a resistor results in a fixed current. Since the emitter current and collector current are virtually the same, the collector becomes a source of a fixed current - thus a current source. Check out my video on current sources: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xR0RfmmRhDw.html
@lidarman2
@lidarman2 4 года назад
With resources like you, there is no excuse for EE students not to excel in school. Well done.
@cekpi7
@cekpi7 4 года назад
Unless you are lazy
@kd5ozy
@kd5ozy 9 лет назад
Very nice. Thank you
@L2.Lagrange
@L2.Lagrange Год назад
7:21 Do you happen to remember the frequency of that oscillation?
@w2aew
@w2aew Год назад
I don't recall, but will say that the oscillation frequency will be highly dependent upon the parasitic inductance and capacitance of the connected equipment.
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 5 лет назад
Great video. I'm fascinated by negative resistance devices. It'd be great if you could cover lambda diodes. I found out about them recently and ordered some P channel JFETs so I could play with them.
@Max-eo6vx
@Max-eo6vx 4 года назад
Unbelievable instructions
@eidahmed26
@eidahmed26 8 лет назад
very nice work ..... thank you very much you make understanding of rtd very simple is the diode you used in the experiment has a data sheet
@Kennynva
@Kennynva 6 лет назад
Does the frequency change this dip, or just the amps...
@mihajlopetkovic2003
@mihajlopetkovic2003 3 года назад
Why do we have two diodes in the second circuit which are connected across the 12 V and the base of the transistor?
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 года назад
It is just to setup a bias voltage on the base of the transistor that is a fixed ~1.4V below the 12V rail, which puts a fixed ~0.7V across the emitter resistor, which in turn makes the transistor source a constant current.
@mikeleo9463
@mikeleo9463 6 лет назад
A question,are tunnel diodes sensitive to static electricity?It seems that their PN junctions are very delicate.
@hubercats
@hubercats 3 года назад
Another excellent tutorial. I especially appreciate seeing how you use simple instrumentation to perform basic device characterization (I.e., tracing the I vs. V curve). Thanks very much for making and sharing this tutorial.
@dmitry926
@dmitry926 4 года назад
What is the cause of the oscillations when only the tunnel diode is connected to the circuit?
@w2aew
@w2aew 4 года назад
Many circuits become unstable with a negative resistance. Normally, when the the voltage across a decreases, the current drawn also decreases. This device has a negative resistance region - when the voltage decreases the current increases and vice versa. This leads to instability in many circuits.
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 9 лет назад
I really enjoyed this video. The tunnel diode is a lot more interesting than I would have thought.
@a1fliema1fie
@a1fliema1fie 9 лет назад
Do they have a use in modern circuit design or are they now a historical curiosity?
@miketoreno4969
@miketoreno4969 4 года назад
Can you do please sir a video about the lambda diode or about the impatt diode.
@w2aew
@w2aew 4 года назад
It's on my loooooong list of future topics...
@keefebaby
@keefebaby 3 года назад
I pronounce zener as zener
@mikeleo9463
@mikeleo9463 6 лет назад
Good explanation and good instruments.Thanks a lot.
@kafr8413
@kafr8413 3 года назад
What specific diode were you using for your testing?
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 года назад
These were some Tektronix house-numbered parts - so I don't know the original manufacturer part number.
@TheHuesSciTech
@TheHuesSciTech 9 лет назад
Where do you buy tunnel diodes from? I searched Digikey for Esaki and Tunnel diodes, and came up blank?
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
TheHue's SciTech They are difficult to find these days. However you can often find surplus or new old stock on Ebay. There are a few specialty semiconductor houses that will still make them, but they won't be cheap! njsemi.com/parts/?search=1n2927 download.njsemi.com/1N2927,A%20-%201N2934,A.pdf www.advancedsemiconductor.com/pdf/1n2927.pdf
@eeramzi
@eeramzi 9 лет назад
Great video as always, I never understand it until now. Many thanks.
@JustSomeGuy1967
@JustSomeGuy1967 9 лет назад
Your videos are fantastic ! thanks
@RuCioLeK85
@RuCioLeK85 3 года назад
I would like to present the work of the Gunn diode ;)
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 года назад
If I ever get any to play with, I will.
@derf23437
@derf23437 9 лет назад
I really enjoy your video's, they are very informative. But what hardware (sockets) do you use to plug components into? I would like to get some for when I am experimenting. Thanks again and keep up the wonderful video's. 73's WK4DX
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Fred Henderson They are pin sockets made by Mill Max. I bought them through Mouser. They have dozens of sizes and styles, so you'll have to decide which work best for you. Here's the Mouser catalog pages: www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogusd/647/1848.pdf www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogusd/647/1849.pdf
@ancelb9590
@ancelb9590 9 лет назад
At 14:09, w2aew states High Impedance at the tank circuit's frequency, shouldn't that be low impedance?
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
An LC parallel tank circuit at resonance does indeed have a high impedance. This video explains the details: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hqhV50852jA.html
@vhm14u2c
@vhm14u2c 6 лет назад
I have not encountered one of them yet, AFAIK, but I’m ok with that. Since I didn’t know they existed, if I didn’t have a schematic, I would have questioned the validity of the diode, but your explanation gave a new outlook in case I came across one of those.
@w2aew
@w2aew 6 лет назад
Not a very common device, especially these days, but certainly unique.
@PerchEagle
@PerchEagle 5 лет назад
Really nice video .. I really enjoyed it.
@rezokobaidze8501
@rezokobaidze8501 4 года назад
thanks a lot
@Kamtar34
@Kamtar34 9 лет назад
Great, I think that with your talent some video for total begginers would be nice too. You know just some fast sum-up of A,V,R,L,C and diodes. I wanted some video which would give some basic idea and motivation to study it more for few friends which knows only ohm's law but i found nothing.
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
Tomáš Polišenský I'll certainly consider doing some very basic videos.
@jspencerg
@jspencerg 2 года назад
This is second try and second failure in accessing show notes. I'll try it on browser RU-vid. Thanks for including the references.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 года назад
Works with Chrome here. What platform were you using that failed?
@jspencerg
@jspencerg 2 года назад
@w2aew Hello, Android RU-vid app would not view your notes. Used android Chrome browser. Worked fine. Thanks again for excellent lessons.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 года назад
@@jspencerg Not sure why, they're just PDF files. Maybe the Android app doesn't like the long URL.
@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 6 лет назад
You are an awesome teacher. But for some reason this one just isnt processing in my brain lol
@w2aew
@w2aew 6 лет назад
They are very tricky devices.
@jtb8631
@jtb8631 4 года назад
Fascinating
@royvanstraeten3215
@royvanstraeten3215 4 года назад
Again a great explination...thanks
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