"seems odd you'd name you ship after a battle you were on the wrong side of" "May have been the losing side ...still not convinced it was the wrong one"
Anti-Federalist 1776 You mean traitors? Like the kind we don’t allow burial at Arlington? The Rule of Law is NOT anarcho-tyranny. Y’know what is? When an aristocratic 5% of the population decides Law doesn’t apply to them if it impacts their personal wealth and convinces the Other 95%- very people that their aristocracy keeps poor by making labor worthless- into fighting an dying without telling them they are fighting for the right of the 5% to own everything.
Anti-Federalist 1776 The Confederacy was still fighting for the state’s right to keep slavery which was ultimately being pushed to be abolished by the Union and they lost. You’re arguing for the sake of dead men and nobody is on your side here except ignorant yokels. Now calm down and walk it off. You seem educated but lack the maturity to quit while you’re behind.
Anti-Federalist 1776 Lying ain’t an argument. Lincoln would never have signed anything making slavery a “right”- he was a republican- a party FOUNDED on abolishing slavery. And actually- it was the confederates who fired upon and seized federal lands. The federal government can not “invade” its own territory. The constitution is really clear on this- The federal government is REQUIRED to defend the union against all threats foreign and domestic. Number two- secession was predicated upon the idea that if you don’t LIKE a law that gets passed, if you don’t LIKE the outcome of an election, that its perfectly okay to simply decide you aren’t held by the rule of law. That is philosophically imbecilic position. It makes Lawful government impossible. The rule of law is the rule of law and the South had EXACTlY the same rights as every other state. (The Declaration of Independence specifies that you can revolt if your government is NOT according you equal treatment of all other subjects... the south had no such complaint. ) Last of all- the South was making a self defeating argument. They were saying that the North had NO RIGHT to limit the rights of the Southern States... So that they could preserve Their right to limit the rights of slaves. Ergo- if the North had not right to preserve the union, then the South had no right to hold people as slaves. If They had the right to hold slaves, then governments DO have the right to limits the rights of the people. Period. The South was stupid. And Slavery and Jim Crow actually Impoverished them. The South Still suffers endemic poverty because slave economies are aristocratic exconomies that only benefit 5% of the people who live in them. They lost because wage paying economies out-produce slave economies ten to one. The fact is that the war was predicated upon weak rationales by the ruling class of the South to try and preserve Their personal income streams, which depended on slave labor. And it was fought by dirt poor farm boys who were fighting to be sure that there was at least one group of people who were lower than they were on the social totem pole. There was NO grand argument- no noble struggle for Rights they happily denied a third of their population. And if you don’t LIKE the Government of the people, by the people and for the people, you can pull up stakes and enjoy the wild freedom of Somalia.
@@Elthenar Lucas: "I felt like it was too immoral for Han to shoot someone first even though that person had clearly shown his intent to kill him." Mal: "Good!"
@@Elthenar 70's George Lucas produced a cut of Star Wars that was completely unwatchable. His then-wife Marcia saved it. George responded by pettily using all his power to deprive her of her deserved credit. Think you might wanna look elsewhere. Also, compared to Mal, Solo's a punk.
"Faster! Faster!! FASTER WOULD BE BETTER!! "Remember, if anything happens to me or you don't hear from me within the hour, you take this ship... and you come rescue me."
#3 is a perfect example of what made this show great. Mal was so unequivocally human. He didn't always have a snappy comeback or a great one-liner. He got caught offguard, he got hurt, he was human, and that made the show great.
If you had made it about the quotes AND their context, you would have needed to include Mal sitting naked on a rock in the middle of nowhere, opining, "Yep. That went well."
It did. They got the laser and left Christina Hendricks in a cargo container in the middle of the desert. Which doesn't sound all that good but murderous sociopath.
I believe that Alan Tudyk's career was made on the fact that he would look nowhere but straight into Mal's eyes and smile for that whole scene. I still laugh thinking about it.
Interesting, the quote that really sticks with me (and which doesn't appear in this list) is Mal's reply to the Sheriff in The Train Job when the Sheriff says "When a man learns all the details of a situation like ours, well, then he has a choice". Mal's simple reply "I don't believe he does" is probably his most powerful line in the whole series for me. I still look out for it every time I re-watch the show. That scene is just flawlessly written and acted, and it's amazing how much they were able to say about Mal's character in so few words.
If only Firefly was on Netflix. Joss Whedon is unequaled in his ability to write smart, realistic, and funny dialogue, and Nathan Fillion is the ultimate roguish suave man-child.
Totally agree! If shows like Daredevil and Stranger Things can do it, why shouldn't this one have a shot?? The cast would be a little older, but that would be fine as long as they can still play the characters!!! There are so many story threads to pick up now, and places to go with it!
One of my favorites is after they've delivered the cattle, and River is interacting with them, and Mal comments about her finally paying attention to them. Then River goes off on that flighty, new-age line about the cows, and how when they were on the ship they forgot who they were, but now they remember and so she can see them. And Mal looks over at one of the others, and says something like "Should I be worried that that statement actually made sense to me?" xD Loved that line.
It's crazy too because many media that followed it, used Firefly as inspiration. Firefly basically spawned the traditional space western genre. Star Wars: A New Hope has some of the same tropes, but I will always regard Firefly as the origin.
They tried to kill it from out the gate by giving it a bad time slot and airing the episodes out of order. Some big wig had a pickle up his butt about this show. And we're not talking a baby gherkin it was one of those giant gas station pickles.
Many of my favorite Mal Reynolds quotes are in the episode "Safe". Including: Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us? Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir. Mal: Ain't we just.
"May have been on the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one" " You turn on any of my crew you turn on me. You did it to me Jayne. And that's a fact."
This may not merit addition to a 'best of' list, but I love what he says when he's about to fall asleep after the crew returns at the end of "Out of Gas". As he is about to drift off, he turns back and asks: Mal: "You all gonna be here when I wake up?" Shepherd - "We'll be here." Mal: "Good... that's good." That's the closest the character ever comes, to saying how much he cares about his crew. His actions show it, but he doesn't talk about it...
I always, alyways crack up at that point...Mal's reaction is just the icing on the cake "this is the captain, we have a...little problem with our entry sequence..." Gets really confusing when you try to read the subtitles..."this is the capital..." *headbang* *facepalm*
like a brilliant statue built to stand the test of time, Firefly is perfect and can never be improved. i no longer pine for more; the actors are too old and too different. love to all those who made Firefly and Serenity what it was and always will be.
Well, they CAN pick up a few years after the happening of Serenity. Would explain a bit older crew, and we'd get the end of the main story that was intended. Don't get me wrong, Serenity gave it a nice closure. But if they wanted to make more, they could. And 2018-2019 might be a good time for that. Certainly, the more they wait, the harder it gets. But to be honest, Firefly is a fond memory so nothing they make would make you feel the same as the original run. Even if it is better in quality and writing. Simply, those episodes stand on their own and in our minds they are somewhat sacred. So they CAN make more and they CAN make it as good or even better - but the audience will never accept it on the level that the original run was. It has created a cult.
"I don't know, I can stand to hear a little more" - Jayne Also, I would gladly love to see a remake of the show with staring Alan tudyk playing all cast and crew...including the spear.
Anti-Federalist 1776 . Late entry here but in no way is Mal analogous to a confederate. They fought to maintain slavery, the antithesis of what the brown coats fought for.
My favorite is the last interaction with Our Mrs. Reynolds: You got all kinds a' learnin' and you made me look the fool without trying, yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me, people who trust each other, who do for each other and ain't always looking for the advantage. There's good people in the 'verse. Not many, lord knows, but you only need a few.
"I did the job. I've got nothing but trouble since I've done it, not to mention a few unkind words as regard to my character, so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job...and I get paid." "They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I AIM to misbehave." Two of the best Malcolm Reynolds quotes ever.
Love The Logic of that line... She's Ours! :-) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VYeqDD96gLg.html Cut her the hell down. 'It's His will you really should worry about thwarting...' another good one.
Deb Carsey Too late. Technically he is in the MCU...as a actor named Simon Williams.....who became a superhero, Wonder Man. No I'm not kidding. Though the material was cut.
I always liked the scene in "War Stories" in which he tells Wash about wanting to sleep with Zoe. You could tell he didn't mean it, he was just doing it to keep Wash conscious--and alive. Make no mistake, Mal was hurting too, but his concern was more for Wash than himself. I think that is what inspired such loyalty from the others--his loyalty to them.
Kind of a geek. Favorite quote, Mal: "Got here just in the knick of time. What's that make us, Zoe?" Zoe: "Big damn heroes, sir." Mal: "Ain't we just?" Favorite quote from Star Wars, Han: "How're we doing?" Luke: "Same as always." Han: "That bad, huh?"
My favorite has ALWAYS been #11. Really wish it had had the rest of it where he kicks the lacky into the engine then repeats the line to the next guy. :)
I have a favorite. “I’m not leaving Serenity.” He once mentioned how some people get trapped in their worst moments and it and the following line shows how he hasn’t really left that valley in some ways. He really is still a Sargent, a man of honor in a den of thieves. I love out of gas and I love firefly. I love how the last we see of him he’s showing growth. Gaining faith in thing outside his ship being worth fighting and dying for. It’s a gorram shame we never got more but I can’t complain about what we got.
I remember seeing in a webcomic once where they theorized the problem was that Joss pitched the series to Fox wrong. He likely tried to sell them on the idea of a unique scifi setting and theme with relatable characters. And thus the show was cancelled before the paint on the set dried. Where as if he'd of pitched it to them as 'cowboys and hookers in space' we'd be looking at the forth spinoff by now.
Thankfully the last one is in there. Had you left off "I aim to misbehave" there would've been a riot. (Maybe a one man riot, but trust me, there would be a riot)
I'm not gonna lie, those parenthesis are a very Malcolm Reynolds thing to say, and I'm here for it. So long as Firefly is remembered, you will never riot alone.
Everyone and anyone, that was somebody and nobody, stacked the deck of cards so high, against Firefly, that the show never had a chance in hell! One of the most underrated, unappreciated, and piss-poor mismanaged TV shows in history!
I frickin love this show. Its a shame it got cancelled too early. Nathan Fillion mourns its end till this day. He once said that he broke the cardinals rule to never fall in love with a particular show you do. That hits deep in the feels. 😢
Was directed here from the RU-vid "related" bar. Was not ready for #2, I cry every time I see that scene. Just those 20 seconds had the tears welling up...
Great quotes. But my favorite is one that I live by...keeps the scumbags at bay: Mal to Simon in Serenity: I take care of me and my own. That don't include you unless I conjure otherwise.
I can't watch Firefly stuff any more ... It just makes me mad that the show was treated like a red-headed stepchild. I just end up sitting on the floor, banging my head against a wall, crying and fighting the Cheyne-Stokes.
Okay, for all that was wrong with how FOX treated Firefly: What is wrong with red-headed stepchildren? I mean, that's not one, but two circumstances the person is question can do nothing about. Treating a red-headed stepchild wrong is about as shameful as cancelling Firefly - plus whatever wrong was done to River.
‘good bible’ Wins it for me. Brilliant stuff, and over too soon. The entire series was rich with excellent quotables. I know Mal gets most of the limelight, but Jayne had some cracking lines too. I wonder if those guys miss Serenity?