22 Days On DC Hot Water Heater (Update) Living Off The Grid

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@homesteadhomie7855 8 лет назад

Put a blanket or 2 around the heater. Insulate it more. Also I use a timer on my hot water tank. It comes on in the morning @04:30 to 05:30. 1 hr is all it runs everyday. I have hot water all day and night when needed. My tank is bigger than yours, but I am sure you can figure out how long to run yours for the hot water you need. Maybe have it come on in the morning for an hr, and then back on at night for an hr. I paid $47 for my timer and I love it!!!

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Hello buddy my hot water heater tank is DC and Is my dump load from my solar and wind turbines check out my build vids. So it only heats when my home is fully charged and then it will dump into the heater. DC heater not AC. If i wrap my tank it will hold the heat in alot better. Thanks for your comments, Hope all is well.

@helotesareacommunityband9126 6 лет назад

Take your shower in the evening before bed. Keeps your bed clean longer too.

@hellcat1988 3 года назад

I know I'm late to the party, but if you plumb the electric water heater in series before the gas water heater, you'll get the best of both, since the propane heater won't have to run as much.

@sweetnessdone8906 8 лет назад

dude ! reduce your water pressure on your domestic hot water system , perhaps install a 3 rd pex line and create a recirc line insulate the tank and lines bundle all 3 in a insulated covering and do move the house closer to the tank.

@MattSyTy 4 года назад

Consider adding a small 19-40gal propane water heater tank after your solar heater. You could have consistently hot 120+ deg water for not much money over time. Try the insulation first, but this is the permanent way to go.

@ronb6182 11 месяцев назад

I got rid of my tank and started using an RV instantaneous water heater instead the water is very hot you must add cold water. And you must take less than 20 minute showers because the unit cuts out the gas until it cools down. I thought about putting the hot water side into a 40 gallon tank and storing the heated water. Then you could add cold water at the shower. I know some will ask why not just buy a propane water tank. They are more expensive and to save gas I would want it off. The instantaneous water heater would only come on in demand that's the key. 73

@knowledgeshortvideos 2 года назад

Can you use the same pv panels for the dc element and the inverter?

@stijndebock5752 Год назад

Add more insulation...easy !

@JayHughart 7 лет назад

I used a kit that had reflectex Its like mylar bubble wrap. get some and wrap it around three laters. Put a door on your shed and get a low flow 1.5 gpm shower head (Niagara N2915CH 1.5 GPM Chrome Shower Head) ebay 8 bucks. Put a door on the shed too. What works marginally in summer will almost not work at all in winter.

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+Jay Hughart Thanks for your input

@rlgonion 7 лет назад

well how about making it an enclosed area by making a new wall with a door

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+rlgonion check out the new videos

@bigfoot1307 8 лет назад

might try a hot water tank blanket

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

That's the plan I will post an update when i do. Thanks

@barneymerrill3188 8 лет назад

Made a correction from last post: What you could use is a water flow meter.....check out Amazon: www.amazon.com/Flowmeters/b?ie=UTF8&node=3206433011

@96MustangBoy1 8 лет назад

As far as the shower head goes, Ace Hardware Store has the water saver shower head. I have one and it works great.

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Thats nice to know I will take a look next time i am there. Hope all is well buddy.

@hopefullyitgetsbetter 3 года назад

Take a navy shower wet down shut it off soap up rince off

@CharlesGwinn-ep9pb 5 дней назад

Solar charge lifepo4 batteries and have them dump into the heating element in the morning right before shower time.....Call me crazy.

@MasteRij0 7 лет назад

Basically if you dont have any heating during night temps will go down.

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+MasteRij0 I wrapped the tank so heat loss is minimal now.

@jonleone777 3 года назад

Put a hot water heater blanket on the tank.

@maynard832 6 лет назад

so put an insulation blanket on it.

@maxhowe4372 3 года назад

Yes, they make them for water heaters.

@GrecoLoscar 5 лет назад

Hi, You have some video explaining how to do it

@ModernOffGridDIY 5 лет назад

I have all new videos all the I installed al new setup for my new off grid home look in my playlist

@richpalmisano1740 7 лет назад

make a closet for your water heater and insulate it...done.

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+Rich Palmisano check out my newer videos

@evmocean 8 лет назад

hi ya id thought id add my own bit of advise for ya but im just wondering if you have any rockwool slab lying around you could build a temporary box around it using u shaped wire pins to hold it together but also, im just wondering if system refills after use this maybe why yr losing so much heat in the night but it is open to the elements so to many variables...plus lowering yr cut off point by 0.2v could help, you are running lead after all..

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

lots of variables for sure, I will wrap the tank really good and that should help hold most of the heat in, Once I move this heater to my new off grid home it will be in a room and wrapped it should have no problem keeping it hot. Thats why i like testing things it really helps to work out any bugs. Thanks for your comment and support

@evmocean 8 лет назад

you also have to consider the refill aspect as well 7 gallons of hot comes out so 7 gallons of cold go in, and nothing to heat it you could try not having a shower at night see what temp it is before ya go to sleep and when ya wake up, a scummy test i know but its still a test

@mazdarx7887 7 лет назад

hehehe, Basically, your hot water tank is outside in the cold. Move it inside or put it in a well insulated box. and you lose lots of heat through the pipes. Just move it inside and solve lots of problems

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+Mazda rx7 please check out the other videos. The tank is wrapped and water stays nice and hot.

@mazdarx7887 7 лет назад

Guess you didn't watch the vid, he clearly complains/comments about the heat loss, therefore there isn't enough or proper insulation

@mazdarx7887 7 лет назад

And if he's not concerned about the heat lost, why does he mention it so many time, unless he just like to hear himself speak about the same thing over and over again

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

you clearly did not watch all the videos, so you are speaking out of turn. The tank is wrapped and water stays nice and hot.

@mazdarx7887 7 лет назад

But losing heat as stated in the vid and making a big deal over it

@oldtimeengineer26 8 лет назад

Well all I can say is I put two of theses in my house www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SCALZSG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I am not really off grid but I am on a well so I try to conserve water as much as possible. The one above does have a water saver plug in it and it does an ok job it is plastic but hey it has been working. Yes if the tank is outside you should wrap it even in my basement my tank is wrapped my basement is not heated and gets down to like 60 deg F good luck.

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Thanks buddy I will take a look at it. yah Im going to wrap it, it just makes more sense to help hold more heat in. Thanks for sharing. Hope all is well

@solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473 5 лет назад

What is that what is that inverter four

@ModernOffGridDIY 5 лет назад

To power the small off grid cabin. Check out my new home 60v Tesla System. My new home has solar water heating. I have many videos on all this.

@edchaos2679 6 лет назад

Hopefully he realized his water lines are just wide open on the ground at night. he should insulate those.

@ModernOffGridDIY 6 лет назад

This was a test for the New off grid home my building right now check all the the new vids. Also I live in Hawaii and we dont insulate pipes becuase we dont need to. Check out the new Off grid home and you will see.

@thevikingwolfpack836 8 лет назад

put a hot water heater blanket around it

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Yep Thats the plan help keep more of the heat in.

@barneymerrill3188 8 лет назад

Last correction: Here's the part I'm talking about: SHWRHD OXYGN 5SPRY HH BN by OXYGENICS MfrPartNo 88446

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Thanks for your insight I am looking into all ideas for sure.

@jimmyneighbors4943 Год назад

More insulation

@peeinginthewind 7 месяцев назад

link to elelment ?

@chadwolfeschledgelsteinhau9697 Год назад

Put it in yo house

@solarpowerelectricityandel2915 8 лет назад

use 3" fiber glass duct work wrap

@solarpowerelectricityandel2915 8 лет назад

stand the tank on (4) 3" pvc coupling connectors and stuff inulation under it too cover it every where and both pipes good best of luck

@solarpowerelectricityandel2915 8 лет назад

I have a shower head I love it 2.0 gallon per minute and that was the lowest I could find here

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

All very good ideas for sure, when I move this heater to my new off gird home I will wrap the bottom.

@davidsallee1865 7 лет назад

Na guys lol he need a blocking diode

@johnpuccetti9383 7 лет назад

If water is not 120 degrees or higher you risk getting legionaries disease.

@mikeorjimmy2885 7 лет назад

That's only for water that is used in an air heating system or the condensation of an AC unit, not for a hot water heater. If that was the case they wouldn't let you set the temperature lower than 120 degrees. My tankless water system can not be set any higher than 120.

@nrodge1 7 лет назад

Mine is at 148F regularly, 750W of panels, 50 gals. Videos on my channel. You want to use MPPT for sure and get all the power from your panels.

@drivin69 6 лет назад

can't you use a battery and just charge the battery.?? even two.??i have a solar powered teardrop camper and the battery are like wicked expensive but they have a lot of amps..

@RichardKingADI 7 лет назад

Add more insulation! A blanket of glassfibre or whatever, wrapped around the tank should help a lot. Also be sure to insulate the last foot or so of pipe which brings cold water to the tank - you might find it feels warm to the touch, if so the tank is also losing heat from there.

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+Richard King I agree this was I test to see the pros and cons. Check out my newer video's I'm applying it in my new ranch house.

@TexasRanger-b8j Месяц назад

I don't need a hot water heater. I need a cold water heater.

@diysolaradventures7894 Год назад

Where do yall find these products

@goldcountryruss7035 3 года назад

This is an old video but I hope you wrapped the tank with fiberglass blanket and then built a foam board box enclosure.

@alcoppa2682 Год назад

I saw your video and I know that by now you have probably worked out most of the bugs,. You need to take a shower closer to where the hot water is made. You need to more the water heater into a more insulated and protected area. Al Coppa and you can find me on Facebook in some of the beginning solar groups.

@robpivato4227 2 года назад

Wrap the tank in foam puzzle tiles? Or somethin!? Good idea!!?

@richardcooney7021 Год назад

I have a gas heater that's well insulated and loses only 1Degree a 24 hr period.

@indogoUI Год назад

Proper insulated tank will keep the water hot all through the night

@chronobot2001 4 месяца назад

Mine is in my basement and it keeps the heat really well.

@JA-ux7dd Год назад

Put a water heater blanket on your unit...

@richardowens9061 6 лет назад

How about using a thermostat to keep the water hot overnight with battery power? Keeping the water hot is not as hard as getting it hot, so it shouldn't consume a lot of your battery power. And, you are obviously producing an excess of solar power - or, you wouldn't be shunting it into an electric hot water heater element, right? Between the jacket and a little battery power, it should be quite doable. Good luck!

@willwillis2381 2 года назад

That's not a good idea. Over the 10 to 14 hrs of dark you'll drain your batterys.

@richardowens9061 2 года назад

@@willwillis2381 That depends on the size of the battery bank. I have a 23,040 watt-hour LiFePO4 battery bank. I could easily keep that hot water tank going overnight and not even notice the difference.

@freddaniels434 5 лет назад

Second DC element on battery bank

@kriskulczynski8957 8 месяцев назад

Knob

@somarcire2688 6 лет назад

thank you..that I got an idea on you..can I used take thermal heater as a substitute to a dumpload? dumpload resistor is highly priced in Philippines.. since I short on my budget..anyone for an advise..thanks..

@ModernOffGridDIY 6 лет назад

Power is power and energy is energy. You can dump the load to AC or DC if the Appliance uses AC then dump the power and a see if the appliance uses DC then dump the load in DC power

@prestoc3034 6 лет назад

A simple light bulb that can handle the wattage from your dumpload, would suffice, and it should be much less expensive for you to buy.

@barneymerrill3188 8 лет назад

Another correction: For a water saver shower head check out Oxygenics shower head in Amazon at: www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=node%3D3206433011&field-keywords=Oxygenics+rv+shower+headHere's the part I'm talking about: SHWRHD OXYGN 5SPRY HH BN by OXYGENICS MfrPartNo 88446

@offgridwanabe Год назад

A wrap is good make sure you put a heat trap on the hot water pipe to stop the migration of heat in the pipe.

@JA-ux7dd Год назад

Look at your shower valve mixer protection device and adjust not to mix, then turn your heater to about 110...soap and 110 degree water is plenty good for dishes, and dishwashers have an internal heater...

@alfredcoppa7804 4 года назад

Ok, so I saw the video and here are the conclusions that I have come to. There will always be temperature loss through the tank. A lot of people will tell you that you don't need a blanket. That is BS. You are the one who paid for all of this now put more insulation to cut back on heat loss. Another thing: Use a larger water heater. That means you will make more hot water. If you have a connection to the grid you can use a DPDT ( Double Pole Double Throw ) relay with a 12 hour timer. Not so easy to hook up. The AC power can go through a thermostat but not necessarily the one that came with the water heater . 4500 watt element not needed to make up for heat loss a night. The AC power makes up for the heat loss using a smaller wattage water heating element. I have been making mathematical calculations on this stuff for several years now and I know that it all works because the math works out. It is just a matter of getting all of the parts connecting them up and working out any bugs that turn up like loose connections, too small wire, shade on the panels, too many cloudy. Al

@tyronesmith5112 3 года назад

So have you considered that you might also be loosing heat from the tank because as you use hot water at night you're adding unheated water to the tank, which can't be heated 2nd to the loss of aux power? I'm not sure how or even if this issue can be fixed. However, considering the 10 degree drop you mentioned, I'm not sure it's even be worth it.

@CoolMusicToMyEars 5 лет назад

Encase this cylinder in a big box and insulate with vermiculate granuals, thats what I aim to do, and use two tanks, heat two on a changeover valve - electrical side, so you have double store heat available, try and think of distribution of heating in say 3 places up the tank, not just one place ! dump load power is always best to heat water, and insulate all out / in pipes...

@gregyohngy 6 лет назад

What is the temperature of your incoming cold water? If you stored it in a tank, then it would be at room temperature and not its original temperature. I used about 100 ft of pex tubing/2.5 gal in a concrete roof heated by the sun or you could use in your attic to preheat the water.

@billjones5178 5 лет назад

To save your energy 1. move tank inside and heat loss will help heat your house saving heat energy. 2. Use hot water at evening or night B4 it cools down, leaving tank water cooler and heat loss will be less as cool water losses less heat. Yeah, us water saver shower head.

@Straho111 2 года назад

Is it possible to heat up 30L of water to 60 Celsius with a 12v system in less than an hour? Many thanks

@jamiemeyer2483 4 года назад

Wouldn't ..., DC " water heater " be the way to say it ? .. Why HEAT , " Already " HOT water ?

@steveklloyd 6 лет назад

We have a 1.5 gal a min in one bathroom vrs the one in our master bath which is a standard 3 gal a min

@edsmith4414 3 года назад

Be nice to know what type and where you got the LED thermometer.

@ZWATER1 6 лет назад

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@thevikingwolfpack836 7 лет назад

Put a hot water insulated blanket around it an cover the top an lines .

@SolarSteve 7 лет назад

Perhaps you could put a piece of rigid foam insulation underneath it to separate it from the ground, as I'm sure the ground is cold?

@ModernOffGridDIY 7 лет назад

+Home Solar Research check out my updated video it's wrapped now working way better.

@MrJamesPottorff 8 лет назад

The heat loss you are getting is not unusual considering the water heater is sitting right by an open doorway. If the tank had a insulation wrap, the loss would not be as bad. When you move into the house you are building, I would wrap the tank with insulation, and install the heater in a closet, so heat loss would be minimal. As for a low flow showerhead, I would recommend an Oxygenics shower head made for RV's. Not only is it low flow, but you can switch it off and on as you shower (some call this taking a navy shower). To minimize overall water useage.

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Hey buddy yah I am going to wrap it, it just makes more sense to help keep the heat in. when I move it to the new off grid home it will be in a room and wrapped and should work nicely. yah just looking around for some good shower heads to help save water and help the heater out. Thanks for your insight nice to have ideas. hope all is well

@MrJamesPottorff 8 лет назад

Be sure an check out the lo-flow faucets & shower heads designed for RV's. They are made in a way to maximize the use of the (limited) built in water tanks of an RV. Personally I use an Oxygenics showerhead in my RV, it allows me to cut the water off/on while showering, ans uses very little water. Which is good, as I only have a 6 gal water heater in my RV., I would also look into building a bulk (solar) hot water heater tank outdoors, (ground based) and use it to pre heat the water that feeds into your indoor water tank. Making your water heater even more effecient. As it will heat the water much faster. I would top that off, and send the output of your water heater, thru the on-demand heater to use as a last resort for extended bad weather, cloudy days. That would give you 3 ways of making hot water 1- Outdoor (solar) bulk water heater 2- Indoor (dump load) water heating 3- Final (on-demand) as last resort water heating You should never have to use up propane with the on demand unit, and would never run out of hot water!

@Valient6 6 лет назад

Just in case you didn't know...i think hes going to wrap the hot water tank. Ten thousand times.

@ModernOffGridDIY 6 лет назад

+Valient Six I have more updated vids

@kosmonautik639 6 лет назад

Just shut that door near the tank

@rachelsmokewheatley6761 4 года назад

You could put a probe in a T on the hot side of the tank. Tank out side.

@rachelsmokewheatley6761 4 года назад

I would strip that factory insulation with a newer better one. I used once duct insulation. Are your DC eliments 12.24. Or 48? Good job bro on everthing and am now a fan. Not a DC fan. A youber fan. Lol

@thevikingwolfpack836 7 лет назад

Get a 1.5 gpm shower head they work great.

@joesears584 5 лет назад

Not my favorite brand of water heater

@ModernOffGridDIY 5 лет назад

Check out my newest solar hot water System I installed on my new off grid home

@herbertpoland9628 8 лет назад

I would insulate the pec tubing too! and wrap tank.

@ModernOffGridDIY 8 лет назад

Yes I agree thats what I will be doing when I relocate it on the new off grid home.

@ballsakch2489 4 года назад

I've been taking a shower with two squirt bottles for three months I live in an office building one has soapy water the other has clean water sometimes I throw it in the microwave sometimes I don't