Same here. Not a "gun nut" or whatever term ppl use, just casually interested. This guy is awesome, packs a lot into the presentation, sans b.s. and holds my attention. Going to look for more videos by him. Great job Mr. Harrell. 👏👏👍
@@rumplestiltskin3814 You bet, similar level of interest here and not of the 'enthusiast' persuasion. And I also appreciate that Paul avoids the whole 'political'' thang.
I was a teenager in California in the early 60's. I could walk in to the local Kmart and have my choice of .22lr, longs or shorts. We picked the shorts many times because they were 35 cents vs 50 cents for the long rifles(do they even make longs any more?). All the ammo was on the shelf available for inspection by anyone. I was about 16 and no clerk ever challenged me or required ID. To say California was different then is a massive understatement. Kudos to Paul for his masterful presentation.
I walked into a gun store in my state today. Carried in a pistol to trade. Walked out with the new pistol in about 20 minutes. Loaded it at my truck, strapped it on, and drove away.... Just sayin. I vote to keep this right every chance I get. Fight for your right to party. We have constitutional carry now, no permit required to conceal. Because we voted for the right people. We pay attention to the right issues. But, yes, that store I was in today did have .22 Long. They usually have S/L/LR, as well as a few old rifles chambered as such.
Fall down on your knees John and thank your second amendment. Here in the UK you need a police permit to own a a .22 rifle. Thats after you pay them about 75 dollars, you have written permission from a land owner, oh and the cop inspects the land to see if its safe. God bless America
I spent most of my childhood, in the 50's and 60's, on remote sheep stations ( ranches ) in the northern and upper Gascoyne regions of Western Australia. When I tell young people of today that it was very common for people working on those properties to augment their incomes by shooting kangaroos for the bounty on them and how most of them did this with a .22, I usually get howled down and told it can't be done. In this country, at least, .22's seem to have been forgotten as an effective hunting rifle for medium sized prey and a lot of people dismiss them as little more than toys. The largest marsupial mammal in Australia is the Western Red kangaroo, found mostly in Western and Central Australia and some of the bigger males can stand up to 6 feet tall and weigh over 80kg yet I have seen people drop these big bucks with a normal .22 round. When I was a kid back then, very few people could afford a large calibre rifle or the ammunition for one, so the .22 was the go-to rifle for them. Don't under-estimate a .22 - in the right hands, they'll get the job done for you.
TombstoneHeart Thanks for posting that. Very interesting stuff. I grew up in the 1960's in S Alabama. I say you can kill most anything if you put it in the Ear Hole 🤔 (•) Lol
What are you talking about.... Every roo I have ever dropped was with a .22 and they all fell over dead. I think the advice is for shit cunts who can't aim.
That was a very interesting video. As a kid back in the early 60's, I shot probably 25,000 5mm pellets out of my Sheridan Blue Streak pump up pellet rifle. I believe it shot at 650 fps, and was deadly to anything up to the size of a cottontail. I shot it so much because my dad wouldn't let me shoot a .22, not even a .22 short, because of all the live stock around. I thought he was overly cautious, because I thought a short was a wimpy round. Your video has vendicated dear old dad. As Mark Twain said, "when I was 16, my dad was the dumbest person in the world, but I was amazed how much he had learned by the time I was 25"
I have a .35 cal pellet gun that shoots at 1000fps and can easily take out almost anything but because of weird regulations and laws I don't need a license
I was shot in the chest with a J22 Jimenez. It went through the front pectoral, ripped the upper lobe of my left lung and deflated it before it imbedded itself in my left shoulder. It's still there to this day. Those claiming a "cheap .22" won't go through clothing or do any damage if they do have obviously never been shot by a Saturday Night Special at close range.
@@NRG56 Well, i'm not saying that .22 is not lethal or something. This round kills, but it takes too long to do so. Sure the bad guy will bleed out and die if shot by a 22, but that will take time that you just don't have in a self-defense situation. Your best bet would be if he got scared off by the first shot or gave up on acting due to the pain, but if he's on drugs and won't feel any then your best bet would be to just magdump as many rounds as you can until he's on the ground... which could take a lot of shots. (Yes, i know you could aim for the face, but good luck explaining that to a judge...) It's better than nothing, sure, but in my opinion it is a round that should only be used for defense if you really, REALLY don't have a choice.
I really appreciate the fact that this gentleman actually speaks the truth and backs it up with demonstrations and doesn't fill his videos with just a bunch of personal opinions. His information is very useful for those who have no or little experience with firearms, and even those who do and just want to know the facts. Thank you for all the videos you post. Keep up the good work.
My step son got shot with a .22 long rifle, missed his heart by two inches, broke up and left particles in his left lung, biggest particle went thru and stopped under skin of left shoulder. Yep it went thru his shoulder bone. He still has cold weather aches. As always Paul great video, thanks for sharing. This is the reason I subbed last year!
When I was a child my brother was shot with a 22 cal . The kid across the street put a 22 round in a vice and it fired and hit my brother who was in the garage across the street. Just how accidents happen.
@@vibratingstring Most carnivasls used to have a game in which you would fire a 22 short rifle at a target, pull off a miracle because the sights weren't even close, and you would win a prize. Now you just get those BB guns that will produce a 12 inch group at 10 feet with the rifle clamped in a vise.
The opening seconds, "Distinguished Rifleman" badge, there are very few Soldier or Marine walking around with that award. People who are involved in the CMP, or were in the infantry knows the significance of that badge.
Paul Harrell: master marksman, literally world-class expert on all things firearms and shooting related, simply splendid teacher, and incredibly humble and personable individual. With 19+ years of school training (military included), I have NEVER seen anyone whose lectures are more fact-filled, more understandable, and more coherent. There really should be a Harrell Firearms Academy. All of which is to express two things: (a) THANK YOU and (b) VERY BZ (“well done,” for those have not experienced Navy signals).
Read any gun/hunting mag and they make it sound like the only way to pot a squirrel or rabbit is with a ..22 LR-HP, minimum. My father, born 1916, hunted almost daily all winter in norther Minnesota for rabbits. he only used .22 shorts, because that was all the family could afford. He was an excellent shot and never failed to drop any rabbit he saw. As Paul said. Don't underestimate the .22 short.
@@keepermovin5906 Any decent BB gun will put a .177 in one side of a rabbit's head and clean out the other. A BB will penetrate a good inch or so - enough for game that small. I'd say anything over a 22 short is overkill unless you're shooting at a longer range than I'm expecting where your MOA makes it unlikely to hit your target anyway.
1950's world record bear: ... a .22 long....to the head...was like 15ft long or something like that stretched out (maybe more?). Native woman shot jt I think in Canada or Alaska or something. 1 shot, but many others were done to ensure it was expired after that. Despite that many went clean through the skull, I've seen photos galore of it from all angles. Rabbit cooked in good fatty oil (flour and egg of course if ya can) and you don't get protein poisoning. Can live on it a whule if you get a tiny bit of fat too. Rabbits are so good fried up. As is most fresh game. All you really need to do is poke a hole and they all do that. It's like getting stabbed by a 1/4" sharpened steel rod and having it removed. 22s are no joke. All guns even bb guns are leathal more than you'd think except those cheapest ones, they do fall a wee but short but still are even at 5-10 fpe. A basic cheap 1930's depression bolt action rifle in .22s/l/lr and a box of ammo can feed you a few weeks to a year if you go for the right stuff and more if you go for stuff ya shouldn't (aren't supposed to). Depression era was hell. Survival mode you do what you need. I am state south. Many stories from family and friends both of which I/we have a lot of. You do what you need to live. Being outdoors daily and thus a good shot accounts for a good deal of game. My goto is a CZ 452. I still enjoy all 22lr guns. My fav guns to shoot are 22lr rifles. Just something about being so cheap, accurate, small ammo, deadly having killed probably more game than all other guns combined, history, nostalgia of guns, etc make it so fun. You kinda want to be an expert with one. And one is never enough.
@@knurlgnar24 I agree from experience 1000000%. You just need to drill a small hole and it's instant death or close to it if not somehow. Placement is key, but it is like a quarter inch steel rod being shot clean through you. Same effect. Pellet gun, cheapmor expensive, 22s, 22 long, 22 lr, 22mag, etc. Doesn't really matter at all. It's the guy shooting it 99.9%. Head only for meat all the way too. Between eye & ear or eye & horn, nail between on most game (not all), equals food. Fun to stretch distance but a outdoors man can and should get close as he can, and also not be spotted even. That is the fun of it anyway.
@@AldoSchmedack That's exactly what my father had. .22 bolt action. No mag and had to manually cock the bolt. He was about 7 or 8. That would have been in the early 1920s. I still have it. The stock is screwed up and the hardware is missing. My next project is restocking it.
Alright...I’ve been a RU-vid gun review consumer since around 2010, when I started with Nutn on his AR vs AK series. I’ve seen pretty much every reviewer/content creator since then. This Paul Harrell is by far the most succinct, well informed guy out there. He’s got more information than garandthumb, a better cadence than MAC, and even keeps his videos moving at a better pace than Hickok. Really appreciate all the time, and effort you put into these videos Paul. It’s cliche, but keep up the good work, and thanks for everything you do.
As a child, my mamma always said a pump-up pellet rifle was as powerful as a .22. She did this to vilify the air rifle, as to be an excuse to me not owning one. I grew up and have all kinds of firearms and motorcycles :D
@@benjimenfranklin7650 Yes, in the movie "A christmas story" the kid shot the BB gun and broke his glasses, narrowly missing shooting his eye out, and he blamed it on a falling icicle.
I knew a guy that was grazed on top of the head by a .22. Luckily for him, it was only a grazing shot, but he said he went down instantly. He said that it felt like someone overhead slammed him on top of the head with a sledgehammer. Needless to say, he doesn't underestimate the power of a .22.
@M I can't speak for everyone on this thread, but I personally wouldn't be offended if you chose not to believe my story. It was an anecdote from a long time ago that I felt added additional insight to the video subject.
@Robo Redneck oh yeah well I once ate a 22LR in a bean burrito and later that night I shattered the toilet bowl. Thankfully the bullet came out un-fired and intact.
I'm one of those guys... Felt like I was slapped in the head by a large stick. Went in a couple of inches+ above my eyebrow and exited through my scalp about the center of the top of my head. Needless to say I never went hunting with "him" again... Scared the beegeezes out of me, but I wasn't seriously hurt. Here's the ugly truth... That accident was from a ricochet, from a shot at a rabbit that ran between my hunting partner an me. He had target fixation and didn't even see me. I'm sure the bullet was pretty mangled as the gash in my scalp was very ragged. I know it was at least part of the bullet as I dug a small sliver of lead out of my scalp. Fast forward to 2010... That's when I purchased 1st a Benjamin Marauder .22 cal and subsequently, a 2nd Marauder in .25 cal and a AirForce Condor in .25 cal. These are Precharged Pneumatic (PCP) guns normally charged to 3000 psi. The Condor hits CONSIDERABLY harder then the Marauders.. I shot a coyote about 4 inches below the spine, just behind his fore-leg at about 55 yards. The .25 cal dropped him like a hammer. I've dispatched several of his cousins since and its so VERY accurate and I now focus on head-shots when appropriate. I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the .25 cal Condor at just over 1150 FPS with a 33.95 gn JSB Exact King Heavy pellet! Pretty sure a well-placed shot would be human lethal at 50 yards. (Why pick on coyotes? Livestock protection during calving.)
As usual I enjoyed your presentation on the .22 short. My personal experiences with .22 caliber rounds as a Combat Firefighter/Paramedic are that they're very deadly. I also frequently hunt with a .177 caliber match grade Beeman pellet rifle which is many times more accurate than even match grade .22's. I can take most game within it's admittedly shorter range due to the fact that I can place a round anywhere that I want. A bullet of pretty much any power to the brain stops most game. I have seen deadly GSW'S caused by pellet guns. They don't blow you apart, but they will definitely kill you. Thanks Paul. Keep up the good work.
Yes my family who are in the medical field esp those who were or are still in ER medicine will tell you pellets can kill and 22 shorts have killed also. They seen lots of it during gang wars where 22 rounds were often the prefer ammo choice due to low recoil and cheap availability. Plus pellets that are designed today are more deadly than years ago.
@Солнцевская Братва you don't know wtf your talking about. A pellet gun can and has killed many people. Some of these pellet guns is shooting 1400ft a sec.
I’m 56 years old and all my life of shooting, the long rifle has been the cheapest because of volume of production. In older times the short was because of gallery guns and more common uses the country went through a lot. I’ve read personal biographies of several famous hunters who got their start walking to the country store and buying however many loose shorts they could afford out of a box! Tines were hard back in the old days!
Hey Paul, I've been binge watching but something in this particular video made me want to comment and make an acknowledgement. The gesture you made when you were describing proper shot placement on a raccoon was extremely polite. You are professional and well mannered in a way that transcends most people's best idea of good etiquette. I am extremely appreciative to be learning calibers from a man without the term 'head shot' in his vocabulary. You're a great role model!
Back in the 1970's when I was a youngster I mistakenly suggested to my father that my Crossman 760 was powerful, similar to a .22. He set up a piece of 3/4 inch plywood at 100 yards and I learned that my Crossman was nowhere near as powerful. Dad always seemed to teach me the best things.
D33Lux xx The Austrian army used a 46 caliber air rifle from the late 1700s to early 1800s. It was lethal up to 125 yards. Lewis and Clark took one with them on their famous expedition. It was a 30 shot repeater.
If anyone doubts the lethality and damage to humans, of the modest .22LR, just ask a paramedic of some of our bigger cities. the numbers are staggering.
You are correct. Studies have shown that the lethality of different calibers, including the .22LR, are surprisingly similar across ALL calibers. However, the difference is knock down power. A bad guy dying from a .22LR wound can do a LOT of damage to you and others in the MINUTES it takes before he goes unconscious from his wound. Bigger calibers knock em down faster.
@@1notgilty there hasnt been a case whereby a felon on drugs or whatever, getting shot by .22lr and successully keep on attacking the victum! the last report i read was girl who shot some fella with a shitty short barrel pistol who was on top of her / she fired 5 or six shots, they guy stopped striaght way, he managed to crawl out of the house but died on the drive way
@@1notgilty people seem to forget not a lot of people, even the criminals can spot the difference in a gun right away, they see a gun and you shoot it and generally the human response is "get the fuck away." Yes knockdown power matters but you'll be surprised how many shootings like the original commenter are done in the city with a 22lr, fuck a 22 pistol is really fuckin common. People "survive" but their lives are forever changed because they've gotten 4-10 shots of 22 in them.
The best thing about .22 shorts is that it takes your 16 round golden boy and magically transforms it into a 21 round "high capacity assault lever gun".
@BW MadDog [retired] I was just looking at some online specs and it looks like a lot of the henrys will fire .22 S/L/LR idk how well they work, i'm a pellet man meself these days
Yes, barrels are marked .22 S/L/LR. They work very well, mine feeds and shoots everything. They say not to shoot CB or caps out of them, but the they work well out of mine.
II have an old Marlin 97 (I think) in .22 short. Holds 25 rounds, half a box of shells. 24" octagon barrel. Might be a 97/39 Frankenstein, but it sure likes those shorts.
I like this guy. Talks to the point. Very "as a matter of fact", Knowledgeable well verses. Finally somebody that doesn't rattle on and on about irrelevant nonsense.
Great video Paul. Just a heads up, intro doesn't matter to me one way or the other, I tune in for the content of your videos ( always top notch) AND the gunfire in the background is great, it means you are out there putting everything to the test and bringing us along to see the results. Not sitting at a table, regurgitating info that was printed on a box, or printed in a magazine, or worse yet info that was gleaned from a beer and bullshit session somewhere. Keep up the GREAT WORK.
I agree...I usually skip through the intros,,to get to the dialog and action...With Pauls channel,,you can count on factual dialog,,with well presented,,realistic action..None of the Ego driven BS in other videos and channels..The occasional humor thrown in,adds to the quality of Pauls Videos and why i keep coming back and look forward to new installments..Keep it up Paul..
I love my .22's! I sometimes carry my SR22 pistol because it conceals well with shorts and a tshirt. A 22 might not be super powerful but you can accurately dump a whole magazine in a target really fast. It leaves little wholes but there will be a lot of them!
That was an interesting and even eye opening comparison video on .22 ammo. I'm pretty impressed with the results of both the long vs short both fired out of a revolver and rifle comparison. The added pellet projectile data was a nice add.
its great to see a serious gun channel talk about 22s. I have a lot of different guns in different calibers and 22 is my favorite. I just picked up a new pellet gun and that thing is hilariously fun! worth every penny! great video as always.
My dad had a 22 Winchester bolt action hes 73 used to shoot 22 shorts out of when I was a Kid , My sister borrowed it and has fare as I know she sold it without telling my father Im so pissed it was super accurate , One day would like to buy one and give it to my father .
Just my experience, for what it’s worth, years ago I got shot with a 22 short out of a small revolver. Was January and was wearing multiple layers and a thick winter jacket, went completely through my left arm and out the back of my jacket. So like 3 layers in front another 3 in back, plus another part of the jacket upon exiting. Plus muscle and tissue. Left a good bit of shrapnel in my arm, had to have surgery to reattach nerves, took a while to recover and never will be 100%. Definitely not to be underestimated
@robert warner I shot 3/4 inch plywood with .22 shorts leaned up against a block wall. Some of them reached the back of the plywood, others went through and dimpled the concrete. A 1/4 inch section of plywood is just not going to cut it. About as effective as sheet cardboard.
anyone that ever said "well a .22 cant go through clothing" 100% always neglects the fact that i dont need it to go through clothing....just their sunglasses.
I had a Chiappa 1911-22 for a short while, ran great but only with CCI Minimags and Stingers. Anything less, (even Armscor) wouldn't cycle. Does yours have the same problem? when firing Armscor .22 High Velocity 36 Grain Hollow Points, the casing for the armscor would bulge and fail to extract, but CCI extracts and cycles every single time.
Watched the interesting program on. 22 lr and .22 short. And pellets. .22 long has a range that can be dangerous to a mile. No comparison to the pellet gun of the calibers mentioned. Though all weapons are dangerous and it's always the empty gun that kills in accidents. There should be much more about the.22 short.
Me too. I used a break action Savage over-under 20 gauge / 22. Still have the gun. If you need to eat, over under with a 22 will put food on the table.
I agree about the "tempo," but if it is a choice between chronograph time and having more facts more often, I'd rather listen to the traditional intro than him reading out each shot. I think "...Now let's go crunch the numbers.." relaxes me more than gunfire as long as it is followed by "the meat target." "But how effective will it be against really serious targets like these soda jugs?" is more funny than useful. I have to say I wonder if the _"...high tech fleece bullet stop.." with a few sticks in it_ would versus _a meat target with pork chop pectoral_ versus _a 20 inch block of ballistic gel_ versus _milk cartons_ would compare using white box .38 Special or 9mm.
robin6512 yup, .22 is a toy has got a lot of unsafe handling which has also resulted in a lot of injury and death. It is possibly one of the most accidentally dangerous rounds out there because of this. One of my neighbors
Accidentally killed his pregnant wife during an argument about him having guns. His defence was they were “just” .22’s and not very dangerous. He actually begged for the death penalty in court, (Canada so his plea was ignored of course and it was an accident according to witnesses). I’ve personally seen experienced shooters suddenly relax their “rules” when handed a .22 which is madness.
I won't stand 100 yards away and let anyone shoot me with a 300fps red rider bb gun, I definitely won't stand in front of a .22lr. But then again, I know how deadly the .22 is but I don't want to be shot by anything lol
A .22LR CCI will go through a half inch pine board at 440 yards, or a quarter mile. That may be enough to penetrate the nose into the five inches of cartilage, flesh and thin piece of bone between you and a person's medulla oblongata. The range of a 22LR is deadly far beyond what it can be fired accurately.
When I was a teenager I inherited a family heirloom,an old ranger .22 single that is still to this day the most accurate gun for me I have ever shot out of many, I was on garden patrol one day for squirrel s, rabbits,groundhogs ect. When I encountered a deer , I went for an ear shot that was like flipping an off switch and I drug it back to the house my granddad couldn't believe it, now days there is no way with many other options I would choose to hunt deer with a .22, let alone a short but that's a time I'll never forget
Dear Paul you are the best demonstrator on RU-vid and with good reason I think I will call you the king. For one thing you take out all the fat thank you thank you thank you! No endless chatter and digressing points. You always stay focused with The task at hand and never stray far afield. That ends up being very beneficial to the viewer , we get a cohesive presentation and whether we agree with you in the end or not you have been consistent and fair and we can even draw our own conclusions. Nice job Paul! I know you have a big fan base and an enthusiastic following as I say again, it’s all with good reason. Bravo!!
I remember well some friends of mine playing around with 22 bird shot. That stuff was not breaking glass. Another friend jumped on one of their motorcycles and speed off - playing, not to steal it, we lived on an island. In the spirit of play his buddy shot him with the bird shot. He and the bike went down like he got hit with a hunting rifle. That bird shot barely broke the skin in about a hundred places and he spent quite some time laying on a table getting the tiny grains of lead picked out of him. @ you Lloyd
We never pay attention to what other folks bring to the range...it is just a moot point...we do inquire about odd or interesting looking firearms...once offered to buy a little revolver chambered in .22 short but the 80 year old lady shooting it wasn't selling...she held it about 8 inches in front of her nose, shooting at a target about 5 feet away...I don't know if she ever hit the paper, but she was enjoying herself immensely...takes all kinds...😁😁
Grew up shooting my dads Rem model 76 (lever action nylon). Great gun. Went to a couple gun shows with my daughter and spotted a model 66 priced at almost $500. At the second gun show saw another priced at $300. Almost perfect condition. Didn't get 10 feet away before turning around and buying it. The next time my daughter came over to visit, she shot it and fell in love with it. I remember seeing these guns years ago going for around $100 all day long. Wish I would have bought a couple back then.
Thank you for recognizing that pellet guns can be used to humanely hunt deer. The technology of modern, pre-charged pneumatic air rifles is largely underestimated.
Not exactly comparison but I've been shot by an airsoft bb and it pain as hell! I'd say if toygun can deliver pain, a .22 would do it much much much worse.
