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I've seen ferocious debate from people defending and attacking the M1 iMac and M1 Mac mini in defense of either device and I think frankly, everyone is missing the point. In today's video we'll go through and compare the pros and cons of both the new 2021 iMac and the cheapest M1 Mac mini to see which is best.
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@Lying29
@Lying29 3 года назад
Reasons I prefer Mac mini are: I already have spare monitors, speakers, keyboard and trackpad. Also Mac mini just comes with every ports I need. One less common reason is that I can move my Mac mini between office and home much easier.
@wojiaobill
@wojiaobill 3 года назад
*all the ports I need
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
iMac display, apart for fancy useless white bazel, is lucid, pretty impossible to work with light and reflects in the room. So if you don't want to get stuck and see lights reflects anyway on monitor, you may prefer a MATT display like BenQ PD2500Q Monitor per Designer 25 Pollici QHD, 2560 x 1440 QHD, CAD/CAM, Darkroom Mode, Low Blue Light, Flicker-Free, uncle dog and pork.
@vrucewayne
@vrucewayne 3 года назад
@@wojiaobill haha there's never enough ports you need more
@stanleyomar
@stanleyomar 3 года назад
Same as well. I moved from an iMac to a mini years back and also already have a keyboard, Wacom touch tablet, monitor, and speakers. Waiting to see what the new "high-end" mini looks like and how it's priced.
@harvardford8752
@harvardford8752 3 года назад
@@wojiaobill that’s what she said
@jimhibert
@jimhibert 3 года назад
“But that’s not very good for boosting my engagement and watch time”. Honest!
@hddhdhxhxb1793
@hddhdhxhxb1793 3 года назад
Yeah indeed, it’s so annoying nowadays youtubers pushing past 10 min in a longwinded video in what could have been a 3 min one
@noahbuchmeier
@noahbuchmeier 3 года назад
@@hddhdhxhxb1793 I agree
@TammyFraleyfraleyfoto
@TammyFraleyfraleyfoto 3 года назад
My husband had a 2012 Mac Mini and I finally made him upgrade to the M1 Mac Mini, on sale at Costco. He already has a keyboard and mouse along with a 4k display so he's set for another 9 years. A big improvement.
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 3 года назад
I also have a late 2012 mac mini that was upgraded to 500gb ssd and 16 gb ram. It still runs really fast for medium intensity tasks but I do wonder when the security updates will stop completely. Just deciding between Imac and mini
@Soulseeologia
@Soulseeologia Год назад
@@samjam6989 you’re suffering from controlled obsolescence, which is like Apple throttling performance
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 Год назад
@@Soulseeologia it still works bro but after 10 years there won't be software updates like windows
@lincolnflick7535
@lincolnflick7535 Год назад
But at least with windows you can upgrade to the next version for free whether your device is supported or not (with very easy workarounds)
@WalterKnox
@WalterKnox Год назад
@@lincolnflick7535 I am not an apple person, but you can do this with macs as well. I have a 2011 macbook pro and a 2011 mac mini both running macos ventura (the latest version) when the latest version they officially supported was high sierra. Just use opencore legacy patcher, it is quite easy and works well. Just takes a bit of tinkering.
@That6ftChick
@That6ftChick Год назад
As a person who simply works from home and edit simple videos...this gave me the realization that the iMac is fine for me. I am the type that just want a simple set up. Picking out displays and etc overwhelms me and sends me straight into anxiety. Lol
@tjarsun
@tjarsun 3 года назад
It's easy: if you already have a nice screen kb and mouse go mini, otherwise go imac (but not the cheapest one).
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 3 года назад
Exactly why I went with the mini, and I share the peripherals with my Win10 PC via a powered USB hub.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 3 года назад
But I still want the iMac (the boss says NO).
@TheShakeBoss
@TheShakeBoss 3 года назад
Not only that, 4 years pass by and you want to renew your system. With the Mac Mini you dont need to buy the whole package again.
@mbvglider
@mbvglider 3 года назад
@@TheShakeBoss The upside to that is that in 4 years, you might want a better screen, heh. It's sad seeing people using their Mac Minis with 1080p screens at my work.
@DanielGuzman83
@DanielGuzman83 3 года назад
I really want the iMac but already own a Mac Mini. Got me a free monitor from work
@dougc84
@dougc84 3 года назад
You summed it up perfectly with the "you have to ask you" statement. I'm a guitar pedal enthusiast, and it's amazing how many people ask "which pedal is better, X or Y?" and the answer, as always, is "it depends." There are some things I like about the iMac, but it isn't for me, but that doesn't mean it's not for someone else. If there was a "best" mac desktop, then why would Apple need to build multiple of them?
@DBLCreations
@DBLCreations 3 года назад
The thing is, if you just want a computer, an all in one where you don't have to fiddle around anymore and you just want to unbox and be done with it. Go with the iMac. Want a bit more "freedom" and flexibility go with the Mac Mini... 🤷🏻‍♂️
@shib5267
@shib5267 Год назад
bro if you just want an all in one computer don't buy a whole ass 1500 dollar imac lol
@DBLCreations
@DBLCreations Год назад
​@@shib5267 It all depends on what you want/need
@aedan2003
@aedan2003 3 года назад
Me who already has an m1 MacBook: *Yes, this seems interesting!*
@avanix702
@avanix702 3 года назад
same bro hahaha
@Altchannel2988
@Altchannel2988 3 года назад
Still using my 2012 air with 8gb i5 it’s still fast lol
@timkline162
@timkline162 3 года назад
I think the mini is more flexible, but I personally like the all in one-ness of the iMac.
@jsebrech
@jsebrech 3 года назад
Another angle to consider is that the iMac doesn't just come with a display, it comes with a VERY good display. DCI-P3 color reproduction, very crisp with the ideal retina resolution at 218 PPI, nice and bright at 500 nits. The PPI situation can be particularly bothersome, because if you want to be near that 220 PPI range to get perfectly crisp reproduction you have to get a monitor above 4K, and the options there are rare and expensive.
@FlandraLabs
@FlandraLabs 3 года назад
If you actually have serious work to do, you’d almost definitely have two or more monitors. Good luck having a matching setup with the iMac display on one side and another display on the other. It’ll look horrendous. Your camera and speakers will also be stuck on one side too.
@NOAHBENJ
@NOAHBENJ 3 года назад
Everyone to Luke: "What's Better? An M1 iMac, or an M1 Mac Mini?" Luke: "Yes."
@snapperurban
@snapperurban 3 года назад
Brilliant video as ways and I love the humor you actually made me laugh out loud at one point. Very informative and I'm going to buy a new jmac in a few months so the whole family can use it. so thanks for helping me. Stay safe.
@polypolyman
@polypolyman 3 года назад
I just want them to release the touch id keyboard as a standalone accessory
@emiliohinojosa9928
@emiliohinojosa9928 3 года назад
Unlikely since being able to pair touch ID to any Mac would likely result in security problems.
@emiliohinojosa9928
@emiliohinojosa9928 3 года назад
@@alex_schwartz the point is that the part that makes Touch ID and FaceID secure is that they are designed to function as a kind of closed circuit. It’s not just authentication, it’s separately storing your information to not make it accessible to others(either users or people who trying to steal your information). Making this authentication wireless means that Apple used encryption at either end so that it can only be read at the destination. Meaning it’s safer if a keyboard only works with one iMac. If you could use it with multiple devices, It would be pretty easy for someone to get access to that information; it “opens up the circuit” so to speak. In simple terms, it’s why your Touch ID and Face ID doesn’t transfer across devices and you need to set it up for each one.
@maddominican879
@maddominican879 3 года назад
@@emiliohinojosa9928 so what happens if you need to replace the keyboard? Once you pair it to a mac mini then it will have the same encryption
@darwiniandude
@darwiniandude 3 года назад
Agreed. And to those mentioning security issues, it does work. As with iMac, it’s paired via double clicking the power button during setup.
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
touch id on my laptop dell (Windows hello) works at the first touch, no issue
@MrFreakzoidrj12
@MrFreakzoidrj12 3 года назад
I hate when people say mini is cheaper and act like I can just plug my 4k monitor that everyone has laying around
@allansh828
@allansh828 3 года назад
One big reason against iMac is gaming. You can’t plug in a PS5 to the iMac screen, but most none-Apple display accepts multiple inputs.
@asmaisgatas100
@asmaisgatas100 3 года назад
@Joe read again
@krgamingx2111
@krgamingx2111 3 года назад
I would rather have the console plugged into a TV and the mac mini with a monitor or the iMac as two different devices plugged into two different screens as it would save me the hassle of switching between the Mac Mini and Console every single time I want to use the iMac or Console
@svg03
@svg03 3 года назад
@@krgamingx2111 most of the time it is just one or two presses when you want to switch input, are you that lazy?🤣
@krgamingx2111
@krgamingx2111 3 года назад
@@svg03 on my monitor every time you switch imput you have to change the color settings, contrast, and brightness as well becuase that is what it requires so most of the time it is not just a couple clicks it takes like 5-10 mins each time. I have one of those Monoprice monitors and it is so frustrating
@watrobkasmaczna1
@watrobkasmaczna1 3 года назад
Gaming on Mac, jesus, who came up with that shit? 😂
@skyshabatura7876
@skyshabatura7876 3 года назад
I use dual monitors, and having them be identical is important. This automatically makes the Mini a better choice for me. My two Dell 4k monitors will fit my needs longer than my 2018 Mac Mini will.
@rthilson
@rthilson 2 года назад
Except the mini doesn’t support two 4k
@derekkelly485
@derekkelly485 2 года назад
See I have a silver imac 24” with a new silver studio display. Other than the white vs black Apple logo on the back they look nearly identical from the back.
@skyshabatura7876
@skyshabatura7876 2 года назад
@@rthilson 2018 Intel Mac Mini does indeed run dual 4k monitors.
@rthilson
@rthilson 2 года назад
Except the video is for the M1 Mac mini
@zorlix130
@zorlix130 2 года назад
@@rthilson I'm pretty sure the Mini does support two displays, one up to 4k 60Hz from the HDMI port and one up to 6k 60Hz from Thunderbolt.
@carlosr1176
@carlosr1176 3 года назад
Upgrading what you connect to a mini and price it way above an iMac is great for people who will replace that mini years later for a MacBook Pro. The problem with the iMac is that apple decides what you can do with it and is costly for people who don’t need what apple thinks you need. The mini is more like older systems that still retained some sort of flexibility. The more they lock us out of changing or expanding them the less worthy they are of owning for that reason.
@harvardford8752
@harvardford8752 3 года назад
I’m a designer so for me 99%srgb accuracy matters a lot, the iMac display is AMAZING, but it does falter a little specially when you’re checking colour overlap allowance. So Mac mini is sadly the only option for me.
@danielsaadi803
@danielsaadi803 3 года назад
Mac Mini with an Apple Thunderbolt 27 Display, now that’s what I would do.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 3 года назад
If you can get your hands on one, at a decent price that would be a solid combo
@malfaro3l
@malfaro3l 3 года назад
That’s exactly the setup I grabbed for the family. All you need is a Thunderbolt 2 to 3 single and you are good to go. The display looks great, the Thunderbolt hub on the display is really helpful and lets me put the mini where it can’t be seen, and even though the camera and mic aren’t the best, they work in a pinch. Once you add a mechanical keyboard and an mx master 3, it’s probably not “cheaper”, but it is pretty great. I’ve also been thinking about getting a Twelvesouth “backpack” to REALLY hide the mini. But I’m not there yet.
@IAmZen_007
@IAmZen_007 3 года назад
Mac Mini with M1 + full option memory + Dell Ultrasharp monitor
@thecarcanuck1951
@thecarcanuck1951 3 года назад
That is what I have , I bought it last year for 100$ and it’s mint, and I use 2 b&o s3 speakers hooked to a dac, Magic Mouse and trackpad
@amberbernstein385
@amberbernstein385 2 года назад
I have that display. Why is it so coveted?
@JKNProductions
@JKNProductions 3 года назад
For me a Mac Mini would be the best. For my wife the iMac would be the best.
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan 3 года назад
This is a great example of why Apple still makes the Mac mini and the iMac, different people prefer different form factors
@fishheist9902
@fishheist9902 3 года назад
@@ConorORegan Exactly. They both have different target consumers.
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 3 года назад
Helps when you already own a big monitor and BT keyboard/mouse.
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
iMac display, apart for fancy useless white bazel, is lucid, pretty impossible to work with light and reflects in the room. So if you don't want to get stuck and see lights reflects anyway on monitor, you may prefer a MATT display like BenQ PD2500Q Monitor per Designer 25 Pollici QHD, 2560 x 1440 QHD, CAD/CAM, Darkroom Mode, Low Blue Light, Flicker-Free, uncle dog and pork.
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 3 года назад
@@macblu8637 The problem with gloss displays is overblown. I worked for years on the Macbook Pro with zero issue. If there was a bright window behind you, move the laptop 2˚ and fixed.
@vartikcsaba
@vartikcsaba 3 года назад
Try to clean the dust out of the fan of the imac at home.
@reallyfamousyoutuber
@reallyfamousyoutuber 3 года назад
I have the yellow iMac and I high key love it (mainly because of the nostalgia factor)... now i see this guy's green one and suddenly I freaking *need* it in green too. i have a problem. please send help.
@marcel9568
@marcel9568 3 года назад
Buy some green paint.
@reallyfamousyoutuber
@reallyfamousyoutuber 3 года назад
@@marcel9568 love the hack suggestion 😂 I want the yellow one too though 😂😂 because I have a problem
@romusicxs
@romusicxs 3 года назад
Girl be grateful I have been waiting for my iMac for 2 months like at this point I’m never gonna get it
@BaoNguyen-lx2zr
@BaoNguyen-lx2zr 3 года назад
buy all the color paints
@usshehewe
@usshehewe 3 года назад
@@reallyfamousyoutuber get water paint. just wipe it down when you're bored of green and paint it back when you want it haha
@sohamdhiman09
@sohamdhiman09 3 года назад
I watched 2 full ads of 3 minutes, just to support Luke cuz he deserves it👍🏻
@sohamdhiman09
@sohamdhiman09 3 года назад
Hi Luke Miani😂
@lukemiani
@lukemiani 3 года назад
🙏🙌
@miguelmontoya1320
@miguelmontoya1320 3 года назад
And here I am a jerk with uBlock Origin.
@ghejnuni
@ghejnuni 3 года назад
@@miguelmontoya1320 at least try to support yters you like in other ways
@jaxsonzatech7527
@jaxsonzatech7527 3 года назад
@@lukemiani should I stop skipping ads then I didn’t know you tuber make less
@torontosteve
@torontosteve 3 года назад
I already have a screen, so mini would be cheaper for me ,regardless of set up
@LilPeener
@LilPeener 2 года назад
My Mac mini setup is the base model, the iPad Air as a display using a wireless adapter, using the magic keyboard, Apple Pencil, and mouse as inputs. It’s a very clean setup and I love it for drawing art
@litebkt
@litebkt 3 года назад
I tend to keep my hardware for ten years or more. I decided to go with a Mac Mini. I really wanted the iMac but if I'm going to have a failure, I'd rather be able to replace the faulty component. Also, I really wanted to try a 27" screen. And with the larger screen, I needed a deeper desk. All said and done, I spent more on my setup. I don't know whether I regret it yet or not. It turns out that I need an expansion device either way and the one I got is the same form factor as the Mac Mini. It looks like part of the machine and it holds a backup disk. Still, that iMac is such a beautiful thing and would have been such a nice looking thing in my room.
@victorrussell6284
@victorrussell6284 2 года назад
I’m thinking the same. If the new M1 Macs prove unreliable after a few years it would be cheaper to just replace a Mini.
@litebkt
@litebkt 2 года назад
@@victorrussell6284 I have a 2014 mini that is still useful. I plan on using these machines for a very long time. But I don't do stuff that requires horsepower. All of that ended when I retired.
@ascendantP
@ascendantP 3 года назад
M1 macbook has everything included and you can hook up a external monitor to behave like a mac mini
@FlandraLabs
@FlandraLabs 3 года назад
Fewer ports, higher price, and thermal throttling.
@riccardobrandolini2545
@riccardobrandolini2545 3 года назад
@@FlandraLabs and battery and a screen and portability and Touch ID and many more
@PanosPitsi
@PanosPitsi 3 года назад
@@riccardobrandolini2545 it costs 700 euros extra and you can find a 4k screen a mouse and a keyboard of better quality for much cheaper
@PanosPitsi
@PanosPitsi 3 года назад
@@riccardobrandolini2545 I hate Apple pet boards I can only use mechanical anyways and before you say anything I'm typing this one an iPhone 12 prob
@PanosPitsi
@PanosPitsi 3 года назад
@@riccardobrandolini2545 it's just that my fingers are like claws 😂
@CRV1958
@CRV1958 2 года назад
" Bit of a different Experience" ..... Lol !!!! Great delivery on that line. Thanks for posting.
@riazali4362
@riazali4362 3 года назад
At the end of the day the iMac is a cleaner, neater package, but the deal breaker is the size of the screen. As good as the screen is, it's just too small for 3+ years of use. If it was a 27 inch it would be a no brainier for me even at a premium. But during every day use, especially for immersion and content creation 28+ is better, especially considering the customization. With the iMac you're locked in with everything, in a year or two we'll be seeing 4K webcams etc. With the Mac Mini, you can buy what you like upfront, then upgrade the computer to it's max specs the next cycle around. Either way you can't go wrong with wither it depends on your use. But for most enthusiasts, I would advise that, since this is the first iteration of M1, play it safe to get into the ecosystem with the Mac Mini and find good deals for the peripherals you like (or own already and save more money), and good cable management. Once you see how the M chips go over the next few years, you can invest in a new Mini or depending on how much money you have a 27 - 32 inch iMac.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 3 года назад
Exactly. Big reason i went Mini
@trashbeansoup2467
@trashbeansoup2467 3 года назад
The iMac is terrific but it is aimed at non-Pro, non Graphic Designers as much as you wish it wasn't. Neither the M1 Mac mini nor the M1 iMac 24" are for me. But Apple is dragging the chain on larger iMacs with better M1 chips. I'm waiting for a new 30" iMac, a Macbook Pro without the Touchbar, and the next model iPad. Apple is not getting my money until then.
@humancaos
@humancaos 3 года назад
I just bought a new mac mini last month actually it's the intel version. main reason is it could be upgraded and I put 64 gigs of ram in. I can use what ever monitor I want and when I need to get a new in a few years I can choose a new mini or go PC without the need to change my whole setup
@nickbrough8335
@nickbrough8335 3 года назад
I would have waited for the M1X mac mini myself. Better performance at the same price, especially as its only weeks away (probably).
@humancaos
@humancaos 3 года назад
@@nickbrough8335 but potentially my music DAW's will be running rosetta for some time. they only now releasing a version that is 4k graphic so I don't expect them be natively M1 anytime soon
@mbvglider
@mbvglider 3 года назад
@@humancaos I've been hearing horror stories about Logic Pro in Rosetta, so I've kept running Logic Pro on a 2018 Intel i3 Mini and not used my M1 MacBook Air for recording at all. Then, I was like, this is ridiculous, why am I assuming that other people on the Internet know what they're doing? I went ahead and installed all my plugins on my M1 Air, and started Logic Pro in Rosetta (you do have to run the whole thing in Rosetta), and guess what, it worked 100%, no problem at all. Every single plugin worked just fine, and it ran faster than my Intel Mini did by a mile. And with about 30 tracks, many of them using pretty heavy plugins, I was able to get steady playback without having to freeze or bounce any audio as long as I wasn't doing anything in the background, and this with only 8 gigs of RAM. Obviously, though, in a real-life situation outside of a torture test, I would have bounced a few of those tracks, but anyway, I was shocked. The M1 is so stacked that it's actually faster in Rosetta than the i3 is natively. Not sure how it would stack up to the i5 and i7 Minis, but the M1 has been a better recording computer than my 16" Core i9 8-core, which I sold because what's the point of a recording computer that has loud fans? At least the Intel Minis stay quiet, though they're scalding hot under any load.
@humancaos
@humancaos 3 года назад
@@mbvglider next one probable will be an M something, but for now I stick with the Intel
@nickbrough8335
@nickbrough8335 3 года назад
@@humancaos Yes, I guess m1 transitioning is too much trouble for some mac user base sizes
@rtcurtis5858
@rtcurtis5858 3 года назад
With your encouragement from the past, I added a 500 GB SSD to a 2012 21.5" bottom end Imac, and with low impact uses , web browsing, RU-vid, etc, it compares very favorably to my expectant uses from a new Imac model. Thanks!!
@MrMan-vn7rg
@MrMan-vn7rg 3 года назад
I love how u put a logo on the front of the 23.5 inch iMac on the the thumbnail
@Col_MULLY
@Col_MULLY Год назад
I went Mini last Xmas and feel that it's the best move I've ever made. Went from a 21.5in iMac (2011). I've had ZERO problems editing videos or music. Love this thing!!
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 3 года назад
Some people already have extra hardware from multiple other systems, I think that is one of the real keys for the Mini.
@Kevin6t8
@Kevin6t8 3 года назад
This is the very reason I purchased the Mini.
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
surely better hardware than a ridicolous 24" display in 2021 or magic mouse, unusable when you want to work hard.
@dactylpilot4383
@dactylpilot4383 3 года назад
I'm leaning towards the iMac. Since my current Mac is a 2010 MacPro 5.1, I think that the iMac will be HUGE Improvement for a decent price.
@williamburkholder769
@williamburkholder769 2 года назад
Audio jack on the side is a blessing, not a curse. I hated fumbling around on the back of my iMac to find the audio jack and the SD card and an empty USB port. I want the headphone jack and SDXC slots on the FRONT. Add a USB-A and a USB-C (Thunderbolt 4/USB4) port on the front, too. Aesthetics are nice, but practicality rules. FUNCTION over form, Apple!
@andrefelixstudio2833
@andrefelixstudio2833 3 года назад
Great video. Get the Mac mini if you already have all the other stuff to plug-in, if you don’t go for the iMac 24”.
@wladfiggs
@wladfiggs 3 года назад
There's gotta be someone from apple watching this video. So here it goes: WE WANT THAT SD SLOT BACK. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
@lefthanded0440
@lefthanded0440 3 года назад
Already having all the other equipment, I can see how the mini would be better for me, although something about the matching/all in one single cable setup of the iMac is very attractive short term
@cameronsharon9617
@cameronsharon9617 2 года назад
I am a pc guy but you are the only person who posts mac videos that I can watch and be very entertained. I’m thinking of trying out an m1 Mac mini.
@toriasummers2670
@toriasummers2670 2 года назад
Fabulous video my friend - entertaining, informative and not at all patronising as I find some other videos. However, I still can’t make my mind up between the two! 🤪🤪🇬🇧🇬🇧
@left4d0g
@left4d0g 3 года назад
As for me - I was deciding between iMac and Mac Mini for the music production studio setup, After some considerations, I went with the Mac Mini, because it’s easier and cheaper to upgrade my setup down the line. It’s cheaper and easier to switch up the Mac Mini in a set up with a new one down the line, while keeping your display, keyboard and mouse, instead of getting the whole new “package” once every few years. If I had to pick a new iMac in let’s say three years - it’s another 1500 dollars I’d have to pay for it, if I had to pick a new Mac Mini - I’d just have to pay 600-800$ for a new one, while keeping all of the stuff I had. Heck, if I wanted to get a new Mac Pro - that’s literally switching the computer part of set up and replugging the cables.
@br1an_b
@br1an_b 3 года назад
Wow, you’re knocking it out of the park in terms of your production value and overall video quality. Thank you for another great video!!
@trashbeansoup2467
@trashbeansoup2467 3 года назад
There are reasons to choose one over the other, but trying to save money by building up a Mac mini is not one of them. This is my detailed costing from *Created Tech* (he keeps removing anything that contradicts his claims). These are Created Tech's recommendations, not mine: *Mac mini M1* 8-Core CPU, 8-Core GPU, 256GB SSD, 8GB unified memory Gb ethernet US $699/ disc US $629 + Dell UltraSharp U2720Q 27" 4K 3840 x 2160 px 350 nits US $779.99 / LG 27UK650-W 27" 4k 3840 x 2160 px 350 nits US $346.99 + Wireless Keyboard - Keychron k6 Bluetooth 5.1 Keyboard US$69.99 / Logitech MX Keys US $98 + Wireless Mouse - Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless Mouse US $99 + 1080p camera/Microphone - Anker PowerConf C300 US $130 + Speakers/Headphones - Audia-Technica ATH-M30x Headphones $US 69 + Sabrent bracket US $14.98 + HDMI Cable US$10 + Velcro Tape US$10 TOTAL US $1428.96 to US $1889.97. [Discounted: TOTAL US $1358.96 to US $1819.97] *iMac 24" M1* 8-Core, CPU 8-Core GPU, 256GB SSD, 8GB unified memory Gb ethernet US$1499/ disc US$1349 24-inch 4.5K Retina display 4480 x 2520 px 500 nits Two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports Two USB 3 ports HiFi speakers 1080p camera and microphone Magic Keyboard with Touch ID. Magic Mouse TOTAL US $1499 [Discounted: TOTAL US $1349] Having opted for markedly inferior displays, the mouse using up one USB port for its dongle, and creating a Chinese laundry basket of tech, you are paying: TOTAL US $70 saving or $391 MORE [Discounted: US $29.96 to US $490.97 MORE] Adding the extra RAM and/or SSD that you really need, does not make the argument any better for the Mac mini. Don't forget that because the display is built in on the iMac that means the iMac effectively has an extra Thunderbolt port over the Mac mini.
@DGBAntho
@DGBAntho 3 года назад
Congratulations on being very early!
@gerard3797
@gerard3797 2 года назад
As long as you go for the 16GB instead of the 8GB memory M1, you should be fine with both machines. Standard memory use for the average user is about 10 - 12 GB in M1 MacOs. If you buy the 8GB version you will always result with a SWAP file of about 2-4GB that will stress your SSD in the long run. SWAP file use (SSD 3Gb/s) is also about 20 times slower than RAM memory (60Gb/s), although the difference is less notable than on Intel machines, because memory management is smarter. This SMART feature, however, also results in the SWAP file being continuously changed, hence resulting in very high SDD read/writes of easily a few TB per week. Although the SSD should handle this in the long run, I think the 8GB should only be bought if you really have to save that money. From a longevity/durability perspective I think Apple should have included the 16GB as standard. Ps. I prefer Mac Mini in my office and iMac in my living room. I think Apple should also expand their Monitor line-up, with cheaper displays under their own brand name. The LG displays are excellent but they don't fit the design language of the new iMac and Mac Mini. I think the Apple display PPI is a necessity to use with MacOS.
@jjinnyc75
@jjinnyc75 3 года назад
The 24" iMac is good for my needs but Luke was right though when it comes to the screen. It ended up being a little small coming from a 27". But like Luke's my 27" was also 2K only so I appreciate the higher resolution and more color accuracy on the iMac display. The display is so nice I deal with it being a little smaller. Plus I prefer glossy over matte something Luke forgot to mention. If you go with a Mac mini you'll end up spending more than the iMac when trying to find a monitor equally as good as the one on the iMac. BenQ, LG, etc. I think 4K glossy monitors are not easy to find either. At least a high quality one. The only one I know is the LG Ultrafine and we all know how much they can run. I'm good for now with the iMac. I love it. So convenient. Speakers are supringlgy good, display albeit a little small is fantastic and see how I'll feel with the pro models come out.
@alexpillayfilms
@alexpillayfilms Год назад
Jason, thank you for sharing your thoughts on it and Luke thanks for making this video. I was confused between iMac & Mac mini but looking at the video & comments have solved my confusion, If I buy iMac I will get all in one with better quality and long run & mini is also good but you will end in searching Monitor & spend more.
@HobbyhavenKL
@HobbyhavenKL 3 года назад
For an average consumer, IMac is the way to go. It is not expensive once we added up all the extras.
@eWhizz
@eWhizz 3 года назад
Horses for courses. The biggest thing that catches people out is lack of webcam and speakers in the mini. By the time you have added these and a reasonable quality screen, you are spending a lot more than the iMac.
@shinrasboy
@shinrasboy 3 года назад
I went back-and-forth on this like crazy. For my personal use case, I just went with the mini with 16 gigs of RAM. The iMac display is beautiful and everything but the fact that I can’t really do much means I’m just losing a monitor and some versatility.
@nathanmielke1977
@nathanmielke1977 2 года назад
Great video. I've been fighting this over for a few weeks. I bought a mac mini for my dad. He's got a monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers that he likes (albeit that its not a 4k monitor, but he likes the typewriter USB keyboard that he has as well as the rocking Klispch 2.1 pro media that I bought him 3 years ago for Christmas). He doesn't want to spend anymore money than necessary to "upgrade" his 10 year old machine. I've been pushing him into the Apple ecosystem (already has the iphone/ipad thing going). Went with the mac mini. Solid little machine. Your video helped confirmed my bias. Same machine, different use cases. Some like heads, others like tails.
@snarkyguy
@snarkyguy 2 года назад
I've had more iMacs than I can shake a hat at (not really sure why I want to shake a hat at my computer) but recently when I upgraded from my old 27" iMac, I got the Mac Mini M1. Paired it with a Dell 27" monitor and I'm McLoving it.
@mizshellytee
@mizshellytee 3 года назад
For me, Mac mini. I can use pretty much whatever monitor, mouse, and keyboard I want, and I can get a stand/hub that sits underneath with various ports in the front (including USB-A and an SD card slot, both of which I need).
@Charles-ri6nd
@Charles-ri6nd 3 года назад
Satechi Stand & Hub
@Technocrat.
@Technocrat. 3 года назад
Luke your expecting the impossible. Your expecting people to think!!! Beyond what they think they know!
@shrey768
@shrey768 3 года назад
Now that's apples to apples comparison
@the_7th_knight207
@the_7th_knight207 3 года назад
Good video. However, for me it was clear: Mac Mini (16GB, 1TB), Mx Master Mac, Mx Keys Mac, Benq EW3280u (4K) costs me in total 2,330€ iMac (16GB, 1TB) costs 2,360€ So the Mac mini setup has a much bigger display, better mouse and costs 30€ less (which is nothing really worth mentioning). However, I can also easily plug the display to any other MacBook or Surface or whatever, which I do regulary …
@tcp124
@tcp124 3 года назад
iMac for me,Its just the designs of them which disappoint me but with an iMac all I have to do is plug it in and thats it, with the mac mini I need a power cable and a monitor which im not gonna spend another 400 for
@IAmZen_007
@IAmZen_007 3 года назад
You here me saying “I’m not sponsored to get all this devices. I need to buy them all myself” 😳
@AyeNash727
@AyeNash727 3 года назад
uhh, why does 480p look so good? also 4k is scary......
@CasualViewer-t4f
@CasualViewer-t4f 3 года назад
I think it’s rather simple. Do you have a 4K monitor already? Get the mini. If you don’t have a nice monitor, get the iMac.
@xinaesthetic
@xinaesthetic 3 года назад
I thought maybe you might get around to touching on the e-waste aspect at least briefly here. Makes the iMac seem a bit less “clean” as far as I’m concerned - not in a way that negates all other points, but it shouldn’t be ignored.
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 3 года назад
I just retired my Mini and got the 24” iMac. Both of them are great computers. It really depends on how much you need simplicity or how much you need a more custom setup. If you get the iMac just go ahead and spend the extra $200 for all 8 GPU cores, Two more ports on the back, Touch ID, and Ethernet. Also the 24” display is amazing. I’ve never had such a nice display.
@Vopadevas
@Vopadevas 3 года назад
I love the simplicity of the iMac and I REALLY hope Apple comes out with a bigger screen.
@MadBert
@MadBert 2 года назад
With the Mac Mini I can use the same monitor, speaker set, mouse and keyboard not just for the Mac mini but also for my gaming PC and PS5 thanks to a switcher. Speakers plugged in to my monitor, Mac Mini, PC and PS5 plugged in to my monitor and keyboard an mouse (you can use the bluetooth compatible peripherals for the three of them) or as me use wired keyboard and mouse with a switcher that plugs to the PC, mac an PS5 unifying every USB port. This way every sound that goes to the monitor goes out though my main speakers regarthless the platform and every device can be controlled with the same keyboard and mouse. I wouldn't be able to do that with the iMac at all. I would need a separate everything
@pierren2960
@pierren2960 3 года назад
I already decided to go with the Mac Mini. I use a 27“ curved display, an Apple Magic keyboard and a very comfortable mouse with my mid 2015 MacBook Pro. So all I need is just a new computer to replace my current MacBook. But For now, I want to wait to see if a new version of the Mac Mini will be released by the end of this year. If so, I would go with the new version.
@robertbrianheath1629
@robertbrianheath1629 3 года назад
Very Good Points! .. One more is that you can Actually move the IMac from Room to Room with ease because it is not as Weighty as Previous Imacs ☝️
@jpdemer5
@jpdemer5 2 года назад
Light weight, and only the one cord. Moving my Mini around would be a half-hour project, with all the stuff plugged into it.
@horus6915
@horus6915 3 года назад
Mac Mini 🚀 More versatile. I choose my display, much better.
@MsToshi1990
@MsToshi1990 3 года назад
As long as your Display is not 4.5k resolution and fully P3 and Adobe RGB accurate it is not better than what is in the iMac.
@fishheist9902
@fishheist9902 3 года назад
@MsToshi1990 True. BUT can just pair it with Apple's *Pro Display XDR* if you want *QUALITY* display. But the bells and whistles the iMac display has *doesn't really matter for the standard consumers.*
@horus6915
@horus6915 3 года назад
@@MsToshi1990 The advantage I have and Apple doesn't give it how the monitor is. I can choose in height, in depth, etc. Plus, a 2K is good enough for me, and when the iMac will become a garbage because slowness, I could change my Mac without throwing my monitor. The fact that the monitor and the hardware are together bother me.
@xers6704
@xers6704 3 года назад
@@MsToshi1990 bud it's a 700 dollar difference between Mac mini and imac. I'm sure you can find your own display with better specs.
@nou4605
@nou4605 3 года назад
@@MsToshi1990 You don't know much about monitors do you. Just drinking up the kool aid Apple sells
@eWhizz
@eWhizz 3 года назад
The LG, Dell and Philips USB-C screens with built-in speakers and webcam are a good pairing.
@CKdunno
@CKdunno 3 года назад
7:26 that’s what she said
@gaiamagi1
@gaiamagi1 3 года назад
At least the Mac mini doesn't have a crooked display that makes it fall over.
@warrenfantom666
@warrenfantom666 3 года назад
What?
@lukemiani
@lukemiani 3 года назад
Ok I don’t think they have been falling over…
@gaiamagi1
@gaiamagi1 3 года назад
@@lukemiani take a look at the iMacs leaning over to the right. it's a known defect that apple is still ignoring, plug in a few things and just see what happens.
@gaiamagi1
@gaiamagi1 3 года назад
@@warrenfantom666 sadly yes. Apple needs to figure this out and probably offer replacements. I was able to return mine in time thankfully.
@jtit2025
@jtit2025 3 года назад
The iMac screen is equivalent to a 600 dollar monitor so it's worth it
@maxroman2010
@maxroman2010 3 года назад
You can use Bluetooth speakers with either. Just plug them into a power socket. (Ports aren’t occupied).
@kinkysaru769
@kinkysaru769 2 года назад
Lol at the emphasised cut-away at 4:53
@markyastion3860
@markyastion3860 3 года назад
M1 macs are amazing
@576turky
@576turky 3 года назад
for me i already have 32 2k Display "idc about 4k" and speakers and Mic and K&M so i could take the mac mini and use it nicely with my PC and if new M2 came i could upgrade without any problem with same setup and less price
@lancer1993
@lancer1993 3 года назад
That's one plus with the Mini, in a couple of years get the next faster version for lower cost and sell off the M1 Mini.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO 3 года назад
God damn 1080p and 32 inches that's horrible. I could not live without 4K at that screen size. You're an absolute madlad.
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
iMac display, apart for fancy useless white bazel, is lucid, pretty impossible to work with light and reflects in the room. So if you don't want to get stuck and see lights reflects anyway on monitor, you may prefer a MATT display like BenQ PD2500Q Monitor per Designer 25 Pollici QHD, 2560 x 1440 QHD, CAD/CAM, Darkroom Mode, Low Blue Light, Flicker-Free, uncle dog and pork.
@macblu8637
@macblu8637 3 года назад
you're right, it's a lot more practical to send on Apple Care, rather that to close and send an Imac with all packaging. Absolutely right for monitor and keyboards, you can choose the best and left the fancy keyboard and the horrible magic mouse to another one who wants to suffer badly.
@lancer1993
@lancer1993 3 года назад
@@macblu8637 I've used a Magic Trackpad for 9 years with the old iMac, much better and easier to switch to a MacBook. I don't know why Apple even sells the same magic mouse with the new iMac, instantly disabled the moment you need to charge it!
@pra.cent20
@pra.cent20 3 года назад
Thank you Luke 'Skywalker' Miami 😉
@JCatl3y
@JCatl3y 2 года назад
Thing is once you buy the Mac Mini, a decent keyboard, mouse and monitor, you might as well have gotten the iMac instead.
@denislisul5893
@denislisul5893 3 года назад
Well, i bought both of them! :)
@lukemiani
@lukemiani 3 года назад
That’s one approach!
@fablewalls
@fablewalls 3 года назад
You getting an iPad Pro so you can do the transfer thing to your hearts content? Your money your choice but I fail to see why you want exactly the same processor twice?
@denislisul5893
@denislisul5893 3 года назад
@@fablewalls mac Mini on TV, home setup, and iMac for clean office setup!
@fablewalls
@fablewalls 3 года назад
@@denislisul5893 - Kind of makes sense... but the M1 mini is small enough to transport to office and have another screen there. Anyhow, what I would do is not what you want to do - we probably have different use cases.
@denislisul5893
@denislisul5893 3 года назад
@@fablewalls agreed. This is just my opinion, and works for me. I replaced last gen intel macbook air with M1 iMac. At home i can handle cables, but in my office, cordless is just better option.
@futurepastnow
@futurepastnow 3 года назад
the rarer colors of that mouse and keyboard will be worth a lot on ebay in 10 years
@MrLuigi-oi7gm
@MrLuigi-oi7gm 3 года назад
Great job! I have a Mac Mini b/c it better suites my needs. It is also SUPER CLEAN AND MINIMAL! I have two, 30" monitors mounted on articulated arms. So the monitors consume no space on my workstation. The Mini it's mounted under the table so it also consumes no space on my workstation. Two speakers...yep, mounted on the wall. No workstation space consumed. All I have on my desk is a keyboard and mouse. Oh, and a picture of my wife and daughter. ♥️♥️♥️
@Ninjadom
@Ninjadom 3 года назад
What’s the maximum refresh rate of the iMac screen? The M1 Mac mini can be set to refresh at 144Hz, or 120Hz with HDR, providing your display supports it and you use the correct cable.
@yagnaramankesava5325
@yagnaramankesava5325 3 года назад
For me Mac mini, Just 4K Monitor/TV Setup, Trackpad and magic keyboard ⌨️ simple!
@nickbrough8335
@nickbrough8335 3 года назад
plus speakers, web cam and cables...
@yagnaramankesava5325
@yagnaramankesava5325 3 года назад
Yes, I missed it
@nou4605
@nou4605 3 года назад
@@nickbrough8335 You do realize there are monitors with built in webcam and speakers?
@nickbrough8335
@nickbrough8335 3 года назад
@@nou4605 of course, but they're still more expensive than the base 4k 24 inch monitors and the quality wont be as good as any stand alone speaker web cam set.
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan 3 года назад
The Mac mini is my preferred option because it’s more affordable
@trapsarentgay4195
@trapsarentgay4195 3 года назад
Just say you’re broke
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan 3 года назад
@@trapsarentgay4195 I buy Apple products so I’m not really
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan 3 года назад
@@GHSTSTRSCRM exactly I just like to save money and I like the idea of using my own monitor
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan 3 года назад
@@scotsmanmike especially for video editing or logic 16gbs of ram is very handy
@Terencehogben
@Terencehogben 3 года назад
If you have a 4K monitor good keyboard mouse etc, agreed
@jefferyjones8399
@jefferyjones8399 2 года назад
I mostly want the iMac because I just want something all in one and I don’t have to think about it. To get a monitor, keyboard, etc. anywhere near the quality of Apple’s, you’ll be spending about the same if not more.
@chumbawumba1959
@chumbawumba1959 3 года назад
Its either "minimalist" (iMac) or "maximus" (Mini). One flaw in your analysis is that most folks who would go route of Mac Mini would typically have the requisite accessories (display, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc.). But, as you conclude - these are two solutions to two different requirements, and are def not the same thing! CANT GO WRONG ETHER WAY!!!
@Salty_Biscuitz88
@Salty_Biscuitz88 3 года назад
Both of em can perform exceptionally. It’s just what you want out of it. Like Luke said if you want all in one then get the IMac. If you already have a good monitor, keyboard and mouse then the Mac mini is just perfect. Both will work well.
@JessaCamacho
@JessaCamacho 2 года назад
I actually watched this video multiple times as I am struggling with which to get. I end up getting the mac mini m1, purchase a 4k resolution monitor, good quality camera and total expenses are way more expensive than the basic iMac but I did get the 16GB ram version of the Mac mini as I am struggling with the 8GB MacBook air m1 I used for 9 months. I think I did the right decision due to the following: screen size, price point compared to 16GB ram, and customization but I do adore the iMac! maybe if they release a 27-inch iMac with m1 then I might upgrade again to that. ahhahahaha
@strudercutie
@strudercutie 3 года назад
Damn my respect for you went through the roof when I saw that B&O Beosound M5 made a cameo
@steventiry8701
@steventiry8701 Год назад
I have my mini connected to a 4k TV. My entertainment center has a custom electric desk mechanism. When I want to use it for work, I just lower the desk part, which lowers the monitor. The sound system is my speakers. Raise it and it stores the keyboard and mouse, while making the TV ready. The mini is also my travel computer. I have the hard case that fits it all and a HDMI cable..
@jtit2025
@jtit2025 3 года назад
If you don't have a good monitor and keyboard mouse. Then get iMac. Getting all those seperate will cost more then the whole package together
@Cryptolorian
@Cryptolorian 2 года назад
After a hard days work, I can unplug the Mini and take it do bed with me, can I do that with the iMac? No!
@yreyez
@yreyez 3 года назад
is literary the same thing.. If you are smart, apple is just giving you the option to either have one package (iMac) hence the price higher.. The Mac mini on the other hand is giving you the option to use your own monitor keyboard and other accessories, hence why is cheaper.
@w0mblemania
@w0mblemania 2 года назад
Some history: the Mac mini was designed primarily to get PC users to switch to the Mac. The idea was that the PC user could keep all their screens and peripherals, and just buy a relatively cheap Mac, getting them in to the Mac ecosystem. It was never designed to be an all-in-one-system or a substitute for the iMac. Whereas the iMac was designed to be a complete desktop solution from day one, for both first-time computer buyers, and existing Apple customers. Which helps explains the hesitancy with which Apple treats the mini. It kinda-sorta helps grow the Mac platform, but it can also cannibalise from their iMac sales. So the mini has always lived on a tightrope. It can't be allowed to get so good that people will automatically buy it instead of a higher profit machine. Apple have deliberately built compromises in to each machine.
@kathleensnyder23
@kathleensnyder23 2 года назад
And then there's me, who just uses my MacBook Pro as my main machine, and uses a hub to just dock it to my main setup LOL
@stormrider01
@stormrider01 3 года назад
I don't know why there is a Mac Mini if you need to buy a display y mouse and keyboard! Then go for the iMac instead!
@kellyklaask7su990
@kellyklaask7su990 2 года назад
I just bought a loaded M1 Mac Mini, migrating from a Windows 7 computer for my voice over business. FIrst, the Mini blows the PC out of the water, but it's not a fair comparison since the PC is 8 years old. But I can't imagine restricting myself to a monitor/computer combo like the iMac. What if the monitor goes bad? Then the whole computer is dead. I don't know if you can add an external monitor to the iMac or not...never had an iMac. All in all, I LOVE the Mac Mini. It checks all my boxes for what I need. Maybe if I had used an iMac I would feel differently. But I HAVE used a PC and all I can say is I am a Mac convert. I will probably never go back to the PC for voice over work...and I've only had the Mac for a week. I still have PCs for other work in the house. I'm used to the Windows way of doing things which is sometimes confusing when trying to do the same thing on the Mac...but I'm learning. Thanks for the video and thanks for letting me drone on and on.
@Liveeachdaytothefullest
@Liveeachdaytothefullest Год назад
Please get the Mac Mini and here is why: 1) you can hook it up to whatever monitor you wish 2) all in one computer have a huge risk. Lets say if your iMac's screen does not work, gets dead pixels, scratches and other bad stuff what are you going to do? all you can do is take it and pay to get it fixed. 3) the mac mini can be portable and you can take it on the road easily and hook it up to whatever display but you can't take the imac on the go.
@JohnKrill
@JohnKrill 2 года назад
Fewer ad breaks this time around. Good. What I want to say is when I went from windows laptop to the Mac mini all I did was plug the cal digit hub into the Mac mini and now my monitor, printer, 5 mass storage devices, speakers, Wacom tablet ready to go. That was easy.
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu 3 года назад
Only concern with any all in one, is if the monitor dumps, you lose the use of the computer while the monitor is being repaired. With the Mini, just upgrade to a new monitor.
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 3 года назад
Ha Ha Ha...this is so funny. For about 15 years people have been saying that, the mac mini is for "first time" Apple computer users and, I have been saying no, they are wrong. Why, because I have always felt an All-in-One desktop is better for a "first time" Apple user because everything you need comes right inside the box, set-up is easy, and it all just works. In 1996, when buying my first desktop Apple's marketing brochure showed two external speakers on the model that, I had selected. However, when my All-in-One 5400 desktop arrived it included a pair of built-in speakers, 15-inch Sony CRT, built-in modem, CD-ROM, floppy drive, Apple internal video card system, Apple internal TV/FM radio card system with matching black remote control, keyboard, and mouse.
@trashbeansoup2467
@trashbeansoup2467 3 года назад
I've done the costings and no-way can you build up a Mac mini to match the iMac without spending a LOT more money.
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 3 года назад
you mean matching the mac mini?
@trashbeansoup2467
@trashbeansoup2467 3 года назад
@@samjam6989 What I've said is clear. No. What you've said, I have no idea.
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