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@certifiedweeb3767
@certifiedweeb3767 4 года назад
Zelda with Phantom Knight: Oh you're approaching me? Joker with Arsene: I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer.
@josephBo
@josephBo 4 года назад
Zelda is super boring to watch
@xOwlBear
@xOwlBear 4 года назад
@@josephBo What else do you want to see from a low tier character and with the kit the character has?
@josephBo
@josephBo 4 года назад
@@xOwlBear I get that Zelda is mainly played that way. I do get it, but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. And just because a character is low-tier, doesn't mean they have to be a zoner
@ronglurak9892
@ronglurak9892 4 года назад
@@josephBo he did mention Zeldas kit she is a zoner
@xOwlBear
@xOwlBear 4 года назад
@@josephBo It's totally fine that you don't enjoy "x" thing but that doesn't mean that "x" person needs to play the way you want. High competitive players knows what they are doing and the reason for of it.
@HolyCrepe
@HolyCrepe 4 года назад
3:47 LEO IS SUCH A NINJA
@HolyCrepe
@HolyCrepe 4 года назад
i've never seen joker's tether cancel used in such a flashy way
@Cinnamstt
@Cinnamstt 4 года назад
@@HolyCrepe I want to learn how to do that
@bigcrescendo
@bigcrescendo 4 года назад
How did he do that I was wondering how he dropped off ledge backwards to do a bair
@HolyCrepe
@HolyCrepe 4 года назад
@OSA right on!
@nevertechdose7884
@nevertechdose7884 4 года назад
@@Cinnamstt when the grappling hook touches the ledge, press down on the joystick 2 times (do it quickly) and there you have it, tether is cancelled without fast falling to your death lol
@WardofSquid
@WardofSquid 4 года назад
8:25 *A girl Pats Ven's head in the back* , lol ! 🤣
@仙风-r3t
@仙风-r3t 4 года назад
SO CUTE!
@shagunbhalla3914
@shagunbhalla3914 4 года назад
Lol
@CodecMoment
@CodecMoment 4 года назад
Ven is the Zelda player to watch. Very strong player. It was unfortunate he had to play MKLeo in pools but I'm also glad I got to see these two play
@lukeblaker8009
@lukeblaker8009 4 года назад
This event is busted, every top player had to play eachother in pools, nobody got a by and this was winners finals of pools to get into 128
@mattbergz2791
@mattbergz2791 4 года назад
luke blaker ven isnt a top player doe😂👌🏿
@bardw.1542
@bardw.1542 4 года назад
He performed extremely well, considering his opponent.
@SexyLegs9773
@SexyLegs9773 4 года назад
Ven was decently close to beating leo. If he could have got the sweet spot of lightning kick a few more times he woulda had it I think
@jijmotorp3079
@jijmotorp3079 4 года назад
ven is the only zelda player
@Nini_bats
@Nini_bats 4 года назад
Mkleo was amazing as always, but Ven killed it! Most entertaining Zelda I've seen in a bit!
@Nini_bats
@Nini_bats 4 года назад
Mystearica is also a fantastic Zelda👌
@josephBo
@josephBo 4 года назад
Zelda is never entertaining... lol. If your character depends on you camping the ledge then it's not entertaining
@Sean-fz8if
@Sean-fz8if 4 года назад
@@josephBo Nah wii fit's really entertaining
@josephBo
@josephBo 4 года назад
@@Sean-fz8if Wii fit isnt as much of a camper as Zelda is. Zelda relies on zoning and I get that, but... It doesnt mean I have to enjoy watching it. It's boring as hell. I want to see good plays and combos, not someone accidentally drop shield or run into Zelda and die. Notice how Ven was down a stock and STILL went straight to the ledge to camp. Like dude youre down a stock and u still want Leo to come to you?? Lmao
@Batlas_YT
@Batlas_YT 4 года назад
Joseph Chung I hope he thinks it's as "entertaining" to fight one as much as to watch one lmao
@alfonshedstrom9859
@alfonshedstrom9859 4 года назад
The fact that Leos joker even uses the gun as a small combo extension to maximize damage just shows how toptiers evolve sometimes
@keeni.8431
@keeni.8431 4 года назад
M E T A
@goopber
@goopber 4 года назад
Vegas would've rendered the venue unusable if ven won.
@julietv4275
@julietv4275 4 года назад
Leo is very good , also great to see Ven developed Zelda skills to the maximum.
@avalossalvador8613
@avalossalvador8613 4 года назад
I think the only one rooting for Leo was Gluttony in the background lol
@saotomebuster
@saotomebuster 4 года назад
Avalos Salvador nah he’s very familiar. He actually lost to a Japanese zelda when he was just starting joker.
@Jl2damax
@Jl2damax 4 года назад
Omg I loved that, Gluto is a true bro. Also I think you’re right. Leo probably isn’t too familiar with this matchup at high level play even if he did lose to a Zelda before like the previous commentor stayed. For the simple fact there aren’t many people playing Zelda at a high level
@thea.-
@thea.- 4 года назад
Imagine if the Zelda buff and joker nerf had happened before this
@darkyu3229
@darkyu3229 3 года назад
Same result
@ojutay8375
@ojutay8375 3 года назад
Same result
@SG-_-245
@SG-_-245 3 года назад
Same result
@ejstephens7918
@ejstephens7918 4 года назад
Ven has now taken games off of Leo, Samsora, Void, Pandarian, and Salem, as well as sets off of MVD, Esam, and Elegant. He's not quite a PGR player yet, but he's close. Definitely top 100.
@octosquidy4759
@octosquidy4759 4 года назад
for real, if zelda saw a single noteworthy buff ven could very well make his way up to the top
@okfrr2826
@okfrr2826 4 года назад
@@octosquidy4759 yo
@moonstruck6591
@moonstruck6591 4 года назад
@@octosquidy4759 Note worthy buff happened. Zelda now has the strongest Ftilt in the game, tying with inceneroar, and her phantom does an impressive percentage more
@DiddyKingLP
@DiddyKingLP 4 года назад
Bro imagine losing from Zelda with Joker and being number 1. Ven is amazing.
@benjaminknorzer9253
@benjaminknorzer9253 4 года назад
Very happy to see Ven still play Zelda, always nice to get some gameplay ideas for her from him. Nice match btw, almost got Leo ;)
@calvinbryant3237
@calvinbryant3237 4 года назад
Ven representing for Vegas. We have 6 locals a week out here and Ven cleans us out daily
@alextouchstone1334
@alextouchstone1334 3 года назад
As good as ven is, this was an insanely hard match-up because joker has everything to gain against Zelda's main damage options. Then he's playing Leo.
@skii_mask_
@skii_mask_ Год назад
and he STILL made it looks possible.
@sivalletto9079
@sivalletto9079 4 года назад
it's too easy playing the S tier character for every smash game that comes out, like Ven we should always play the characters that speak to us, instead of those that are stronger.
@clay2889
@clay2889 3 года назад
well said
@DrakeSteel23
@DrakeSteel23 4 года назад
was really hoping to see Leo Makarakarn the phantom knight back at Ven most of the time it get's reflected so fast and hits so hard it just kills Zelda at 50%
@walterkeene
@walterkeene 4 года назад
Doesn't work at high level play, any good Zelda would just neutral b and return it at 4x the strength while Joker is still on end lag from Makarakarn. Too risky of a play for a player of MkLeo's caliber to take.
@alexandergroman5840
@alexandergroman5840 4 года назад
Walter Keene he could definitely sneak one in there that shit is fast. And zeldas neutral b reflect comes out like frame 4 ?
@CodecMoment
@CodecMoment 4 года назад
@@airbear6028 Exactly what I was thinking. I thought he might do it, but Leo knows he can take a stock doing it the old-fashioned way rather than risking the Phantom being reflected back at him.
@Liezuli
@Liezuli 4 года назад
Nah, Ven was fishing for that. During match 1 he threw out a neutral B in case Leo reflected it, but Leo never went for it
@azurlune1877
@azurlune1877 4 года назад
Zelda players know the timing so the can just activate love to reflect it at x4 strength killing him at like 20
@Valk2003
@Valk2003 4 года назад
Ven! You did great you know how hard it is to take a stock or even a game off mk Leo that was sick dude! Keep on training and you’ll be able to beat him
@Valk2003
@Valk2003 4 года назад
The deepest puddle yeah but the man still did great
@ArtieatsRamen
@ArtieatsRamen 4 года назад
Yoooo I'm so proud of Ven!!!
@Starling2100
@Starling2100 4 года назад
Two of my favourite ultimate players, awesome to see them play
@fraweb897
@fraweb897 4 года назад
Man, Ven could've won. He just needed to make a couple of right decisions there and there. Fantastic play as always
@Joel-yr2cu
@Joel-yr2cu 4 года назад
No he had no chance bud
@SolunaPiano
@SolunaPiano 4 года назад
Sure but I think that applies to like pretty much anyone lol. Top players are at the top because they have the practice and experience to make the right plays the majority of the time, even in high-stress or unexpected situations.
@autocorrect6937
@autocorrect6937 4 года назад
@@Joel-yr2cu if only zelda had 0 weaknesses like joker
@smorgborg
@smorgborg 4 года назад
@@Joel-yr2cu he got leo to last game, last stock and you say he had no chance?
@Joel-yr2cu
@Joel-yr2cu 4 года назад
@@smorgborg leo wasn't even trying bro watch the gameplay
@shinygekkouga52
@shinygekkouga52 4 года назад
This is just a battle between two Persona wielders
@julien6546
@julien6546 4 года назад
I see that stand users are attracted by stand users
@dipshitsiclethemighty3054
@dipshitsiclethemighty3054 4 года назад
Lmao that guy at the beginning and TKbreezy’s reaction
@jothemasher4083
@jothemasher4083 4 года назад
The conquest begins
@RandomizerX3
@RandomizerX3 4 года назад
OMG VEN WON A GAME I WAS LIKE WHY AM I GONNA WATCH THIS IS IM JUST GONNA SEE MY SECOND FAVORITE SMASH PLAY JUST GET BODIED BUT HE WON A GAME
@naka4265
@naka4265 4 года назад
Leoジョーカーをゼルダで挑もうとするのスゴいな
@fidzschool2941
@fidzschool2941 4 года назад
GG’s Ven, good shit Leo.
@toxic_tournaments
@toxic_tournaments Год назад
Huge Leo fan, but I like this Zelda.
@okthen1296
@okthen1296 4 года назад
I really think MKLeo purposely lets a lot of matches be closer than they would be, so not to hurt the opponents pride. I've noticed with a lot of the small name players, if he completely dominates first game, he plays very noticably different for the folowing matches. Then if they actually get close to beating him, he kicks it up a gear and goes ahead and finishes them with the same ease as before. He was missing a lot of easy punishes and counter oppurtunities after game 1.
@strides777
@strides777 4 года назад
cmon bro don't be silly. Its a tournament intentionally sandbagging makes zero sense. Leo is just good at adapting
@firazahmed6892
@firazahmed6892 4 года назад
Why does it still say leo is sponsored by echo fox
@ilovevtubers1234
@ilovevtubers1234 4 года назад
3:47 What inputs do I do to perform a tether cancel like that? I’m a scrub soz
@CA-rg2wv
@CA-rg2wv 4 года назад
Look it up on RU-vid there’s lots of good guides. You gotta get the timing down. It’s basically pressing down at a certain point after starting the up b.
@bigman8733
@bigman8733 4 года назад
Why do they keep saying the Vegas crowd when they’re not in Vegas?
@hinaflower
@hinaflower 4 года назад
Ven is from Vegas, I assume the people cheering for him also travelled from Vegas to support him.
@slpydnswr
@slpydnswr 4 года назад
"where's the meat" is a Vegas chant
@BedrockBlocker
@BedrockBlocker 4 года назад
MKLeo with the Maschine Tag xD
@99AaroOn
@99AaroOn 4 года назад
eso es todo Leo, te rifas!!
@afromarco005
@afromarco005 4 года назад
beautiful games!
@Doomxeen
@Doomxeen 4 года назад
Pretty clooooooooose!
@nunnyu
@nunnyu 4 года назад
I'd like to see mkleo play a low tier as the best player, maybe pull a mid tier to high tier or something
@vecvecvec
@vecvecvec 4 года назад
Early in the meta he played Ike and the results were pretty good, Ike didn't go unnoticed in the meta like in Sm4sh. More recently he did the same thing with Marth, which REALLY gave us Marth mains some hope.
@vaquero2322
@vaquero2322 4 года назад
Why did they have to implement more comeback mechanics. Lucario’s comeback mechanic is ok because Lucario isn’t the best character. But my god, even Mac has a cancer comeback that isn’t fun to fight against. Joker and Terry are the best examples of cancer comeback mechanics though. Leo’s a good player but joker is so infuriating to watch.
@erimasuvonxiella7091
@erimasuvonxiella7091 4 года назад
I agree
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 4 года назад
Nice job giving me false hopes.
@SolidBrianH
@SolidBrianH 4 года назад
Hair color does not suit you Leo
@AvatarKid4
@AvatarKid4 4 года назад
Haha zeldas can’t do anything but three moves 😂
@69Bloodstreaks
@69Bloodstreaks 4 года назад
Regardless of how I feel, this was a great set
@69Bloodstreaks
@69Bloodstreaks 4 года назад
Before I watch the video just gonna say that if Leo wins I'm gonna leave a dislike. Nothing against Leo, he's a cool guy, just tired of seeing him win
@rumble7957
@rumble7957 4 года назад
Both characters that have stands going at it
@certifiedweeb3767
@certifiedweeb3767 4 года назад
Lmfao
@jbry4889
@jbry4889 4 года назад
Is this a jojo reference I see
@goner1179
@goner1179 4 года назад
But only those that have stands can see stands... :0
@ericdragoification
@ericdragoification 4 года назад
Classic Jotaro Vs Dio Match
@ryzeclan5383
@ryzeclan5383 4 года назад
Goner117 Of course Funky Kong has a stand.
@dvaccaro96
@dvaccaro96 4 года назад
13:07 - Holy shit I actually had to play a set
@chesslo2158
@chesslo2158 4 года назад
The very few times Zelda is actively cheered on rather than dreaded
@blahblahblargh2956
@blahblahblargh2956 4 года назад
cause he didn't spam neutral b and up b brainlessly like all the other zeldas online
@mattyg54
@mattyg54 4 года назад
I think it's more because this guy was the underdog. The crowd will almost always cheer on the opponent of the top players in pools
@AngelsandWolves1
@AngelsandWolves1 4 года назад
Not to mention that Ven's Zelda is sick.
@jungyulee4955
@jungyulee4955 4 года назад
@@blahblahblargh2956 that's definitely me, i wish i had higher iq. 80~90 iq gang where yall at.
@user-ds3bh4jt6r
@user-ds3bh4jt6r 4 года назад
Maschine lol i bet someone in germany called him that. Thats godlike.
@diafied7974
@diafied7974 4 года назад
Austria*
@ittoryussbu
@ittoryussbu 4 года назад
I think my teammates told him that hahahaha
@n10tan1gam1
@n10tan1gam1 4 года назад
Quik did
@pbz7572
@pbz7572 4 года назад
Joker’s Bizarre adventure: Phantom Crusaders
@AlejandroSantiago-kn6dg
@AlejandroSantiago-kn6dg 4 года назад
.............I would actually watch this..
@nikc101
@nikc101 4 года назад
Menacing-
@fioree2532
@fioree2532 4 года назад
13:08 the face MKLeo made looked like in his mind he said ...mmm worthy opponent. 😂
@bardw.1542
@bardw.1542 4 года назад
Yo--Leo is the greatest.
@SexyLegs9773
@SexyLegs9773 4 года назад
Ven did play super good against him
@MrAsyo1
@MrAsyo1 4 года назад
More like a "Lmao I almost let myself get beaten by a random" face
@CA-rg2wv
@CA-rg2wv 4 года назад
Alex Ramírez Hernández Vens not a random, you are lol
@clay2889
@clay2889 3 года назад
@@CA-rg2wv LMAO
@goner1179
@goner1179 4 года назад
Ven came to life that second Match , that was so sweet👌 well played.
@joseresendez9756
@joseresendez9756 4 года назад
You could see how nervous ven was the first game. Despite thathe made a huge turn around to take the 2nd game and put a good fight the 3rd game. Easily one of my favorite players
@FubukiSeba
@FubukiSeba 4 года назад
Holy shit that set was amazing. REally solid play of both players. And mad respect to Ven for almost defeating the strongest player in the world, who plays the strongest character in the game, with a fucking low tier. Fucking gg dude.
@h0m3st4r
@h0m3st4r 4 года назад
Anybody watching MkLeo: "Oh, ****. It's MkLeo." Anybody facing him: "OH, ****! IT'S MKLEO!!!"
@vxel
@vxel 4 года назад
This is the highest level Zelda set ever and I’m here for it
@roboman
@roboman 4 года назад
Someone eventually has to meet Leo at pools anyways
@Dimadome12
@Dimadome12 4 года назад
I know but it seems as though Leo is automatically sitting in Grands as a final boss. Or to challenge himself, he'll run thru losers bracket only to reset the bracket b/c he's his own final boss
@atlasgalor3583
@atlasgalor3583 4 года назад
Dimadome12 but he should never ever do that in top 8, players like samsora are literally even’d out in skill with him, samsora has literally beaten mkleo more than mkleo has beaten samsora in this pgr season, sometimes it backfires on him lol
@sayn4888
@sayn4888 4 года назад
chicken fingers yeah I agree Sam and even nairo could mess up Leo if tries the loser run
@Jack_lee75
@Jack_lee75 4 года назад
Dark Wiz marss and kameme as well no way Leo does it on purpose he’s the best yes but he’s not untouchable
@fullysemiautomatic5618
@fullysemiautomatic5618 4 года назад
@@atlasgalor3583 lol he 6-0'd him last time they played
@nully8370
@nully8370 4 года назад
it was so cool seeing Ven's friends (?) popping off after they won game two, made me happy to see that
@aabrarrahman4129
@aabrarrahman4129 4 года назад
Ven did a fantastic job considering this is arguably Zelda's worst matchup! Honestly, all Zelda needs is a consistent bread-and-butter and she'd be a solid mid tier or higher. Power to him for pushing Zelda to high level!
@ittoryussbu
@ittoryussbu 4 года назад
She would be easy high tier
@Gabi-nq7vz
@Gabi-nq7vz 4 года назад
If her nair was more like palu in terms of power and consistency, easy mid-high tier
@Surgemaster2012
@Surgemaster2012 4 года назад
All Zelda needs is a frame data buff. If all her moves her 5 frames faster she'd rise up considerably, safer options is always a welcome to any kit. Just giving Zelda any consistent or BnB safe option would be a godsend to her.
@Gabi-nq7vz
@Gabi-nq7vz 4 года назад
Context Code very true is so easy to whiff punish a zelda
@binarycat1237
@binarycat1237 4 года назад
@@Surgemaster2012 5 frames on every move is a huge buff that would move almost any character up a tier or two at least. I'm pretty sure that would let Zelda do fair > fair for a shield break.
@rinktheredlink9317
@rinktheredlink9317 4 года назад
How many of these people were fans of ven and how many just want to see leo lose? I feel kinda bad for Leo sometimes
@gassimgorashi3198
@gassimgorashi3198 4 года назад
Rink the red Link Yeah, it’s like what happened with ZeRo in his prime. More people want them to lose rather than the other player to win.
@EtoGmajor
@EtoGmajor 4 года назад
@@gassimgorashi3198 Just part of being the best. They are probably not hurting too much from it
@avalossalvador8613
@avalossalvador8613 4 года назад
A lot of people say MKLeo has nerves of steel but I feel like Leo's greatest weakness are the nerves he gets from people rooting against him. Especially when they're loud/right next to him. Look at Summit, he had an atmosphere where he could focus for once, and he proceeded to 6-0 Samsora.
@BadMoonLLC
@BadMoonLLC 4 года назад
Well tbf, ven has a lot of fans
@nickmarble7226
@nickmarble7226 4 года назад
Yeah it’s lame watching someone just to lose sad
@Surgemaster2012
@Surgemaster2012 4 года назад
Man both characters I main going at it, hard to decide who to root for. lol I think Ven did a great job though, given how terrible this MU is for Zelda. On top of that its MKLeo. I like watching both characters.
@trewilliams3044
@trewilliams3044 4 года назад
lol It's funny, because before Kongo started, MKLeo said on stream that he might have trouble with Zelda and found playing against he annoying.
@DREAMSQU33ZE
@DREAMSQU33ZE 4 года назад
Ven played beautifully 😭❤️ Vegas is proud cheering like the crowds from Smash 64
@Rebel4ebel
@Rebel4ebel 4 года назад
Hey Hey Upload a goddamn video please
@sentientmeat96
@sentientmeat96 4 года назад
Ven really made a respectable display, here!
@chaosbass
@chaosbass 4 года назад
I love that TK said MKleo had a "pretty decent lead" when he was only .3% behind.
@mindlessambient1791
@mindlessambient1791 3 года назад
The funny thing is that combo at 1:50 only did like 10 damage.
@お前に感謝-g2y
@お前に感謝-g2y 4 года назад
よく見たらレオの後ろにとのさんいて笑った。 世界最強候補の1人を相手にゼルダでここまで戦えるのほんとにすごい!
@Chris-xd6ok
@Chris-xd6ok 4 года назад
I feel so bad for Leo. No one is cheering him on 😢
@edwinzuniga1987
@edwinzuniga1987 4 года назад
Because he uses joker. He is a cool guy, they just don't like joker.
@wrenchninja4732
@wrenchninja4732 4 года назад
It's a combination of him using Joker and being the best in the world
@marianamartinez9070
@marianamartinez9070 4 года назад
well done ven, you almost won with a mid tier GG
@celticwind4122
@celticwind4122 4 года назад
This looks so annoying when the other character has grab combos, kill confirms, vastly more speed. Props to ven for fighting though.
@nevensass4343
@nevensass4343 4 года назад
If Ven won what would the reaction have been?
@octosquidy4759
@octosquidy4759 4 года назад
hype
@東山源次-y4g
@東山源次-y4g 4 года назад
LEOがボコすだけかと思ったらすごい接戦で震えたわ
@TonyStorm21
@TonyStorm21 4 года назад
Another proff that tiers dont mean jack, yeah Joker's extremely good on paper but we keep seeing people take character to levels that seemed impossible, Tea's Pacman, Raito's Duck Hunt, Maister's G&W and many other. Framedata is important yes, confirms, set-up and true combos as well, but players who don't give a damn about tiers and just try mastering their favorite character will always be around and Ven seems to be one of those. I bet MkLeo (nor anyone for that matter) isn't used to be so wary of a Zelda player but here we are. This also means Leo will work on that MU.
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 4 года назад
Does Zelda top events? Nope, because she is a bad character.
@TonyStorm21
@TonyStorm21 4 года назад
@@Juan-zs6jt pacman was considered a bad one, until he won a major, so did piranha plant. now even ESAM of all people made a video apologizing for how wrong he was about the character.
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 4 года назад
@@TonyStorm21 PacMan was only considered bad at the very beginning of the game. Tea made it clear PacMan was good after topping almost every event he attended. How many events has Zelda topped? 0.
@TonyStorm21
@TonyStorm21 4 года назад
@@Juan-zs6jt by fighting my point, you confirmed my point
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 4 года назад
@@TonyStorm21 Nah sir, you just spit all the anti tier nonsense that doesn't hold up. Tiers are real and Zelda is bad.
@fatyoahi8612
@fatyoahi8612 4 года назад
Let's goooooooooo
@worldsboss
@worldsboss 4 года назад
I don’t think I’ve ever seen TK’s hair so long. Dude has a good head of it going on!
@calebrobinson6406
@calebrobinson6406 4 года назад
I think Joker's dair air bullets are broken, without arsen they should not have knockback
@fatyoahi8612
@fatyoahi8612 4 года назад
I swear zelda is underrated
@josephBo
@josephBo 4 года назад
Not at all
@turbogeschwindigkeit6180
@turbogeschwindigkeit6180 4 года назад
She's rated exactly where she should be. Don't look at the results and look at the actual video bro. Every single time Ven makes bad read, Leo can punish him off of any position, but the reverse doesn't apply unless Ven makes a hard read.
@fioree2532
@fioree2532 4 года назад
doody fuad not at all it’s just a character flooded by B spam that makes anyone not like to see her
@Surgemaster2012
@Surgemaster2012 4 года назад
I agree she's underrated. Flawed, but underrated.
@ejstephens7918
@ejstephens7918 4 года назад
I think Zelda is a little underrated, but she's no more than a mid tier. She's really good in a few matchups but has a lot where she struggles. Joker isn't her worst, but it's definitely a losing matchup m
@TriforceZard
@TriforceZard 4 года назад
Leo is cool but seeing someone manage to take a game off of him is awesome.
@morgothainur9389
@morgothainur9389 4 года назад
I love gluttony expression when the guy next to him screams He is like: this Americans are loud xd
@Mekwek
@Mekwek 4 года назад
dw the French are loud too. coming from a french *AH LAHLAHLAHLAH GLUTTO WEATH ZE TRI STUCK*
@しいたけ占い-p1c
@しいたけ占い-p1c 4 года назад
便が勝ったのかと思ったわ。mkLeoから一本取るってのはそれほどまでに大きなことなんだな
@NightOwlAlucard
@NightOwlAlucard 4 года назад
MKLeo's Tag lol 😂 Germany changed him lmao
@royal_kim1154
@royal_kim1154 4 года назад
Phantom: This town isn't big enough for 2 supervillains! Arsene: Oh you're a villain alright, just not a super one!
@ditch_magnet
@ditch_magnet 4 года назад
is it just me or did that guy in the blue shirt pull something on that chick in the skirt & thigh-highs at 8:33 ?
@Veranek
@Veranek 4 года назад
$5.99 is OP. Jokes aside (in part), is good to see a Zelda giving a good fight.
@Frilleon
@Frilleon 4 года назад
Mkleo is soooo good. I’ll never get over that. He’s def in the top 5 of be overall Smash player ever. I have a ton of respect for how good he is
@TonyStorm21
@TonyStorm21 4 года назад
@david waddell i dont know, he is my favorite player but prime Zero was a beast. There's a few beasts in Melee history as well but it really comea down to Zero's undefeated streak.
@Frilleon
@Frilleon 4 года назад
Yea mew2king, zero, armada, hbox, leo, guys like that. Best smashers ever
@Imoman3113
@Imoman3113 4 года назад
Very nice showing from ven. Although I did cringe every single time he ledgehopped into air dodge into the ground. Just use regular get up! It's so much faster.
@makimonday1825
@makimonday1825 4 года назад
it’s a mixup. leo is reacting to the ledge jump animation.
@n10tan1gam1
@n10tan1gam1 4 года назад
Ven-sama.. s-sugoi! (////)
@PoopilussMcDoopiluss
@PoopilussMcDoopiluss Год назад
Why does Smash always have the most annoying commentators? lol
@hogin1421
@hogin1421 Год назад
8:24 girl patting Ven's head
@gregm8693
@gregm8693 4 года назад
Joker definitely has the match up against Zelda, but Ven did a really good job.
@Bixnoodle
@Bixnoodle Год назад
The ebonics commentary is so annoying
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 3 года назад
As someone new to SSB games and maining Zelda, a few things stand out here...: - So many recoveries from below ledge to ledge (I think this is a general top-level tactic rather than something specifically Zelda related, as edge guarding is just too good at this level to often go directly to stage). - I'd never considered UpAir through the stage (i.e. to hit an edge guarding opponent from directly below, prior to recovering to ledge). - Clearly, I don't use Phantom in neutral enough. - I would have assumed that top Zelda players are always just hitting the tiny sweet spot on her Fair and Bair, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I guess, even for top players (especially when playing against top players who can punish the sour spot hard), the risk-reward ratio is just not there. That said, I'd imagine top players like Ven would go for her super powerful Fairs and Bairs against weaker players, where their inferior movement makes them easier to sweet spot and a sour spot is less likely to be punished. - He habitually Dairs when above the opponent. It rarely hits (again, it's a tiny sweet spot), but the threat of it better than doing nothing.
@davidc.
@davidc. 4 года назад
The worst part about joker is the counter. Arsenal being so good and him getting it so easily against some characters is just dumb. Some people wanna nerf joker a bunch but that's just stupid. I just think his counter is to good.
@davidc.
@davidc. 4 года назад
Also MKleo is such a legend. My man is killing it.
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 4 года назад
I dont think he needs much of a nerd, isnt mkleo like th only top 10 joker main anyways?
@niku1840
@niku1840 4 года назад
@@christianr.5868 zackray
@jasonlobo2350
@jasonlobo2350 4 года назад
@@niku1840 zackray doesnt main joker
@niku1840
@niku1840 4 года назад
@@jasonlobo2350 yeah he co-mains him with rob and wolf. he went solo joker at last umebura though and won, i think you can say he's a joker main
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 4 года назад
I hate how lazy commentators are. They mostly focus on kill moves and tier lists. They were acting like Ven was going to the ledge because of MKLeo having such strong pressure. They said that Ven would only win if Leo didn't play well, assuming there is nothing Ven's character can do well. They can't just say something like "haven't seen too many Zeldas so I wonder if they have anything that can stop Leo" or "interesting how he keeps grabbing ledge - pretty risky decision".
@aldoperez23
@aldoperez23 4 года назад
Anyone gonna talk about that tether cancel into back air? Shit was big brain he did it so that he could be able to b-air
@fruityloops9369
@fruityloops9369 4 года назад
Ven was by far the better player. That was one of the worst matchups for Zelda. Very well done!
@fruityloops9369
@fruityloops9369 4 года назад
@The deepest puddle When it comes to equal skill, the determiner will be who plays the better character. Joker is, ironically, a joke... a joke that stands well upon 8/10s of the roster. Even you should understand this.
@theexaltedlt8222
@theexaltedlt8222 4 года назад
Ven was not the better player lol. Stay salty
@ctrlaltsimp3667
@ctrlaltsimp3667 4 года назад
Bro Ven is literally my favorite Smash player, but I'm still willing to say that there's still quite a bit of space between him and leo. Leo is better. He's number 1. I respect him, and he's earned that respect. He deserves it, even if imma die hard for ven
@swixhayes3877
@swixhayes3877 4 года назад
When I first got into trying to be competitive I saw Ven everywhere. Now to only see him again but against #1 so unlucky
@jessemunoz4793
@jessemunoz4793 4 года назад
I thought echofox dissolved last week or something
@trouble8690
@trouble8690 4 года назад
He lost cause he had wired headphones...
@pakoyquimera3718
@pakoyquimera3718 4 года назад
Leo at this moment it no longer seems as invisible as before.
@shakealhuggins4387
@shakealhuggins4387 4 года назад
I think the commentators did well
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