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2H Frost DK is back! | Cata Classic Arena PvP 

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Time to get the big weapon and make a return as 2H Frost DK in Cataclysm! In this expansion Frost sadly is still not a meta spec and even more vulnerable than before. At least it kept its high on demand burst right out of the gate! Thanks to the talent "Might of the Frozen Wastes" 2H Frost DK Spec can now compete with Dual Wield Frost DK Spec. Allthough, if i was to max Frost PvP and had all Weapons available i would probly still opt towards 1H Frost (Threat of Thassarian), but the gap between the 2 Specs definitely closed and both are playable and quite fun now, with their unique pros and cons.
I would just pick the strongest weapons available to me at the moment and ensure the highest amount of stats for Necrotic Strike absorb and Howling Blast AP scaling.
2H build used in this video:
www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-c...
keep in mind Frost has alot of flex points (for example Deathgrip CD vs Blade Barrier 3/3, Desecration Sub-Unholy Route vs Hand of Doom Sub-Blood Route, Obliterate Talent/Glyph vs. 0/3 Oblit Talent and Icy Touch Glyph are all viable paths and have their own advantages in certain situations, matchups and brackets.
I have been playing alot of Unholy and Frost Dk (my favorite spec) over the past years and am currently playing Classic alot.
If you have any questions about DK PvP in Classic feel free to ask me in the comments!

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@JosephValenti
@JosephValenti 5 дней назад
Hey man, mainly target calling in RBGs as Frost; but had a question on ability priority; when do I Obliterate / use Necrotic/ or use Frost Strike - what's the basic dps output for single target, duo target or 3+ target? and is it worth spending a GCD and waiting for runes to spread plagues to more people as frost?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 5 дней назад
For Single Target: Spam Necrotic on Unholy and Death Runes and Howling Blast on Frost Runes (if there is any enemy healing abilities, but thats the case most of the time), Frost Strike on KM Proc to burst or after Runes are spent. Diseases for Frost are way less important compared to WotLK, but before you start bursting, its also good to put them on target with Outbreak or Plague Strike. If some pala spam dispell them, just fk it tho, its not a high prio anymore and Frost Feaver will come automatically from HB. Obliterate is just more of an Execute Ability or to maybe make people panic and pop fast CDs, it can have a high burst (especially if glyphed/talented and with KM), but also comes at a high cost (2 Runes and consuming the KM proc). So if there is enemy healing involved you want to prio Necro, except for the said Execute (if you can make someone bubble/bop or kill him in next globals or got enough Necros stacked already). For duo target its hard to say, i would probly use most of the Death Runes on Howling Blast instead of Necros, but it could be worth to focus and take out one target still, so depends. For 3+ target, just spam Howling Blast, thats one of the main reasons why Frost DK is so good in RBG anyway. And i wouldnt worry about spreading Blood Plague too much (unless u somehow running the -10% meele dmg on Blood Plague talent from sub blood tree). When multiple targets are stacked you could spread both diseases for some extra dot dmg i guess, if you think the fight is going to last long enough to be worth. But honestly, you should be fine with just Howling Blast spam on aoe and Frost Feaver will get spread automatically with the Glyph.
@burtonkevin32
@burtonkevin32 17 дней назад
Great video great music great gameplay ❤
@markloveday7491
@markloveday7491 17 дней назад
Great video, looks a lot of fun. Would you please answer me what the addon is which tracks the enemy CDs. I'd very much like to sort a similar set up.
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 17 дней назад
Hey, ty. Its a custom Weakaura. The addon OmniBar can also do exactly the same thing, just takes some more tweaking to make it look like this.
@JasonBrown451
@JasonBrown451 14 дней назад
Just did some 2s with a ret pally you play with on his horde toon. Yall are nasty. Would love to pick your brain sometime dawg! Keep these vids coming
@nfs45xc
@nfs45xc 17 дней назад
Hey,nice video man!You use obliterate vs non-healer classes?Also,you have the talent that gives extra damage on obliterate?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 17 дней назад
Allmost every class/spec has healing now so still alot of necro but yes, i use obliterate with killing machine as an execute burst sometimes or through ams etc. Was running the talent here, cause with 2H spec had points to spare and just wanted maximum burst for fun. With 1H Frost would run way less points into it or none. I feel like its not mandatory due to the high value Necrotic Strike and Howling Blast already bringing in PvP, but in some situations it can come in handy.
@MsJuliosimon
@MsJuliosimon 17 дней назад
Love your videos man, spell pen still mandatory for dks in cata right?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 16 дней назад
ty bro, yes 195 Spellpen
@MegaBlackhawk1990
@MegaBlackhawk1990 7 дней назад
Been wanting to try frost in arenas just don't know what the stat priority is
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 7 дней назад
after 5% Hitcap and 195 Spellpen and around + - 3,2k Resil Strength > Mastery > Haste > Crit > other stats
@lailaqt9592
@lailaqt9592 17 дней назад
Me as a fdk main love to see this
@Azot333
@Azot333 17 дней назад
Epic. What do u rate it overall compared to unholy?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 17 дней назад
well its ok with a pala and in zug triple DPS, but unholy is still way more solid overall sadly, superior spec dk dps specs in pvp dying like flies now is hurting frost even more, cause its even less tanky and also the hungering cold nerf (meanwhile mages are better at everything and still got db ring insta cc xD) what remains still fun about frost is huge burst right out of the gate and its also seems to do a bit better into some of the meele cleaves (not all)
@fireraassassin3911
@fireraassassin3911 15 дней назад
I love your video ❤ Could you tell me what addon are you using that shows enemy cds like Bubble on the right side of character and debuffs on the left Could you share profile pls?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 15 дней назад
i use an omnibar cd and loss of control weakaura and on the right thats just a pretty standard gladdy profile, debuffs is just normal debuffs, i moved them a bit with leatrix plus not sure which addons you ment exactly but thats everything i use in total for enemy cds and debuffs
@fireraassassin3911
@fireraassassin3911 15 дней назад
At 4:26 you can see anti magic shield from enemy dk and bubble of enemy pala on the right side of character model. Every big cd that enemy use i noticed is displayed next to them and they also take priority it seems. Thanks for answering bro!
@fireraassassin3911
@fireraassassin3911 15 дней назад
But not the ones from gladius, the ones in middle of screen at that timestamp
@fireraassassin3911
@fireraassassin3911 15 дней назад
Next to nameplates 😂 im so dumb at explaining things sorry
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 14 дней назад
@@fireraassassin3911 ohh i see, thats also from the addon LoseControl and no worries man
@_Cursedrider_
@_Cursedrider_ 17 дней назад
Can you share with us talents? And what you thing about the weapons 2H or 2x 1H ?
@icetomeetyou3169
@icetomeetyou3169 17 дней назад
2h is just better, the main reason - runic power generation from auttoattacks
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 17 дней назад
www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/death-knight/0230002-32031222232112210031-1_001s8q11xv721s9f31s7z41s7t51xv361sxd71s8g81s9r This was the spec i was running, but keep in mind it was still more a "for fun" build; not sure about obliterate, i think its barely worth overall with 2H. It was funny to annihilate other dks through AMS with it tho xd There is def other viable routes for sure (one being desecration for example). If i was to tryhard and had all full bis weapons available, i would probly still go dual wield, 100% dmg loss on dodge/parry without an offhand can be really annoying at times. 1h vs 2h are definitely more close than in Wrath overall, cause of Might of Frozen Waste talent (probly best to go with whatever strongest weapon you got atm and then pick respective spec). Then again, if i rly want to tryhard id just use unholy spec xd So can also just pick what feels more fun to you personally, 1H or 2H (the on screen numbers feel more satisfying with 2H ofc, but be warned about the dodge/parry thing as i said)
@_Cursedrider_
@_Cursedrider_ 17 дней назад
@@Razoonx Thank you
@grotbagsz9261
@grotbagsz9261 12 дней назад
Whats your stat prio for 2h frost?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 12 дней назад
after 5% Hitcap and 195 Spellpen and around + - 3,2k Resil Strength > Mastery > Haste > Crit > other stats its same for 2H and 1H Frost, except that u only need 2% Hit for Cap with 1H talent
@snacko30
@snacko30 12 дней назад
Do you use plague strike? or is it not worth the rune
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 12 дней назад
ye i sometimes do, but its not a big deal tbh diseases dont increase frost dk dmg by 30 % + anymore like in wrath, even frost feaver is not that important anymore to keep up at all cost i use it when preparing dmg/burst before necro spam or on rogue through cloak to get the dot
@whodistho273
@whodistho273 13 дней назад
if you DW which runes do you run on your weapons
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 13 дней назад
razorice and fallen crusader
@whodistho273
@whodistho273 12 дней назад
@@Razoonx so probly fallen crusader offhand im guessing
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 12 дней назад
@@whodistho273 yep
@malikaruvan5209
@malikaruvan5209 5 дней назад
do u give coaching ?
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 5 дней назад
hm not on cata i just play
@malikaruvan5209
@malikaruvan5209 5 дней назад
@@Razoonx schade
@INSANE-GAMEPLAYS-777
@INSANE-GAMEPLAYS-777 7 дней назад
WOW! its hard!
@user-wo3tp9us6g
@user-wo3tp9us6g 17 дней назад
Cool. Tired from unh. Cata frost is more fun spec in my opinion
@Halliden88
@Halliden88 17 дней назад
Is he playing wow or diablo, zoomed so far out i can't tell 😅
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 17 дней назад
xd imo better OVERview like this ;)
@snacko30
@snacko30 12 дней назад
5:00. Playing double healer?? lol
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 12 дней назад
xD ye we gave it a try
@wyattwoods3706
@wyattwoods3706 5 дней назад
I mean try rune of cinderglacer its so much better
@Razoonx
@Razoonx 4 дня назад
hm, i don't like it, its PPM is rly bad, idk if that a bug in classic or supposed to be like that but it allmost never procs when needed the most and even then its only 2x stacks, looks better on paper than it actually is imo meanwhile fallen crusader allmost perma uptime with high proc chance and +15% str profiting every single ability and also necros, i think its better. Some small free selfhealing too, even tho thats not the main reason. For dual wield i would use razorice together with fc
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