2nd gen dodge surging issue "the permanent" fix!

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I drive a 2001 dodge 2500 cummins, when id drive the truck it would have a surging feel while going up hills, accelerating, and my transmission would drop out of gear at highway speeds with no throttle response. The issue has to do with the torque converter, not know when to lock and unlock. Its due to a signal interference by the alternator. Ive tried all the methods on youtube, and the forums. They didnt work. This fixed the issue completely for me

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@matthewleasure6605 Год назад

Just bought a 2001 Dodge 2500 with a rebuilt transmission last week and the previous owner sold it cheap because he said it already started slipping again. Well everything you stated is what it was doing and it fixed it! Thank you so much for a detailed walkthrough

@justinray5100 2 года назад

I just had my transmission rebuilt and it was doing fine then the surging started. I found this video and you my friend have saved myself and the transmission place a huge headache. Thank you!

@christophermccormick14 2 года назад

Hey anyone watching this, guy ain’t wrong it works… but you can ground it to the other battery instead of running more cable and all

@k.richter9946 Год назад

You have a video for this ? (12:00 pm PT)

@iflytango Год назад

exactly take the wire from the loom and connect to the ground on th other battery or find it on the other side and cut it splice on a short piece and connect to ground

@zacharygraham5190 8 месяцев назад

Can you please make a video of this?!

@adrianlowe20 6 месяцев назад

Can ground it to the back of the vp. Even beter

@GregSmith-oo6vs 2 года назад

your description of the issues are a mirror image of my trucks issues, thank you for the info... appreciate it

@ericlasley4503 8 месяцев назад

THANK YOU for the info ! I've been battling this for over a decade !

@user-ho5vz5tg3r 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for taking the time, I have a similar issue and I will look at this tomorrow.

@masterdaveedwards 11 месяцев назад

Wow…that is a very good video! Your authenticity is priceless. You should be a RU-vid guy. Thanks again, appreciate your efforts. Gotta give it a try if the surging persists.

@user-vx2in8uc7s 4 месяца назад

Some good information on this is the mopar man website and the guy said the truck worked fine from factory for however long so why should it need changing now. He reckons the real cause is the diodes in the alternator failing his advice was unplug the alternator and test drive it if the issue goes away then the diodes are faulty and doing the fix in the video is just masking the problem because the noise generated by bad diodes can damage other electronics on the truck

@projectramlife819 2 года назад

I'm about to perform this to my 99 cummins , also did foil first then installed bd diesel ac noise canceling. Worked for a while but as of today started surging real bad lock and unlock torque converter like crazy. So 🙏🏼🤞🏼 that by doing this will fix my problem. And thank you for your video was great info and showing the process. Will give an update soon as I'm done see if it worked for me as well .

@projectramlife819 2 года назад

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🤝🏼 Ok Upon completion right of that bat. I did almost everything exactly the same tomorrow GOD WILLING ill make a video and upload. I did disconnect the battery's witch will rest pcm and ecm. So did it work ? Yes it did I'm so happy . My truck sounds runs and shifts like a whole Different truck shifts way Better and of course no more surging lockup torque converter. And for any one reading this i just had my transsmisson rebuilt. I tried before the rebuild to fix issues by least expensive route first cleaned all grounds and battery and ran extra ground to pcm and foiled the wire. That did not work , then order the bd diesel noise canceling wire kit installed and did go away and seemed to work great! But like many others have stated it's just a bandaid. For the real under Lining issue is to check your alternator make sure all is good there , and finally bad design from dodge . To pull that wire away from alternator and splice and reroute. Took me about an hour of time and that's with going to store. cost me about 20 dollares for material. And all is great. Hope this information helps some one else as it did me. If anything changes I will update

@michaellyttle4347 Год назад

Tell me it’s still working please.. I’m getting ready to by pass the speed sensor with a Brady box or similar and really don’t want more expense..just found coolant lines were small split from rubbing and replaced them and solenoid and service only to have it start lock unlock again or at least it was now noticeable again since all the pressure issues were fixed and it shifts through gears at the right speed/rpms. Friggin annoying! Are you saying to move the plugged wire end to the other battery and connect to ground there? 1994 Cummins 4X4.

@gavynrussell411g8 2 года назад

Thank you so much this fixed my issue 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

@sigfussigurdsson1151 2 года назад

Thank you for taking the time to film it and explaining in detail to us on this issues, my truck just started doing this 2002 Dodge Ram 3500 5.9L Diesel. Before I had late shift at high rpm then I replaced governor solenoid pressure block and governor pressure sensor switch with a upgraded ATS parts from Thoroughbred Diesel performance. Replaced transmission filter torque the front and rear bands to spec and it was running very nice firm shifts. and now it’s doing this intermittent shift down up at a steady speed 45-50 mph. my wire is stock still so I will move it like you did and see what happens. Thanks Again -Sig

@K47MILES Год назад

Did it fix the issue your were having?

@Freedom17762 Год назад

2001 dodge 5.9 HO NV5600. I had surging and dead pedal symptoms really bad and after lots of money and headache I finally found it was this ground wire that wasn’t fully plugged in on the passenger side. I don’t know what that ground feeds but it is very important. Hell all the grounds are important for that matter.

@domcummins4148 Год назад

Thanks for the information. Great video!!👍

@propellerrondussault473 2 года назад

Thanks for the info bud iv been tryin to figure this out for years

@jameshockett7247 2 года назад

I’m having the same issue!!!, thanks for the video!

@markthompson7793 11 месяцев назад

Dude good video i was stressing just had my tranny built and this was happening im going to try this. I love my 2nd gen put so mich money into it and this problem almost had me wanting to sell

@thomasmanion2903 Год назад

Keeping ground away from positive wires is key so running it over core support with pos cables not so good. Ground wires should be as short as possible, there are good ground points on each side of the engine ie timing cover or block

@ziondiaz4910 10 месяцев назад

What I did man and it worked really well no problems for 4 years plus is what is called an ats sponge for 47re transmission. No more surging at all

@zacharygraham5190 8 месяцев назад

More info on this??!?

@travisconner1581 Год назад

I did the foil and electrical tape trick. Worked great.

@kimberlywil4954 2 года назад

Thanks - will check mine not a cummins just a simple 00v6 but its surging. Gave code P0420 replaced both O2's and tested not driving it and sitting still rev'ing it w/foot on break as I applied gas it would surge, kick forward. Conclusion - I did not fix it. But something else to consider

@sts.556 2 года назад

that and make sure your battery terminals are clean and tight also rum a extra ground from battery to engine , fixed

@jefffrench1087 2 года назад

Awesome saved my second gen

@chitsanal-mj8ov Год назад

Hey thank you I just move that wired and it work

@Shanegla 3 года назад

Good job👍

@227lazer 8 месяцев назад

Im doing this. My 99 does the same thing thanks a million

@greglopez7345 11 месяцев назад

You explain it well

@andrebroker9816 10 месяцев назад

your a beast thank you brotha

@p0weraid Год назад

You can also just cut the wire and leave it and run new wire around the way you did

@chilidog73 2 года назад

My wire runs over the black bracket above the alternator. Wonder if I could just mount a thick steel plate between the wire and the alternator.

@andred8914 Год назад

I have this issue with my 5.9 magnum and honestly don't know what the hell else to do after replacing the torque converter, trans fluid temp sensor, and governor.

@TheFearlessheart60 2 года назад

howdy,,,, well, searching utube and found your vid,,,, have a 2012 ram 3500 dually , 6.7 cummins with a tuner,,, even with cruise control on this thing started this vibration for a second ,,, and just keeps doing this,, shop has checked the tune and its ok,,, they say its the tourqe converter sensor,,,, i changed the belt and tensioner (witch i believe this is when it starter, or got alot worse ) my question is where do both ends of this wire under or on top of the alt. land ? thanks for the vid

@user-in5wc9bg5p 5 месяцев назад

Hi there thanks for this RU-vid video i have a stick shift truck that is doing the same thing

@MichaelPonton 4 месяца назад

Thank you man ppl like you help ppl like me Lmoa 😂

@markdonley2397 Год назад

Hooking the ground to the battery next to the TPS sounds like a much easier suggestion. Why don’t any of the other videos mention this? I’m planning to try this in the spring when I get my truck out of storage. My truck has had this problem for twenty years. I’ve installed the noise isolator from Geno’s Garage and it worked for three years then the problem came back so I thought it burned out? I bought the next one from BD diesel and it didn’t fix it so now I’m searching for other things to try. It’s been the biggest frustration with the truck. 94’ 2500 Two wheel Drive.

@jefferygreen2846 Год назад

Mine is my daily. Imma fix it this weekend. If i dont find anything saying NOT to. Imma try to ground it to that battery but I will let you know if i hear reason not to or if it works 👍🏻👍🏻

@dieselcornelio8819 Год назад

My truck have the same problem after 60 miles an hour like if they overdrive goes in and out

@Bluediesal1978 Год назад

I got the same truck when I first start it. The engine and lights surges for a few minutes then quits. Butt my transmission acts out sometimes when I come to a stop it goes outta gear then pops back in. I've re built my transmission with new parts I've cleaned all terminals. Put new batteries in. New terminals. Still does it

@jesusvargas4022 Год назад

El problema se encuentra en el lado izquierdo de la polvera las conexiones de tierra al costado de la batería ay conectar un cable adicional de la batería de menos- al las conexiones de tierra mismo cable ala carcasa de la computadora lado del copiloto, cada vez que pasaba por un tope se apagaba los istrumentos del tablero lo bueno que siguia rundando, ram cummins se suluciono el problema.

@nonagreeable Год назад

Did you consider just running it to the driver side battery instead of over the engine? Would that work the same?

@Morgan-pz3ni 5 месяцев назад

Is there a way to test the alternator's bad feedback? Like any way to confirm its that before i start trying to splice wires I can't find it now but i swear i saw comments/videos about testing alternator's ac or dc output with a multimetere while its running

@Resistculturaldecline 11 месяцев назад

My truck is a 6spd and has the slight, but noticeable surge. Is this video tip relevant to a manual ?

@LVPIERCED Год назад

Had anyone having this issue tried grounding it to the driver side battery??

@iflytango 8 месяцев назад

I did all that and cleaned all grounds worked for a month.and the bd diesel noise eliminator is crap

@judasromo9407 Год назад

Manuels do have the same problem with that wire that a wt mod the grounding of this truck is terrible

@judasromo9407 Год назад

That mod you did is direct to ground instead eventual ground the vt, pcm and ecm are that ground

@chrisfox293 Год назад

If you haven’t learned about the manuals for theses trucks yet nv4500 . 5 speed and nv5600 . 6 speed the 6 speed is the stronger out of the two

@Nonsensenoalph 17 дней назад

Why couldn't you just disconnect it from the alternator get it away from the alternator and wrap it up in the loom . Then run the aluminum foil wrapped wire directly to the alternator instead of making a big loop All the way across to the other side and back?

@pro_cocoyt7878 11 месяцев назад

It’s crazy that out of the 20k plus views the only people that liked the video were me and some random person 😂😂

@geronimolara12 Год назад

i ad the same problem bebore and my 2 trucks i only cancel that conector and fix my 2 trucks

@RamBrunet 8 месяцев назад

Man, I’ve installed the bd noise isolator. I’ve cleaned grounds. I’ve deleted that wire and regrounded the 4 wires to the driver battery. Replaced the tps sensor And mines still doing it. It’s driving me absolutely crazy.

@RamBrunet 8 месяцев назад

Only thing left to do is get the trans done for me

@bmxt9x 6 дней назад

Have you tried / found anything else that has worked?

@RamBrunet 5 дней назад

@@bmxt9x nope. I ended up selling it with a geno’s tpms and the guy never told me of it worked or not. I understand the stresss of hunting that problem. My guess was the ecm or the vp.

@calebclark7959 Год назад

Dude high how are you. JESUS. This guy knows how to keep a mf on the edge of his seat

@adamamber0513 Год назад

That alternator wire don’t look too good

@classy.redneck 10 месяцев назад

Mine was fuel pump going out which then toasted the vp44

@justintothetruth 8 месяцев назад

actully your the rando

@tassajaranichols3905 Год назад

I did exactly what you said.....and NOW MY TRUCK WONT START🤬

@justintothetruth 8 месяцев назад

id say you fucked it up

@chilidog73 2 года назад

Ps... is it still working for ya?

@hudsonoakes5225 2 года назад

Yes it is still working fine.

@hockeyman0228 2 года назад

Having surging issues and mines a 6 speed manual. Could this still be the cause?

@D-train69 2 года назад

@@hockeyman0228 r u serious??? WTF

@D-train69 2 года назад

What a piss poor design dy Dodge. You'd think all the designers would catch this but NOT in this case.

@saylorsong Год назад

@@hudsonoakes5225 I appreciate the video! Looking forward to fixing that aggravating situation!

@propellerrondussault473 2 года назад

Did not fix it

@michaellyttle4347 Год назад

Sometimes it actually is the speed sensor.. bypass it with a Brady box or other similar

@kevonslims7269 Год назад

@@michaellyttle4347 can you please explain the speed sensor?

@michaellyttle4347 Год назад

@@kevonslims7269 i meant to say tps throttle position sensor. I was told by transmission expert that bypassing it fixes torque converter lock/unlock

@kevonslims7269 Год назад

@@michaellyttle4347 Okay cool, my 02 Dodge Ram 1500 torque converter was locking and unlocking at hi speed and the engine was surging , problem was the connector for my idle air control had a loose wire which got pushed out the back of the connector when I pulled the IAC out to clean it, new wire connector and no more lock/ unlocking..

@michaellyttle4347 Год назад

@@kevonslims7269 if you can and have time can you post a picture of what you are describing? Thanks