"You will not get comboed for 30 seconds straight" Are you shitting me? Have you seen high level footage of this game? You will absolutely get looped to death.
League players physically cannot admit that they fucked up, and fighting game players probably won't be switching to project L over their game of choice, so I doubt it's going to succeed.
Move execution is maybe the single greatest barrier of entry fighting games have. What I’ve noticed over the years, from Street Fighter 2 forward, is the more complicated they appear to have gotten the more they lose people. It’s probably not a coincidence that the most successful fighting game series of the last 24 years is the one that eliminated move inputs all together. And Smash Bros. has done that while being on low selling systems; when Switch finally landed Nintendo back on top it pushed Smash Bros. from just beating the competition to being one of the best selling games of all time. Likewise, Capcom’s most successful bunch of fighting games in the arcade (after Street Fighter 2) was their Marvel stuff where Hyper moves could be done by simply pressing two buttons. Even on the 3D side of things, when arcades were big, the three button Virtua Fighter was one of the biggest things around...at least up to VF3. The second biggest barrier of entry is cost. Smash Bros. shows a fighting game can still pull in big numbers at retail. But I think if fighting games were free-to-play, and stuff was priced more smartly, fighting games could rack in what they did in the early ‘90s.
@@purplebunz It’s a free game, so they’ll definitely get a lot of people trying it on release. And if it plays good, they’ll probably keep a good deal of them. They don’t even really need a switch anyways. That free-to-play MultiVersus game had over 20 million users in less than a month of the beta going. Street Fighter 5 sold 7.40 across every version and seven years. It took Tekken 7 five years to move 10 million units. 2XKO will likely outperform Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and Street Fighter fairly quickly.
One of the only things that Riot does well is make its games extremely easy, and since it's free it's sure to have plenty of players. They said the same thing about Valorant and there it is XD
Props to Riot for the inclusivity and representation of the mentally disabled. Down-Forward-Punch for a single input is obviously too difficult of a task for your average League player.
That's not the problem, the problem is actually making the special attacks. Your fucking fingers hurt after a while because they're so annoying and hard to do. I'm much rather how Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 works or even Tenkaichi 3, those are so good and fun fighting games. You want to do something? There, you have it and you can even do awesome and complex combos as well.
@@nox_cadit after time you can legit do those moves really well without your fingers hurting, I play Reina from Tekken and I wave dash and kbd so well now my fingers don’t hurt on both sides, it s a matter of practice(and yes I play on keyboard bcs it s fun)
@@Generalsiris I really have trouble with games that use a lot the buttons in a fast paced timing, like MegaMan, Castlevania and fighting games. My fingers hurt so badly and they get calluses hehehe
@@nox_cadit after a long session, it hurt me as well, which is why i built a habit of putting as little effort into pressing buttons. To explain clearly I am more precise with it and calm and short in timing, although the way I exercised this was in intense finger buttons mashing, and I loved the pain for some reason.
Honestly one of the biggest things Project L has working against it is people making content like this Everytime i hear "Dude Project L is gonna kill every other fighting game" i hear people counting chickens
I swear every league player is like ”Project L is gonna change the figthing game community for ever ” when they barely play figthing games , is kinda annoying coz Theres a bunch of videos like this , they play league of legends and start making videos of how project L is gonna be the biggest figthing game ever…
Project L is only going to be relevant because its made by RIOT, Street Fighter already """"perfected""" the 2d fighting genre, Tag FG are not news, and it wont have the hype and movement of Tekken neither will it be a Guilty Gear type of game.
Yes there are easy inputs, but that's just because the complexity is in the tag system. Arguably a tag fighter is much harder to get into, but I see why they needed to go into that direction.
When people say this I'm always gonna point to granblue. Granblue has easy inputs, but it doesn't dumb down the gameplay. Project L dumbs down both the inputs and the gameplay, making it look like the most boring fighting game ever created. If this game inspires league players to play actually good games like street fighter, guilty gear, and granblue I'm all for it. But I'm not going to stop playing better games to give Project L a try.
@@purplebunz bad take, riot game made their brand into breaking "barriers-of-entry/dumbing down mechanics" and this is a SUCCESSFUL strategy, making something "dumb down" is not a downside. Lol is a easy-to-figure-out and watered down version of DotA (no courier, no creep denial, more structure game flow with set roles) Valorant is the same with CS (randomized recoil pattern making less about learning spray and more about gun fight technique, easier economy managment) 2XKO is going to be the same so "dumbing down" mechanic, PROVEN BY LOL AND VALORANT, is a great strategy to reduce barrier of entry and attract new players making the games MORE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL
someday people will stop making the mistake of thinking that simple controls will cause some huge boost in fighting game playerbases. all simple controls do is lower the skill floor for everyone. beginners will still get absolutely shit on by people with any experience in fighting games. most of these beginners will cry like scrubs and drop the game. a very slim proportion will stick around and learn. besides, this is a tag fighter. a niche within a niche. this ain't gonna be the massive release you think it is.
Yes!! You’re so fucking right. Look at how fast the public dropped Granblue. Granblue is also a free to play fighting game with simple inputs, and now nobody outside of hardcore fighting game players care about it.
@@Seama327im gonna be honest, the casual gamer audience didnt even know granblue existed so the simple inputs dont matter in the first place. even a lot of the casual fighting game players (the type of people that just buy mortal kombat because its gorey and has fun DLC) dont have any idea about granblues existence. but if youre a LoL or Val player and those guys released a fighting game with characters you already like, and then you try it and the controls feel easy to use which gives you more room to focus on the gameplay itself, you’ll probably play it more. this focus on making a genre’s controls easy to use for new players is a large part of LoL’s and Val’s success
sf6 is literally the most played fighter on the market with the exception of smash right now and possibly the most played traditional fighting game of all time and you're legitimately delusional if you think the modern control scheme has nothing to do with it lol
GGST is the only fighting game I have ever played and I love it. I'm also a league player, so if this plays anything like guilty, then I will enjoy it. I do hope that they still make quarter circles an option though, as they feel much better and fluid than side + x input.
My first fighting game was Guilty Gear Strive as well, but I've had a lot of fun with Street Fighter 6, Mortal Kombat 1, Skullgirls, Melty Blood: Type Lumina, Granblue, Blazblue, and others since then. Its a really fun genre, and I totally reccomend getting more into it. i do agree that a Classic vs Modern input style would probably benefit the game though.
project L looking good! greatest fighting game? hell nah ^^ there is too much to overcome i feel like riot will deliver well but the game wont ever surpass smth like tekken 8 sf6 or even the delightful MK1
I learned from the last time I thought Riot was going to revolutionize a game. So I will keep hesitant excitement until I play it myself. Valorant started off pretty well and then well, things changed. So I will not buy into the hype and I will not praise anything until I can personally confirm that there is something to praise.
I've seen this take flying around but imo it is not the easy controls themselves. There have been plenty of games that have gone down this route already, granblue (somewhat) with rising, smash bros (not rly a fighting game as far as the majority of the fgc is concerned but alot of the mainstream gamers think it is so I'll chuck it in) fantasy fighter or whatever that game was called and etc... I do agree with 2xko bringing in alot of the mainstream audience however. But is not because of anything else but just because it is from riot. Is already been proven with valorant that riot games can seemingly just bring players to a completely new genre and people are OK with it. Valo personal hatred aside did in fact inspire a revival of the Cs style slower paced tactical team shooter. I would not be surprised if 2xko reaches similar levels of success as well. But it wouldn't be because of easy controls. Tekken is still the most popular franchise amongst the more casual fan base in recent times with street fighter being a very close 2ND. Neither games are what you would call very casual friendly with inputs and what not. But that's not really the point, people just want to look for an excuse to not play the game and the control scheme is the most obvious thing to poke at.
This, simple imputs don't change anything, mechanical skill isn't the hard part of fighting games, the actual fighting is, framedata, os, matchups, neutral etc etc is what's actually hard to learn not combos or imputs
@@_VinSilmao for real. Like there's some execution stuff that's hard, but you generally don't NEED it to win against most people. The hard parts are the parts that are actually rewarding
i still dont understand why they had to make it look like off brand guilty gear, they had a different art style in the beginning and it looked better imo
Execution will always be a crucial part in fighting games. My main concern is the game the game getting figured out too quickly. You can already feel this with S1 SF6 which only took a week or so. Even games like DBFZ which took a month. And seeing 2XKO where people we are speculating that are already pulling off the "crazy combos" is going to get old real fast. Even Melee's mechanical depth comes from the movement which also ties into the combos. I think taking those away speed up the process where things will get figured out making a more uninteresting game. I.e. early street fighter V, how did they fix that? By adding more mechanics to the game. Granblue Fantasy started this way with 1 button inputs and that died quickly until the rerelease which overhauled the system. Just look at DNF Duel for a point of reference.
i think melee is actually a great example of balance in inputs, and smash is a great example of an easy entry barrier overall. everything about smash itself is super simple and easy to get into, all of your attacks are one button presses, sometimes while pressing a horizontal or vertical direction. movement is just running and jumping. the barrier of entry is fantastic, because its supposed to be a party game with easy to use mechanics. but there is a lot of unintended movement tech (in melee especially) that is required to have specific inputs. you dont need these if you’re just playing for fun with some friends, but if you want to play competitively you will start learning the inputs. the inputs don’t give you new moves or better ones, and if you’re playing casually as a beginner with some friends chances are you’re not gonna need the specific input tech. its just if you ever decide to compete and play seriously
I honestly don't understand the hype over this game. The only interesting thing to me is that it's f2p, the rest of the game just looks like a simplified tag fighter so I doubt it's going to change anything at all. IMO it would have been another DNF duels, if it wasn't for the IP; it's prob going to be the biggest reason the game is going to be alive for long.
The single button inputs definitely reminds of the fighting game my friends play called DNF Duel. I have tried multiple times to get them into Guilty Gear but they just don't like having to learn the inputs to pull of special moves in the slightest, especially when they are playing against someone that has already put the time in to learn them. But when all that needs to be done is press a button, they are able to quickly feel like they are making progress in learning the systems that the game presents which allows them to have more fun, earlier on in the process. I have a feeling that this game will cause similar feelings to those new to the genre, and will act like a great introduction to what fighting games have to offer.
I'm not sure project L is going to go THAT well in the future. Alot of It's ideas are promising, like being free to play and having borderline infinite riot money for development but I honestly doubt they can really do anything to make the most difficult part of learning a fighting game, getting washed and learning from It, any easier without inclusion of some kind of two player vs two player so mode so that when everything goes down the drain you could atleast blame your teammate to save your ego, and that wouldn't be that good as It would quickly turn the playerbase into a toxic cesspool
No it won't change anything , it's just UNder night in birth or a better Melty Blood in terms of gfx , don't overhype and delude yourself ngl when Zed rops he's gon get fancy
When Marvel vs Capcom 3 was announced, and they were first talking about the new “Special button,” for a moment I thought they were trying what this game is doing. Those Smash controls, what Capcom is just kind of getting around to with Modern Controls in SF6, (although they tried a terrible version of it with Capcom vs SNK 2 EO and it’s Easy Operation system) I was thinking they were doing that with MvC3 back in 2011. Makes sense to do that in a Marvel game, Marvel did always have simpler controls than their Street Fighter games, and it is a fan service game meant to reach an audience that might never play fighting games or maybe haven’t played a Capcom fighting game since Street Fighter 2. BlazBlue was pretty new around then too, and they had that Drive Attack button, so I thought maybe Capcom was kind of jumping off that. But despite its name, it just basically ended up being the Guilty Gear XX Dust button with a tag option once you were in the air. Seemed like a big missed opportunity. Those controls combined with being free-to-play I think will money printing machine. Post League of Legends showing how big the free-to-play model can make something, like sometime in 2010, fighting games should’ve been going free-to-play. I can kind of get not jumping on it immediately, but once you’re getting to Street Fighter 5, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite (which sounds like the name of a F2P MvC) and Tekken 7 it’s just weird they aren’t F2P; especially since their monetization model is build around trying to sell people costumes. I mean you’re probably going to make more money selling cheaper costumes to a percentage of 20 or 30 million people than trying to sell overpriced costumes to somewhere around 2 or 3 million the first year. My guess is 2XKO is a big hit, and Capcom, NAMCO, and SNK are left scrabbling to fight for a F2P fighting game market that could’ve theirs at any point in the last 12 years.
"Smack around every modern fighting game and change the genre forever" i cant really take this statement serious, considering that there doesnt exist a single tag based fighting game that has even been close to competing with Tekken or Street fighter. Riot already made a huge mistake making the game tag based. And i dont believe modern control schemes will become the norm either. Modern controls in street fighter are dying, and people are getting scolded for using them online. Same with tekken. And i also believe that a big part of mortal kombat 1's downfall is due to its simplicity and lack of depth
Why dont people simply RTS? Because the moment you simplify it the depth and strategy. Dont get me wrong the more diverse and different fighting games the better. I just never hear this take for other genres like TCG FPS MOBA.
I get what you are saying... but Smash exists ma dude. If you are mixing simplicity with unlimited budget... can't get much more of both than with smash bros and nintendo. And I am telling you right now, simple inputs =/= easier game. Go ahead and enter a smash tourney and tell me how that goes for ya
The only thing 2xko will change forever is the cope that motion inputs are what's keeping people that complain about inputs from playing fighting games. They're not, they never were. Fighting games with no motion inputs already exist and they ain't playing em. And I ain't talking about rising thunder or divekick. I'm talking bout smash bros. Ultimate ain't exactly lighting up the charts with player count.
There is a pretty loud annoying low frequency hum noise at all times during this video. You might not hear it on a smartphone speaker but with good headphones it drives you crazy.
Motion inputs have their place. If people don’t want to learn that, it’s on them. The real reason casual players are going to drop this game is because they are going to get their shit pushed in by some crazy mixup with an assist and not understanding what they are looking at. When they aren’t going to understand why hitting any buttons don’t work, they are done, motion inputs or not.
I couldnt care less about games getting rid of execution. Im still beating new player 100 times out of 100 because it isnt about execution at that level.
Project L isn't changing shit, mb bro but Im not sugarcoating this game... We talkin about RIOT, they're genius on marketing but not at making games, they convinced even ur grandma to play lol because there's a champion that even a child can use ( aka Yumii fully purpose to be created). They just do shit and call everyone to check out cuz there's a "spot" for you too and yet... The downfall of quality will come as they need to make a game for dummies and pro players, basing balancing on the opnion of a damn streamer... Project L might work but that doesn't mean its good or "changing" anything, thats just makin the whole complexity of a game braindead because someone is too stupid to learn, that's why I respect tekken for what it is comparing that to Sf6 who decided to give toys for kids.
What interests me most is that they put dedicated servers, it can't be that it's 2024 and the P2P garbage is still being used, I remember when For Honor came out, let's say it was a fg that was played a lot for a while because of how different it is. what it was and many people said that its servers were garbage because they were P2P, the same goes for any other game of the genre
While there’s no avoiding it, I dread the arrival of the F2P era, specifically in the hands of veteran developers. Tekken is doing okay with cosmetics at the moment, but Capcom and NRS have made clearly consumer unfriendly decisions while charging full price for their games. If the landscape for F2P live service games now is any indication, a ton of games will fall off in they can’t captivate a large enough audience. I don’t think current devs are equipped for that.
I'm not a hater of simple inputs by any means, but some of us have been playing fighting games our entire lives and feel that all of the hard work we've put in over the years perfecting our craft is slowly but surely getting thrown down the drain. The amount if joy that i got from finally learning how to DP consistently will never be replicated 😂. I love what Granblue and Now SF6 did by giving us both options and feel that more developers should do because just like how theres a group of people that wont play a fighting game because of "difficult" it is the same can be said for those that may find them "too easy" some people enjoy the challenge of picking up and learning a new game . These guys have all the money and resources to make it happen so why not just do it? Thats just how i feel personally
They said the same thing about Valorant regarding CSGO, which is a much more difficult and frustrating game than most FG, and several players switched to the first one and it is still popular
@damianateiro if we are going to compare games, 2xko seems comprable to other team games in terms of mixup potential, combos wont be as long naturally due to it having a combo breaker mechanic but I do feel the game can stand on its own with simple inputs without dilluting what people love about fighting games.
The reasoning tracks. This game is going to be huge for sure. Btw when you mentioned Melty Blood you showed gameplay of Under Night instead. Same developer, different franchise.
I want it to do well for the genres sake because money will bring more attention from the masses. But, im always reminded of Haze (The Halo Killer) when it comes to this game or that game will kill household name game. Lesson to be learned: You usually dont get 1up'd if you're the first to do it. Just look at how Capcom survived...eating off the 90s😂
Ah yes riot games, a company that kills all the games balance in following patches, do wonder how this will go (same, literally same way, they never learn)
There are tons of simple control fighting games that no one cares about. It'll do well, probably better than well, but it's hardly going to push fighting games into the mainstream.
Yeah because the reason Virtua Fighter is doing worse than Tekken is the fact that VF has harder inputs. Maybe it's better to switch to the MOBA genre where there is more variety of alive games than Fighting Games.
League of legends players will suck anything that says league of legends , how can people who are not figthing games die hard say whats the best figthing game ? Also as they are getting into figthing games they say x2ko will change the fgc for ever , the lvl of sucking for league of legends is just wild , all lol players say the same yet they barely play figthing games , is just funny
What the FGC needs is that people stop being scared of playing a game, because gamers now are so braindead they will research for ours before playing a game, sometimes even a free game. But a free to play will just be a mid FG with a thousand expensive skins
No it's not 😂. F2P is a cancer, every free to play game goes in the shitter in some way shape or form. The last thing I want is Tekken 9 with a 100 tier battle pass, an event pass, and a shop with 30 dollar cosmetics
This needs extremely good anti-cheat though... Making computer assisted inputs in fighting games is not that hard and previously the biggest threat of using them is that when you get exposed you might get banned and lose 50$+ but that is not true for a F2P.
Casuals will defend modern controls cuz they too lazy to get gud lol its not hard using classic controls, u just succ... if a combo is easy to do then it's not impressive, being gud at fighting games used to be impressive but now a five year old can do the same shit u can without knowing wtf they even doing smh
Honestly I dont think that simplicity necessarily works for everything, not saying its bad but like, me personally I fucking love special inputs like ABA’s rekka in +r is the shit for me (even though Im dogass at it lmao). Not even because its hard to do just because it feels really good to mash out dps and quarter circles, so while I do think that not using motion inputs is something that can be done well I dont think that it should be the standard, I personally think that it really depends on the game and what the developer wants to go for
Sorry gotta have to say a few things here: 1. Namco and capcom are both also having more than enough money so if money is the breaking point why it didnt already happen then? 2. Honestly the fighting game those 2 worked on looks kinda oof. Now i don't see the connection of them making a good game all of a sudden because they got more money. 3. new players got e.g. the special mode in tekken for easier entry and i see people use it accordingly. Did u try TEKKEN 8? because the video footage was TEKKEN 7 for which i'd agree on that point. take it with a grain of salt just wondering, not meant to be offending or anything :D good video tho
You saying that this game is gonna be successful because of Money and Simple contolers? I hope they bring something more tham that, cause that is not enough to be a success, there are a lot of games with a good ammount of financial backing and they flopped. And if simple controllers would be the game changer... I don't think so, if that's the case then DNF Duel and Power Rangers Power of the Grid would've been really successful. The Legacy of LoL can carry the game too, but if the game doesn't do something innovating that carry is gonna go back to the games they came from.
i think a lot of the misconceptions of fighting games are coming to pass. "Fighting game too hard, ugh" is quickly becoming a dead topic. SFV, SF6, DBFZ, Tekken 7, Tekken 8, have been very complex games. Yet every game is bigger then the last. Better systems like training options and netcode are what fighters needed. SF6 and tekken 8 are so crazy complex. yet a lot of people are playing. I think being fun in paramount. Then is the online good? those boxes being checked means streams, youtubers and player sharing. Leading to more engagement. The free thing may affect other fighters only if 2xko(hate this garbage title) checks these same boxes. yet at the same time it may be too complex to hit the top since the 2v2. even with simple controls that is still asking one to learn 2 characters, the system mechanics and how to apply those two things together.
Nah fuck easy controls , nothing feels better in FGC than a triple wavu wavu into electric 🤣🤣 , imo the perfect controls are found in dbfz remove all the pretzel garbage input and stick with an easy quarter circle input , atleast this way I can feel that I did a special move not a command normal
@@tonisnooker Riot is 100% owned by tencent which is Chinas largest tech company which is effectively a wing of the Chinese Communist Party they are the same company that runs tech surveillance and social credit system.
For advanced techniques, they can still keep charge attacks! Example: chun-lis spinning bird kick or blankas horizontal ball attack! The amount of characters like velkoz, braum, Warwick, katarinas,etc. Would be amazing to see it pulled off! Dlc for this game is gonna be wicked! They have to split the regions accordingly so imagine a whole DARKIN, SHURIMAN EMPIRE, VOID VS ICATHIA,ETC. SO AMAZING! AND YOU BET THEY'RE GETTING SPECIAL SKINS ONLY FOR THIS GAME LIKE THE OTHERS!
mmmm, ehhhhh, 50/50 on these takes, this game will absolutely not be the biggest fighting game ever, idk where that comes from, it'll be a sizable game, but about as sizable as valorant, it attracts riot fans but the genre is infinitely nicher than mobas and fps games, so itll attract even less than today's numbers on valorant. fighting games are really not as hard as people make them out to be (anti-airing is not a difficult concept at all lmao), and even then, if theyre attracting the same people who play league and val, then it shouldnt be a problem, people who complain about motions are just complainers and nothing more, dbfz is actually proof, while i agree it is not imperative for a fighting game to have motions at this point with the whole new age/modern audience, it is disingenuous to say that motions restrict players because it doesn't, again, dbfz is proof, sf6 is proof, ggst is also proof, one of the pioneers of the "modern" fgc, again most people complain because they simply dont want to try or get better. also, when you mentioned melty, you showed footage of uni lol. but yea, this game does look fun, it's just not gonna be as big or deep as you think it is
it will never stop being amusing how fgcbros always go "it's not the controls that's the issue, it's everything else about these games that's driving prospective new players away!" and then you actually read the grievances by people who bounced off of this genre have had with it and 9 times out of 10 you'll read something about "the controls are godawful and unintuitive and it made playing the game a chore" like it literally doesn't matter if motion inputs are a complete nonfactor when it comes to the difficulty of a fighter, if people are unwilling to try this genre because they perceive motion inputs as a barrier, then removing said barrier is just a no-brainer
If someone finds motion inputs “godawful and unintuitive” they should be ignored. Total clown take. That’s the most dramatic thing I’ve ever heard with this argument.
All that shit is thrown out the window if you don’t give a reason for said consumer to buy and love the game. Regardless if inputs are hard or not if the game looks cool and plays cool they’re going to be successful. However, let’s not for a second believe that they aren’t going to water-down this entire game for mass capital gains. MK1 is a perfect example of a studio thinking easier inputs = better for players. I would argue that hard inputs and complicated systems actually get people to stay longer and invest in the games community. It’s so sad that our generation (Gen Z) needs instant gratification just to continue playing. My point is, they are making a fighting game with an already massive IP (league of legends) that’s already half the battle. If they make it look cool and feel fun and they add stipulations within the game that demonstrates to new players how to do EVERYTHING no matter how difficult, people are going to enjoy and stick around. You said it yourself, fighting games are already inherently difficult, making moves one button isn’t going to cause that much difference there is evidence to back that up
i hope it does well, people are so weird about fighting games NEEDING directional inputs for every move. whats the point of having those inputs that really only serve to make it harder for people to get into the game? theres already enough learning to do when picking up any fighting game like said in the video, why make it even harder? all they have to do is balance around simple inputs, which every other game genre already does. imagine having to do a hadouken input in call of duty to use your killstreak. its not a hard input to do, but theres no point to it besides making things unnecessarily difficult. its just stubborn players that hate the idea of change and want to feel better about being bad at the game but just good enough to know their inputs
Idk man, simple inputs don't mean jack shit when the game is just as oppressive as other fighting games since you're still gonna have to learn to deal with all of the MU knowledge - which is what people are actually afraid of. The execution factor is usually a non-factor overtime since it just becomes muscle memory and you don't actually think about what your hands are doing they just do shit when you need them to. We'll see how this plays out but BBTAG did all the same things regarding accessibility and that game is nuts lol
@@GGenieFGCyeah if you're just playing at an arcade or at a friends house for a bit it's not enough time to actually learn it for most people and they think it's too hard so they don't commit to buying them. I think one of the reasons MK does so well is because it gets on sale so cheap that people think might as well just try it out
@@GGenieFGC facts, learning Kazuya in the modern era of fighting games (started Tekken 7) made me go from "damn this EWGF input needs to be frame perfect, it has to be the hardest part of the game" to "yeah electrics are hard but the hardest part of them is using them in waevedash, backdash, sidestep and out of block on time and even then it's easier than actually learning real fundamentals and matchups" I also used to believe that only Mishimas have hard combos because they are the only ones with a just frame move but later found out they are not the only ones with just frames and a shit ton of characters without just frames have hard combos like Lili's b1 loops.
I hope this game is good, but one thing that worries me is that the impact of hits doesn’t feel like it’s there. It looks like it’ll have the same problem as the MK franchise where hits don’t have weight to them
You're right and most of the reason you don't feel the hits stems from bad sound design Most of the feeling of "weight" in things like movies and games comes from sound making weight and impact tangible
You're right and most of the reason you don't feel the hits stems from bad sound design Most of the feeling of "weight" in things like movies and games comes from sound making weight and impact tangible
